Killing apps is it worth it?? - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a bad habit of frequently clearing all apps from my recents
I somewhere read that it's not good (can't remember where)
So is it worth killing apps frequently ?? Does this effect battery life too??
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Hi,
I would say you "kill" multitasking...

...which is actually not good, because opening an app that is already in the phones RAM loads much faster plus it doesn't consume that much battery juice

Just leave em. Don't be obsessed with closing stuff all the time
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Apps running in your multi tasking window still drain some battery. Even Google suggests closing them if you're not using them, to extend battery life.
Launching apps doesn't doesn't spike my current widget readings so I don't think much battery is used there. I've noticed rebooting the phone does cause huge spikes though so try and only do that while plugged in.
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sohail77 said:
I have a bad habit of frequently clearing all apps from my recents
I somewhere read that it's not good (can't remember where)
So is it worth killing apps frequently ?? Does this effect battery life too??
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This topic has been debated again and again. It makes no tangible difference in battery life. If you want to swipe your apps, go ahead and swipe them. You will never see a difference in battery. And that's because there isn't one.

I notice that if I don't reboot my N5 for a long time, my available RAM goes down to <150mb regardless of what I close. Does it sound like I have a bad app?
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no point. the device is more than capable of handling multiple apps open in the background.

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I notice that if I don't reboot my N5 for a long time, my available RAM goes down to <150mb regardless of what I close. Does it sound like I have a bad app?
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Or a bad kernel
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inconceeeivable said:
I notice that if I don't reboot my N5 for a long time, my available RAM goes down to <150mb regardless of what I close. Does it sound like I have a bad app?
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Doesn't happen with me
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Usually its best to just keep pressing the back button repeatedly to exit an app and let it be in the recents. I read that just swiping the app off the Recent doesn't completely exit the app and there's still some background process that will be running for some time.
Read this article http://www.howtogeek.com/169549/wha...ipe-an-android-app-from-the-recent-apps-list/
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greenify em

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Or a bad kernel
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Running pure stock. Haven't flashed a thing.
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What works best for me is leaving all the apps that I'll be using more than 2/3 times during the day and closing all others.

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Should I swap to ART?

So I've been reading through, some say it's fast, some say it's buggy, some apps won't work etc...
For those who have changed over... What are your opinions? Should I?
Thanks
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No
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So I've been reading through, some say it's fast, some say it's buggy, some apps won't work etc...
For those who have changed over... What are your opinions? Should I?
Thanks
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ART is still work in progress atm by Google and a lot of apps are not yet optimized for ART. So for testing and trying its good but as in daily usage i would stick with Dalvik for now.
rogem_kk said:
No
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Lol... Like to expand with a reason?
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Not ready for prime time. See above.
Thanks guys! I'll leave it alone then! Lol
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I have had no problems with ART runtime. One game I like wasn't compatible. I would suggest try it out.
stone_phalanges said:
I have had no problems with ART runtime. One game I like wasn't compatible. I would suggest try it out.
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Is it noticeably faster? Smoother? Better battery etc to be worth even trying?
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I have found ART to be noticeably faster in app scrolling and overall load times. Poorly coded apps that have known to lag since the beginning of time now are smooth as butter. When I switched back from ART to dalvik I became somewhat disappointed because I got used to the phenomenal speed of the N5 on ART. The device still fly's on dalvik but is faster on ART, no question. Stability has been fantastic as well.
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I switched to ART a few days ago and its been blazing fast and no problems. I've had 1 game that doesn't work but its not a big deal. Its stable and I'm gonna use it everyday
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There is a thread that is starting to list apps that don't like art. I'm a hardcore tib user and art breaks tib, so I stay away. Performance is better, here and there, but I find using the right kernel and rom will match art smoothness.
My combo right now is psx and Franco. Very nice.
I switched to ART and the back key wouldn't work and nor would SwiftKey keyboard, so that's me back on dvalik lol
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stone_phalanges said:
I have had no problems with ART runtime. One game I like wasn't compatible. I would suggest try it out.
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So you did have a problem. Don't say you had no problems when you did. It is like saying all is perfect BUT....
The pros outweigh the cons.
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I've been on ART for a little over a week without any issue. Like other have said, the scrolling is a huge improvement. App load times are faster too.
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Likewise. Running for a week now,had to find an ART optimised version of whatsapp,aside from that I've had no problems. Phone is quicker,especially scrolling, and especially xda premium app! Having said that, I run my phone with very few apps on it,so I'm less likely to meet bugs than average I guess.
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scissors_cut_paper said:
Likewise. Running for a week now,had to find an ART optimised version of whatsapp,aside from that I've had no problems. Phone is quicker,especially scrolling, and especially xda premium app! Having said that, I run my phone with very few apps on it,so I'm less likely to meet bugs than average I guess.
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Does SwiftKey keyboard work for you? Also do you have a link for the WhatsApp?
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Ben36 said:
Does SwiftKey keyboard work for you? Also do you have a link for the WhatsApp?
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What specifically did you have issues with on SwiftKey?
I'm on ART and the only problem I've run into is the same as on Dalvik, which is pressing space does not automatically insert the highlighted word without first typing a letter.
wizard7926 said:
What specifically did you have issues with on SwiftKey?
I'm on ART and the only problem I've run into is the same as on Dalvik, which is pressing space does not automatically insert the highlighted word without first typing a letter.
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The app vanished from being installed and then wouldn't install afterwards.
Also my back key wouldn't work
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My swiftkey does not work as well. It simply does not open a keyboard at all, no FC, no popup... nothing.

