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Snapdragon Battery Guru

Hi All,
This is an app that i just found that apparently is extremely useful for the I9505 variant containing the Snapdragon processor.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xiam.snapdragon.app#_blank
"Snapdragon™ BatteryGuru is a battery life saver app that extends battery performance and improves overall user experience by intelligently making changes that optimize device functionality in phones with Snapdragon mobile processors."
I have just installed it to see how it goes over the next few days.
Just thought i should share it with everyone.
Cheers

It will be very interesting to see how this turns out
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still need 1 days and 8 hour for me. will see how it goes.

23 hours left hear lol
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mine says 4 days of learning left....
will be interesting to see what it learns and how well it effectively puts that learning into practice to help battery life.

didn't really make much any difference for me so deleted it... not to say it won't work for you though
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Verdict still out for me as well. 1 day left of learning.

beaver2233 said:
didn't really make much any difference for me so deleted it... not to say it won't work for you though
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+1
I know this app from the Nexus 4, no differences....

beaver2233 said:
didn't really make much any difference for me so deleted it... not to say it won't work for you though
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did you let the learning time pass? and still not notice much?

AMDPOWERFIST said:
did you let the learning time pass? and still not notice much?
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Yeah of course (the app has been out for quite a while so it's not new). But as I said may be different for different users (those who sync a lot etc).
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I used this app for Nexus 4 when it was launched, after it learnt it mostly disabled my Gmail/Whatsapp/Tango and whenever I used to open those APPs then only I could get notifications. This is even when, I have disabled that do not enable this feature on this & this app. Strangely I had to uninstall the app so that I can receive notifications

coolraghav said:
I used this app for Nexus 4 when it was launched, after it learnt it mostly disabled my Gmail/Whatsapp/Tango and whenever I used to open those APPs then only I could get notifications. This is even when, I have disabled that do not enable this feature on this & this app. Strangely I had to uninstall the app so that I can receive notifications
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Its mostly useless because of this.
I used it on my previous phone as well, Motorola RAZR HD. There were options to enable data for those apps (I don't use Tango though), and I did.
In the end all it was essentially doing is managing my WiFi, and it made poor choices about that, disconnecting me when I was at home and using WiFi. It made sense to the app; WiFi took more power, but it wasn't the way I wanted to use it.
In the end, it didn't do anything but screw up my experience. I could achieve what it had "learned" and tailored it to my needs using Tasker but doing that doesn't even make a significant difference when I'd set it up for a better power saving experience so those profiles inevitably got deleted.
I should add that the RAZR HD is built to be sort of similar to vanilla Android, and that I trust Samsung a lot more when it comes to trying to optimise power consumption in its ROM without any add ons running, and that's quite a statement considering that the RAZR HD has incredible battery life.
I've had this app staring at me in Titanium Backup, uninstalled, since I got the phone and the urge to try it out comes and goes, but overall I can't really conceive that its a good idea to do so. There's no magical things that it does which can't be accomplished using other tools and most of those tools aren't really worth it despite doing a better job for the reason of the user having more control over what conditions need to be met for the functions to take place. The days of Android needing help with power management through third party apps are for the most part in the past and only exist on pretty old phones.

Battery Guru is in use more then anything else during Learning process when I check in Greenify. Based on what I see hopefully it is used less after Learning.
Also is it worth using this with Greenify?
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Leonidas87 said:
Battery Guru is in use more then anything else during Learning process when I check in Greenify. Based on what I see hopefully it is used less after Learning.
Also is it worth using this with Greenify?
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hahahahaha
what a stupid program if that is the case (saw your image below this post)

Latest after finishing the Learning period. Seems to still show up in greenify to be waking up the phone more then anything else I've ever seen before.
To me it looks like a resource and battery hog.
Anyone else have an opinion based on the picture I'm attaching or there experience with it?
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Leonidas87 said:
Latest after finishing the Learning period. Seems to still show up in greenify to be waking up the phone more then anything else I've ever seen before.
To me it looks like a resource and battery hog.
Anyone else have an opinion based on the picture I'm attaching or there experience with it?
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Yep. And I guess if the functions of this app were so great how it tells you in the description, it would be in the source code of the qualcomm's kernel itself. Maybe it can save some battery but only for those millions of unexperienced users arround the world, who doesn't even know, what android really is.
I would stick with greenify and that's enough. Everything else is the job for the kernel.

