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[Review 11/22] Ravpower 20100mah Type-C/QC2.0 External Battery Pack

Ravpower 20100mah Type-C & QC 2.0 Battery Pack
Overview: The Ravpower battery pack is supposedly the first USB Type-C battery pack out there. It charges the 6P using the USB Type-C standard of 5V/3A which is great because it’s the first true Type-C charger and battery out there not made by Google from what I have seen. I will compare the battery to the other ones I own which are just the regular QC2.0 standard and made by Aukey.
Ports/Charging:
The Ravpower features 4 total ports, now before you get carried away with the infinite possibilities of this I will first talk about what they offer.
Ports Comparison
Input Charging Ports:
There are 2 ports that can be used to charge the battery. The first is the conventional Micro-USB port. This port will allow you to have the battery with up to 24W, and is a good backup if you don’t want to charge it via USB Type-C. The next way the battery can be charged is via USB Type-C at 5V/3A (15W) which is slower than using a QC2.0 24W+ charger. I know there aren’t many 24W capable QC2.0 chargers but I have a 30W one made by Power Partners and it charges the battery a lot faster than my Type-C cable does.
Here is breakdown of the voltages/rates the battery can be charged at:
Output Charging Ports:
Type-C
The battery can charge up to 3 devices at once with its 3 output charging ports. The first and most relevant of these would be the USB Type-C port. It will charge the Nexus 6P/5X rapidly just as the wall charger would. I’ve had the battery for about 3 days now and it has been great! The USB Type-C port is reversible in terms of charging for this battery pack. The port can take 5V/3A and output the same 5V/3A to a phone so it cuts down on how many ports the battery needs.
USB Type-A QC2.0
This port features Qualcomm’s quick charge 2.0 standard and will quick charge any compatible devices at one of 3 voltages. The port can also charge the Nexus 6P/5X using a in spec Type-A to Type-C cable as you might expect. I have the iOrange cable and it will give me 1.5A as it should by the USB standard. I like the availability of a Type-A port because I can charge other devices from it while on the go.
USB Type-A iSmart Port
This is your standard 5V 2.4A USB Type-A port. There is nothing special about it in my opinion and they could have left this one out since the QC2.0 port also supports 5V/2.4A. It’s still there if you wanted to use it so I will leave it at that.
Here is a table of the output voltage and rates:
Battery I/O Rating Pictures
Design/Build Quality:
The design of the battery is nothing special, it’s a simple rectangle just like it should be. There is no reason to over design the appearance of an external battery as long as it gets the job done. I don’t mean this in a bad way at all because I like the simple design of it. There are 4 blue LED dots that indicate the battery level and they aren’t overly bright if you use it at night. There is a small button under the LED lights to turn the battery pack on or see its current battery level.
Let me get this out of the way: the battery is HUGE and might as well be a brick making up some old building in Philadelphia. With that being said the battery is solid but not too heavy overall. The battery is made with a plastic construction, but Ravpower does offer a 12 month warranty on it. I didn’t look to see what it covered, but I assume it should cover the standard defects but likely not physical damage. According to Ravpower these are the dimensions of the battery pack:
Here is a comparison between the 3 battery packs I currently have. (Aukey 10000mah Silver, Aukey 12000mah Black, Ravpower 20100mah Black)
Status Lights for each battery pack
What’s in the Box:
The battery comes with a mesh pouch to put it in while you are traveling about, but it has no extra pockets for anything else. There are also 2 micro USB cables included with the battery that can be used to charge the battery or a compatible phone. The flat style cables are nice and should be tangle free. I used one to charge my Bose QC20 (2015) headphones and didn’t have any issues. I would test them on another device, but I no longer have micro USB phones/tablets.
Dimensions
Overall 9.8/10
I’m enjoying the battery pack a lot and I think it’s worth the price right now. $47.99 isn’t bad for a 20100mah battery considering I have 2 Aukey ones (12500mah, 10400mah QC2.0 battery packs). The battery is big, but it has more than enough capacity to keep your phone/tablet alive for a few days at a minimum.
Here is a table comparing the Ravpower to the Google 22.5W Dual port Type C charger with different cables, I also tested my in spec Type A-C Cable using a 5V/4A charger

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So I would still need to get another C to C cable to charge my phone quickly, or use the included A to C at a lower speed?

fury683 said:
So I would still need to get another C to C cable to charge my phone quickly, or use the included A to C at a lower speed?
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You cna use the C-C cable that comes with your phone to rapid charge your phone. Any USB A-C cables are limited to 1.5A by design so it won't rapid charge with a Type A that is inspec. Out of spec ones might but its not worth the risk

