Accurate temperature readout? (MT7 running a little toasty) - Ascend Mate 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Device: MT7-TL10
Firmware: KangVIP555A - on B511
Any possible 'consumptive' third-party applications disabled
During ROM flashing I noticed the temperature readout at a worrying 68-92 degrees Celsius, which I expected considering how cpu-intensive it is
However, further investigation post-installation showed
CPUTemperature: 82C !
System Monitor: 50C
My first suspicion: These applications don't have native support for Kirin/Huawei processors. Is there anyway besides the warmth of the real surface to gauge the chipset temps?

I installed an app called DevCheck System Info and it shows all 9 cores, one of which was always doing above 60 degrees celsius and frequently a lot hotter. I think this is the single core used for deep sleep and basic system processes. It's the one that runs the pedometer too. It seems normal to me that this one is hot. The main CPU is fairly temperature stable.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=flar2.devcheck&hl=en
The same developer made the kernel tuning app I was using with Kitkat. On Lollipop I don't even use the app as it just runs better.

RobboW said:
I installed an app called DevCheck System Info and it shows all 9 cores, one of which was always doing above 60 degrees celsius and frequently a lot hotter. I think this is the single core used for deep sleep and basic system processes. It's the one that runs the pedometer too. It seems normal to me that this one is hot. The main CPU is fairly temperature stable.
The same developer made the kernel tuning app I was using with Kitkat. On Lollipop I don't even use the app as it just runs better.
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Just got around to installing the application...Thanks so much for resolving the issue so rapidly!
My experience resembles yours (65C SC - 43C SOC).

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Thermal throttling and hotplug settings

I have been able to fix quite a bit of thermal throttling experienced in multiple benchmark runs by tweaking with the thermal-engine configuration file. With just a few changes and with the copper shim mod I can now run geekbench for as many five times with almost no drop in score. After that I get no thermal throttling in single core but I have it setup to disable two cores after it hits 55C CPU temp in core 4 and 7. I use CPU Z to see actual CPU temp from the sensor readings. Even after 8 Geekbench runs the two cores are still running at full speed and the phone is registering 44C. It's warm but not hot by any means.
If anyone is interested in playing around with it just look for the file in \System\etc\thermal-engine-8994.conf
Most of it is just two adjustments. One for Max temperature at which it will throttle and the one below is the temperature at which throttling stops.
probaina said:
I have been able to fix quite a bit of thermal throttling experienced in multiple benchmark runs by tweaking with the thermal-engine configuration file. With just a few changes and with the copper shim mod I can now run geekbench for as many five times with almost no drop in score. After that I get no thermal throttling in single core but I have it setup to disable two cores after it hits 55C CPU temp in core 4 and 7. I use CPU Z to see actual CPU temp from the sensor readings. Even after 8 Geekbench runs the two cores are still running at full speed and the phone is registering 44C. It's warm but not hot by any means.
If anyone is interested in playing around with it just look for the file in \System\etc\thermal-engine-8994.conf
Most of it is just two adjustments. One for Max temperature at which it will throttle and the one below is the temperature at which throttling stops.
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Without your copper shim mod have you found any better but safe values we can try?
At least no thermal throttle until 55 celsiius
It should be safe without the copper shim. The thermal pad it comes with works pretty well. It will still thermal throttle to whatever temperature you set it at so it won't cause any harm.
I've set the Big cluster to a max of 65C and a single A57 core to up to 71C and haven't had any problems yet. I used to get horrible performance with PPSSPP emulator. When running Tony Hawk Project 8 in PPSSPP after 30 seconds of gameplay It used to drop to 6fps and now it can sustain over 20fps after reaching 71C on a single A57 core. I only saw a maximum battery temperature of 40C and the device wasn't noticeably warmer than it was with the default thermal settings.
probaina said:
It should be safe without the copper shim. The thermal pad it comes with works pretty well. It will still thermal throttle to whatever temperature you set it at so it won't cause any harm.
