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[REQ]Motorola Android 6.0 Soak Test

Hi. Me and the other developers have been trying to get our hands on the new Android 6.0 boot.img. If anyone is running the soak test people please PM me.
Thanks
Shawn

Did they actually start the soak test, or is it still the test drive?

Does it benefit you that much to have a pre release version? If you want to make roms, why wouldn't you wait until the final version of the software is released? I know that, usually, a soak is very similar to a final release (and who knows with these "test drives"), but not always. And since the 5.0 botched release caused several problems, why wouldn't you wait?

None of us got it. Unless the few people who beta-tested it not (soak tested) it.

Its against NDA so no one will bother
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Hard to believe that no one was able to post an anonymous review of some sort..

droidrage2010 said:
Hard to believe that no one was able to post an anonymous review of some sort..
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Could be that no one has it. Remember it is a small test group that got it. Soak is not live yet (maybe). Plus people agreed to be quiet about it so even if we got an invite it wont be public. Either way we all will have fun in a few weeks

droidrage2010 said:
Hard to believe that no one was able to post an anonymous review of some sort..
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Its going to be stock android 6 + moto assist, and android 6 is a refinement of the already stable android 5.1.
Want to know what it will be like? Watch this and imagine there is a moto assist app in the app drawer
https://youtu.be/MBx-R2RsFdU

LOL. Thanks. Already familiar with MM from my N6, more curious about the specifics of MM on the MXPE test drive, such as stability, doze improvements on our hardware, completeness, etc

Shawn5162 said:
Android 6.0 boot.img.
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Please just STFU and stop producing hot air if you have not much clue. I marked in red and bold what the only thing is Shawn was asking for which is completely different to what you babble about.

schaggo said:
Please just STFU and stop producing hot air if you have not much clue. I marked in red and bold what the only thing is Shawn was asking for which is completely different to what you babble about.
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THANK YOU...At least someone understood my request

I'm beginning to think the soak test was just a tease. I filed out the forms several weeks ago and I've seen nothing.
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joshw0000 said:
I'm beginning to think the soak test was just a tease. I filed out the forms several weeks ago and I've seen nothing.
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Well it was too prepare. They want to get a mostly stable version before they push it to the super soakers to make sure the 5.0 bricking disaster doesn't happen again. From what I have read we do NOT want them to rush things. Once it is safe the soakers will get it and then everyone. As long as it is within a month I do not mind if it means smooth and mostly bug free
I welcome the caution of Motorola. Or maybe they are already soak testing but the group members are so good they are keeping it on the DL

joshuadjohnson22 said:
Well it was too prepare. They want to get a mostly stable version before they push it to the super soakers to make sure the 5.0 bricking disaster doesn't happen again. From what I have read we do NOT want them to rush things. Once it is safe the soakers will get it and then everyone. As long as it is within a month I do not mind if it means smooth and mostly bug free
I welcome the caution of Motorola. Or maybe they are already soak testing but the group members are so good they are keeping it on the DL
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5.0 bricking disaster?
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joshw0000 said:
5.0 bricking disaster?
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apparently they had a mess on their hands and they had to unlock their bootloaders and do all this stuff to fix their devices. Not sure all the details but I'm sure some users can testify to how messy it was.

joshuadjohnson22 said:
apparently they had a mess on their hands and they had to unlock their bootloaders and do all this stuff to fix their devices. Not sure all the details but I'm sure some users can testify to how messy it was.
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You're talking about a different Motorola phone? Or 5.0 in general?
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joshw0000 said:
You're talking about a different Motorola phone? Or 5.0 in general?
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Basically, I forget where I read it but they had lots of issues at first. I would rather them get those worked out. We will know within a few weeks

joshuadjohnson22 said:
Basically, I forget where I read it but they had lots of issues at first. I would rather them get those worked out. We will know within a few weeks
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I can restore if I soft brick. I'd rather play around with it. No different than flashing a beta rom.
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joshw0000 said:
You're talking about a different Motorola phone? Or 5.0 in general?
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Basically, I forget where I read it but they had lots of issues at first. I would rather them get those worked out. We will know within a few weeks
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I can confirm the 5.0 disaster ... It was Lollipop massacre ... It happened on the Moto G (First Gen), one of the first moto device to receive the lollipop update through Soak test ... the image was leaked and people started flashing them, there were some minor bugs in the image, and whenever people tried to get to stable kitkat, or stock Rom in order to get official update their phone got permanently bricked ...
There are major changes in the Bootloader during the major android updates, so it's best to take precautions and wait patiently till someone confirms a proper procedure .

