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Huh?!
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Pretty sure he wants to know if the new macbook charger will work. Right now that is the only usb type c to type c charger.
T_VASS said:
Pretty sure he wants to know if the new macbook charger will work. Right now that is the only usb type c to type c charger.
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No, Google sells Type-C to Type-C ones but its out of stock right now
I'm fairly certain Apple's USB-C charger will work fine, but it's $49 without a cable.
Google's offering is cheaper, has two ports, plus a cable so I'd wait for that.
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You want a charger compatible with Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 for the 6P. Quick charge allows charging at 5V, 9V and 12V. The charger will supply the voltage/amperage appropriate for the current charge level of the battery. Most older phone chargers are 5V and will work, but will not quick charge the phone. You can, however, us a Type C to Type C cable and charge your phone from a MacBook Pro Type C connector.
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You want a charger compatible with Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 for the 6P. Quick charge allows charging at 5V, 9V and 12V. The charger will supply the voltage/amperage appropriate for the current charge level of the battery. Most older phone chargers are 5V and will work, but will not quick charge the phone. You can, however, us a Type C to Type C cable and charge your phone from a MacBook Pro Type C connector.
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That's a misnomer for the QC2.0 stuff. The usb-c to usb-c charger is automatically going to work with 5v/3a charging without the need for QC enabled functionality. Actually, there is some debate as to whether or not QC2.0 will even work with this phone if you have a standard usb-a to usb-c connector on a QC2.0 usb-a port.
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That's a misnomer for the QC2.0 stuff. The usb-c to usb-c charger is automatically going to work with 5v/3a charging without the need for QC enabled functionality. Actually, there is some debate as to whether or not QC2.0 will even work with this phone if you have a standard usb-a to usb-c connector on a QC2.0 usb-a port.
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Yes, the Type C to Type C has nothing to do with QuickCharge. It is a USB standard.
However, QC 2.0 works now on dozens of phones with Type A to Type B (Micro USB 2.0) connectors. If you connect it to a PC USB 2.0 connector, you will only get 5V! In fact, I suspect that even my USB 3.0 ports on my Gigabyte P5-USB3 motherboard also only supplies 5V. You must have a charger port set up to supply the higher voltages. If you look at the Wall/Car chargers that are QC2.0 compliant they usually have 1 QC2.0 slot and 1 or more standard slots that will only supply 5V.
Interesting point is the iPhone 6s actually has Qualcom QC 2.0 built in, but not utilized by Apple. The supplied charger with 6s is underpowered and a 6s can be charged much more quickly with a higher amp charger like that for an iPad or Kindle Fire.
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Interesting point is the iPhone 6s actually has Qualcom QC 2.0 built in, but not utilized by Apple. The supplied charger with 6s is underpowered and a 6s can be charged much more quickly with a higher amp charger like that for an iPad or Kindle Fire.
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Isn't quick-charge soc specific, as in only on Qualcomm processors?
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Yes, the Type C to Type C has nothing to do with QuickCharge. It is a USB standard.
However, QC 2.0 works now on dozens of phones with Type A to Type B (Micro USB 2.0) connectors. If you connect it to a PC USB 2.0 connector, you will only get 5V! In fact, I suspect that even my USB 3.0 ports on my Gigabyte P5-USB3 motherboard also only supplies 5V. You must have a charger port set up to supply the higher voltages. If you look at the Wall/Car chargers that are QC2.0 compliant they usually have 1 QC2.0 slot and 1 or more standard slots that will only supply 5V.
Interesting point is the iPhone 6s actually has Qualcom QC 2.0 built in, but not utilized by Apple. The supplied charger with 6s is underpowered and a 6s can be charged much more quickly with a higher amp charger like that for an iPad or Kindle Fire.
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It works but it won't charge above the 5V rating hence no quick charge... Your intentionally stating something that can be misread
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heleos said:
Isn't quick-charge soc specific, as in only on Qualcomm processors?
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It uses Qualcomm power control chip so it cna work with other SOC's like Intel lr Exynos
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It works but it won't charge above the 5V rating hence no quick charge... Your intentionally stating something that can be misread
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It uses Qualcomm power control chip so it cna work with other SOC's like Intel lr Exynos
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Learn something new every day!
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Learn something new every day!
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My Zenfone 2 had QC2 with an intel chip but ASUS called it quick charge with their 'boostmaster' charger but in reality it was just QC 2.0. Samsung calls it adaptive fast charging but its still QC2 etc....the Nexus likely doesn't support QC 2 because it requires a license as another member mentioned which would add to the overall cost
Not sure what you think is misleading, but let me try to clarify:
1. If you have a QC2.0 compliant charger and a QC2.0 compliant device, then QC2.0 will work regardless of the type of connector on the ends of the cable.