I've set the Big cluster to a max of 65C and a single A57 core to up to 71C and haven't had any problems yet. I used to get horrible performance with PPSSPP emulator. When running Tony Hawk Project 8 in PPSSPP after 30 seconds of gameplay It used to drop to 6fps and now it can sustain over 20fps after reaching 71C on a single A57 core. I only saw a maximum battery temperature of 40C and the device wasn't noticeably warmer than it was with the default thermal settings.
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[SS-LITTLE_CLUSTER_management]
algo_type ss
sampling 10000
sensor xo_therm
device cluster0
set_point 52000
set_point_clr 42000
action_type 10000
I should change for example here set_point to 70000? This is how it works?
kutulu32 said:
[SS-LITTLE_CLUSTER_management]
algo_type ss
sampling 10000
sensor xo_therm
device cluster0
set_point 52000
set_point_clr 42000
action_type 10000
I should change for example here set_point to 70000? This is how it works?
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Well yes. Except that's the little cluster and they don't get that hot normally. It's the big cluster that needs to be modified. I also tuned my display thermals so the screen wouldn't get so dim when the phone gets warm. Here you can look over my configuration if you want.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1yve5d0m7uin0ga/thermal-engine-8994.conf?dl=0
probaina said:
Well yes. Except that's the little cluster and they don't get that hot normally. It's the big cluster that needs to be modified. I also tuned my display thermals so the screen wouldn't get so dim when the phone gets warm. Here you can look over my configuration if you want.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1yve5d0m7uin0ga/thermal-engine-8994.conf?dl=0
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Thanks i will try them!!
your settings somehow "unlocked" my phones cpu. lol in geekbench I found an increase of performance of 200 points in multicore from 4020 I had before maximum , now nearly 4300 .It is impressive. also if I run 6-7 geekbench in a row there is a decrease everytime ex 4200 4050 3900 3600..... but temperature stays 45 degree.
I will test them more later.
http://browser.primatelabs.com/user/73366
Someone try this?
Wysłane z mojego LG-H955 przy użyciu Tapatalka
Other than the two of us?
kutulu32 said:
your settings somehow "unlocked" my phones cpu. lol in geekbench I found an increase of performance of 200 points in multicore from 4020 I had before maximum , now nearly 4300 .It is impressive. also if I run 6-7 geekbench in a row there is a decrease everytime ex 4200 4050 3900 3600..... but temperature stays 45 degree.
I will test them more later.
http://browser.primatelabs.com/user/73366
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Thanks for sharing your results. That's the highest multi core score I've seen on our phones. I never gotten that high of a multi core score. Glad to help. My configuration also tweaked the battery thermal settings so now you should see faster charge times as well. The default charge rates had really conservative thermal settings and the high speed charge would drop after a while but now it will 2.2 to 2.4 amp charge through the whole charge.
probaina said:
Thanks for sharing your results. That's the highest multi core score I've seen on our phones. I never gotten that high of a multi core score. Glad to help. My configuration also tweaked the battery thermal settings so now you should see faster charge times as well. The default charge rates had really conservative thermal settings and the high speed charge would drop after a while but now it will 2.2 to 2.4 amp charge through the whole charge.
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Yes indeed i saw a difference in chargin thanks for your effort in the configuration. I am not very fond of benchmarks but i run some in my devices after magor changes (firmware....). This device should have been speedier because of the full hd snapdragon 810 combination. I wonder if we delete the thermal config is the device gonna be speedier? I am waiting for 5.1.1 hoping for smoother rom. Lets hope soneone unlocks the bootloader!!!! I took my precautions disabling MLT lol
probaina said:
Well yes. Except that's the little cluster and they don't get that hot normally. It's the big cluster that needs to be modified. I also tuned my display thermals so the screen wouldn't get so dim when the phone gets warm. Here you can look over my configuration if you want.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1yve5d0m7uin0ga/thermal-engine-8994.conf?dl=0
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My phone gets really hot with those settings
I overwrote the original one ^^ has someone made a backup and can share it with me.?
