Since I bought my gs6 I have noticed the soc temp heat up very quickly and couse a massive throttling of the gpu above all ...so that performances go down of 50% expecially when running antutu ...is that normal or should i send back my phone to warranty
every CPU throttles, the S810 throttles even more, they have to, and don't run benchmarks, they won't do you any good, if in day to day usage the phone heats up it's normal, my S6 do heat up but i never noticed throttling, i never noticed lag when it becomes hot.....try to use your phone normally without ****ty benchmarks...
Thanks for your answer
Yes I know benchmarks are quite worthless ..but it's not just about that..i notice this even while gaming ,browsing and even doing light stuff ..its however pretty much annoying
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Yes I know benchmarks are quite worthless ..but it's not just about that..i notice this even while gaming ,browsing and even doing light stuff ..its however pretty much annoying
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i don't play games that much, i only play couple of games like boom beach, i don't know if this game considered heavy or light, but if i play it for about half an hour the phone heats up a bit but it doesn't lag at all....in light usage usually it doesn't heat up, but even if it heats up i never notice lag, the phone stutters in some places but no lag.....
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Yes I know benchmarks are quite worthless ..but it's not just about that..i notice this even while gaming ,browsing and even doing light stuff ..its however pretty much annoying
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Hi,
Please install the app called CPU-Z to check your device temperature. Also keep in mind that depending on where you live, it's easier to heat up than on other regions, as the external temperature does make a difference.
To throttle it needs to get very hot. Check if you have Mobile Data and Location turned on when not needed, and specially Mobile data when you're out of range, they consume lots of power and heats the device up considerably. Also, Wifi if not connected will keep searching for somewhere to connect and consequently will use your device power and heat up.
Another thing to keep an eye on is background apps and the external temperature as mentioned before. On S4 I faced a serious battery drain and overheat problem due to background apps not letting it sleep.
All the best,
~Lord
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Already have cpu z on it
The temps get up to 80 degrees celsius when under really heavy usage ..of course this temp refers to cpu not to battery that stays always around 33 and 37 degrees
P.s i dont notice lag either. .even when performance decrease its good enough..i was only qondering wether it is normal or not
You may have a lemon S6. Return your S6 to Samsung for warranty replacement.
shajk-00 said:
The temps get up to 80 degrees celsius when under really heavy usage ..of course this temp refers to cpu not to battery that stays always around 33 and 37 degrees
P.s i dont notice lag either. .even when performance decrease its good enough..i was only qondering wether it is normal or not
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Hi,
80 degrees Celsius seems a bit high to me, like mentioned I'd check with Samsung if this device has a defective thermal dissipation.
All the best,
~Lord
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yep maybe i'll do
if only someone could send a screen (of cpuz ) showing their temps under usage i' d be able to compare these to mine and see what to do
shajk-00 said:
if only someone could send a screen (of cpuz ) showing their temps under usage i' d be able to compare these to mine and see what to do
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Hi,
Here's a screenshot of my device idle:
http://i.imgur.com/rS0VHnR.jpg
And here's one of my device after running AnTuTu benchmark:
http://i.imgur.com/hbNIngV.jpg
I noticed that during the benchmark it got to the 80 degrees range, but it lasted a few seconds, if your device get to 80 degrees and stay at it, maybe it isn't dissipating hear correctly.
All the best,
~Lord
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Hi,
Here's a screenshot of my device idle:
http://i.imgur.com/rS0VHnR.jpg
And here's one of my device after running AnTuTu benchmark:
http://i.imgur.com/hbNIngV.jpg
I noticed that during the benchmark it got to the 80 degrees range, but it lasted a few seconds, if your device get to 80 degrees and stay at it, maybe it isn't dissipating hear correctly.