2. iPhone 6s has the capability for QC 2.0 built in, but can not do it because it is not utilized. However, you can provide higher amperage to the device at the same voltage than what the standard 6s charger supplies and hence, it will charge faster (not QC 2.0 though).
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It works but it won't charge above the 5V rating hence no quick charge... Your intentionally stating something that can be misread
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It uses Qualcomm power control chip so it cna work with other SOC's like Intel lr Exynos
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Not sure what you think is misleading, but let me try to clarify:
1. If you have a QC2.0 compliant charger and a QC2.0 compliant device, then QC2.0 will work regardless of the type of connector on the ends of the cable.
2. iPhone 6s has the capability for QC 2.0 built in, but can not do it because it is not utilized. However, you can provide higher amperage to the device at the same voltage than what the standard 6s charger supplies and hence, it will charge faster (not QC 2.0 though).
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Understood, but there are plenty of threads debating what the actual volts/amps will be on the phone if you use A-to-C with QC2.0 chargers. According to the spec it is 15W (9V/1.8A or 5V/3A), correct?
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Not sure what you think is misleading, but let me try to clarify:
1. If you have a QC2.0 compliant charger and a QC2.0 compliant device, then QC2.0 will work regardless of the type of connector on the ends of the cable.
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The 6P isn't a QC2.0 compliant device.
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Understood, but there are plenty of threads debating what the actual volts/amps will be on the phone if you use A-to-C with QC2.0 chargers. According to the spec it is 15W (9V/1.8A or 5V/3A), correct?
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It will get the voltage/amps determined by the charger. The 6P is not QC 2.0 CERTIFIED. Google didn't go for the pretty sticker.
From the QC 2.0 FAQ:
Q6: Does it matter what type of charging cable is used with a Quick Charge 2.0 adapter?
A: Quick Charge 2.0 is designed to be connector-independent. Quick Charge 2.0 can be implemented with a variety of formats, including USB Type-A, USB micro, USB Type-C, and other proprietary connectors.
Quick Charge 2.0 high-voltage operation is designed to minimize charging issues associated with long or thin cables, allowing for a superior charging experience, independent of cable type.
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It will get the voltage/amps determined by the charger. The 6P is not QC 2.0 CERTIFIED. Google didn't go for the pretty sticker.
From the QC 2.0 FAQ:
Q6: Does it matter what type of charging cable is used with a Quick Charge 2.0 adapter?
A: Quick Charge 2.0 is designed to be connector-independent. Quick Charge 2.0 can be implemented with a variety of formats, including USB Type-A, USB micro, USB Type-C, and other proprietary connectors.
Quick Charge 2.0 high-voltage operation is designed to minimize charging issues associated with long or thin cables, allowing for a superior charging experience, independent of cable type.
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You're arguing this in two different threads with multiple people trying to educate you on the power PIC controller interface. The chipset can handle the charging, but the actual usb power interface controller won't pass along those signals. It's not like applying a wire and getting charge -- there is a handshake that happens for the correct charging current and voltage to be applied.
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You're arguing this in two different threads with multiple people trying to educate you on the power PIC controller interface. The chipset can handle the charging, but the actual usb power interface controller won't pass along those signals. It's not like applying a wire and getting charge -- there is a handshake that happens for the correct charging current and voltage to be applied.
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Gotcha. The phone will identify the voltage requirement and the charger (assuming intelligent) will supply that voltage at it's rated amps. Actually, the default for all USB is 5V. If the charger does not get the handshake it will default to 5V. So a 5V/3A charger that is capable of multiple voltages will only supply 5V to such a device. Which is what the Google charger supplies. Most chargers will default to 5V and less than 3A however.
I will be interested in testing the Google charger and phone when I get it in my hands. The problem with charging is the change in resistance as the battery charges which is the point in multiple voltages. I like the new USB-Power Delivery setup, but there will be teething problem for early adoption.
Has someone gathered some experience with Mi5 compatible chargers supporting Quick Charge 3.0?
The original chinese charger that came with the 128GB Mi5 version actually has a QC 3 symbol on the back - while I read it supports just 2.0.
My 'dream' charger should have easy switchable power plugs so it can be easily adjusted to the country's power sockets you're staying in. I remember my old HTC phone once came with 3 different, interchangeable plugs out of the box!
I bought this and works perfectly http://goo.gl/vasfAw
You can also use the Aukey Quick Charge 3.0 products.
I got one for my Mi 5 and its full compatible, shows also quick charge when plugged in.
Is there any significance difference b/w stock xiaomi charger?
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Is there any significance difference b/w stock xiaomi charger?