I can confirm the soak test isn't fake.
Didn't want to share this whatever.
Added HD Calling
Added Wifi Calling
Added Band 12 support
Visual voicemail not built into the dialer app

Will Google update Nexus 5 to Android N?

So, it seems that there is no Developer Preview for us from Google.
These are some very sad news for those who prefer the stability of Stock Android (directly from Google), rather than the battery life and performance improvements, as well as many many features that Custom ROMs provide.
Personally I believe that this is pretty much a confirmation from Google that they move away from Nexus 5, but I really want to hear your opinions.
So let's vote and discuss!

If Google don't do that..there are the developers

The Nexus 5 will be three years old this year. It will reach end of support soon unless it already has. We might still see security updates for a while though, and we will most likely see some developers porting Android N to the Nexus 5.

Didn't this happen with the Nexus 4 last year? They didn't get the preview builds but they did get the final Marshmallow build? Hopefully it's the same for us and we get one last big update.

It did happen with the Nexus 4, but the year before last year with Lollipop. It didn't get updated to MM though.

jsgraphicart said:
Didn't this happen with the Nexus 4 last year? They didn't get the preview builds but they did get the final Marshmallow build? Hopefully it's the same for us and we get one last big update.
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No, that happened with Lollipop. Didn't get L preview, got Lollipop.

the.fall said:
It did happen with the Nexus 4, but the year before last year with Lollipop. It didn't get updated to MM though.
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JustApollo said:
No, that happened with Lollipop. Didn't get L preview, got Lollipop.
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Ah. I thought it was something like that. Well hopefully that's the case with this.

JustApollo said:
No, that happened with Lollipop. Didn't get L preview, got Lollipop.
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Also nexus 7 2013, no m previews, got marshmallow
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When is the official end of the line for Nexus 5? I think Google said 24 months after the device release or 12 months after the device stops being sold through the Google Store or something...?

I hope N5 will die on N, at least.
Best device ever made.

kicksilver said:
I hope N5 will die on N, at least.
Best device ever made.
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I really hope so. From my point of view Android N is what Android M should have been on the first place.
It finally gives us official Multi-window support, something that was experimental on M, stock file manager improves in a way that we no longer need an app for that, Doze works whenever the screen is off for a while... and many more!

kicksilver said:
I hope N5 will die on N, at least.
Best device ever made.
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Nah. Thanx to XDA it wont :victory:

Alex Kane said:
Nah. Thanx to XDA it wont :victory:
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I meant officially
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kicksilver said:
I meant officially
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Even officially, we will keep getting security updates, so we're not completely abandoned...

No news about officiel marchmallow?

Is there any news about officiel marshmallow in mate 7

I think that Huawei forgot of our phone ?
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I think that yhis b511 and b513 are not a beta but a officiel one

Prof1977 said:
I think that yhis b511 and b513 are not a beta but a officiel one
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If that is the case how come no one have asked Huawei to confirm this?
Ofc we can expect this to never be Ota but from what market has this been released?
Ask the support in that country in that case.

I just hope that this update improve the performance. If not I'll have to change the phone. When the phone gets laggy I'd throw it by the window
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raybanBcn said:
I just hope that this update improve the performance. If not I'll have to change the phone. When the phone gets laggy I'd throw it by the window
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Same here it affects my physical and mental health. Every time it becomes laggy my stress and anxiety level goes up.
It has reported about extreme performance improvement over lollipop

All the last weeks since the leak of the beta MM releases, I read so much about trouble, problems, rollback and even more trouble...
Luckily I stayed on LP! So I guess it will still need some time - if they eveb haven't dropped it...
As almost at every company - only the model releases are important and care. Mate 7 is already long time past having dust on it! It's no more important for them on the market-battle...