All the best,
~Lord
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OK then there must be a problem with my device....I actually donno what other things could couse this abnormal heat but a production defeat....maybe the weather? ? I live in italy and here is 34 degrees..but i doubt it
Hmmm temp of the device cant be lower than your temp of ambient. Ill post screenshot pf mine after some minutes.i live in kosovo and temp here is aroud 33 today
Here is mine... dont forget bcoze case and screenprotector keeps your phone warmer. I dont use any. I use my phone naked
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Hi,
80 degrees Celsius seems a bit high to me, like mentioned I'd check with Samsung if this device has a defective thermal dissipation.
All the best,
~Lord
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80 sounds crazy not a bit high
80 its high but device can reach that temp sometimes. Example if you play and fast charge same time it can get that temp. And not to forget outside real temp. Here its so hot... up to 40degrees
Hi All,
80 degrees is not as extremely as you might think. People tend to think its too crazy or high because they never would have seen it and the most times they check their cpu temps on CPU-Z it will be hovering around 40-50 degrees. The best way to check your temps in S6 is to open CPU-Z/AIDA64, have it minimised in a smaller window and drag it to the very corner of one side, while this is running, open a game like dead trigger/skyforce and notice the temps. Also, do the same while performing an antutu test. Yes, the scores will be greatly reduced and the temps will be a tiny bit higher because of this smaller window running simultaneously, but you can compare your temps pretty easily. Also, try to be present in a ambient temp of 26 degrees rather than upwards of 30 for a fair comparison with fellow users. According to me, 80 comes up at times but it lasts only for seconds (S6 starts throttling exactly at 80 and beyond that the core clocks gets aggressive reductions) but it will never be constand even while running a game. Mine CPU idles @35 degrees with ambient temp being 26-30.
My temps : (All temps in Celsius)
Ambient temperature 26 - 30 degrees :
Battery temp : 25-30 degrees
Idle : 32-35 degrees
Slight tasks (Whatsapp, checking notifications) : 37-39 degrees
Multiple applications : 38-43 degrees
Game - hungry shark evolution : 47-52 degrees
Game - Dead Trigger : 55-62 degrees.
Ambient temperature 31-36 degrees :
Battery temp : 33-37 degrees
Idle : 41-44 degrees
Slight tasks (Whatsapp, checking notifications) : 46-50 degrees
Multiple applications : 47-55 degrees
Game - hungry shark evolution : 55 degrees
Game - Dead Trigger : 65-70 degrees.
Also i've noticed that the CPU temps increase for a flash second to 65 above while installing multiple apps from playstore. Try updating/installing multiple apps from playstore, have the CPU-Z open, and exactly while the app finishes downloading and starts installing, there will be sudden spikes in temperatire depending on your ambient conditions. But, never reaches high temps constantly.
all right, thank you all guys for your replies. So..i sent my phone back to samsung and got a new one 2 days ago,i can definitely confirm that the phone heats up exactly like the previous one , maybe just slightly less(i mean 3 degrees..nothing craze).
For anyone suffering of this ''issue", notice that temps may drastically change depending on wheater temperature ,humidity, etc. if weather is at 40 degrees ur phone wont surely get to a lower temp.
BTW it s clear that this phone heats up and throttles ,some may notice that others not, so unless you receive overheating warnings or have other serious stuffs on ur device ,do not exchange it for a new one because certainly it ll be quite the same as the previous one. Oh it 's quite clear as well that folks claiming their device doesn't exceed 60 degrees under heavy usage either are liers or super lucky ones with uber super powerful units...think its more probably the first option.
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My HOX running on 4.2.2 Sense 5 stock rom is having heat issues i believe i dont know if its normal
PS default Kernel (still cant get Beastmode,god knows why)
i use "ondemand" as my governor and "noop" as my scheduler with set cpu
i also have trickster mod installed but i use it only for monitoring temp and on what frequency is the cpu running!