Pilz said:
You cna use the C-C cable that comes with your phone to rapid charge your phone. Any USB A-C cables are limited to 1.5A by design so it won't rapid charge with a Type A that is inspec. Out of spec ones might but its not worth the risk
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Right, I just meant that if I wanted to keep this in my work bag or in my car, I would need another C to C cable, because the one that came with my phone would stay at home with the charger. Thanks for the review, I added it to my Amazon Wish List.

dammit pilz.....
ordered...

fury683 said:
Right, I just meant that if I wanted to keep this in my work bag or in my car, I would need another C to C cable, because the one that came with my phone would stay at home with the charger. Thanks for the review, I added it to my Amazon Wish List.
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Yes you need a C-C cable to rapid charge at the 5V/3A but you can charge slower with a Type-A to Type-C which will give you 5V/1.5A. The monoprice C-C USB 2.0 cable is inspec according to Benson so I would get that one. It's ~$13 I believe.
dadoc04 said:
dammit pilz.....
ordered...
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Let me know how it is. I try to write honest reviews since I do this for fun to help people out.

Pilz said:
Yes you need a C-C cable to rapid charge at the 5V/3A but you can charge slower with a Type-C to Type-C which will give you 5V/1.5A. The monoprice C-C USB 2.0 cable is inspec according to Benson so I would get that one. It's ~$13 I believe.
Let me know how it is. I try to write honest reviews since I do this for fun to help people out.
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That was a typo, right?

TheInVisibleGoD said:
That was a typo, right?
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No their 3ft USB 2.0 spec one was that much unless I'm thinking of another company.
Edit: the 6ft USB 2.0 spec C-C is $12.99
http://www.monoprice.com/mobile/pro...categoryid=10303&subcategoryid=1030319&cpncd=

I have this same charger. 70% off my town has been with out power for the past 3 days (including my house) and this thing saved me a few times already. I can fully charge my phone almost 6 times on 1 charge. It may be big but it charges fast and many times. I dig it

Just bought one today via Amazon with same day shipping! Question - can I charge my phone via USB A-C cable and simultaneously charge the battery with the C-C cable?

Cares said:
Just bought one today via Amazon with same day shipping! Question - can I charge my phone via USB A-C cable and simultaneously charge the battery with the C-C cable?
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I haven't tried but it might work. I know most batteries support I/O at the same time.
I will add the rest of the pictures tomorrow. Its been a very busy day so I haven't had a chance to take the other pictures

boynamedstacy said:
I have this same charger. 70% off my town has been with out power for the past 3 days (including my house) and this thing saved me a few times already. I can fully charge my phone almost 6 times on 1 charge. It may be big but it charges fast and many times. I dig it
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I've used it to charge my phone for the past 3 days just to test it. If has 2 dots left (~50% or less) which is good. The battery may but be metal or asthetically great but it gets the job done

OP updated with more pictures, tables, etc.

Pilz said:
No their 3ft USB 2.0 spec one was that much unless I'm thinking of another company.
Edit: the 6ft USB 2.0 spec C-C is $12.99
http://www.monoprice.com/mobile/pro...categoryid=10303&subcategoryid=1030319&cpncd=
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No, I'm saying about a C-C and a Type-C to Type-C cable, aren't they the same cable?

TheInVisibleGoD said:
No, I'm saying about a C-C and a Type-C to Type-C cable, aren't they the same cable?
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Yes you're absolutely correct that should have said A-C for the second part. I mistakenly thought you were referring to the monoprice cable cost I'll be sure to fix that thank you!
Edit: I corrected that typo from earlier thanks for clarifying that for me

Pilz said:
Yes you're absolutely correct that should have said A-C for the second part. I mistakenly thought you were referring to the monoprice cable cost I'll be sure to fix that thank you!
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No worries mate, I must say that I was confused as well...

TheInVisibleGoD said:
No worries mate, I must say that I was confused as well...
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I'm glad you let me know so I could fix it. Now I'll have to see how the battery holds up on my trip

Pilz good call... mine came about an hour ago... this is dope!

dadoc04 said:
Pilz good call... mine came about an hour ago... this is dope!
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I've been enjoying mine lately plus its capacity/size arent bad for what it is. I'll see how TSA likes it in my carry on because they are always stupid

Any way for USB-C charger and CC cable to get approved?

I'm looking for a USB-C plug for my Nexus 6P. There are so few on the market and I would like to try one.
http://www.amazon.com/Charging-Qualcomm-Certified-Supported-included/dp/B017I7EX46/
Anybody tried this charger and cc cable? Reviews say it works pretty well, but is there any tool like CheckR to test and approve the usb-c plug and cable? This might be important to note, due to the whole fiasco with the cables which would damage the phone/charger due to incorrect build. Benson Leung only tests AC cables as far as I know.