I guess it depends on what you're doing but I probably wouldn't play any 3d games with those settings. Here's a copy of the original one https://www.dropbox.com/s/yb76q6qwanb9ujr/thermal-engine-8994.conf?dl=0
smouker said:
My phone gets really hot with those settings
I overwrote the original one ^^ has someone made a backup and can share it with me.?
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When you apply the settings you need to give time to the phone to 'absorve' them.
Run a couple of benchmarks, test a 4k video, reboot the phone 3-4 times, close it also.
I havent noticed higher tdmperature of 45 celsius.
kutulu32 said:
When you apply the settings you need to give time to the phone to 'absorve' them.
Run a couple of benchmarks, test a 4k video, reboot the phone 3-4 times, close it also.
I havent noticed higher tdmperature of 45 celsius.
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I noticed that haha now its fine
kutulu32 said:
Yes indeed i saw a difference in chargin thanks for your effort in the configuration. I am not very fond of benchmarks but i run some in my devices after magor changes (firmware....). This device should have been speedier because of the full hd snapdragon 810 combination. I wonder if we delete the thermal config is the device gonna be speedier? I am waiting for 5.1.1 hoping for smoother rom. Lets hope soneone unlocks the bootloader!!!! I took my precautions disabling MLT lol
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I'm not sure what would happen if you just deleted the file. Maybe it'll revert to some default, or perhaps it won't thermal throttle at all which would result in auto shut off when it overheats. Probably not worth risking it without a custom recovery in case it doesn't boot.
I have notice that my phone is way quicker now. It was fast before but now it's a beast when I push it hard. Also things like PPSSPP emulator was useless with the default thermal throttling now it can beat my Tegra note 7 with 4 A15 cores at 2.1ghz at it.
Was there a problem with your settings? I noticed your settings you had shared on dropbox are no longer available.
uh60james said:
Was there a problem with your settings? I noticed your settings you had shared on dropbox are no longer available.
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The folder was deleted for some odd reason. I was able to restore it so the link should work now. Let me know how it works out for you.
A few questions about these settings.
-At the top where you have SS-Little_Cluster_management and SS-Big_Cluster_management is the set point the shutdown temp for the entire cluster?
-I think this one is self explanatory by the action listed but towards the middle where CPUx_MONITOR for each core is, is the threshold the temperature at which the entire phone shuts down?
-I'm not sure I am noticing the difference between SS-CPUx and CPU_HOTPLUG_MONITOR. Could you explain these?
uh60james said:
A few questions about these settings.
-At the top where you have SS-Little_Cluster_management and SS-Big_Cluster_management is the set point the shutdown temp for the entire cluster?
-I think this one is self explanatory by the action listed but towards the middle where CPUx_MONITOR for each core is, is the threshold the temperature at which the entire phone shuts down?
-I'm not sure I am noticing the difference between SS-CPUx and CPU_HOTPLUG_MONITOR. Could you explain these?
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I don't want to assume I know everything about this. Everything I know about the thermal configuration file I learned from seeing others modify the LG G3 thermal config file. I also learned some by experimenting with my G Flex 2.
In my understanding SS-Little_Cluster_management and SS-Big_Cluster_management is the temperature at which the Cluster will thermal throttle when all cores in the cluster are being used at once. From what I've seen anything with "action_type 10000" means thermal throttle. The closest thing I can think off that works like that is how Intel I5 and I7 will limit turbo speed when more than one core is being used. Except in our case this is to prevent higher speeds when it reaches a certain temperature. So lets say your phone is running some heavy multithreaded app now it's going to follow the rules set in Cluster_management. The default Big Cluster temperature is set to start slowing things down when temperature reaches 48C and to not go back to full speed until the temperature drops down to 38C. One thing I find interesting is that at about 48C cluster temperatures was about where the Big cores would drop to a max of 1.5 ghz. So I'm just guessing that this setting may play a big part on the big cores max speed.