when its idle temp is temp of cpu is 35 degrees Celsius and battery 26 degrees Celsius
whenever I am using my phone for internet for benchmarks etc CPU is 40 degrees Celsius and battery is at around 32 degrees Celsius
the phone feels ok
but whenever i start any game no matter how simple it maybe (this applies for a wide spectrum of games ranging from * ball pool to demanding games like Asphalt 8) i notice my backside especially region around my camera getting warmer (now its not very hot but you can tell the difference)
at that time the reading shown is CPU is 45 degrees Celsius and battery becomes 36 degrees Celsius
PS the phone never restarts the game doesn't crash it runs smoothly
is it normal!?
i have read on web that lithium polymer batteries should be kept below 35 degrees Celsius for optimum life and performance
i dot have any background apps running whem i am gaming and the rise is observed in a few minutes or so i usually play a game for max 15 mins after that everything cools down!
this rise is also observed during taking back up through Twrp!
Those temps seem totally normal. Yes, higher temperatures are stressful to Li ion batteries, and hasten capacity loss. But to some extent, you need to try not to worry about it, and enjoy the phone for what it is.
While I don't game much, I do notice the phone getting warm while using Navigation, Netflix, etc. I've had my EVITA since just after release in May 2012, and I haven't noticed any loss in battery life.
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Those temps seem totally normal. Yes, higher temperatures are stressful to Li ion batteries, and hasten capacity loss. But to some extent, you need to try not to worry about it, and enjoy the phone for what it is.
While I don't game much, I do notice the phone getting warm while using Navigation, Netflix, etc. I've had my EVITA since just after release in May 2012, and I haven't noticed any loss in battery life.
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you know the device very well and since u says its normal m glad
thanks u saved me i was thinking of what not like under volting and all those tweaks with the kernel!
Btw redpoint is i know the nature of ondemand governor but in my case it is either the max or min frequency it operates,so is it a good idea to switch over to powersave?
(and does our kernel support that)
redpoint73 said:
Those temps seem totally normal. Yes, higher temperatures are stressful to Li ion batteries, and hasten capacity loss. But to some extent, you need to try not to worry about it, and enjoy the phone for what it is.
While I don't game much, I do notice the phone getting warm while using Navigation, Netflix, etc. I've had my EVITA since just after release in May 2012, and I haven't noticed any loss in battery life.
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you know the device very well and since u say its normal its gotta be,m glad :good:
thanks u saved me i was thinking of what not like under volting and all those tweaks with the kernel!
Btw redpoint is i know the nature of ondemand governor but in my case it is either the max or min frequency it operates,so is it a good idea to switch over to powersave?
(and does our kernel support that)
Sonone said:
Btw redpoint is i know the nature of ondemand governor but in my case it is either the max or min frequency it operates,so is it a good idea to switch over to powersave?
(and does our kernel support that)
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Haven't used SetCPU in a while, but pretty sure if the option appears in SetCPU, its supported by the kernel. Depending on what kernel you have installed, more or less governor options will be visible.
Governor seems like a trial and error type of choice. It depends on how you use your phone, and not everyone will get the same results.
Lol those temps are nothing, I've had my battery up to 66° Celsius.
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Lol those temps are nothing, I've had my battery up to 66° Celsius.
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66° Celsius. seriously and that too the battery?
like is this normal?
besides the phone doesn't restart or get damaged?
Yep, 66° battery temp. That isn't a normal operating temperature though, that was while my phone was rendering a huge picsphere image from the Focal camera.
There are safeguards in place in case the phone does reach a temperature that would damage the phone. The phone will first warn you it's getting hot by flashing the led red and green, if it continues to heat up it will shut down.
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I have never encountered that good m in the safe zone!
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hi, my z3 gets around 45-48 degree celcius while idling. and could get up to 58 degree celcius while playing game. is that normal? if its not, how can i fix it?
Seems pretty warm for idling. Do you live in a hot place/region? What apps have you downloaded? Maybe there are some errant apps. As for games yea Im not surprised if its getting that hot.
Sorry for the necroing the thread, but this is relevant. I live in Eastern Canada and right now it is the winter time. My house is room temperature and this my phone's "tsens_tz_sensor0" is fluctuating between 47 to 50 degrees Celsius.
