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I was moving some stuff around on the internal SD card and must have deleted a folder or moved something because I can't download anything without and external card in the phone. I can't even use the camera without an SD card because there is no where for the pics to be saved. Can someone with knowledge of the stock Android file system tell me what I may have messed up?
The internal storage of the phone should all be located under "mnt" right?
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seh6183 said:
I was moving some stuff around on the internal SD card and must have deleted a folder or moved something because I can't download anything without and external card in the phone. I can't even use the camera without pan SD card because there is no where for the pics to be saved. Can someone with knowledge of the stock Android file system tell me what I may have messed up?
The internal storage of the phone should all be located under "mnt" right?
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First... Terminology...
You were moving stuff around on your SD card, right? The one that can be physically swapped out? Not the "internal" memory, I assume.
With root explorer or something?
The SD card that is removeable from the phone, like the what you made your goldcard out of, is under /mnt/sdcard.
The internal memory, where the OS is stored and whatnot, is different.
On my Atrix it was referred to as an internal SD card which would be the internal memory of the phone, im new to android so I assumed this is how it works. I am not referring to my external SD card, I can format that if need be. The internal file systems of my phone is messed up and I seem to be unable to save anything to it.
and yes I was using root explorer.
seh6183 said:
On my Atrix it was referred to as an internal SD card which would be the internal memory of the phone, im new to android so I assumed this is how it works. I am not referring to my external SD card, I can format that if need be. The internal file systems of my phone is messed up and I seem to be unable to save anything to it.
and yes I was using root explorer.
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The inspire only has one storage system and that is The external SD. That is the only place things are stored. There is no internel memory like the atrix or captivate.
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The inspire only has one storage system and that is The external SD. That is the only place things are stored. There is no internel memory like the atrix or captivate.
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Wow thank you. I wasnt aware of this. So I wont be able to download pictures from the internet or use my camera unless I have an SD card in at all times?
That's completely correct.
Just invest in a decent microSD card, you'll be carrying it to your next phone anyhow.
Hunt3r.j2 said:
That's completely correct.
Just invest in a decent microSD card, you'll be carrying it to your next phone anyhow.
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What he ^^^^ said. You can get a decent 16 gb class 10 card for about 40 bucks or so. Should look into it. Internel memory is not the best place for your pics. If something happens and you brick then you lose everything. With external it is pretty save
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What he ^^^^ said. You can get a decent 16 gb class 10 card for about 40 bucks or so. Should look into it. Internel memory is not the best place for your pics. If something happens and you brick then you lose everything. With external it is pretty save
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I have a 16 gb external. Got it for 27
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Putting it back in now lol
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I have a 16 gb external. Got it for 27
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Nice. What class? 2, 4 ,6, 10? I was able to find a class 10 for 39.99 at best buy and that was the best price I have seen
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Nice. What class? 2, 4 ,6, 10? I was able to find a class 10 for 39.99 at best buy and that was the best price I have seen
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Class 4
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Class 4
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I'm curious and have a couple questions about you SD card. What brand is it? Where did you get it? Finally, did that price include shipping and applicable taxes. Thanx much!
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The inspire only has one storage system and that is The external SD. That is the only place things are stored. There is no internel memory like the atrix or captivate.
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Oh come on dude, Moderators shouldn't make sarcastic comments like that.
The Inspire has it's own internal storage (Elixer calculates it to 1.1GB), as well as external storage on the SD card.
If the Inspire had no internal storage, and only put stuff on the SD card, then WTF would be the point of the "move to SD" function, and the fact that it actually does work?!?!
The "internal" storage uses /data, /cache, and /system, while the "external" SD card uses /mnt/sdcard
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Oh come on dude, Moderators shouldn't make sarcastic comments like that.
The Inspire has it's own internal storage (Elixer calculates it to 1.1GB), as well as external storage on the SD card.
If the Inspire had no internal storage, and only put stuff on the SD card, then WTF would be the point of the "move to SD" function, and the fact that it actually does work?!?!
The "internal" storage uses /data, /cache, and /system, while the "external" SD card uses /mnt/sdcard
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First off it wasn't sarcastic. Second the OP was asking about storing pictures and those are only stored on the external SD. The move to SD is for apps that are stored in data/app, when moved to SD. it changes the directory to sdcard/data/app
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First off it wasn't sarcastic.
