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[Xiaomi Mi A1] Is anyone else surprised by this being called an Android One?

Hello,
Xiaomi Mi A1 came and my brother got one today. I looked into it and was surprised to find that it's an Android One device but missing the signature Google Apps/Features --
Google Phone (Dialer)
This device has com.android.dialer which is AOSP dialer, but even Micromax Canvas A1, the original Android One device has Google Dialer app and gets updated to date.
Google Contacts
Even when Google Contacts app is available to all devices from Play Store since recently, this device comes with AOSP Contacts App, out of my understanding.
Google Camera
This, maybe due to special Camera and lenses feature so justified, but Android One devices were considered Nexus/Pixel cheaper brothers and a variant of Google Camera was expected.
I have disabled AOSP Contacts and have installed Google Contacts, but the same is not possible for Google Phone app and hence it bothers me always. Why an Android One device wouldn't come with Google Phone/Dialer?
Also, there is a "Feedback" app from Xiaomi which can't be disabled. What purpose would it solve?
Why not Stock as it was in past Android One programs? This makes Android One more in control of Xiaomi's than in Google's. I didn't see any review or articles indicating towards this and feel a little cheated.
Thanks.

Xiaomi is a Big company than those from Android One 1st and 2nd gen have.
Xiaomi and Google signed a partnership for Android One program, it doesn't owned wholely by Google.

vijay-in said:
Hello,
Xiaomi Mi A1 came and my brother got one today. I looked into it and was surprised to find that it's an Android One device but missing the signature Google Apps/Features --
I have disabled AOSP Contacts and have installed Google Contacts, but the same is not possible for Google Phone app and hence it bothers me always. Why an Android One device wouldn't come with Google Phone/Dialer?
Thanks.
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I too wondered the same, but, their is workaround.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/app-google-dialer-root-t3678721
You can download the Google dialer APK, make it the "Phone app" provide all the permissions. Works great for me. You can choose the disable the AOSP dialer if you wish.

vijay-in said:
Hello,
Xiaomi Mi A1 came and my brother got one today. I looked into it and was surprised to find that it's an Android One device but missing the signature Google Apps/Features --
Google Phone (Dialer)
This device has com.android.dialer which is AOSP dialer, but even Micromax Canvas A1, the original Android One device has Google Dialer app and gets updated to date.
Google Contacts
Even when Google Contacts app is available to all devices from Play Store since recently, this device comes with AOSP Contacts App, out of my understanding.
Google Camera
This, maybe due to special Camera and lenses feature so justified, but Android One devices were considered Nexus/Pixel cheaper brothers and a variant of Google Camera was expected.
I have disabled AOSP Contacts and have installed Google Contacts, but the same is not possible for Google Phone app and hence it bothers me always. Why an Android One device wouldn't come with Google Phone/Dialer?
Also, there is a "Feedback" app from Xiaomi which can't be disabled. What purpose would it solve?
Why not Stock as it was in past Android One programs? This makes Android One more in control of Xiaomi's than in Google's. I didn't see any review or articles indicating towards this and feel a little cheated.
Thanks.
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Nah, Google thought their first gen android one program wasn't successful. So, they started giving more control over hardware and also software to the OEMs this time. As a result, you can see android one OTA updates are handled by OEMs only, not the Google. That's all I know about.

sachin n said:
Nah, Google thought their first gen android one program wasn't successful. So, they started giving more control over hardware and also software to the OEMs this time. As a result, you can see android one OTA updates are handled by OEMs only, not the Google. That's all I know about.
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Hi Sachin, call it the impression of earlier Android One program or having used Nexus all my time, I feel the Android One's android had to be Google's Android and not the AOSP or Partner Controlled ones. Even their advertising materials say that --
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We’ve partnered with Google to bring you a pure Android phone that stays secure and fresh over time, with your favorite Google services front and center.
I am missing the so called Google Services.
sal-neo said:
I too wondered the same, but, their is workaround.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/app-google-dialer-root-t3678721
You can download the Google dialer APK, make it the "Phone app" provide all the permissions. Works great for me. You can choose the disable the AOSP dialer if you wish.
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I have them already, but it's not that integrated, especially considering Dual SIM scenario. Also, it misses the Google Dialers features of SPAM blocking and Nearby searches.