[CPUx_MONITOR] seems to shutdown the phone when the core reaches a certain temperature threshold of 120 C and I assume will not allow it to turn back on until it drops below 115C.
[SS-CPUx] on a big core seems to slow the specific core down when it reaches a temperature threshold of 85C and to not allow it to go to full speed until it drops below 55C. However this rule can be overwritten by [CPUx_HOTPLUG_MONITOR] which can shut down a core even if it hasn't reached it's maximum temperature threshold.
[CPUx_HOTPLUG_MONITOR] just tells the specific core to turn off once it reaches the temperature threshold specified. On the default configuration core 4 and 7 are set to turn off when their temperature goes above 50C. After that core 5 turns off at 58C and even core 6 turns off at 61C. At which point only the small cores will remain on.
I hope that helps somewhat.

[Q] Normal temperature

Hello, i had a at&t lg g (e970), and now i have a D850 that i bougt a few weeks ago, but since i bought ut i feel it a little warm, it isn't too hot but it still is a bit uncomfortable, and i want now if someone have a cpu temperature monitor, battery is cold, and can tell me how much is normal in this model, and which monitor you used.
I readed that it have temperature problem, but i only open for example a web page and it feel warm, if you can test it without any extra app running would great for me.
I used:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=temperature.mugich.com.thermo&hl=es
and only opened it i had at least 40 celsius, if i wait a minute it up 2 or 3 degrees.
i read some post, but i didn't see any value for normal temperature, i hope you can help me, thz
During normal usage my cpu temps are between 40 - 50c and it exceeds 50c when I play games. I think this is the standard for the G3.
Temperature
hello, thz for your answer mine start in 40-45 celsius, but if i open camera it go to 62, do you have same temperature with yours? or is only mine that have that temperature?. thz
My temperatures:
Normal use (facebook, instagram) ~45C
Camera ~48C
Opening a lot of apps sequentially ~55C
Randomly jumps up to 60C-65C for no reason when messing around with different apps and WiFi sync is open with LG PC Suite
Google Maps: ~62C
AnTuTu toped out at around 84C
I was wondering if my temperatures are high. Comparing to my friends Huawei P8 Lite the temperatures are about 60% higher. This is normal due to the 2x clockspeed of the 801ac vs the Kirin 620 of the Huawei.
Battery temp never exceeded 32C
Are other SD801 phones have such high temperatures? That's the question
Running Stock rom android lolipop 5.0

Galaxy s6 throttling as hell

Since I bought my gs6 I have noticed the soc temp heat up very quickly and couse a massive throttling of the gpu above all ...so that performances go down of 50% expecially when running antutu ...is that normal or should i send back my phone to warranty
every CPU throttles, the S810 throttles even more, they have to, and don't run benchmarks, they won't do you any good, if in day to day usage the phone heats up it's normal, my S6 do heat up but i never noticed throttling, i never noticed lag when it becomes hot.....try to use your phone normally without ****ty benchmarks...
Thanks for your answer
Yes I know benchmarks are quite worthless ..but it's not just about that..i notice this even while gaming ,browsing and even doing light stuff ..its however pretty much annoying
shajk-00 said:
Yes I know benchmarks are quite worthless ..but it's not just about that..i notice this even while gaming ,browsing and even doing light stuff ..its however pretty much annoying
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i don't play games that much, i only play couple of games like boom beach, i don't know if this game considered heavy or light, but if i play it for about half an hour the phone heats up a bit but it doesn't lag at all....in light usage usually it doesn't heat up, but even if it heats up i never notice lag, the phone stutters in some places but no lag.....
shajk-00 said:
Yes I know benchmarks are quite worthless ..but it's not just about that..i notice this even while gaming ,browsing and even doing light stuff ..its however pretty much annoying
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Hi,
Please install the app called CPU-Z to check your device temperature. Also keep in mind that depending on where you live, it's easier to heat up than on other regions, as the external temperature does make a difference.