Impact7 said:
Yep. And I guess if the functions of this app were so great how it tells you in the description, it would be in the source code of the qualcomm's kernel itself. Maybe it can save some battery but only for those millions of unexperienced users arround the world, who doesn't even know, what android really is.
I would stick with greenify and that's enough. Everything else is the job for the kernel.
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Overall it just does more harm then good. My Live Wallpaper seemed slugish. Scrolling became sluggish on homescreen and drawer. Over 1000 Wake ups and counting with it. NO THANK YOU.
USE GREENIFY (BETA VERSION PREFFERED BY ME) BOTTOM LINE
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Does this app really help?
I let it run the whole learning period and just ended a few hours ago...
So it started saving battery... The phone was idle the whole time.
You see a huge decline in battery? Thats when the App BatteryGuru started to "save battery", how ironic.
"Google Services" seems to be the cause in here..
When checking Wake Lock Detector,
BatteryGuru is the most wake lock...
Question is, Shall I continue using it?

i started using this app with the adam kernel and ive noticed that my battery life has increased from 12 hours of use to 18/19 hours of use
im a pretty avid phone user. mainly music, web browsing, phone calling, text, games, and seldomly maps (in order of importance to my personal life
with the stock kernel i saw no difference

Killing apps is it worth it??

I have a bad habit of frequently clearing all apps from my recents
I somewhere read that it's not good (can't remember where)
So is it worth killing apps frequently ?? Does this effect battery life too??
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Hi,
I would say you "kill" multitasking...

...which is actually not good, because opening an app that is already in the phones RAM loads much faster plus it doesn't consume that much battery juice

Just leave em. Don't be obsessed with closing stuff all the time
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Apps running in your multi tasking window still drain some battery. Even Google suggests closing them if you're not using them, to extend battery life.
Launching apps doesn't doesn't spike my current widget readings so I don't think much battery is used there. I've noticed rebooting the phone does cause huge spikes though so try and only do that while plugged in.
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sohail77 said:
I have a bad habit of frequently clearing all apps from my recents
I somewhere read that it's not good (can't remember where)
So is it worth killing apps frequently ?? Does this effect battery life too??
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This topic has been debated again and again. It makes no tangible difference in battery life. If you want to swipe your apps, go ahead and swipe them. You will never see a difference in battery. And that's because there isn't one.

I notice that if I don't reboot my N5 for a long time, my available RAM goes down to <150mb regardless of what I close. Does it sound like I have a bad app?
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no point. the device is more than capable of handling multiple apps open in the background.

inconceeeivable said:
I notice that if I don't reboot my N5 for a long time, my available RAM goes down to <150mb regardless of what I close. Does it sound like I have a bad app?
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Or a bad kernel
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inconceeeivable said:
I notice that if I don't reboot my N5 for a long time, my available RAM goes down to <150mb regardless of what I close. Does it sound like I have a bad app?
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Doesn't happen with me
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Usually its best to just keep pressing the back button repeatedly to exit an app and let it be in the recents. I read that just swiping the app off the Recent doesn't completely exit the app and there's still some background process that will be running for some time.
Read this article http://www.howtogeek.com/169549/wha...ipe-an-android-app-from-the-recent-apps-list/
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greenify em

Ben36 said:
Or a bad kernel
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Running pure stock. Haven't flashed a thing.
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What works best for me is leaving all the apps that I'll be using more than 2/3 times during the day and closing all others.

Is my Nexus 5 defective?!?

Hi just got my nexus 5 and been trying to run benchmarks on it... In antutu they say the CPU is poor and in 3d mark physics test is very low... I know about the thermal throttle but really how severe is it?!? Also how to enable quickboot in cm11?!? Also some custom kernel supports quickboot???
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Sukrith said:
Hi just got my nexus 5 and been trying to run benchmarks on it... In antutu they say the CPU is poor and in 3d mark physics test is very low... I know about the thermal throttle but really how severe is it?!? Also how to enable quickboot in cm11?!? Also some custom kernel supports quickboot???
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You're labeling your phone defective because of a benchmark score?
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If I'm analyzing the information you provided correctly, I'd say it's definitely defective. I recommend selling it on swappa and purchasing an iPhone.!.!???.!.!.!
No it is not defective.