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vijay-in said:
Hi Sachin, call it the impression of earlier Android One program or having used Nexus all my time, I feel the Android One's android had to be Google's Android and not the AOSP or Partner Controlled ones. Even their advertising materials say that --
I have them already, but it's not that integrated, especially considering Dual SIM scenario. Also, it misses the Google Dialers features of SPAM blocking and Nearby searches.
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True. I would suggest making a post on Xiaomi forums for our Mi A1's and we'll possibly receive a positive response. (Google dialer integrated into Oreo, perhaps)
I'll doing that by EOD.

sal-neo said:
True. I would suggest making a post on Xiaomi forums for our Mi A1's and we'll possibly receive a positive response. (Google dialer integrated into Oreo, perhaps)
I'll doing that by EOD.
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Let's do and see.

chonghua said:
Xiaomi is a Big company than those from Android One 1st and 2nd gen have.
Xiaomi and Google signed a partnership for Android One program, it doesn't owned wholely by Google.
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We all know that, and none of the Android One makers or even Nexus makers were owned by Google. But, I am asking something different if you see.

yes, totally disappointed by what Xiaomi are doing with this device. If they do not fix the problems soon, It will become problem for the company to grow....

good feeling to use xiaomi mi A1
- 5.5 Inches 2.5D Screen, 1920 * 1080 Pixel
- Qualcomm Snapdragon 625 2.0GHz Octa Core
- Supports Touch ID
- 4GB RAM + 64GB ROM, Supports TF Card Up to 128GB
- 12 MP & 12 MP Dual Rear Camera + 5 MP Front Camera
- Android 7.1 system
- 3080mAh Battery, Supports Fast Charge
- Dual SIM: NANO SIM + NANO SIM / TF Card (Other SIM Slot Can Be Used in Combination with a NANO SIM Card or TF Card)
- Network: GSM 850/900/1800 / 1900MHz, WCDMA 850/900/1900 / 2100MHz, FDD-LTE B1 / B3 / B5 / B7 / B8 / B20, Supports 2G & 3G & 4G LTE Network
Mi A1 has design elements in common with other Xiaomi devices, but feels like an elegantly crafted upgrade.
The 5.5-inch LTPS IPS display on the Mi A1 makes for a good design choice with 2.5D curved glass at the top. The Full HD display delivers crisp visuals and excellent contrast, with a pixel density of 403 ppi.
The Mi A1 packs in 64 GB of internal storage which should be enough for most people, though there is a microSD card slot so you can expand its capacity up to another 128 GB.
The Xiaomi Mi A1 brings a dual camera setup to a mid-range smartphone. It’s not the first brand to do this, but it is the first one to offer 2x lossless optical zoom in its segment.
The camera setup includes a 12 MP wide-angle 26mm f/2.2 lens and another 12 MP 50mm f/2.6 telephoto lens, with a dual-tone LED flash.

Mi a1

Need Help with Camera Apps

Hi Guys,
i have some Problems with Zhiyun Play app. At all Android Devices the Framerates about Camera is limitet to 30 Fps.
Zhiyun says there dont have permission to get it. Exist an option to manipulate the Api 3rd Party Issuses ? Some Cam apps has the same Problem.
I dont understand why the manufacturer block other Cam Apps
What must Zhiyun do to get all Stuff working with Samsung Sony and others
King Regards

I believe the reason is sony is using proprietary drivers for camera and third party apps aren't allowed to use these drivers.

can a custom rom modder fix that problem ?

mistaagress said:
can a custom rom modder fix that problem ?
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We need to wait until Sony official announced that the XZ2 will be included into the Sony Open Source Programm.
They are working on that.
But they won't announce it before Qualcomm released the Snapdragon 845 drivers as open source next month.