To throttle it needs to get very hot. Check if you have Mobile Data and Location turned on when not needed, and specially Mobile data when you're out of range, they consume lots of power and heats the device up considerably. Also, Wifi if not connected will keep searching for somewhere to connect and consequently will use your device power and heat up.
Another thing to keep an eye on is background apps and the external temperature as mentioned before. On S4 I faced a serious battery drain and overheat problem due to background apps not letting it sleep.
All the best,
~Lord
Sent from my SM-G920I using Tapatalk
Already have cpu z on it
The temps get up to 80 degrees celsius when under really heavy usage ..of course this temp refers to cpu not to battery that stays always around 33 and 37 degrees
P.s i dont notice lag either. .even when performance decrease its good enough..i was only qondering wether it is normal or not
You may have a lemon S6. Return your S6 to Samsung for warranty replacement.
shajk-00 said:
The temps get up to 80 degrees celsius when under really heavy usage ..of course this temp refers to cpu not to battery that stays always around 33 and 37 degrees
P.s i dont notice lag either. .even when performance decrease its good enough..i was only qondering wether it is normal or not
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Hi,
80 degrees Celsius seems a bit high to me, like mentioned I'd check with Samsung if this device has a defective thermal dissipation.
All the best,
~Lord
Sent from my SM-G920I using Tapatalk
yep maybe i'll do
if only someone could send a screen (of cpuz ) showing their temps under usage i' d be able to compare these to mine and see what to do
shajk-00 said:
if only someone could send a screen (of cpuz ) showing their temps under usage i' d be able to compare these to mine and see what to do
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Hi,
Here's a screenshot of my device idle:
http://i.imgur.com/rS0VHnR.jpg
And here's one of my device after running AnTuTu benchmark:
http://i.imgur.com/hbNIngV.jpg
I noticed that during the benchmark it got to the 80 degrees range, but it lasted a few seconds, if your device get to 80 degrees and stay at it, maybe it isn't dissipating hear correctly.
All the best,
~Lord
Sent from my SM-G920I using Tapatalk
XxLordxX said:
Hi,
Here's a screenshot of my device idle:
http://i.imgur.com/rS0VHnR.jpg
And here's one of my device after running AnTuTu benchmark:
http://i.imgur.com/hbNIngV.jpg
I noticed that during the benchmark it got to the 80 degrees range, but it lasted a few seconds, if your device get to 80 degrees and stay at it, maybe it isn't dissipating hear correctly.
All the best,
~Lord
Sent from my SM-G920I using Tapatalk
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OK then there must be a problem with my device....I actually donno what other things could couse this abnormal heat but a production defeat....maybe the weather? ? I live in italy and here is 34 degrees..but i doubt it
Hmmm temp of the device cant be lower than your temp of ambient. Ill post screenshot pf mine after some minutes.i live in kosovo and temp here is aroud 33 today
Here is mine... dont forget bcoze case and screenprotector keeps your phone warmer. I dont use any. I use my phone naked
XxLordxX said:
Hi,
80 degrees Celsius seems a bit high to me, like mentioned I'd check with Samsung if this device has a defective thermal dissipation.
All the best,
~Lord
Sent from my SM-G920I using Tapatalk
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80 sounds crazy not a bit high
80 its high but device can reach that temp sometimes. Example if you play and fast charge same time it can get that temp. And not to forget outside real temp. Here its so hot... up to 40degrees
Hi All,
80 degrees is not as extremely as you might think. People tend to think its too crazy or high because they never would have seen it and the most times they check their cpu temps on CPU-Z it will be hovering around 40-50 degrees. The best way to check your temps in S6 is to open CPU-Z/AIDA64, have it minimised in a smaller window and drag it to the very corner of one side, while this is running, open a game like dead trigger/skyforce and notice the temps. Also, do the same while performing an antutu test. Yes, the scores will be greatly reduced and the temps will be a tiny bit higher because of this smaller window running simultaneously, but you can compare your temps pretty easily. Also, try to be present in a ambient temp of 26 degrees rather than upwards of 30 for a fair comparison with fellow users. According to me, 80 comes up at times but it lasts only for seconds (S6 starts throttling exactly at 80 and beyond that the core clocks gets aggressive reductions) but it will never be constand even while running a game. Mine CPU idles @35 degrees with ambient temp being 26-30.