While there is the potential for a USB C charger and cable to not be powerful enough to meet the 3amp charging spec, a type C to C cable is unlikely to fail to be compliant in the same way as the A to C cables are.
The A to C cables were mostly non compliant as they were being identified as being compatible with the USB C spec and thus being able to supply 3amps of power, whereas in reality cables/chargers with type A connectors max out at 2.4 amps or in most cases a lot less.

A-C cables required a 56K resistor, but most companies initially used a 10K one which was the issue. C-C cables don't need a resistor the way that the A-C ones do,so they should all be compliant from what I understand.

Azarin said:
While there is the potential for a USB C charger and cable to not be powerful enough to meet the 3amp charging spec, a type C to C cable is unlikely to fail to be compliant in the same way as the A to C cables are.
The A to C cables were mostly non compliant as they were being identified as being compatible with the USB C spec and thus being able to supply 3amps of power, whereas in reality cables/chargers with type A connectors max out at 2.4 amps or in most cases a lot less.
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I have been looking at the end chotech charger on amazon for 2 days now trying to figure out if it's OK or not since it's not on the Benson list of approved chargers.
Are you saying that if you get a charger like the one in the original posters link that has a USB c port you'll be fine because there is no USB A cable in the equation?
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

jimmiekain said:
I have been looking at the end chotech charger on amazon for 2 days now trying to figure out if it's OK or not since it's not on the Benson list of approved chargers.
Are you saying that if you get a charger like the one in the original posters link that has a USB c port you'll be fine because there is no USB A cable in the equation?
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
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It should be fine as long as it only supports 5V/3(like the Choetech does) and not a different quick charging method like QC 2.0/3.0.

Pilz said:
It should be fine as long as it only supports 5V/3(like the Choetech does) and not a different quick charging method like QC 2.0/3.0.
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Sounds great I'm ordering it right now.
One more question, I found a C 2 C cable and it's 3Meters long. Does the length of the cable matter?
Here's the one I'm looking at https://goo.gl/photos/jEYvVABFZFPy2B2g9
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

Pilz said:
It should be fine as long as it only supports 5V/3(like the Choetech does) and not a different quick charging method like QC 2.0/3.0.
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Even if it supports Qualcomm's QuickCharge, isn't part of the QC spec that there's a chip inside the charger to identify QC-capable devices and otherwise act as a 'normal' charger?
I would think so long as it supports 5V/3A you would be fine no matter what other standard it supports.

Here's a link to a google doc that details cables and charges that have been tested. It says if the item is compliant or not.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wJwqv3rTNmORXz-XJsQaXK1dl8I91V4-eP_sfNVNzbA/edit#gid=0

jimmiekain said:
Sounds great I'm ordering it right now.
One more question, I found a C 2 C cable and it's 3Meters long. Does the length of the cable matter?
Here's the one I'm looking at https://goo.gl/photos/jEYvVABFZFPy2B2g9
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
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I don't see an issue, but keep in mine that longer cables could have a current drop due to increased resistance over the length. It shouldn't be a huge amount so I wouldn't worry about it. I use the Google 6ft C-C cable and get the full 3A when my battery is below 40%.
jhoff80 said:
Even if it supports Qualcomm's QuickCharge, isn't part of the QC spec that there's a chip inside the charger to identify QC-capable devices and otherwise act as a 'normal' charger?
I would think so long as it supports 5V/3A you would be fine no matter what other standard it supports.
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That's correct, but I don't want to fully recommend something that could cause an issue. I have a charger with QC 3.0 over the Type-C port and I have 0 issues using it. It still violates the USB standard to have QC 2.0/3.0 over a Type-C port, but that doesn't mean it won't work. It works, but could potentially cause an issue at some point. I can link you the post by Benson Leung along with the appropriate USB standard if you need it.

Pilz said:
That's correct, but I don't want to fully recommend something that could cause an issue. I have a charger with QC 3.0 over the Type-C port and I have 0 issues using it. It still violates the USB standard to have QC 2.0/3.0 over a Type-C port, but that doesn't mean it won't work. It works, but could potentially cause an issue at some point. I can link you the post by Benson Leung along with the appropriate USB standard if you need it.
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By any chance have you tested this one?
USB Type C Wall Charger, Tronsmart 33W Dual USB Turbo Wall Charger with Quick Charge 3.0 Technology for Nexus 6P, Nexus 5X (5V/3A)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019C23ZGW
Still waiting to receive mine. Obviously it's not up to spec because of the type-c + QC 3.0 standard on the same port but hopefully it works fine. And I also really want that extra type A port and foldable pins. I'm also thinking of getting a Robin when it comes out which uses type-C but with QC 2.0.

rndll said:
By any chance have you tested this one?
USB Type C Wall Charger, Tronsmart 33W Dual USB Turbo Wall Charger with Quick Charge 3.0 Technology for Nexus 6P, Nexus 5X (5V/3A)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019C23ZGW
Still waiting to receive mine. Obviously it's not up to spec because of the type-c + QC 3.0 standard on the same port but hopefully it works fine. And I also really want that extra type A port and foldable pins. I'm also thinking of getting a Robin when it comes out which uses type-C but with QC 2.0.
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I haven't tested that charger, but I do have the exact same model with 2 Type-A ports instead of 1 A and 1 C. Maybe Tronsmart will send me one to test out You can see a review of the version I have in my signature (last link that's says Tronsmart Titan). I have their car charger which also has the same voltages over the Type-C port and it charges my 6P just fine even though its technically not in spec.