Help migrate app and app data without root (from Samsung S7 to Xiaomi Mi Note 10)

I have a Galaxy S7 (old phone) and a Xiaomi Mi Note 10 (new phone). Neither of them are rooted. Is there a way I can migrate my apps *and their data/settings* from the S7 to the Mi Note 10 without having to root them?
Things I already tried:
Helium (I purchased Premium). Didn't work. I could backup some (not all) apps from the S7, but it couldn't see the Mi Note 10 at all.
Mi Mover. The official Xiaomi migration app. This exists in the Mi Note 10 (part of official phone settings now). However, Mi Mover no longer exists on Google Play but I found a recent APK on other websites and installed it on the S7. It seemed like it was working, but it kept disconnecting on the S7 and never finishing transferring a single app.
Smart Switch. The official Samsung migration app. Only supports Samsung phones as destination phone ...
All sort of other apps that claimed they can transfer apps, but in fact most were only transferring the apk.
Would be really grateful for a solution that doesn't involve root.

I had migrated from samsung s8+ to xiaomi note 10 with samsungs smart switch it works.
Not rooted one of them.
Yust on note 10 install smart switch from playstore and go

zmdruide said:
I had migrated from samsung s8+ to xiaomi note 10 with samsungs smart switch it works.
Not rooted one of them.
Yust on note 10 install smart switch from playstore and go
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As I said, smart switch only sends to samsung phones. When installed on the Xiaomi it only gives me the option to be sender, not receiver. I'm not sure you are talking about the same software.

mastabog said:
As I said, smart switch only sends to samsung phones. When installed on the Xiaomi it only gives me the option to be sender, not receiver. I'm not sure you are talking about the same software.
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Samsung smart switch is wat i talking about. Old phone is Samsung S8 and new is Xiaomi note 10.
On the Xiaomi i was receiver and they S8 + the Sender. So i don't Knox whats going wrong there on your side. ( Sorry for bad English i am dutch)
Verstuurd vanaf mijn Mi Note 10 met Tapatalk

zmdruide said:
Samsung smart switch is wat i talking about. Old phone is Samsung S8 and new is Xiaomi note 10.
On the Xiaomi i was receiver and they S8 + the Sender. So i don't Knox whats going wrong there on your side. ( Sorry for bad English i am dutch)
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Attached proof screenshot that on Xiaomi Mi Note 10 you can only "Send", you cannot receive. There is no option for receive.

mastabog said:
Attached proof screenshot that on Xiaomi Mi Note 10 you can only "Send", you cannot receive. There is no option for receive.
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Strange i have done it that way......(you must not believe me)
And what if you try to tap "send" on de samsung first and then let him seek to your xiaomi?
I only can say that he have done it for me , don't know why it not wil work to you.

zmdruide said:
Strange i have done it that way......(you must not believe me)
And what if you try to tap "send" on de samsung first and then let him seek to your xiaomi?
I only can say that he have done it for me , don't know why it not wil work to you.
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Seriously, you should try it yourself on your Xiaomi rather than claiming it works . It doesn't. You can't receive on Xiaomi. No point insisting.

I have used mi share a Xiaomi app for the data transfer. On the mi note 10 Is preinstalled and for the s7 you can find it on the PlayStore (the title of the app is in chinese, the app itself Is total translated in english)
This the link for the app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.miui.huanji

mastabog said:
Seriously, you should try it yourself on your Xiaomi rather than claiming it works . It doesn't. You can't receive on Xiaomi. No point insisting.
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so twice you tell me to be a liar.
I did it as said and worked perfectly.
Anyway figure it out I'll stop with help you don't read what I write ..
Migration from samsung s8 + to xiaomi note 10 via samsung smart switch has indeed succeeded in this, as already reported.
Success even further with your search for a "according to you" reliable person.