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Sorry for assuming your posting was sarcastic, I see so much of that here.
I wonder if any devs out there are working on a way to force the camera software to be able to use the internal memory instead of just the SD Card, or at least use it as a buffer while writing to the SD. That would sure cut down on the annoying shutter lag, I bet.
did you look at slickdeals or even costco for different prices? Slickdeals usually have a lot of deals on USB flash drives and SD cards. Hope that helps
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Sorry for assuming your posting was sarcastic, I see so much of that here.
I wonder if any devs out there are working on a way to force the camera software to be able to use the internal memory instead of just the SD Card, or at least use it as a buffer while writing to the SD. That would sure cut down on the annoying shutter lag, I bet.
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I understand where your coming from as it is an all too regular sight recently. I am normally very laid back and easy going. As for the shutter lag, I only have my captivate to test in but, I have never seen a diff if it is stored on the internal or external SD. But I also don't use the stock camera.
hey ive searched but couldnt find a solution....my question is that whether i can play music from internal storage as 4 gb is too much for apps....how can i do that...im on ota ics
Short answer? No. The internal memory is reserved only for the system partition. Even if you could throw some mp3's into a folder in the system side. There's not a music player out there that would look for the files in the system partition. So, no man. You're outta luck.
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This is some what useless way to say if there is no other option..... The only real way would be to use something like root explorer..... From there you could move a folder of music from sd to /folder name..... Then from root explorer you could use the music files one at a time .... Best bet go to rat shack and get a 32 gb sd for like $20.....
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hey ive searched but couldnt find a solution....my question is that whether i can play music from internal storage as 4 gb is too much for apps....how can i do that...im on ota ics
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As much as iOS is junk, no doubt, shouldn't this be what your iPod is for? (I'm kidding, but seriously)...
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This is some what useless way to say if there is no other option..... The only real way would be to use something like root explorer..... From there you could move a folder of music from sd to /folder name..... Then from root explorer you could use the music files one at a time .... Best bet go to rat shack and get a 32 gb sd for like $20.....
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Well, actually you don't want to stick in /system or /anythingelse, you will bootloop.... If you copy anything to internal storage, it is best to "attempt" put it in /data/music or something, but that is still not a good way to do it. Now this is all just in theory mind you, as it is known that putting things that were not meant to go in certain places on this phone has caused way more heartache than it should and caused more bootloops than I care to elaborate on now.
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Well, actually you don't want to stick in /system or /anythingelse, you will bootloop.... If you copy anything to internal storage, it is best to "attempt" put it in /data/music or something, but that is still not a good way to do it. Now this is all just in theory mind you, as it is known that putting things that were not meant to go in certain places on this phone has caused way more heartache than it should and caused more bootloops than I care to elaborate on now.
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+1 :good: Yea I have had more than my fair share or bootloops from just looking at my / wrong LOL.....
all of my internal memory is going waste..i hardly use any apps....all i do is music and vids.....i had 16 gb card but it had problems with my ph.....my battery wasnt lasting long enough.... so internal memory problem is the same with other phones also ....i wonder how ppl use nexus phones?
Some phones have user accessible internal storage and in those phones it's done in a way that the user wont be able to modify critical system files. The Atrix 2 is not one of those phones so if you make a mistake you will get a bootloop like hankbizzo5 said. How did you determine that the SD card was reducing your battery life?
Just make sure you get a class 4 card and you'll be fine.
my battery was draining very fast...so i used battery monitor widget...i showed me 200-300 mA discharge even when screen off....so i formatted....same peroblem....i changed the sd from 16 gb sandisk class 4 to 2 gb ....nw everything is fine
so nothing could be done? i mean galaxy note....s3 all have large internal....cant we do anything abt it?....i mean atrix 2 is one of the best dual cores around...i thought this would be solved with ics...some say moto media centre transfers music to internal but i doubt
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so nothing could be done? i mean galaxy note....s3 all have large internal....cant we do anything abt it?....i mean atrix 2 is one of the best dual cores around...i thought this would be solved with ics...some say moto media centre transfers music to internal but i doubt
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Yeah, I got an idea.... go find Jims sig and click on his dropbox link, sign up, and you will have 2.5gbs free online storage and you can even put your files in a public folder to play them from anywhere. Its not 4gb but it could be if you then get other people to sign up.