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Well, lets say the stock charger isn't the best build quality if you ask me, or at least it does'nt look very "trustworthy".
I wouldn't use it without fear about fire... so i never used it
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You can also use the Aukey Quick Charge 3.0 products.
I got one for my Mi 5 and its full compatible, shows also quick charge when plugged in.
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which specific aukey charger are you using? what usb cable are you using? and how do you determine whether it is actually quick-charging or not?
thanks in advance - cheers!
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which specific aukey charger are you using? what usb cable are you using? and how do you determine whether it is actually quick-charging or not?
thanks in advance - cheers!
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I'm using the AuKey Quick Charge 3.0 with 2 Ports and a "good" USB A 3.0 highspeed cable with 56k resistor.
If the display is off and you wake it up while its on charger, on the bottom you can see a notice if its quick or slow charging.
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I'm using the AuKey Quick Charge 3.0 with 2 Ports and a "good" USB A 3.0 highspeed cable with 56k resistor.
If the display is off and you wake it up while its on charger, on the bottom you can see a notice if its quick or slow charging.
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thanks for your quick reply!
I guess am using the same charger you mentioned (w/ 2 orange usb type a ports) in combination with the stock usb type a to c cable which was shipped with my MI5. The cable the charger came with was of little use as it is was not a type c cable :/
this notification you are talking of however.. how does it look like? atm I have no clue what I should be looking for to be honest
(I also tried an Anker QC 3.0 charger - performance-wise it was a lot worse than the Aukey charger and therefore went right back to Amazon)
I went for the Tronsmart qc3 for both car and regular. Good quality, just make sure you buy a decent cable along.
killbox said:
I went for the Tronsmart qc3 for both car and regular. Good quality, just make sure you buy a decent cable along.
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do you have gps drops when you connected to car quick charge 3.0 charger?
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Is there any significance difference b/w stock xiaomi charger?
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I think the stock charger isn't a QC 3.0 charger. (And neither is the cable IMO.)
But I am not sure, and not bothered to test. :cyclops:
To those who replied here with tronsmart or aukey QC3 chargers, does it come with a USB type C cable? I cannot find any info about this in google alone. TIA, cheers.
My aukey QC3 charger from amazon Germany came without any cable. I am therefore currently using the stock USB type C cable. I am however not sure whether that cable is 100% compliant and to be honest quite annoyed by all that controversy around the type C standard and QC3 and the incompatibility between both -.-
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Just to have it here:
I am using since March the BlitzWolf QC3.0 charger with a BlitzWolf 3Amps usb type C cable. works fine, charges fast enough.
Well all those chargers charging more faster then the stock one or i worng?
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pletpetplet said:
Well all those chargers charging more faster then the stock one or i worng?
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The "anker qc3" charger I tried was definitely charging slower than the stock charger + travel adapter : )
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Just to have it here:
I am using since March the BlitzWolf QC3.0 charger with a BlitzWolf 3Amps usb type C cable. works fine, charges fast enough.
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Do you mean this one?
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Blit...ger-USB-Adapter-with-Power3S/32604474505.html
I also ordered http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Blit...ta-Micro-USB-Cable-3-0A-Male/32582577078.html
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Do you mean this one?
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Blit...ger-USB-Adapter-with-Power3S/32604474505.html
I also ordered http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Blit...ta-Micro-USB-Cable-3-0A-Male/32582577078.html
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yes this one and maybe the same cable, dunno about the cable.
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Can anyone suggest a good, reputable, certified Qualcomm QC3 charger that has an included USB type-C cable?
I was eyeing on Tronsmart's QC3 1port wall charger, but I found out that it only has the micro-usb cable, and not the Type-C for Mi5.
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Hey Guys
Can anyone suggest a good, reputable, certified Qualcomm QC3 charger that has an included USB type-C cable?
I was eyeing on Tronsmart's QC3 1port wall charger, but I found out that it only has the micro-usb cable, and not the Type-C for Mi5.
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An Aukey is on the way to me with the cable included.
I earlier suggested the BlitzWolf, but BlitzWolf is not really certified for QC3.
This is a list with QC3 charger: https://www.qualcomm.com/documents/quick-charge-device-list
have alook on page 2 of the document.
Awesome! Just know that the new Pixel phones support USB Power Delivery according to Benson:
Both phones support higher voltage (up to 9V), and higher power, up to 18W. In addition, both phones support USB PD's data-role and power-role swaps, meaning they'll work with charge-through hubs.
This 18W USB-C power adapter was designed and made by Google and is the one that ships with the Pixel and the Pixel XL. This is a USB Type-C and USB PD power adapter with support for 5V/3A and 9V/2A.