Sensor 5 is fluctuating between 54 to 56 degrees Celsius. Sensor 6 is between 45 to 46. Sensor 8 is between 43 to 45. The other sensors show minimal to no change at all.
Is this normal?? My phone has an unlocked bootloader, I'm running updated, stock CA generic rom, and it is rooted. Before unlock of the bootloader, my phone was running fine temperature wise, but I did not check the temperature checking app.
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I was Searching for Temperature issues with Z3 because i have temps of about 40-42 C when recording Videos..
Coming across with this it seems really bad.
and i am recording at 1080p 30fps and after about 15mins i get the Temperature too high warning, is that normal??
I Live in a Pretty Hot Place but i have My S3 Beat it like its no big deal.. it can go for about an hour at same settings
Yeah it's expected the S3 has an older 1.4 Ghz A9 CPU, the Z3's 801 runs at 2.5 Ghz which means higher voltage and in turn temps. Samsung also allow the chipset to run hotter.
Do you use the FB messenger?
I found it caused my phone battery drain and warm.
Uninstalled and fixed.
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Do you use the FB messenger?
I found it caused my phone battery drain and warm.
Uninstalled and fixed.
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Hi, please tell us how do you realize that?
My another forum group found it and share to us.
As far as I know Z3 don't have any sensor for temperature measure :-?
How you guys can give such accurate readings?
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Hi guys I'm wondering what's your normal temperature values.
I've received my OP7 pro today and I started right way installing apps, restoring 4 GB of WhatsApp data, and I've found that my device was some how kind of hot.
I've decided to install AnTuTu benchmark app, and when I've started the Stress test, I've noticed temperature peaks of 80°C.
Should I be worried? Have anyone of you guys tried?
I noticed mine also got kinda hot when was wrap charging...but 10 lays of liquid cooling is 10 layers
Well, mine on charging I didn't notice any thing odd.
It as only when pushing a bit for him. And I was mesmerized with the 80 °C in the stress test. I know is supposed for that test to burn the phone, but I never thought that would reach so higher values
I believe that my only fear is that the thermal system might be wrongly attached and I don't know.
Thus me trying to understand what is the normal temperature people are having
Normal temp is 90. When you wrap charge from like 5 percent to 60ish it goes up to 108 then cools down
Thank you for your reply!
Well, you are speaking about the Battery temperature while charging.
I'm worried about the other temperatures, like CPU. Like I said, if I try to run a stress test with Antutu, the temperatures on cpu have spikes to 90°C almost.
Even though I know that's normal to have spikes like these ones, I can't stop being a bit worried about the thermal resistance of the phone itself.
I totally understand that in normal use temperatures won't go so high than on a stress test, but it's for understanding how well is the phone prepared to sustain higher temperatures during large time intervals.
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Normal temp is 90. When you wrap charge from like 5 percent to 60ish it goes up to 108 then cools down
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Your image is in F , his 80C.
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When I'm playing games such as Asphalt 9, PUBG or shadowgun legends on max resolution, max brightness and bluetooth on my Oneplus 7 pro's CPU temperature gets really hot, like really hot 73 degrees Celsius when playing for only 30 minutes. The weathers temperature is 17 degrees Celsius. Below is an attachment of the CPU's temperature graph. The screenshots are made a minute or so after closing the game Shadowgun Legends. I'm kinda worried of damaging the hardware with such temperatures. Is it normal to have such high temperatures and does it damage any of the hardware inside? And does anyone experience the same issue?
This just in! Playing graphics-intense games on a phone makes it hot! More at 11:00.
u should have gotten nubia red magic 3 instead.. op7pro is an allrounder.. perfect for modding, camera, display king etc.. it games good but if u want to replace your pc gaming with a phone u should have gone with red magic.. that thing is MADE SPECIALLY FOR THAT.