Pilz said:
I haven't tested that charger, but I do have the exact same model with 2 Type-A ports instead of 1 A and 1 C. Maybe Tronsmart will send me one to test out You can see a review of the version I have in my signature (last link that's says Tronsmart Titan). I have their car charger which also has the same voltages over the Type-C port and it charges my 6P just fine even though its technically not in spec.
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Yeah saw that when you first posted it. I've had other Tronsmart chargers and cables before. I also bought the Titan when it first came out too and they haven't failed or anything yet. I'm just a little cautious since type-C is new. Hopefully Tronsmart sends you the wall charger to test. I won't get mine for a few weeks due to international shipping and everything.

I've got the Choetech C to C charger and cable. Would recommend it without any hesitation. Build quality is on par with the stock charger, but nothing more. It's not braided or anything, so it's a normal cable with a normal charger
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rndll said:
Yeah saw that when you first posted it. I've had other Tronsmart chargers and cables before. I also bought the Titan when it first came out too and they haven't failed or anything yet. I'm just a little cautious since type-C is new. Hopefully Tronsmart sends you the wall charger to test. I won't get mine for a few weeks due to international shipping and everything.
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I guess we will see what happens. The Titan is a beast, but I can't use the full potential is has with 2 phones. The wall charger should work fine if it's anything like their car charger.

3.0 Quick Chargers

Has someone gathered some experience with Mi5 compatible chargers supporting Quick Charge 3.0?
The original chinese charger that came with the 128GB Mi5 version actually has a QC 3 symbol on the back - while I read it supports just 2.0.
My 'dream' charger should have easy switchable power plugs so it can be easily adjusted to the country's power sockets you're staying in. I remember my old HTC phone once came with 3 different, interchangeable plugs out of the box!

I bought this and works perfectly http://goo.gl/vasfAw

You can also use the Aukey Quick Charge 3.0 products.
I got one for my Mi 5 and its full compatible, shows also quick charge when plugged in.

Is there any significance difference b/w stock xiaomi charger?

droid.riz said:
Is there any significance difference b/w stock xiaomi charger?
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Well, lets say the stock charger isn't the best build quality if you ask me, or at least it does'nt look very "trustworthy".
I wouldn't use it without fear about fire... so i never used it

shade.sh said:
You can also use the Aukey Quick Charge 3.0 products.
I got one for my Mi 5 and its full compatible, shows also quick charge when plugged in.
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which specific aukey charger are you using? what usb cable are you using? and how do you determine whether it is actually quick-charging or not?
thanks in advance - cheers!

cybbbby said:
which specific aukey charger are you using? what usb cable are you using? and how do you determine whether it is actually quick-charging or not?
thanks in advance - cheers!
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I'm using the AuKey Quick Charge 3.0 with 2 Ports and a "good" USB A 3.0 highspeed cable with 56k resistor.
If the display is off and you wake it up while its on charger, on the bottom you can see a notice if its quick or slow charging.

shade.sh said:
I'm using the AuKey Quick Charge 3.0 with 2 Ports and a "good" USB A 3.0 highspeed cable with 56k resistor.
If the display is off and you wake it up while its on charger, on the bottom you can see a notice if its quick or slow charging.
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thanks for your quick reply!
I guess am using the same charger you mentioned (w/ 2 orange usb type a ports) in combination with the stock usb type a to c cable which was shipped with my MI5. The cable the charger came with was of little use as it is was not a type c cable :/
this notification you are talking of however.. how does it look like? atm I have no clue what I should be looking for to be honest
(I also tried an Anker QC 3.0 charger - performance-wise it was a lot worse than the Aukey charger and therefore went right back to Amazon)

I went for the Tronsmart qc3 for both car and regular. Good quality, just make sure you buy a decent cable along.

killbox said:
I went for the Tronsmart qc3 for both car and regular. Good quality, just make sure you buy a decent cable along.
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do you have gps drops when you connected to car quick charge 3.0 charger?

droid.riz said:
Is there any significance difference b/w stock xiaomi charger?
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I think the stock charger isn't a QC 3.0 charger. (And neither is the cable IMO.)
But I am not sure, and not bothered to test. :cyclops:

To those who replied here with tronsmart or aukey QC3 chargers, does it come with a USB type C cable? I cannot find any info about this in google alone. TIA, cheers.