Source:https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung/posts/GnjQBqAovnD
Google Official 18W USB-C Power Adapter: https://store.google.com/product/usb_type_c_18w_power_adapter
Saw this as well, yet no mention from top tech review videos even like MKBHD which is sad. It's like they ignored some of the fine details of this phone.
I want to know how much faster it will charge because of supporting 18W with PD, and if there are any car chargers out yet that support PD as well.
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Saw this as well, yet no mention from top tech review videos even like MKBHD which is sad. It's like they ignored some of the fine details of this phone.
I want to know how much faster it will charge because of supporting 18W with PD, and if there are any car chargers out yet that support PD as well.
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There is a Belkin car charger on Google's store that does
https://store.google.com/product/belkin_27w_usb_c_car_charger
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I had been looking for a USB-C PD rated car charger, but the best I could come up with was [email protected] chargers USB-C car chargers. Here is the same Belkin USB-C PD charger on the Belkin website with more details. http://www.belkin.com/us/F7U004-Belkin/p/P-F7U004;jsessionid=748D45E194350FE38B12294242BDD616/
I ordered the Belkin car charger on Verizon's site today, it was listed for $40, and i get 25% off with my corporate discount so it was down to $30! Felt good not to spend the $45 Google was asking...
I also ordered the Pluggable usb-c pd charging hub suggested by Bensen so i can charge while using my usb DAC!
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Awesome! Just know that the new Pixel phones support USB Power Delivery according to Benson:
This is a USB Type-C and USB PD power adapter with support for 5V/3A and 9V/2A.
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you know who else supports those numbers? Qualcomm....
QC3 chargers will probably work. QC3 rapid charges my Pixel C at 5v3a
I'll be using Ankers 60w 5 port hub with USB C PD very soon. Should be able to feed the Pixel at full 18W as it claims to be able to charge Mac Books at 29W over C.
I'll try Choetech 29W PD USB C charger, $25.99.
https://www.amazon.com/Charger-CHOE...06398&sr=8-1&keywords=choetech+29W+PD+charger
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you know who else supports those numbers? Qualcomm....
QC3 chargers will probably work. QC3 rapid charges my Pixel C at 5v3a
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Yeah, maybe, but i wanted to be sure my "usb-c pd" hub3p usb A ports would work for data and charging at the same time the phone charges. As i understand it, usb-c pd is the open standard supported on devices beyond phones vs Qualcom's Quick Charge 3 being proprietary.
Fwiw, 27W = 9V × 3A max charging on the Belkin pd car charger which means it has more power than the pixel might need so other usb hub devices can use that power.
This hub... http://plugable.com/products/usbc-hub3p
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Also, it's worth reading some of these comments if USB-C PD is unfamiliar like it was to me.
https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung/posts/71FgNerD8TB
tmuka said:
Yeah, maybe, but i wanted to be sure my "usb-c pd" hub3p usb A ports would work for data and charging at the same time the phone charges. As i understand it, usb-c pd is the open standard supported on devices beyond phones vs Qualcom's Quick Charge 3 being proprietary.
Fwiw, 27W = 9V × 3A max charging on the Belkin pd car charger which means it has more power than the pixel might need so other usb hub devices can use that power.
This hub... http://plugable.com/products/usbc-hub3p
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Also, it's worth reading some of these comments if USB-C PD is unfamiliar like it was to me.
https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung/posts/71FgNerD8TB
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Yea QC3 seems to max out at 18 watts, not great for hubs or bigger devices. However it does have its benefits:
QC3 support rapid charging via a USB A to USB C connection. You can plug your phone into a >1 year computer, and charge it with the same cable. It supports both 15watt and 18watt charging (5v3a, 9v2a)
Generally cheaper than USB PD options, despite being the "proprietary" connection.
Aukey has their basic QC3 for $8.50 with a coupon.
My argument is that USB PD devices are actually BETTER, since seemingly they can support both QC3 and the native option at lower wattages
*its also worth noting that inversely, USB PD charger that came with the pixel C DID NOT rapid charge my QC3 HTC 10. Despite supporting 15 watts at 5v3a. It could just be that my phone isnt able to draw a full 18 watts from the charger and wont classify it as "rapid charge," but it is still charging at 15 watts. Now that new USB PD chargers can achieve 9v2a, i will test again, but so far it looks to be one sided
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*its also worth noting that inversely, USB PD charger that came with the pixel C DID NOT rapid charge my QC3 HTC 10. Despite supporting 15 watts at 5v3a.
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This is the charger that came with my Pixel C; if this is also the one you have, then it doesn't do USB-PD (nor QC) at all. It only does standard USB Type-C.
The conservative recommendation seems to be that QC doesn't work (and shouldn't be attempted) on the Pixel phone at all.