FWIW, I used a 32gb class 10 from time to time and never really noticed a battery problem. That's interesting.
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so nothing could be done? i mean galaxy note....s3 all have large internal....cant we do anything abt it?....i mean atrix 2 is one of the best dual cores around...i thought this would be solved with ics...some say moto media centre transfers music to internal but i doubt
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No nothing can be done as far as actually utilizing the internal storage for your personal use. Yes, I'm not surprised your note can do it, add I have access to my internal storage on my skyrocket. But you just can't do it with the A2.
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I just want to say, I have been using the Blaze for 6 months, but, everyone else has 4 GB in their Blaze. I only have about 2.5 GB of internal storage. Was there a change in the production or something? View Screenshots.
My phone has the exact same internal storage as you and total space. The 4gb you're referring to could be the external SD card. I'm using a 8gb card at the moment...
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Makes sense.
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My phone has the exact same internal storage as you and total space. The 4gb you're referring to could be the external SD card. I'm using a 8gb card at the moment...
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Well, that makes sense. The phone did come with the external SD card. I never really thought about it cause the external SD card that came with my phone was corrupted. I have a 2GB external right now. By the way, I use PacRom too.
PAC ROM is top-notch, make sure and thank Ink for the goodness!
It came corrupted? That is a pisscutter, did you get a replacement? I've read this phone can handle add much as 32gb, have yet to go up though...
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PAC ROM is top-notch, make sure and thank Ink for the goodness!
It came corrupted? That is a pisscutter, did you get a replacement? I've read this phone can handle add much as 32gb, have yet to go up though...
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It did come corrupted, and I didn't ask for a replacement. Doesn't seem like a big deal until I can store apps and stuff on my SD card. Also, SD cards are cheap. I just never got around to buying another one.
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I just want to say, I have been using the Blaze for 6 months, but, everyone else has 4 GB in their Blaze. I only have about 2.5 GB of internal storage. Was there a change in the production or something? View Screenshots.
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I just got this phone and I'm wondering about the same thing. There are two "internal storage" bars and they show total space of 1.12 and 1.4G respectively. The SD card remains mostly unused. It seems that the internal storage is partitioned in two? It appears all the appdata is also stored on the 2nd "internal storage". How do i consolidate the two into one, and use the SD card for all the data storage?
Many thanks.
That would be awesome if we could combine the two partitions into one and use a SD as the second. Unfortunately Samsung crippled our phones with their wacky partitions.
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tommyboy8125 said:
That would be awesome if we could combine the two partitions into one and use a SD as the second. Unfortunately Samsung crippled our phones with their wacky partitions.
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So I take that the partition is permenant?
This really severaly limits the usability of the phone to that of a novice/beginner, with only <2gb for apps and another <2gb for data. Is there any script/app/etc that mounts the 2nd partition to the external SD? I've searched and Link2SD shows up a few times, something I've used on P509 (optimus T) and didn't think I would have to use it again. It works, but it's annoying when it fails. Was hoping for something cleaner than that.
I bought the phone imagining that the 4GB could be used for app and the data would go on SD..
Yea you can swap mounts to use the SD card as the second partition. It's around here somewhere, do a search for swapping internal / external mount points
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tommyboy8125 said:
Yea you can swap mounts to use the SD card as the second partition. It's around here somewhere, do a search for swapping internal / external mount points
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it seems all of these solution (including link2sd) isn't permenant and would screw up (and it did) after rom update. Link2sd is kinda pointless when it doesn't move the data to the external sd, and mounting scripts would just run into problems when ROM's updated.
There doesn't seem to be a very clean solution for this.. Would have been nicer if they just relied on extSD for storage.. why bother with the SD slot when you store things internally by default?
kinda frustrating really.
Well there's 4gb unformatted, which means 10% less afterwards, so 3.6gb but the system needs space, so there's another chunk gone and then system apps and whatnots are using space, as does cache etc. So we get about 2.5gb usable to us, then we install gapps and the other basics and have about 2gb left.
with a camera app that now allows storage to external, it gets a lot easier. Move big apps to external SD as with music and downloads. I did have some success with the script that swaps internal/external, but now I just get by with the occasional cleanout.
tommyboy8125 said:
That would be awesome if we could combine the two partitions into one and use a SD as the second. Unfortunately Samsung crippled our phones with their wacky partitions.