My aukey QC3 charger from amazon Germany came without any cable. I am therefore currently using the stock USB type C cable. I am however not sure whether that cable is 100% compliant and to be honest quite annoyed by all that controversy around the type C standard and QC3 and the incompatibility between both -.-
sent from MI5

Just to have it here:
I am using since March the BlitzWolf QC3.0 charger with a BlitzWolf 3Amps usb type C cable. works fine, charges fast enough.

Well all those chargers charging more faster then the stock one or i worng?
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pletpetplet said:
Well all those chargers charging more faster then the stock one or i worng?
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The "anker qc3" charger I tried was definitely charging slower than the stock charger + travel adapter : )

TheUltrametricSpace said:
Just to have it here:
I am using since March the BlitzWolf QC3.0 charger with a BlitzWolf 3Amps usb type C cable. works fine, charges fast enough.
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Do you mean this one?
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Blit...ger-USB-Adapter-with-Power3S/32604474505.html
I also ordered http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Blit...ta-Micro-USB-Cable-3-0A-Male/32582577078.html

hampa said:
Do you mean this one?
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Blit...ger-USB-Adapter-with-Power3S/32604474505.html
I also ordered http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Blit...ta-Micro-USB-Cable-3-0A-Male/32582577078.html
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yes this one and maybe the same cable, dunno about the cable.

Hey Guys
Can anyone suggest a good, reputable, certified Qualcomm QC3 charger that has an included USB type-C cable?
I was eyeing on Tronsmart's QC3 1port wall charger, but I found out that it only has the micro-usb cable, and not the Type-C for Mi5.

prince10t said:
Hey Guys
Can anyone suggest a good, reputable, certified Qualcomm QC3 charger that has an included USB type-C cable?
I was eyeing on Tronsmart's QC3 1port wall charger, but I found out that it only has the micro-usb cable, and not the Type-C for Mi5.
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An Aukey is on the way to me with the cable included.
I earlier suggested the BlitzWolf, but BlitzWolf is not really certified for QC3.
This is a list with QC3 charger: https://www.qualcomm.com/documents/quick-charge-device-list
have alook on page 2 of the document.

Best new car charger?

I just stumbled upon this when looking for a new car charger that would keep USB C for my 6P, and the new Nexus in case it also doesn't support QC, but wanted QC support as well for USB A since I just bought an expensive Anker Power line+ USB A to C cable (they don't offer C to C). But, I wanted 2 USB A ports, not just 1.
Lo and behold, the only car charger of its kind! This puppy has 2x USB A QC 3.0 ports & 1x USB C with QC 3.0 as well.
I will have it Saturday and test it out for both my Note7 and 6P. Their other products have pretty good reviews. I guess the customer service may suck if the product fails according to some reviews, but it seems like a low failure rate, and with Prime I'm not too worried.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01IVBWWCI/ref=ya_st_dp_summary

Nitemare3219 said:
I just stumbled upon this when looking for a new car charger that would keep USB C for my 6P, and the new Nexus in case it also doesn't support QC, but wanted QC support as well for USB A since I just bought an expensive Anker Power line+ USB A to C cable (they don't offer C to C). But, I wanted 2 USB A ports, not just 1.
Lo and behold, the only car charger of its kind! This puppy has 2x USB A QC 3.0 ports & 1x USB C with QC 3.0 as well.
I will have it Saturday and test it out for both my Note7 and 6P. Their other products have pretty good reviews. I guess the customer service may suck if the product fails according to some reviews, but it seems like a low failure rate, and with Prime I'm not too worried.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01IVBWWCI/ref=ya_st_dp_summary
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could have gotten this one from Anker https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01G5B069C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

billycar11 said:
could have gotten this one from Anker https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01G5B069C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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$32 and it only has 1 QC 3.0 port. The charger I listed has 3.

Nitemare3219 said:
$32 and it only has 1 QC 3.0 port. The charger I listed has 3.
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Your 6P don't need Quick Charge you know ?
A 5v/3a charger with USB-C will do the trick.

Nitemare3219 said:
$32 and it only has 1 QC 3.0 port. The charger I listed has 3.
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therock3181 said:
Your 6P don't need Quick Charge you know ?
A 5v/3a charger with USB-C will do the trick.
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Also worth noting QC on a type C port is in direct violation of the USB Type C standard. Would not be "Benson-approved"

therock3181 said:
Your 6P don't need Quick Charge you know ?
A 5v/3a charger with USB-C will do the trick.
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5V/3A is the USB C standard, so any C charger should work. But the new Nexuses could use QC - my Tronsmart car charger has had USB C with QC and works fine with my 6P and any QC device I tried. But more importantly, I have a 6P and so does my girlfriend, but I also have a Note7, so the flexibility is nice.
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Also worth noting QC on a type C port is in direct violation of the USB Type C standard. Would not be "Benson-approved"
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Benson approved really doesn't matter for this. LG, HTC, Samsung, and Qualcomm all support/back using QC over USB C with properly made cables and chargers. Just because it doesn't adhere to the standard doesn't automatically mean anything is wrong with it. USB C power delivery calls for what, 20V at 5A or something like that? It can obviously handle the load.