My temps : (All temps in Celsius)
Ambient temperature 26 - 30 degrees :
Battery temp : 25-30 degrees
Idle : 32-35 degrees
Slight tasks (Whatsapp, checking notifications) : 37-39 degrees
Multiple applications : 38-43 degrees
Game - hungry shark evolution : 47-52 degrees
Game - Dead Trigger : 55-62 degrees.
Ambient temperature 31-36 degrees :
Battery temp : 33-37 degrees
Idle : 41-44 degrees
Slight tasks (Whatsapp, checking notifications) : 46-50 degrees
Multiple applications : 47-55 degrees
Game - hungry shark evolution : 55 degrees
Game - Dead Trigger : 65-70 degrees.
Also i've noticed that the CPU temps increase for a flash second to 65 above while installing multiple apps from playstore. Try updating/installing multiple apps from playstore, have the CPU-Z open, and exactly while the app finishes downloading and starts installing, there will be sudden spikes in temperatire depending on your ambient conditions. But, never reaches high temps constantly.
all right, thank you all guys for your replies. So..i sent my phone back to samsung and got a new one 2 days ago,i can definitely confirm that the phone heats up exactly like the previous one , maybe just slightly less(i mean 3 degrees..nothing craze).
For anyone suffering of this ''issue", notice that temps may drastically change depending on wheater temperature ,humidity, etc. if weather is at 40 degrees ur phone wont surely get to a lower temp.
BTW it s clear that this phone heats up and throttles ,some may notice that others not, so unless you receive overheating warnings or have other serious stuffs on ur device ,do not exchange it for a new one because certainly it ll be quite the same as the previous one. Oh it 's quite clear as well that folks claiming their device doesn't exceed 60 degrees under heavy usage either are liers or super lucky ones with uber super powerful units...think its more probably the first option.
regards ^^

Can disabling thermal throttling harm redmi k20 pro? (Using SyberiaOS) (CPU at 77 C)

Currently I am using SyberiaOS for playing games and have noticed that while setting thermal profile to gaming mode. The CPU temps get to 77 C and sometimes even 80 C. Though the battery temps are below 39 C. Then i performed thermal throttle test using the play store app and noticed that in the gaming profile, the CPU doesnt ever throttle which got me concerned and made me realize that in this mode, CPU throttling must be disabled.
My question is while using this mode (No CPU throttling)for 30 mins-1hr, can it damage my phone Soc, screen, etc in some way?
I play genshin impact and within 7 minutes, the phone CPU reached 77 C.
I use CPU meter to check cpu temps.
The CPU seems to maintain at 65 C at normal thermals. (With default mode).
High CPU temperature? Nothing will happen to your phone. Don't worry. When CPU temperature goes too high then Android is smart enough to throttle CPU usage at its own or even to shutdown the phone.
jwoegerbauer said:
High CPU temperature? Nothing will happen to your phone. Don't worry. When CPU temperature goes too high then Android is smart enough to throttle CPU usage at its own or even to shutdown the phone.
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What I am worried more about is other components of the phone. Since, while using the CPU throttle app, it didnt seem to throttle even once, so the only option here is The HW level Soc shutdown under high temps.
Must admit I don't understand what your issue is.
By disabling thermal throttling you may damage your device and at the very least will invalidate your warranty.
As previously said: There is no need for thermal throttling on phone at all, hardware does a good enough job clearing the heat.