The 18watt factory charger is available to pre order now on the Google store. I got two because I'm done trying to figure out if this charger works vs that charger.
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Would this charger work for Pixel XL USB PD charging? https://www.amazon.com/iKits-Charge...76378215&sr=1-6&keywords=usb+c+power+delivery
I am thinking of this for car charging. It says it is 3v/5a and usb pd compatible.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DVX6PZ6/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AMQXW69G0078
I will try this
24W Quick Charge 3.0, iClever BoostCube Qualcomm Certified QC 3.0 USB Wall Charger (Quick Charge 2.0 Compatible) for Galaxy S7/S6/Edge/Plus, Note 5/4, LG G5 V10, HTC 10 and More https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01H17OUGO/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_jwmaybN1YXDP8
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DinarQ8 said:
I will try this
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iClever BoostCube
...https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01H17OUGO/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_jwmaybN1YXDP8
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That just sounds dangerous(ly off-brand)
flindaman said:
That just sounds dangerous(ly off-brand)
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already Google sell belkin 27W car charger and Universal 22.5W Dual Port USB Type-C Charger so i think it is good
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Type C Car Charger,Yootech 42W Car Charger (3-Port) with Type C ,Quick Charge 2.0, Standard USB Port,for LG G5,Nexus 5X/6P,HTC 10 and Other Device[Include Type C and Micro USB Cable]
https://www.amazon.com/Charger-Yootech-3-Port-Standard-Include/dp/B01ENOWTT8
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Anyone have one of these or others recommended?
https://www.amazon.com/Charger-Maxboost-Technology-Charging-Nokia-TC/dp/B01A7RB1XU
Type C Car Charger, Maxboost 35W w/ Quick Charge 2.0 Technology+Built-in Type-C (3.1) USB C Adapter Charging Cable for Google Pixel XL,Nexus 5X 6P,MacBook 12" iPhone,Galaxy S7 S6/Note 5,Nokia-TC Black
I dont see it listed in this spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...x9dMDWqENiY2kgBJUu29f_TX8/edit#gid=1288176877
clockcycle said:
Type C Car Charger,Yootech 42W Car Charger (3-Port) with Type C ,Quick Charge 2.0, Standard USB Port,for LG G5,Nexus 5X/6P,HTC 10 and Other Device[Include Type C and Micro USB Cable]
https://www.amazon.com/Charger-Yootech-3-Port-Standard-Include/dp/B01ENOWTT8
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Anyone have one of these or others recommended?
https://www.amazon.com/Charger-Maxboost-Technology-Charging-Nokia-TC/dp/B01A7RB1XU
Type C Car Charger, Maxboost 35W w/ Quick Charge 2.0 Technology+Built-in Type-C (3.1) USB C Adapter Charging Cable for Google Pixel XL,Nexus 5X 6P,MacBook 12" iPhone,Galaxy S7 S6/Note 5,Nokia-TC Black
I dont see it listed in this spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...x9dMDWqENiY2kgBJUu29f_TX8/edit#gid=1288176877
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Those are not USB-PD.
I have a few of these and they fast charge and are cheap. I've used a number of items from Choetch and most are very reliable.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B017I7EX46/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I was a Note 7 refugee so I have the stock Samsung fast AC charger here. Model EP-TA20JWE rated at 9v @ 1.67A and 5v @ 2A. It's in my kitchen.
I have the original AC charger that came with the Pixel XL. Model TC G1000-US rated at 9v @ 2.0A and 5v @ 0.5A I have only used once to get this information.
I also have a mobile charger in my car. It is labeled as Qualcomm QC 3.0 certified which is why I bought it as the Note 7 was a QC 3.0 device. It is a Choetech Model C0051 rated at 9.1v~12v @ 1.5A Max, 5.6v~9v @ 2A Max, and 3.6v~5.5v @ 2.4A Max (the iFixit teardown has revealed a Qualcomm QC 3.0 IC in the Pixel)
Additionally I have a charger by the bed which is from my Nexus 6, Motorola "Turbo Charger" Model SSW-2680US rated at 5v @ 1.6A, 9v @ 1.6A, and 12v @ 1.2A.
All of the chargers are using their original CABLE (USBA to USBC except in the case of the Pixel which is USBC to USBC) included EXCEPT the Motorola Turbo Charger, which is using a 6 foot long braided USBA to Micro USB cable with the Micro USB to USBC adapter that came with the Note 7.
What I found so far was all three work well and all three are recognized by the phone as a rapid charger.
I also found that at 60% charge and plugging in each one long enough for the lock screen to give me the "rapid charging XX minutes until full" message, the Samsung EP-TA20JWE fast charger charges it faster than the Google TC G1000US or the Choetech C0051. The Google and Choetech appear to charge at the same rate based on time until full. The Motorola Turbo Charger charges at an extremely fast rate, like it took it from 58% to 77% in maybe 5-10 minutes and was saying 15 minutes to full at 77%.