If you go to the development sections and read the opening posts on the kernel threads....they usually list the features.
Research and reading are the XDA way!
Clearly read instructions before flashing anything of course.
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And no, i don't know which, if any have such a feature. My N5 boots in about 20 seconds....that's quick enough for me.

I don't think your N5 is defective at all.

It is not the phone that is defective

Guys also my phone generated the 2nd bug report without me doing anything... Once before too it did it by itself... Also when I used my phone while it was charging... The screen went haywire but after a reboot it worked fine... I'm on stock rooted and xposed... Since Google now works on any screen now and also when screen is off and charging... Is it possible to make an app that will make gnow think the phone is charging even when its not and then we'll get touch less control too...
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Sukrith said:
Guys also my phone generated the 2nd bug report without me doing anything... Once before too it did it by itself... Also when I used my phone while it was charging... The screen went haywire but after a reboot it worked fine... I'm on stock rooted and xposed... Since Google now works on any screen now and also when screen is off and charging... Is it possible to make an app that will make gnow think the phone is charging even when its not and then we'll get touch less control too...
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If you did figure it out...your battery life would be destroyed.

KJ said:
If you did figure it out...your battery life would be destroyed.
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Actually no... Our s800 processor has low power DSP or something just like moto x... So I dont think there will be a huge difference!!!
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Sukrith said:
Actually no... Our s800 processor has low power DSP or something just like moto x... So I dont think there will be a huge difference!!!
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Yes, but no one has been able to access it....like for double tap to wake that a lot of kernels have now. So dt2w and "always listening" are running off normal cores and keeping the phone awake....and costing pretty big battery loss.
The N5 has a pedometer on that core, where the X has active display and I believe always listening. No one has gained access to the low voltage core on either device. Its probably not doable without major code changes.

KJ said:
Yes, but no one has been able to access it....like for double tap to wake that a lot of kernels have now. So dt2w and "always listening" are running off normal cores and keeping the phone awake....and costing pretty big battery loss.
The N5 has a pedometer on that core, where the X has active display and I believe always listening. No one has gained access to the low voltage core on either device. Its probably not doable without major code changes.
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They have been able to access it -but Qualcomm prevented it from being shared

KJ said:
Yes, but no one has been able to access it....like for double tap to wake that a lot of kernels have now. So dt2w and "always listening" are running off normal cores and keeping the phone awake....and costing pretty big battery loss.
The N5 has a pedometer on that core, where the X has active display and I believe always listening. No one has gained access to the low voltage core on either device. Its probably not doable without major code changes.
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True... But a person from aokp has successfully activated the core... He hasn't made it public but he has done a video for YouTube...
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Sukrith said:
True... But a person from aokp has successfully activated the core... He hasn't made it public but he has done a video for YouTube...
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I am a believe when I can do it too guy.
He'll be a hero if he can do it for everyone to benefit. Especially in the N5's case.

Can anyone suggest some good mods for me... I'd prefer non flashable since I always boot the twrp image and then do whatever is necessary and then relock the boot loader after resetting the flash counter... So I run stock recovery as I just wanna be sure that my phone in case of a service center visit I get to keep my warranty... Also is there some kind of flash tool??? As in complete wipe and reflash ... As in even when boot loader is deleted???
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Wtf is wrong with my phone?

I have to restart it everyday or the lag becomes unbearable. I took some screen shots of when it starts lagging bad and I barely have any ram not being used. I'm stock, uprooted. I've disabled all bloated ware.
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Chadly said:
I have to restart it everyday or the lag becomes unbearable. I took some screen shots of when it starts lagging bad and I barely have any ram not being used. I'm stock, uprooted. I've disabled all bloated ware.
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That Cleanmaster is a performance killer. App killers like these are counter productive to how the OS manages background processes. Android can handle RAM in an efficient manner with its garbage collector, especially with fast RAM of today. When app killers shut down backgrounded apps, it takes longer to restart them, and causing unnecessary resource handles.
Apps like 360 Security do clean out junk files. However, it should be run periodically and not 24x7. Once junk files have been removed, these apps tend to hog battery and resources for no purpose.