Anyway: Look inside here
Android Phone Overheating? Here Are 11 Ways To Cool Down Your Android Phone
Smartphones are getting more advanced every day, with an increase in power and a decrease in size. However, this advancement has also led to an increase
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Development [MOD]Thermal-Throttling-Modifier[Pixel 7 Pro]

Code:
/*
* Your warranty is now void.
* I am not responsible for bricked devices thermonuclear war, or you getting fired because the alarm app failed
* Please do some research if you have any concerns about what this MOD does before flashing it
* YOU are choosing to make these modifications, don't point fingers at me if something goes wrong
*/
Ladies and gentlemen,
A small modification for you with great and HOT results.​
Changes I made to the thermal configuration:
-The default Virtual-SKIN-based throttling threshold was starting at 39 Celsius, that was removed and the first threshold value is now 55 Celsius (at 55C it will HARD throttle, throttling is not completely eliminated here on purpose and at 55C it will behave the same as the default throttling mechanism at that temperature).
Keep in mind that SOC will throttle regardless of when it hits its own TjMax values so you don't need to worry about any "meltdown". lol
- Display won't switch to 60Hz anymore and neither will the maximal possible brightness be reduced as it is normally happening with stock throttling thresholds.
So far I'm using this on EvoX ROM but this should work basically on ANY ROM as the throttling is relying on the same file and as far as I managed to observe (amount of ROMs checked out) it's the same on those ROMs.
Pros:
- Throttling thresholds are drastically increased, meaning if you experienced any HIGH FPS drops during playing any "heavy" games, this will prevent that from happening to an extent and time.
- Any apps that rely on high processing power, will have more space and time to work without being affected by thermal throttling
Cons:
- Depending on your usage and what exactly you do on your phone, the device could get uncomfortably warm in your hands, and battery temperature will raise MORE than you got used to it since the SOC won't be throttled that fast as it does on the stock. Keep in mind that high battery temps are not healthy, and they will cause faster degradation. Degradation occurs anyways, the question is only how fast based on the temps the battery is being exposed to. Many OEMs allow such temps, so, Pixel 7 series with this mod isn't anything different compared to them.
- If you're a heavy "gamer" and play some games like Genshin, TOF, COD (at 120fps), etc... (you'll have a smoother experience (less FPS drops) based on slower/weaker throttling) but I recommend always using a Peltier cooler to keep that battery and the device as cool as possible (regardless if this phone or another).
Why did I create this mod?
I personally use an app called MotionCam Pro. It's basically a RAW video recording app that relies on HIGH processing power (it records RAW DNG frames) and it heats up the device pretty fast, well, Pixel 7 Pro hits the throttling threshold really fast and it's causing the recording to drop A LOT of frames to a point that the footage recorded is not "usable".
With this mod, I can now shoot RAW videos for longer periods with almost no dropped frames and under higher ambient temps. Yes, the phone warms up much more, but it does the JOB for me and that's all that matters to me anyway. I don't care if I'll need to replace my battery after 1 year instead of 2 years because I lost maybe 15-20% of the battery capacity (I upgrade my phones almost yearly).
Have fun frying eggs on your phone.
Installation
- Flash via Magisk
- Reboot your device
- Enjoy​
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JohnTheFarm3r said:
Installation
- Flash via Magisk
- Reboot your device
- Enjoy​
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Thanks for sharing this with us
JohnTheFarm3r said:
Changes I made to the thermal configuration:
-The default Virtual-SKIN-based throttling threshold was starting at 39 Celsius, that was removed and the first threshold value is now 55 Celsius (at 55C it will HARD throttle, throttling is not completely eliminated here on purpose and at 55C it will behave the same as the default throttling mechanism at that temperature).