My battery life is phenomenal for me at 5-6 hours SOT, I have no issues with any of these chargers, they all see charging time every day. Turbo charger overnight, Samsung Note 7 charger when in the kitchen where I am a lot, mobile charger when driving to work or classes... (except the actual Pixel charger which I haven't found a use for yet but will probably go to work with me.
*Based on my findings I am going to put the Samsung Note 7 charger in the kitchen and the slowest Pixel charger in the bedroom and take the fastest Turbo charger to work.
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I know my test method isn't to some people's satisfaction but the time to full calculation is based on how much the phone is charged now (which I kept within +/- 2% for each check) and how much current the device wants to draw from what's available. What's interesting is the device draws power much quicker than the Pixel charger supplies it when it is plugged into more capable chargers.
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Good information. It's nice to knows that all the accessories I got for my note won't go to waste lol.
Thank you.
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I have been having varying experiences.
My Anker QC 3.0 type C wall charger seems to charge rapidly, although at the 5V/3A only, with a 6.6ft USB 2.0 i-orange cable. Using a 3.3ft USB 3.0 cable, it shows charging rapidly when I first plug it in, but a few minutes later only shows charging.. but seems to be charging rapidly? My Tronsmart type C w/ QC 3.0 car charger, using an Anker Powerline+ type C cable, shows charging rapidly, but said it had 1+ hour until full when at 70%... Ampere only showed 1.6A being sent to the phone too. I tried an iVoler charger with type C and QC 3.0 and got up to 2050mAh, but it was likely only 5V (which I would expect) but still didn't seem to be charging all that fast.
I think this whole USB-PD thing is going to really be dependent on proper chargers and cables. All of these chargers/cables worked perfect on my Nexus 6P - doesn't seem to be the case on the Pixel.
Thanks for the experience folks. I had purchased a qc 3.0 tronsmart on sale at amazon which I was going to return. I got usb c cables with pd from monoprice. I suppose even if it doesn't fast charge at 18w (9v X 2a), I'd be ok with 15 w charging if I don't have to go out and buy a new car charger.
I mean faster is nice but if it still charges at a good rate, the lower current might help the battery last longer too right?
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Thanks for the experience folks. I had purchased a qc 3.0 tronsmart on sale at amazon which I was going to return. I got usb c cables with pd from monoprice. I suppose even if it doesn't fast charge at 18w (9v X 2a), I'd be ok with 15 w charging if I don't have to go out and buy a new car charger.
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I have bad news for you. I have a Tronsmart QC 3.0 type C charger too - one from a year ago though, don't know if the design has changed - and it is NOT rapid charging my device. It worked perfect on my Nexus 6P. It will start out by saying "charging rapidly" on the Pixel XL, but after several minutes, goes down to "charging" and the charge time is 2+ hours, Ampere shows really low current, etc. It COULD be the Anker Powerline+ type C cable I am using... but I highly doubt it. I think the fact that the type C port has QC 3.0 is not playing nice with the USB-PD chip, and causing it to drop support for 5V/3A all together. I will test this more tonight with the stock cable and see if it works any better.
Did some testing: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69309771&postcount=30
Man I totally forgot about my Motorola Turbo chargers I got from Groupon. I wish I could find my @zerolemon charger too.. Ill test them with my USB USB Doctor dongles.. When I find them... lol
psa; cables make a huge difference in my experience.
I also have a tronsmart qc2 1 + 3 fast port car charger Ill test and post results.
Perhaps not the right thread but I have just been sent these USB-C cables to review for free.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B01EEACOVO/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Amazon says they are rated to 2.4A but will they damage by Pixel XL? I'm not expecting them to charge 'rapidly' but would be handy to be able to use them with an older 2A charger.
Do you think they are safe?
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Why do so many people try to get a charger with as high a wattage rating as possible but ignore the fact that USB-C is limited to 3A and all you need to do is find a charger capable of delivering 3A.
What does wattage have to do with things?
Not trying to be a jerk, I'm just assuming I must be missing something here.
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Why do so many people try to get a charger with as high a wattage rating as possible but ignore the fact that USB-C is limited to 3A and all you need to do is find a charger capable of delivering 3A.
What does wattage have to do with things?
Not trying to be a jerk, I'm just assuming I must be missing something here.
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Because more watts = more power. USB-C may be limited to 3A, but it is not limited to 5V. Higher volts at the same amperage = more wattage = more power. If you want the fastest charging possible, you need a 9V/2A+ USB-PD charger.