i contacted huawei arabia official customer support.
and they said, it should be released soon, they are working on it.
so have patience

mutahharbashir said:
i contacted huawei arabia official customer support.
and they said, it should be released soon, they are working on it.
so have patience
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I do not think they are working on it...
I think when they decide to start working and finish the last 5% of the work
it will go kind of fast, the problem is the project has been put a side because other models are more prioritized obviously.
It is a stupid strategy to leave something 95% done and not finish it, it is a waste of resources it does also upset their customers.
They need to realize... about 8 million people are affect and will suffer mentally and physically because of the lack of software dedication.
anywa

blackinfinity said:
I do not think they are working on it...
I think when they decide to start working and finish the last 5% of the work
it will go kind of fast, the problem is the project has been put a side because other models are more prioritized obviously.
It is a stupid strategy to leave something 95% done and not finish it, it is a waste of resources it does also upset their customers.
They need to realize... about 8 million people are affect and will suffer mentally and physically because of the lack of software dedication.
anywa
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i feel equally frustrated as you are,
but don't forget they are giving excellent phones at half price compare to other manufacturers :good:
remember lollipop upgrade it was released almost after a year, this time they started beta test earlier because i believe this will be the last update for this phone and they don't want any bug.
in past i never bought a huawei phone just because lack of updates, this time they looked much promising, as they have released MM for some phones, so don't lose hope.
as they have provided official MM downgrade packages, i doubt final version will be delayed.

It will be like last time. When Android N is released they will release Marshmallow .. So that we can be one version behind always.

Have received via OTA B553 one for my MT7-TL10, thus running smooth without problems so far.

Official??
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Linense said:
Official??
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Yes, since received via OTA only.

Ok. Thanks.
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ecep said:
Have received via OTA B553 one for my MT7-TL10, thus running smooth without problems so far.
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really? What is your country/ area?

ecep said:
Have received via OTA B553 one for my MT7-TL10, thus running smooth without problems so far.
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Isn't B553 for Chinese devices?

ecep said:
Yes, since received via OTA only.
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ecep, you signed up for the Beta, right?

Have never participated in beta, and the device suppose to be used in china mainland (check my signature), however is is been used in Hellas under voda 4G FDD LTE without any issues at all.

How to know if it's beta or not?

Why there so many updates for CyanogenMod rom and no or hardly any update 4 stock

hi guy wanna knw why there are so many updates on daily basis for cm 13 n hardly or no update for stock

rohanmane3 said:
hi guy wanna knw why there are so many updates on daily basis for cm 13 n hardly or no update for stock
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CM is built nightly by auto build scripts, whether there are changes or not... Most day to changes are in the CM core and have little real effect. I recommend only updating monthly unless you are having issues.
Moto doesn't push updates except when needed, the stock rom is stable and in general doesn't need frequent updates. Moto has also made no commitment to regular security updates.
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I'ts a shame isn't it, security patch level is 1 januari 2016

mumfordfan said:
I'ts a shame isn't it, security patch level is 1 januari 2016
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Well, Motorola isn't Google! They didn't guarantee monthly security patches at all. At least they are offering major android upgrades, many manufacturers ignore their phones completely [emoji4]
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mumfordfan said:
I'ts a shame isn't it, security patch level is 1 januari 2016
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And yet, I have yet to hear of a single security issues with this device...
TBH, most of these security updates are not really about technical need at all, they are about propaganda... It makes Google, and Android in general, look better, to patch any "vulnerability" in Android. All of these huge security holes like Stagefrieght, Media Server, Quadrooter, etc. are not REALLY an issue in the real world. Have you ever heard of anyone actually having a problem with any of these? No, you haven't, because there isn't a single documented case of any of these "in the wild", it's all happened in a lab.
Remember that even though we are on January 2016 update, Moto is still a leader in this area... How many other sub-$200 handsets even get updates, much less better ones than we do? Not many...

acejavelin said:
And yet, I have yet to hear of a single security issues with this device...
TBH, most of these security updates are not really about technical need at all, they are about propaganda... It makes Google, and Android in general, look better, to patch any "vulnerability" in Android. All of these huge security holes like Stagefrieght, Media Server, Quadrooter, etc. are not REALLY an issue in the real world. Have you ever heard of anyone actually having a problem with any of these? No, you haven't, because there isn't a single documented case of any of these "in the wild", it's all happened in a lab.
Remember that even though we are on January 2016 update, Moto is still a leader in this area... How many other sub-$200 handsets even get updates, much less better ones than we do? Not many...
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If it can be done in a lab, it can be done in real life. It's important for Google to fix any security issues, and it's not just propaganda. You don't want your software that's going on billions of phones to have security issues.
But for the average person, you really don't need to worry about it, unless you're really high profile or very rich and are at risk of being targeted.