Nitemare3219 said:
5V/3A is the USB C standard, so any C charger should work. But the new Nexuses could use QC - my Tronsmart car charger has had USB C with QC and works fine with my 6P and any QC device I tried. But more importantly, I have a 6P and so does my girlfriend, but I also have a Note7, so the flexibility is nice.
Benson approved really doesn't matter for this. LG, HTC, Samsung, and Qualcomm all support/back using QC over USB C with properly made cables and chargers. Just because it doesn't adhere to the standard doesn't automatically mean anything is wrong with it. USB C power delivery calls for what, 20V at 5A or something like that? It can obviously handle the load.
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I just don't trust it that's all. there are too many manufacturers making type c chargers with Vbus hot and bridged CC - which is dangerous for devices/chargers. IMO if they are willing to break one spec, they are likely willing to break multiple.

Nitemare3219 said:
I just stumbled upon this when looking for a new car charger that would keep USB C for my 6P, and the new Nexus in case it also doesn't support QC, but wanted QC support as well for USB A since I just bought an expensive Anker Power line+ USB A to C cable (they don't offer C to C). But, I wanted 2 USB A ports, not just 1.
Lo and behold, the only car charger of its kind! This puppy has 2x USB A QC 3.0 ports & 1x USB C with QC 3.0 as well.
I will have it Saturday and test it out for both my Note7 and 6P. Their other products have pretty good reviews. I guess the customer service may suck if the product fails according to some reviews, but it seems like a low failure rate, and with Prime I'm not too worried.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01IVBWWCI/ref=ya_st_dp_summary
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So... did it work?

Caboose27 said:
So... did it work?
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Sure, for about 15 minutes. Thought I posted back here but apparently not.
It's trash. Yes, it has all the mentioned ports and it works perfectly with each device briefly. Problem is, it becomes thermally overloaded and the charge speeds drop DRAMATICALLY. USB C charging, even at 5V/3A, was by far the worst. Charging a USB C device by itself would rapid charge for about 30-45 minutes before slowing way down. QuickCharge generally worked okay for a little bit longer. If you had 2 devices charging at the same time, you'd be lucky to keep them going for 20 minutes. Also, it constantly drew power (a significant amount) from my car's power port because it was ALWAYS very warm to the touch which made the overheating problem happen even faster if I didn't unplug it in-between uses.

Nitemare3219 said:
Sure, for about 15 minutes. Thought I posted back here but apparently not.
It's trash. Yes, it has all the mentioned ports and it works perfectly with each device briefly. Problem is, it becomes thermally overloaded and the charge speeds drop DRAMATICALLY. USB C charging, even at 5V/3A, was by far the worst. Charging a USB C device by itself would rapid charge for about 30-45 minutes before slowing way down. QuickCharge generally worked okay for a little bit longer. If you had 2 devices charging at the same time, you'd be lucky to keep them going for 20 minutes. Also, it constantly drew power (a significant amount) from my car's power port because it was ALWAYS very warm to the touch which made the overheating problem happen even faster if I didn't unplug it in-between uses.
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Good to know. I've been having a frustrating hunt for a fast charging car charger.

I took this Aukey charger with me on a one-month, 3,000 mile road trip and it worked perfectly the whole time, just used the C-C cable that comes with the 6p charger. Can't recommend it enough.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01E764DXM/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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MYxdaUSERNAME said:
I took this Aukey charger with me on a one-month, 3,000 mile road trip and it worked perfectly the whole time, just used the C-C cable that comes with the 6p charger. Can't recommend it enough.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01E764DXM/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I love this charger! I get to rapid charge my Nexus 6P while my girlfriend gets to quick charge her Nexus 6 all at the same time! Both phones plugged in and 0 issues!

USB Type C Car Charger, BlitzWolf 27W 5V/3A USB-C 3.3 Feet Cable Extension and 2.4A USB $10
I bought this one price was right and it charges almost as quickly as oem. The only con is the cable is built in.

You can look at the brand anker ?

I use this one. It charges just as fast as the OEM wall charger. Plus it has a standard Qualcomm quick charge 2.0 if you have another device.
[Qualcomm Certified] BlitzWolf® BW-C7 USB Type C Quick Charge QC 2.0 33W Car Charger
https://banggood.app.link/9zXLWYzGVG

Any recommendations on the best car charger?