Weird android system thing wasting battery?

So I never did anything and all the sudden this is wasting over half of my battery.. Any ideas how to stop it?
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rmhumtex97 said:
So I never did anything and all the sudden this is wasting over half of my battery.. Any ideas how to stop it?
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This seems to be the the Camera, did you recently install any Camera/Video/Scanner/QRreader/Torch/ect. applications?
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This seems to be the the Camera, did you recently install any Camera/Video/Scanner/QRreader/Torch/ect. applications?
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Nope. I just use stock camera and everything
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rmhumtex97 said:
Nope. I just use stock camera and everything
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Well, if you actually used it, it's quite normal that it has a high amount of energy consumption. The Camera Hardware is engery hungry.
If not, and a reboot doesn't fix it, I'm alredy running out of ideas. Maybe some additional informations (e.g. Better Battery Stats) can help to identify the problem
Have you searched? A Google search brings up apps like reality piano, airdroid and a yahoo messenger being culprits. Any of those?
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its the camera daemon. if you started the cam, and exited it, but didnt close/kill it, it temains running under some circumstances. either "kill" the camera or just reboot to fix it.

FaceBook app on Nexus 5

Has any ever tried to edit a comment on the facebook app? No matter what ROM I'm running it just won't allow it. I have to do it from the browser.
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It works on mine
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It works like champ.
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Hmm I guess its a defect on my phone then
what version of the fb app are you running?
I have the exact same thing. Maybe its just bad luck.
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Long-press on the comment. There is no visual, audible, or haptic feedback but it will open a context menu letting you delete or edit it.
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mackentosh said:
Hmm I guess its a defect on my phone then
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That it is definitely not. Any errors will be due to the Facebook app.
It doesn't happen all the time but yeah in Facebook when I focus a comment field sometimes the keyboard appears and then immediately disappears. Another major gripe I have with Facebook on this phone is that the graphic assets seem to be made for a lower res than this phone and so aren't as crisp as they should be. Especially the app icon in GEL. [/OT]
wake lock on Facebook is not good.
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mortenmhp said:
That it is definitely not. Any errors will be due to the Facebook app.
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Yea the Facebook app is awful. I think they'd be better off just asking someone on xda to develop it for them
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FB app is a hog. I've had to tweak it to disable a couple of the services and also the startups so it doesn't kill battery. So far it does pretty good. I use Xposed and use BootManager to have it not load on startup, as well as ReceiverStop and kill a couple Receivers (appwidget_update and connectivity_change) so it just kills background stuff, not the actual app functions.
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FB app is a hog. I've had to tweak it to disable a couple of the services and also the startups so it doesn't kill battery. So far it does pretty good. I use Xposed and use BootManager to have it not load on startup, as well as ReceiverStop and kill a couple Receivers (appwidget_update and connectivity_change) so it just kills background stuff, not the actual app functions.
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My facebook app doesnt drain at all weirdly, I set it to refresh every hour, notifications and messages always on, and sync turned off. Often appearing as the last or second last app on my battery stats at the end of the say with about 3% total usage, and yes I do use it, alot!
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Excessive battery drain from Google play services