All true, Google does fix security issues the problem is most phone company's doesn't provide them to the costumers.
Fingers crossed for Nougat on the Moto G3

Someone will port it. No fear
3GotoM ym morf tneS

mumfordfan said:
All true, Google does fix security issues the problem is most phone company's doesn't provide them to the costumers.
Fingers crossed for Nougat on the Moto G3
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We will probably get it, but G 2015 will likely be in line behind the Moto Z, G4, X Style/Pure, and X Play... Haven't heard a peep from beta testers for any device, so likely at least 3 months out still. Will probably see CM14 and other custom ROMs well before official update.
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acejavelin said:
And yet, I have yet to hear of a single security issues with this device...
TBH, most of these security updates are not really about technical need at all, they are about propaganda... It makes Google, and Android in general, look better, to patch any "vulnerability" in Android. All of these huge security holes like Stagefrieght, Media Server, Quadrooter, etc. are not REALLY an issue in the real world. Have you ever heard of anyone actually having a problem with any of these? No, you haven't, because there isn't a single documented case of any of these "in the wild", it's all happened in a lab.
Remember that even though we are on January 2016 update, Moto is still a leader in this area... How many other sub-$200 handsets even get updates, much less better ones than we do? Not many...
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I am curious why some versions of MotoG3 got the upgrade to 6.01 and others did not?
Is it a good assumption those who did not get 6.01 will not get any further updates unless it is 7.0?

MrTooPhone said:
I am curious why some versions of MotoG3 got the upgrade to 6.01 and others did not?
Is it a good assumption those who did not get 6.01 will not get any further updates unless it is 7.0?
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Safe assumption... But I've seen stranger things. 6.0.1 started rolling out months ago, then just stopped with no official word as to why. Speculation is the scroll issue, where scrolls are seen as taps, got significantly worse and the roll out was stopped. Really though 6.0.0 to 6.0.1 was a very minor change.
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acejavelin said:
Safe assumption... But I've seen stranger things. 6.0.1 started rolling out months ago, then just stopped with no official word as to why. Speculation is the scroll issue, where scrolls are seen as taps, got significantly worse and the roll out was stopped. Really though 6.0.0 to 6.0.1 was a very minor change.
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That scroll issue was terrible, which is the main thing that got me to void my warranty and flash cm13.

Moto isn't the best anymore...
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Remember that even though we are on January 2016 update, Moto is still a leader in this area... How many other sub-$200 handsets even get updates, much less better ones than we do? Not many...
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Samsung is on the July 2016 update with the sub-$200 X Cover 3.
I am not a Samsung fanboy at all.
I really don't like all the fluff they add to Android and why they see the need to overhaul the settings.
But having Samsung best Motorola at keeping their sub-$200 handsets up-to-date makes me doubt that my next phone will be a Moto.
Which is a shame, I think...
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Hans

hbogaards said:
Samsung is on the July 2016 update with the sub-$200 X Cover 3.
I am not a Samsung fanboy at all.
I really don't like all the fluff they add to Android and why they see the need to overhaul the settings.
But having Samsung best Motorola at keeping their sub-$200 handsets up-to-date makes me doubt that my next phone will be a Moto.
Which is a shame, I think...
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Ehh... I can see that. I would still never own another Sammy, but I would take another Moto. Besides, I usually only run mine stock for about 3 months then ROM them once a few become stable.
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acejavelin said:
Ehh... I can see that. I would still never own another Sammy, but I would take another Moto.
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Me too. I can even tolerate an iPhone to a Samsung. Its good for sammy if they give updates, I agree on that.
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Android 7.0 Nougat being pushed to AOSP / Nexus

http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2016/08/taking-final-wrapper-off-of-nougat.html
Only a matter of time now!