Hey all, just acquired my new Pixel XL. It's my first USB-c device so need to get some new cables... I was looking at USB-c car chargers on Amazon but not seeing any rave reviews on much. Do you all have any recommendations? Is there a certain standard of charger that is best for the Pixel (I.e. quick charge 2.0 or 3.0 etc)?
Thanks everyone for your input

AntikytheraTech said:
Hey all, just acquired my new Pixel XL. It's my first USB-c device so need to get some new cables... I was looking at USB-c car chargers on Amazon but not seeing any rave reviews on much. Do you all have any recommendations? Is there a certain standard of charger that is best for the Pixel (I.e. quick charge 2.0 or 3.0 etc)?
Thanks everyone for your input
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The pixels use usb-pd and not quick charge 2.0 or 3.0. Currently, there is not a lot of great options. there are a few threads taking about it in this forum.
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dragonsofcp said:
The pixels use usb-pd and not quick charge 2.0 or 3.0. Currently, there is not a lot of great options. there are a few threads taking about it in this forum.
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Check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3474205
Shout out to @Nathan-K and Benson. I've spent hours reading their G+ pages and Amazon reviews and I'm blown away by the work they're doing trying to hold manufacturers accountable and keep consumers safe.
Tl;dr - most are junk currently, and some are even dangerous. 1 specific Verizon version for usb-c pd (TYPECPDVPC ONLY!) is the most acceptable one.
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Check out this spreadsheet it has chargers on it and one is type car. There are no perfect PD chargers at the moment (18W) AUKEYCC-Y7 and Verizon 27w TYPECPDVPC are the least bad. It is probably best to take the 3W hit at the moment and go for a 15W non PD car charger like the Belkin 15w F7U005bt04-BLK or Nomad B015NN0OKO. Personally I have gone for the AUKEYCC-Y7 PD charger as although not perfect it is at least cheap.
Bear in mind that some chargers come with a fixed USB-C charging cable. Ones that are cable less will need a decent cable as well. Decent ones cost as much as the chargers. So given the current price I recommend going for the Belkin 15W charger with built in cable
spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...x9dMDWqENiY2kgBJUu29f_TX8/edit#gid=1288176877
AUKEY CC-Y7 20 USD
https://www.amazon.com/Charger-Deli...F8&qid=1481192204&sr=8-1&keywords=AUKEY+CC-Y7
Belkin 15w F7U005bt04-BLK 25 USD (On sale!)
https://www.amazon.com/Belkin-USB-I...6&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=Belkin+15w+F7U005bt04

I would stick with your existing USB - A charger and get a A to C cable.
None of the USB-C chargers are anywhere near good.

I just got this one two days ago based on Benson Leung's review. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014F2NQ36/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
His review: https://www.amazon.com/review/R2Z6A...etail-glance&nodeID=2335752011&store=wireless
I found a link in one of these threads that has a easy to follow list. It doesn't appear to be updated so some of the newer items are not listed: https://usbccompliant.com/

James4.0 said:
I would stick with your existing USB - A charger and get a A to C cable.
None of the USB-C chargers are anywhere near good.
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So there's no issue using an old micro USB charging cable? I planned on using my old ones and I purchased a 2 pack of USB-C to Micro USB adapters from Amazon. Can't seem to get clarification about the micro USB chargers..

I have no clue with micro > C adapters. The OEM A>C cable works great and make sure any 3rd party A > C cables should have the required 56kΩ resistor.
I am using a few of these from Anker on an old .5a Moto charger, older Anker car charger and an extra thrown in my work bag.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01A6F3WHG/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

aholeinthewor1d said:
So there's no issue using an old micro USB charging cable? I planned on using my old ones and I purchased a 2 pack of USB-C to Micro USB adapters from Amazon. Can't seem to get clarification about the micro USB chargers..
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Of course there is an issue, you need to use either use a micro to c adapter with a 56k ohm pull-up resistor in it or a an approved a to c cable that also has a 56k ohm pull-up resistor.
EDIT: make sure you bookmark that google spreadsheet and check it for up to date~ info.

clockcycle said:
Of course there is an issue, you need to use either use a micro to c adapter with a 56k ohm pull-up resistor in it or a an approved a to c cable that also has a 56k ohm pull-up resistor.
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Well that's why I asked.. lol
So the adapter that came with the phone is ok to use with old micro USB cables?