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Is it possible to change threshold around 41 Celsius? 55 Celsius is quite hard temp for me, but 39 is to low. I think best for me will be around 41 ~ 42. Thanks for reply
Too bad there is no mod that limits the CPU temperature to 26 degrees Celsius 🥹
Sasaiber said:
Too bad there is no mod that limits the CPU temperature to 26 degrees Celsius 🥹
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There actually is. Open up the phone, remove the "heatsink" from the SOC, and add liquid nitrogen to keep the CPU under 30c degrees.
What device has a CPU temperature lower than 30 Celsius degrees? That doesn't even happen in idle mode, and especially not with passively cooled CPU/GPUs
JohnTheFarm3r said:
There actually is. Open up the phone, remove the "heatsink" from the SOC, and add liquid nitrogen to keep the CPU under 30c degrees.
What device has a CPU temperature lower than 30 Celsius degrees? That doesn't even happen in idle mode, and especially not with passively cooled CPU/GPUs
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I've regularly seen my SOC sit between 27c and 30c when idle.
Beefheart said:
I've regularly seen my SOC sit between 27c and 30c when idle.
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I have the temperature of the battery itself 27-35 in normal use on lte. Samsung s22 ultra Stays at 25 degrees(((
The hot battery issue was back in the Pixel 6 Pro. In summer, at 27 - 45 degrees when using social networks.
Pixel 7 pro is now - 31 degrees battery at 11 degrees room temperature .
I already have a custom kernel - does not help
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I've regularly seen my SOC sit between 27c and 30c when idle.
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Of course, it depends on the ambient temperature a lot. Don't take it literally, but you know what I meant.
As soon as you touch your phone it will start spiking way above 40c and under some load instantly 50c+.
Tensor G2's default TjMax is 100c. YES, 100c.
Thank you for this, makes things much more bearable. Stock thermal throttling is really bad.
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Of course, it depends on the ambient temperature a lot. Don't take it literally, but you know what I meant.
As soon as you touch your phone it will start spiking way above 40c and under some load instantly 50c+.
Tensor G2's default TjMax is 100c. YES, 100c.
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So it does happen in idle then.
cant wait for pixel 8 pro with tensor G3 zuma manufactured in 3nm process
Paz9 said:
Thank you for this, makes things much more bearable. Stock thermal throttling is really bad.
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Indeed. I'm not a fan of the "heat", but I would rather bear with the heat on the surface of the phone than have a completely crippled phone when it hits the throttling threshold. As I mentioned, the apps I use are completely useless when that happens.
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Indeed. I'm not a fan of the "heat", but I would rather bear with the heat on the surface of the phone than have a completely crippled phone when it hits the throttling threshold. As I mentioned, the apps I use are completely useless when that happens.
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yes dropping frames when using android auto and want to record something is really annoying because phone get 40C while using android auto and you can miss good video while driving
I'm really interested in knowing how you use the MotionCam on Pixel 7 Pro. i tried it and edited the footage with the app itself and it turned out to be super noisy. Any tutorial would be awesome.
Also, do you know if it's possible for Pixel 7 Pro to get DC Dimming?
This is unfortunately not compatible with TD1A.220804.031 - causes phone to hang on G with progress bar
It seems a little counter intuitive, but my phone stays cooler in standby with this mod. I believe it is because it no longer throttles during longer tasks in the background, like photo or DropBox syncs. Of course it also heats up more while gaming, but the performance also doesn't degrade. Thanks for this OP!
@JohnTheFarm3r Does this mod work with the latest March update? Thank you!
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@JohnTheFarm3r Does this mod work with the latest March update? Thank you!
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You can test it and let us know.
I'm not on STOCK ROM. Also, I doubt Google did a big change when it comes to thermal configuration, so it should work.
Since it's a magisk module, it's easy to test, if it doesn't work, it can be removed.
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You can test it and let us know.
I'm not on STOCK ROM. Also, I doubt Google did a big change when it comes to thermal configuration, so it should work.
Since it's a magisk module, it's easy to test, if it doesn't work, it can be removed.
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Confirmed working with March update. Thank you.

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