quangtran1 said:
That Cleanmaster is a performance killer. App killers like these are counter productive to how the OS manages background processes. Android can handle RAM in an efficient manner with its garbage collector, especially fast RAM of today. When app killers shut down backgrounded apps, it takes longer to restart them, and causing unnecessary resource handles.
Apps like 360 Security do clean out junk files. However, it should be run periodically and not 24x7. Once junk files have been removed, these apps tend to hog battery and resources for no purpose.
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What he said plus I would remove 360 Security. The big difference with Android (or really any mobile OS for that matter) compared to a desktop OS is that you have to explicitly allow/choose to install malware on to your device. Due to the secure nature of Linux/Android, its pretty hard to infect the bootloader or subvert the Kernel. Its way easier to create a game thats becomes popular and sends premium sms or sends your personal data. It lists these as permissions when you install the app but most people ignore them and install away.
TL;DR, look at permissions before you download.
http://www.extremetech.com/computin...rus-apps-are-useless-heres-what-to-do-instead
and
http://qz.com/131436/contrary-to-what-youve-heard-android-is-almost-impenetrable-to-malware/

I deleted clean master and 360 Security and it seems the phone is running way faster but I won't know for sure for another day or so. I think that 360 crap was making my phone lag bad.
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Chadly said:
I deleted clean master and 360 Security and it seems the phone is running way faster but I won't know for sure for another day or so. I think that 360 crap was making my phone lag bad.
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Yeah there's really no need for those types of apps especially with the raw horsepower this phone has
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Samsungs poor app optimization!

After about a year of changing settings, factory resetting this device, clearing cache.... I started to do my own research and doing my own tinkering with the device. I found that samsungs app optimization disables features in apps in order to consume battery consumption, but the truth is, it actually does the exact thing that makes your phone slow down or be sluggish when opening and closing/ restarting apps. I've been an android fan boy for quite some time and we all learn to realise that these are high powered devices that are being somewhat crippled by the makers "Samsung" being the worst.... but to make a long story short disable all app optimization and you'll see how wonderful this device is in its natural state...
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Did you go through and unclick everything or is there a faster way?

Where is this located? I forgot...
From note 5.. rip note 7

ashah87 said:
Did you go through and unclick everything or is there a faster way?
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Well you actually have to manually click off one by one
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MatroxD said:
Where is this located? I forgot...
From note 5.. rip note 7
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Go to your settings, click on battery, at the top right theres a more button click on it. It will say app optimization etc... once in it will show only ones that's disabled just click on the tab to show all
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ashah87 said:
Did you go through and unclick everything or is there a faster way?
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For now the only way to do it is one by one
wynnemelvin said:
Go to your settings, click on battery, at the top right theres a more button click on it. It will say app optimization etc... once in it will show only ones that's disabled just click on the tab to show all
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I did outdoor, and it is a bit more snappy indeed.. Not a massive amount, but more.. I am just waiting too see how it impacts my battery life. But great catch!
From note 5.. rip note 7

My phone took too much of a hit in the battery department so I reverted back.

ashah87 said:
My phone took too much of a hit in the battery department so I reverted back.
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I have recently downloaded Package Disabler Pro and have disabled a lot of stuff I dont use. Day 1 seems to be noticeably less battery drain. Good start. Thread below has some details on stuff safe to disable. I have also turned app optimization off on some of my most used apps to see if there is any effect.
Guide: De-Bloating and De-Touchwizzing the Note 5 > Post #3

JerseyFF said:
I have recently downloaded Package Disabler Pro and have disabled a lot of stuff I dont use. Day 1 seems to be noticeably less battery drain. Good start. Thread below has some details on stuff safe to disable. I have also turned app optimization off on some of my most used apps to see if there is any effect.
Guide: De-Bloating and De-Touchwizzing the Note 5 > Post #3
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Lol you guys got it made i have a bad usb port so no downgrading for me.
I also use the same app and its wondeful no root. I have basicly debloated as if i had root and. After owning lg g4 same battery 3000 mah. A s6 and active the battery life on note 5 is wonderful compared to all of those. The g4 has 6 cores and i couldnt barely get 3 hours screen on. Im getting nearly 6 to 7 sot