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When I'm playing games such as Asphalt 9, PUBG or shadowgun legends on max resolution, max brightness and bluetooth on my Oneplus 7 pro's CPU temperature gets really hot, like really hot 73 degrees Celsius when playing for only 30 minutes. The weathers temperature is 17 degrees Celsius. Below is an attachment of the CPU's temperature graph. The screenshots are made a minute or so after closing the game Shadowgun Legends. I'm kinda worried of damaging the hardware with such temperatures. Is it normal to have such high temperatures and does it damage any of the hardware inside? And does anyone experience the same issue?
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This just in! Playing graphics-intense games on a phone makes it hot! More at 11:00.
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I understand that a phone gets really hot while gaming but 73 degrees Celsius really scared me.
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u should have gotten nubia red magic 3 instead.. op7pro is an allrounder.. perfect for modding, camera, display king etc.. it games good but if u want to replace your pc gaming with a phone u should have gone with red magic.. that thing is MADE SPECIALLY FOR THAT.
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I really like the phone but as you say oneplus 7 pro is an allrounder. I don't play that often to buy a phone specifically for gaming but I hoped that the 10 layers cooling in the oneplus 7 pro would work a little better.
For some reason the 7 pro is set to throttle at much higher temperatures than normal, I suppose in order to preserve performance but it gets too hot and battery drains horribly fast. Personally I think they should adress this because above 50 is just too much even directly on the SOC, there have been situations like this in the past and they were adressed accordingly.
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For some reason the 7 pro is set to throttle at much higher temperatures than normal, I suppose in order to preserve performance but it gets too hot and battery drains horribly fast. Personally I think they should adress this because above 50 is just too much even directly on the SOC, there have been situations like this in the past and they were adressed accordingly.
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do you know anything about silicon? these chips can stand over 120 degrees celsius.
the SOC isnt something i'd worry about, maybe the other components, but still 50 degrees is perfectly normal.
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do you know anything about silicon? these chips can stand over 120 degrees celsius.
the SOC isnt something i'd worry about, maybe the other components, but still 50 degrees is perfectly normal.
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I think I should ask you that same question. It's definitely safe for the cpu to go as high as 70 C, but that heat needs to go somewhere and it will fry you fingers, so it's not really great for the user. Your 120 C claim is bollocks, you won't get close to that with any phone component, especially with newer ones, as the lower the process node, the lower the throttling temps are set(at least ideally). The 7 pro doesn't throttle as much as other devices, but it sure gets hotter than them, as anandtech has noted in their review.
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I think I should ask you that same question. It's definitely safe for the cpu to go as high as 70 C, but that heat needs to go somewhere and it will fry you fingers, so it's not really great for the user. Your 120 C claim is bollocks, you won't get close to that with any phone component, especially with newer ones, as the lower the process node, the lower the throttling temps are set(at least ideally). The 7 pro doesn't throttle as much as other devices, but it sure gets hotter than them, as anandtech has noted in their review.
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i said they can STAND that temperature, not that should get to that temperature.
IMO anything under 60-70 degrees C is safe. if it starts to climb above 70 then i would think something is wrong.
also OP phones have throttling at higher temps, it took 65 degrees for my OP6 to throttle down.
my Pixel3XL would throttle at 45-50 degrees (idle on them was 35 so its nonsense)
I know so many oneplus 7 pro users but you're the first person I've come across of this issue... I'm facing the same issue its even reaching 80°c on my OnePlus 7 pro. it wasn't earlier but this problem came after the latest update and i tried downgrading but it didnt help either so I'm pretty sure its a software bug.
Since there are only a few people OnePlus has not addressed the issue yet just make this issue more popular.
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I understand that a phone gets really hot while gaming but 73 degrees Celsius really scared me.
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73° is nothing... youre phone cant overheat, it will throttle down to prevent overheating... just play and have fun.
My phone is One plus 7 pro. While charging batter get over heated at 48 degree celceius. I got the messgae display to shut the power as it will not charge the battery beyond 91%. So there is auto temp set us in the phone to take so much heat.
thanks to Oneplus design strategy.