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it is not limited to 5V.
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I didn't realize it was OK to go with higher than 5v now.
Do you know if it's okay to hard wire directly into a 12V system for charging? Like in the car? I'm guessing "no it's not okay" but I'm still learning about USB-C.
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tap = hard wire/splice into. As in, no adapter. Just a USB-C at one end and then snip the connector off the other end and use the two power wires and two ground wires to splice directly into say, the back of a cigarette charger's 12V wiring.
CZ Eddie said:
I didn't realize it was OK to go with higher than 5v now.
Do you know if it's okay to hard wire directly into a 12V system for charging? Like in the car? I'm guessing "no it's not okay" but I'm still learning about USB-C.
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tap = hard wire/splice into. As in, no adapter. Just a USB-C at one end and then snip the connector off the other end and use the two power wires and two ground wires to splice directly into say, the back of a cigarette charger's 12V wiring.
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There is no way that would work, nor would it be safe. There HAS to be an adapter to safely charge the phone by regulating voltage and current, as well as shutting off the charge once it hits 100%.
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There is no way that would work, nor would it be safe. There HAS to be an adapter to safely charge the phone by regulating voltage and current, as well as shutting off the charge once it hits 100%.
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It's my understanding that some/all of the regulating is done on-board some phones.
I know I never had any issues with my 3A 12v to 5v converter hard wired to S4 and Note 3 phones for charging in either my car or Motorcycle.
At least, I didn't notice any issues.
CZ Eddie said:
It's my understanding that some/all of the regulating is done on-board some phones.
I know I never had any issues with my 3A 12v to 5v converter hard wired to S4 and Note 3 phones for charging in either my car or Motorcycle.
At least, I didn't notice any issues.
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Well you're a brave soul. I wouldn't ever think to try something like that. Especially not with USB-C & Power Delivery now. The phone is responsible for some of the charging regulation, but the charger itself is just as important.
CZ Eddie said:
Why do so many people try to get a charger with as high a wattage rating as possible but ignore the fact that USB-C is limited to 3A and all you need to do is find a charger capable of delivering 3A.
What does wattage have to do with things?
Not trying to be a jerk, I'm just assuming I must be missing something here.
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Because with USB PD the Pixel can charge at 18W by using 2A by 9V. So just looking for a 3A charger doesn't give you the fastest possible charging for the Pixel. Using a standard 3A charger will charge it at 3A by 5V for 15W. You multiply the voltage and amperage to determine wattage.
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I have an aukey car charger and my pixel phone rapid charges when I use the QC 3.0 port, but not the USB c port.
Anyone try the other Motorola turbo chargers 15, 25, 30? Id be curious to know if they work any better. They say the phone must support "turbo"..
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I didn't realize it was OK to go with higher than 5v now.
Do you know if it's okay to hard wire directly into a 12V system for charging? Like in the car? I'm guessing "no it's not okay" but I'm still learning about USB-C.
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tap = hard wire/splice into. As in, no adapter. Just a USB-C at one end and then snip the connector off the other end and use the two power wires and two ground wires to splice directly into say, the back of a cigarette charger's 12V wiring.
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No definitely not. Car Battery supplies too much wattage/amerpage and its missing the PD ic and other protections in most good charger (over volt, under volt, circuit protection, trickle, power cut off, ect). Thats why all this talk about chargers and cables that do not meet requirements burning equipment/phones up.
It will never know when to stop charging or if over charging and catch fire...
Thats why its not advisable to buy cheap no name unbranded batteries, cables and chargers.
Usb c isnt just a connector/ plug theres an ic (computer chip) in control as well on both sides.
The chip in your battery talks w the one in the phone that talks w the one in the charger..
Has anyone used this yet? Thoughts? It appears to be a new model.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LGO9LE4/
Was gonna pick one up when they drop 10 bucks or go on sale. Looks perfect though and half the price of the belkin.
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I would wait to see if Benson reviews it, awful lot of stuff out there that operates out of spec.
I agree. Unless you absolutely need one right now, I'd wait until they review more stuff or just pony up $40 for the Belkin... WAY too much variation in how these manufacturers are producing USB-C chargers.
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I agree. Unless you absolutely need one right now, I'd wait until they review more stuff or just pony up $40 for the Belkin... WAY too much variation in how these manufacturers are producing USB-C chargers.
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I agree. I was totally in the dark until I started following Benson and Nathan. Especially with Aukey, I don't think I'll risk it. Plus it's only a 15w.
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I agree. I was totally in the dark until I started following Benson and Nathan. Especially with Aukey, I don't think I'll risk it. Plus it's only a 15w.