Yeah, my hope was that since moto was dragging feet on the 6.0.1 and the monthly security updates that we would see Nougat earlier than most, but I then wondered why did they release a May security update at all. So that thought sent my hypothesis that they were working on a Nougat release right out the window.
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moto pure ?

Well, they can begin working on it now. Needed AOSP source.

ahent said:
Yeah, my hope was that since moto was dragging feet on the 6.0.1 and the monthly security updates that we would see Nougat earlier than most, but I then wondered why did they release a May security update at all. So that thought sent my hypothesis that they were working on a Nougat release right out the window.
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They can't with on nougat until Google releases the source code. Motorola/Lenovo has also confirmed security updates will be quarterly vice monthly. They probably have a limited number of software engineers and developers and 6.0.1 honestly didn't really show that it could bring much in additional features to this phone. With nougat, there are reasons to move forward with the release.

Maybe this will fix the audio stutter with LTE calls on T-Mobile.

I know this might seem stupid but cant we port the nexus 5x factory android 7 rom?

I wouldn't bank on getting Nougat. Let's not forget how quickly Lenovorola dropped the 2014 Moto X in terms of Marshmallow. I know the unlocked variants eventually got it, but it took awhile.
I've this bad feeling in my gut our phone's support is going to be cut off. It's just like during the days of waiting for the Atrix to get 4.0 only for it to get canned.
Hope for the best, but expect the worst.

http://dailysunknoxville.com/moto-x-pure-edition-wont-get-android-7-0-nougat/920010638
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Just a fluff piece and purely conjecture... No reference to anything concrete like 95% of all articles out there. Fact is, only 16 handsets are absolutely confirmed to get Nougat, everything else is unofficial. And the only Moto on the list is the Nexus 6.
http://android.stackexchange.com/q/139232/146132
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I'd like to point out that the Moto X Pure is on the official Nougat website https://www.android.com/phones/

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http://dailysunknoxville.com/moto-x-pure-edition-wont-get-android-7-0-nougat/920010638
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In the comments section of that article user Tim stated "And your source is…? Also why is the Moto X Pure listed on the bottom of Google’s nougat website. The Moto X style (which is what the pure is called outside the US) is confirmed to have 7.0."

elite001mm said:
I'd like to point out that the Moto X Pure is on the official Nougat website https://www.android.com/phones/
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You must have a different version of the website to me as I can't see it. I see 5 phones listed, none of them are Motorola.

lmulli said:
You must have a different version of the website to me as I can't see it. I see 5 phones listed, none of them are Motorola.
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That's weird. I tried both desktop and mobile and it's there for me both times. Perhaps its a region thing? I'm in Tennessee, US

elite001mm said:
I'd like to point out that the Moto X Pure is on the official Nougat website https://www.android.com/phones/
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General Android site. Not specifically Nougat.
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This thing isn't even a year old. We HAVE to get it. I would hate to have to rely on CM14 to stay current.

elite001mm said:
I'd like to point out that the Moto X Pure is on the official Nougat website https://www.android.com/phones/
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General Android site. Not specifically Nougat.
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This is what I see. Nougat is mentioned, it could mean absolutely nothing, but either way it is an interesting find in my opinion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvv9nwUTv20

kcipopnevets said:
This thing isn't even a year old. We HAVE to get it. I would hate to have to rely on CM14 to stay current.
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I wouldn't say we have to get it, but not offering major update support for a flagship type device up to 18 months after release would be a bad move by Lenovo. It would definitely push me away. I can deal with fewer less frequent security updates as well as bypassing minor ones (6.0.1), but a major one that this device can easily handle is expected.

Getting flashbacks to the Atrix 4G's journey to 4.0. What a time to be alive.
This being a new Motorola in ideology, so-to-speak, I'm optimistic, but it doesn't bode super well that they've already directed resources away from security updates. But who knows, maybe they did that to work on bringing 7 up.
Too bad they don't just tell us what's happening.

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Too bad they don't just tell us what's happening.
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That is something I have always wished for in an OEM. I guess they keep silent not to get hopes up, only to crush them later if something doesn't work out, but some sort of information would be nice. At least tell us it's being worked on, or what is being worked on.