I am running stock 4.4.2 rooted with xposed installed. The title pretty much explains it as well as the picture. I have a lot of apps greenified and have location set to battery saving and have rebooted several times but still get terrible battery drain from Google services
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trich_28 said:
I am running stock 4.4.2 rooted with xposed installed. The title pretty much explains it as well as the picture. I have a lot of apps greenified and have location set to battery saving and have rebooted several times but still get terrible battery drain from Google services
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first off, it being your first post, ill be nice. questions/help/troubleshooting does not go in general, it goes in the q&a/help/troubleshooting section. secondly, you should have searched xda before posting another thread, as we already have many threads about this. here is one that we have been using mainly, for this issue http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/normal-google-play-services-to-drain-20-t2519831
Sorry man just trying to solve this issue asap. You people should try not to be so stuck up to the newbies. I see it everywhere on this site
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trich_28 said:
Sorry man just trying to solve this issue asap. You people should try not to be so stuck up to the newbies. I see it everywhere on this site
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lol, i was even being nice! didnt say anything that would be considered mean or nasty, or just not nice. i know that youre new, and just trying to solve an issue, and i pointed you towards help. i was just explaining to you about how to post correctly. but we do have our own rules here, which everyone is expected to read and follow, even noobs.
Sorry won't happen again! I went to the thread you directed me to and disabled all the location ones in Google play services using "disable services" and it didn't work for me. Thanks for your help! I'll send a few thanks your way for the misunderstanding
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trich_28 said:
Sorry won't happen again! I went to the thread you directed me to and disabled all the location ones in Google play services using "disable services" and it didn't work for me. Thanks for your help! I'll send a few thanks your way for the misunderstanding
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if you disabled those that are shown in a screenshot, did you reboot first? if not, try again. then let the phone sit there for like 10 minutes, then check.
btw, i do agree with you about some of the meanness that goes on in xda. im not like that, i enjoy helping people too much. and the nexus 5 forums here also, it isnt as bad like the rest of xda. there are many here like me, that actually keep an eye on the forums, to make sure that meanness doesnt go on
Disable them all. Reboot. Then charge the phone fully so battery stats reset
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Disable them all. Reboot. Then charge the phone fully so battery stats reset
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dont disable them all.
im sure that he wants a phone that will function like it should, not one thats fully disabled.
simms22 said:
dont disable them all.
im sure that he wants a phone that will function like it should, not one thats fully disabled.
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I would like my phone to function like it should yes lol. I tried to reboot after disabling the ones with location and rebooted and waiting 10 minutes but Google play services time awake is still rising and has been awake for pretty much the whole batter cycle. Could greenify be causing such issues?
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I would like my phone to function like it should yes lol. I tried to reboot after disabling the ones with location and rebooted and waiting 10 minutes but Google play services time awake is still rising and has been awake for pretty much the whole batter cycle. Could greenify be causing such issues?
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no, greenify is innocent. if you got all the location, i wonder what else it could be..
would you post this screen from your default battery stats please..
Here ya go
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Here ya go
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thanks. yea, you definitely have something preventing your phone from syncing. check your google sync in main phone settings, check if any of the stuff that you normally sync isnt stuck syncing(either continuous spinning or stopped spinning). alsi, would you post the battery stats page with your apps % battery use.
I checked and it is not stuck syncing :/
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trich_28 said:
I checked and it is not stuck syncing :/
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were you listening to music for a while with the screen off?
simms22 said:
were you listening to music for a while with the screen off?
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Ya I listen to a lot of music with the screen turned off. Could that really cause this?
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trich_28 said:
Ya I listen to a lot of music with the screen turned off. Could that really cause this?
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well.. its probably what actually is keeping your phone awake. dont listen to any music for a while then post the history detail screenshot again.
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well.. its probably what actually is keeping your phone awake. dont listen to any music for a while then post the history detail screenshot again.
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Well I really like to listen to music lol but anyways play music is greenified every time after I use it
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trich_28 said:
Well I really like to listen to music lol but anyways play music is greenified every time after I use it
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maybe so, but at least i will be able to see how your phone actually sleeps, if it does or not, and how much it gets woken
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maybe so, but at least i will be able to see how your phone actually sleeps, if it does or not, and how much it gets woken
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I got this from wake lock detector. I hope it helps. Its Google services
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Could it not be your Google play music using Google services? Just a suggestion
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Random lag

I have noticed that sometimes i would get horrendous lag...to the point where it is unusable. Most of the time it will be fine but it will sometimes do this. It started only recently and maybe it is connected to my poor recent battery? I noticed this happens when i have low battery, it tends to happen here most,but not always..(battery saver is not on)
Please help!
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Does it happen when you are using certain apps? I am asking since certain kernel does that when using Chrome.
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Does it happen when you are using certain apps? I am asking since certain kernel does that when using Chrome.
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No, just random. I have no custom kernel
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