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Help, I got a oneplus 8 but the device throttles and starts lagging profusely immediately it reaches 44 degree Celsius, I've tried everything from custom roms to magisk modules, nothing works, I got this phone to play games but it cant even do that for more than 10 mins as it starts lagging.
EbaFufu said:
Help, I got a oneplus 8 but the device throttles and starts lagging profusely immediately it reaches 44 degree Celsius, I've tried everything from custom roms to magisk modules, nothing works, I got this phone to play games but it cant even do that for more than 10 mins as it starts lagging.
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(1) Does it overheat when only playing games?
(2) Does it overheat when not playing games?
Meh, load DevChek and see which if any sensors are running hot.
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(1) Does it overheat when only playing games?
(2) Does it overheat when not playing games?
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Only when playing, it's a Snapdragon 865 with 12gb of ram phone and it cant even play games at the lowest graphics for more than 5 minutes without lagging
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Only when playing, it's a Snapdragon 865 with 12gb of ram phone and it cant even play games at the lowest graphics for more than 5 minutes without lagging
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There are modules designed specifically for gaming needs. Here are a few for testing purposes.
A phone’s internal temperature can be 36-43 degrees Celsius (96.8-109.4 degrees Fahrenheit) and still be considered normal.
Arguably, its fine, if anything that's considered "cool" considering the chips can withstand up to 90°+.
The temperature reading you're seeing is simply the "system" temperature. The CPU and GPU hit well above 90c on games like Genshin Impact, there is nothing to worry about as those chips are designed to run these high temperatures. If high temperatures on SoC's would have been as damaging as some people make them out to be all devices would have been dead by now, but they still run despite thermal throttling at almost 100c nonstop.
-- YMMV
Taking any sensor above 160F isn't a good idea as a runaway component frying temperature excusions (caused by temperature control hysterious) can and do happen. You need a buffer zone to help avoid this...
High temperatures and current drain trash Li's prematurely as well. Any constant drain of 800 mAh or greater will effect battery longevity. Some of these newer phones are drawing an average of 1Ah when not even gaming, ridiculous.
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There are modules designed specifically for gaming needs. Here are a few for testing purposes.
A phone’s internal temperature can be 36-43 degrees Celsius (96.8-109.4 degrees Fahrenheit) and still be considered normal.
Arguably, its fine, if anything that's considered "cool" considering the chips can withstand up to 90°+.
The temperature reading you're seeing is simply the "system" temperature. The CPU and GPU hit well above 90c on games like Genshin Impact, there is nothing to worry about as those chips are designed to run these high temperatures. If high temperatures on SoC's would have been as damaging as some people make them out to be all devices would have been dead by now, but they still run despite thermal throttling at almost 100c nonstop.
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Thanks, I've tried some magisk modules in the past but none of them works and some of them bricked the phone and I couldn't boot up without formatting it, I'll need to make a back up before trying any of these so I won't loose files again.
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Taking any sensor above 160F isn't a good idea as a runaway component frying temperature excusions (caused by temperature control hysterious) can and do happen. You need a buffer zone to help avoid this...
High temperatures and current drain trash Li's prematurely as well. Any constant drain of 800 mAh or greater will effect battery longevity. Some of these newer phones are drawing an average of 1Ah when not even gaming, ridiculous.
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The phone is fairly strong for it to start throttling at 44 degree Celsius is just barbaric, I'm in Africa and 44 is just the normal temperature for any phone, because the weather's hot
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The phone is fairly strong for it to start throttling at 44 degree Celsius is just barbaric, I'm in Africa and 44 is just the normal temperature for any phone, because the weather's hot
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If the humidity is low use a damp microfiber cloth to cradle it in. If the battery goes above 108F it may trigger throttle back even shutdown.
It likely will not charge above 104F.
Keep it out of the sun, always. Use manual brightness control and keep it under 50% whenever possible. Optimize it and take out the trashware like FB, WhatsApp and such.
I can use my phone at 100F for prolonged times with no cooling for browsing but need cooling for vids or such as well as charging at those temperatures.