Droid_Junky said:
I just got this one two days ago based on Benson Leung's review. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014F2NQ36/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
His review: https://www.amazon.com/review/R2Z6A...etail-glance&nodeID=2335752011&store=wireless
I found a link in one of these threads that has a easy to follow list. It doesn't appear to be updated so some of the newer items are not listed: https://usbccompliant.com/
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That visnic is no longer even on the spreadsheet
I got the v3 CCTA from tronsmart and returned it, the pixel sees it as a device when you unplug and plug it into 12v with car turned off/not powering socket..
The 27w Belkin is now considered bad after further testing has shown it to allow the pixel to backfeed power.
Oh, all Belkins are now in the bad -2 recommendation..
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aholeinthewor1d said:
Well that's why I asked.. lol
So the adapter that came with the phone is ok to use with old micro USB cables?
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A Micro to usb type c adapter didnt come with the phone. You can use the USB A to C cable that came with the phone with legacy chargers.

Has anyone plugged their pixel into an "old" charger and actually had an issue? I see lots of people going crazy about chargers and also see lots of people that use any old charger they have with a cheap adapter and they have no issue.

aholeinthewor1d said:
Has anyone plugged their pixel into an "old" charger and actually had an issue? I see lots of people going crazy about chargers and also see lots of people that use any old charger they have with a cheap adapter and they have no issue.
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I use my old charger with the oem a to c cable and my old a to micro cable with a micro to c adapter that has the 56k ohm resistor just fine, it's just slower than max, but no big deal. hardly ever have to use it, but have it just in case.

I have been using an old Anker pre QC charger and it has been working fine.
I haven't tried the QC3 charger in my wife's car yet.
For now the A>C cables with the 56 ohm resistor is the safe way to go.
Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

Droid_Junky said:
I just got this one two days ago based on Benson Leung's review. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014F2NQ36/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
His review: https://www.amazon.com/review/R2Z6A...etail-glance&nodeID=2335752011&store=wireless
I found a link in one of these threads that has a easy to follow list. It doesn't appear to be updated so some of the newer items are not listed: https://usbccompliant.com/
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Plus one. Have this and love it.

I use this one I bought off Amazon. Been using it for a while. Never had any problems with it. Rapidly charges my pixel and you can charge 2 items at the same time. Check it out for yourself.

Belkin
The Belkin 15 watt used to be recommended as it was the charger for the 6p. I have used it with the 6p and now the Pixel. Not sure why it went from 2 to -1. Obviously it does not do PD with the Pixel, but I cannot see it doing harm. Same is true for the Google 6p wall charger. I sue that with the Pixel also. Any thoughts?

pclewis said:
The Belkin 15 watt used to be recommended as it was the charger for the 6p. I have used it with the 6p and now the Pixel. Not sure why it went from 2 to -1. Obviously it does not do PD with the Pixel, but I cannot see it doing harm.
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I would guess the change is for charging as noted. There are some further comments about a lack of IR drop compensation circuitry in the Google+ information below. I view the list as simply somewhat subjective opinions from an engineer, and like you said, I couldn't find comments in Google+ to suggest the Belkin you're talking about might pose a threat to a phone. My previous Razr M would tend to lose power when charging and using navigation, so I may just keep the Belkin PD model and see what happens with a replacement, in spite of the current -2 in the list.
https://plus.google.com/102612254593917101378/posts/dxxeQtDTXuW?sfc=true

moogaloo said:
Check out this spreadsheet it has chargers on it and one is type car. There are no perfect PD chargers at the moment (18W) AUKEYCC-Y7 and Verizon 27w TYPECPDVPC are the least bad. It is probably best to take the 3W hit at the moment and go for a 15W non PD car charger like the Belkin 15w F7U005bt04-BLK or Nomad B015NN0OKO. Personally I have gone for the AUKEYCC-Y7 PD charger as although not perfect it is at least cheap.
Bear in mind that some chargers come with a fixed USB-C charging cable. Ones that are cable less will need a decent cable as well. Decent ones cost as much as the chargers. So given the current price I recommend going for the Belkin 15W charger with built in cable
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...x9dMDWqENiY2kgBJUu29f_TX8/edit#gid=1288176877
AUKEY CC-Y7 20 USD
https://www.amazon.com/Charger-Deli...F8&qid=1481192204&sr=8-1&keywords=AUKEY+CC-Y7
Belkin 15w F7U005bt04-BLK 25 USD (On sale!)
https://www.amazon.com/Belkin-USB-I...6&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=Belkin+15w+F7U005bt04
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I bought two of the AUKEY ones and have been using them without issue and they charge fast. Using a choetech USB c to c cable on one of them and an Anker c to c on the other.
Sent from my Pixel XL using XDA Labs

Some further information has been posted on the Belkin car chargers:
F7U004bt04-BLK
https://plus.google.com/102612254593917101378/posts/fKDKFYqnWt1
F7U005bt04-BLK
https://plus.google.com/102612254593917101378/posts/dgqeFSM19bd
F7U006bt04-BLK
https://plus.google.com/102612254593917101378/posts/SYq8iPEGv2Y