IO ME MEDESIMO said:
I have used mi share a Xiaomi app for the data transfer. On the mi note 10 Is preinstalled and for the s7 you can find it on the PlayStore (the title of the app is in chinese, the app itself Is total translated in english)
This the link for the app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.miui.huanji
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I avoided that because it was chinese and couldn't understand anything. I don't have it on my Mi Note 10 though (i'm running MIUI 11). It looked as if it's an app for sharing files. Are you saying it can transfer apps AND the app data&settings? That's what I need.
zmdruide said:
I'll stop with help
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Thanks, you're a legend.

mastabog said:
I avoided that because it was chinese and couldn't understand anything. I don't have it on my Mi Note 10 though (i'm running MIUI 11). It looked as if it's an app for sharing files. Are you saying it can transfer apps AND the app data&settings? That's what I need.
Thanks, you're a legend.
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The app mi mover and It can share the settings and the data from the old smartphone ti the new One. On the mi note 10 the app Is preinstalled in settings/system info/mi mover or simply search mi mover in the search bar of the settings .
Mi mover can move the following item from the old to the new phone:
Contacts
Message
Chat Log
PHotos
Music
Videos
EMAIL
Bookmarks
Settings (*support Partial of the Settings)
Third-party APP
Home APPs layout

Mi Mover and ShareMe are different apps. I already mentioned that I tried Mi Mover (see my 1st post).

Mi Mover worked perfectly to transfer everything (messages etc..) from an S10+ to Mi Note 10.

I tried to transfer using google backup under miui 12, but seems google backup can't find backup on my old phone.

Filmic Pro App

Hi everyone, I was reading Huawei community forum and some people are saying that Huawei denied working with developers of Filmic Pro App. I really hope that's not true, because this camera could really use app like this. Does anyone have more info? Also there is info that they are working on Camera2API which will allow instaling this app, so I really don't know what to think.

I am replying to follow this topic, as well. Bought a P40 Pro and don't want to return it and don't want to jailbreak it in order to get Google Play Store just to get Filmic Pro, and it not work to it full capacity.

Latest version modded
Password - FILM

How to live without GMS in MIUI 12.5?

Hello everyone,
I know it has been mentioned in device-specific posts, but I wanted to address this from a wider perspective.
I own a Redmi K40 Gaming phone, for which there are no global ROMs available yet (Hopefully there will be with the Poco re-branding), which comes with MIUI 12.5 out of the box. As you would know, it doesn't support GMS, sames as with other models like Redmi K30 Ultra, Redmi 10X and basically any other MTK high end devices (As announced by Xiaomi).
Personally, I'm OK with surviving without Google. Providing that: 1) I can get the apps I need 2) said apps work "normally".
For point 1) we can always get apps from other sources: Aptoide, APKpure, FDroid, or even here in XDA! You may not find all, and some may depend on GMS themselves, but it is possible.
The problem I have encountered is with #2. Some of said apps doesn't work the same when installed from third-party repositories. And that is what gives me more troubles
One problem is that when I install an app from any other source, the notifications never work properly. I have Facebook open, all permissions are given, I get a notification in another device but it doesnt come here. Same happens with Whatsapp.
Another issue is that some apps, despite installing properly, just don't work. I have tried a few games (Marvel Strike Force, Injustice 2, Real Racer 3) all of them give one or another problem
So, the idea of this thread (If you help me please), is for users without GMS to share what workarounds they have used to survive the Google vs Chinese phones war.
For example, where do you get the apps? What apps sustitutions you have enjoyed? What things you had to do to get the apps to work properly? and so on...
Thanks all for your help!
Cheers

microG Project

jwoegerbauer said:
microG Project
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Thanks @jwoegerbauer I had heard about this project, but never really digged into it.
Question about this "signature spoofing". Does it work with MIUI?
There are still no custom roms for mine, so I can't move to one of the recommended ones.
regards

no solution

So far I've been installing most, if not all, apps through Aurora store. Almost all work properly, but MIUI (Especially in its Chinese version) is a [email protected]#$#@$ with notifications and killing apps in the background.
I think the hardest part is the crazy amount of apps that depend directly of GMS...

Anyone has found a way to increase vibration strenght in MIUI 12.5?

Just wanted to announce that From update 12.5.5.0RKJCNXM. GMS has been able to work. So you can use Google apps!

Rhelvetican said:
Just wanted to announce that From update 12.5.5.0RKJCNXM. GMS has been able to work. So you can use Google apps!
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For all Devices having Xiaomi China ROM? Like including the devices with SD710/Mediatek processors?

Harsh223 said:
For all Devices having Xiaomi China ROM? Like including the devices with SD710/Mediatek processors?
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I'm not sure about it... But Redmi K40 Gaming support gms now