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The quoted charger is actually over 18W, so it will charge the Pixel at full speed. I'd like to buy one because it's the only option, but... my 15W standard type C charger will hold me over for now.
bought 2 of these bad boys today. its 24w and quickcharge 3.0, also it comes with a 3ft usb type c charge cable for 12.99!
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KCAJ1HK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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bought 2 of these bad boys today. its 24w and quickcharge 3.0, also it comes with a 3ft usb type c charge cable for 12.99!
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KCAJ1HK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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It's USB A though....
myboyblake said:
It's USB A though....
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Yea it's USB A to USB C, IV had other USB C to USB C and there is no difference in charging speed for one, for two this is a good inexpensive option that comes with a USB A to USB C cable
I bought this charger along with a Black Squid Type-C to Type-C cable and it shows "charging rapidly" for me.
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Was gonna pick one up when they drop 10 bucks or go on sale. Looks perfect though and half the price of the belkin.
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It is half the price but it doesn't include a USB c cable. The Belkin does. Just something to keep in mind.
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I bought this charger and it's working great. Using the USB a-c cable that was bundled with the Pixel.
My last car charger was a very similar, low profile Aukey one with QC 2.0 and I never had any issues with it either.
This is the one I use. Fast charges both my Nexus 6p and Pixel XL. I think it was mentioned by Benson to be good also.
https://www.amazon.com/charger-Nekteck-Charger-Adapter-Integrated/dp/B0172QQNBY
Tronsmart always has a rebadge version of what Aukey has or vice versa, anyone try this one?
https://www.amazon.com/Tronsmart-Charger-Delivery-MacBook-Tablet/dp/B01MRGTZZD
I bought one of these a few weeks ago but haven't used it yet.. Was waiting to get thumbsup from Benson first.
Looks like Nathan K on G+ has started testing it, looks iffy..
https://plus.google.com/102612254593917101378/posts/C6iWFDfSGt4?sfc=true
Pheno.menon said:
I bought this charger and it's working great. Using the USB a-c cable that was bundled with the Pixel.
My last car charger was a very similar, low profile Aukey one with QC 2.0 and I never had any issues with it either.
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Uh... the Power Delivery charging is ONLY through the USB Type C port... charging via USB A does absolutely nothing for you.
jscharf10 said:
bought 2 of these bad boys today. its 24w and quickcharge 3.0, also it comes with a 3ft usb type c charge cable for 12.99!
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KCAJ1HK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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The Pixel does not support Quick Charge. Don't know what you will get from USB-A to USB-C.
Good setup is 5V/3A = 15W from a good USB-C charger and cable.
Best setup is 9V/2A = 18W from a good USB-C PD charger and cable
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The Pixel does not support Quick Charge. Don't know what you will get from USB-A to USB-C.
Good setup is 5V/3A = 15W from a good USB-C charger and cable.
Best setup is 9V/2A = 18W from a good USB-C PD charger and cable
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All I'm saying is these chargers are 24w / 3A , and when I plug in my pixel it tells me rapidly charging. I can get a full charge in the same amount of time as my charger I received with my pixel phone, or the Belkin USB type c charger I have , just trying to save you guys some money. As for reliability I had a 6p when they first came out and the battery and phone are still good in that an I have always used that charger. Hope this helps!
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The Pixel does not support Quick Charge. Don't know what you will get from USB-A to USB-C.
Good setup is 5V/3A = 15W from a good USB-C charger and cable.
Best setup is 9V/2A = 18W from a good USB-C PD charger and cable
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Although the Snapdragon 821 is capable of Quick Charge 3.0 for the Pixel, it looks like Google has elected to use the USB-C Power Delivery standard. I just looked up a bunch of very confusing technical stuff, but the big advantage of PD is use of the data connection within USB-C while charging. ( like from a computer ). I don't think there is very much difference in the rate of charging with PD vs Quick Charge. Rest assured, the Pixels will charge VERY quickly.
I'm on my way to work but this should sum it up, all sd821 are quick charge 3.0 capable, like I said this charger is 24w/3a an you won't be using the USB PD features while charging in your car anyway.
jscharf10 said:
bought 2 of these bad boys today. its 24w and quickcharge 3.0, also it comes with a 3ft usb type c charge cable for 12.99!
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KCAJ1HK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1]
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That's a standard 5v 2.4A charger according to it's specs, at max you'll get 12w decent charge albeit not "max" but who cares, since the Pixel doesn't support qc. Using it with the stock pixel a to c cable should be safe, I wouldn't use an untested cable tho and risk frying the Pixel.
The blitzwolf usb-c +a car charger, non qc, is only $5 delivered on Banggoods on sale, comes usb-c cabled and has usb a slot. I use it and get a good safe charge from it.
The visnic has been tested to work well, only $10 but you need a cable too.