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nothing is crippled, nothing is stolen, missing, or deceptive. buy a 32Gb microsd card and enjoy it.
if you applications don't use sdcard or have the option to, page the developer to change it.
all my apps, backups, videos, pictures, gpx's, waypoints, offline maps, - everything - is on my sdcard. it works fine.
Is there a way to move oculus apps to sdcard? I've just started using this thing and only 14.81 Gb is left . Reminds me Htc desire times, when we had ~140 mb of internal storage.. Well apps on those days were 100 kb - 2 mb in size Now oculus eats gazillions bytes of precious internal storage.
I skimmed few articles about adoptive storage, but as far as I understand Samsung throwed this away
I thought you could move most apps to SD card, have you tried?
If it cannot move the Oculus apps to SD, then VR is going to flop. As 32 GB (24GB actually) is really insufficient to hold regular + VR apps.
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vukis said:
I skimmed few articles about adoptive storage, but as far as I understand Samsung throwed this away
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Give this a try http://www.modaco.com/news/android/...e-adoptable-storage-on-your-s7-s7-edge-r1632/
I went to one of my games for example and changed the storage location and it moved everything. I had to go to the application manager to do it. when you open the application in there just select the storage type which mentions internal and select internal and click move. worked like a charm
Thank you @peachpuff I will try that
@milesk182 I know this feature but it does not work on oculus apps
vukis said:
Thank you @peachpuff I will try that
@milesk182 I know this feature but it does not work on oculus apps
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@vukis, can you confirm that @peachpuff's solution works? I've only had my phone for about a month and am already out of space!!! I'll be more than happy to go buy a larger SD card if this method will work.
ned4spd8874 said:
@vukis, can you confirm that @peachpuff's solution works? I've only had my phone for about a month and am already out of space!!! I'll be more than happy to go buy a larger SD card if this method will work.
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Yes it works, make sure type out the disk stuff properly and migrate data at the end.
Didn't work for me - many Oculus games and apps don't give you the option to move them to the external storage (yes, even with adoptable storage configured).
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Devhux said:
Didn't work for me - many Oculus games and apps don't give you the option to move them to the external storage (yes, even with adoptable storage configured).
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Well crap! Haven't bought my card yet. Waiting for a good deal on a 200GB, I only have a 32GB now. Maybe by then they'll fix this. I have about 6 or so VR apps/games and it's killing my space! How did they miss this? Seems like such a blunder to give these headsets out on a phone with limited memory and not give people the ability to add more!
Can confirm. With latest Samsung update can move regular apps to sdcard but not a single oculus app or game can move to adoptable storage.
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ned4spd8874 said:
Well crap! Haven't bought my card yet. Waiting for a good deal on a 200GB, I only have a 32GB now. Maybe by then they'll fix this. I have about 6 or so VR apps/games and it's killing my space! How did they miss this? Seems like such a blunder to give these headsets out on a phone with limited memory and not give people the ability to add more!
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The phone should have come with 64GB option really. The SD card, even the Samsung Evo Pro+ is slow. Actually, the internal memory controler for the SD card is half the speed of what the Pro+ supports on a PC. Sad really, and it's such a sweet phone. What a shame!
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How did they miss this? Seems like such a blunder to give these headsets out on a phone with limited memory and not give people the ability to add more!
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Probably on purpose because running huge VR games off a (possibly) slow SD card would cause performance issues.
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skywalkr2 said:
I thought you could move most apps to SD card, have you tried?
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To use the adaptable storage method you need at least a U3 card. I was about to buy one when I came across this app on google play:
Link2SD allows you to move Gear VR apps to external storage. I have moved 3 successfully and have not encounter a problem. There is a plus version which allows you to link after moving but I'm loving the free version so far!
If you can do it, go ahead and contact me.
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Still have over a year on contract, but stupidly contracted for a 16gb s5.
It's full. Can't install any apps, though I still have the 64GB microsd which is basically unusable.
Eleusis said:
If you can do it, go ahead and contact me.
Prefer New Orleans local.
Still have over a year on contract, but stupidly contracted for a 16gb s5.
It's full. Can't install any apps, though I still have the 64GB microsd which is basically unusable.
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Root will not help install apps on microsd. You need a rom for that. Download EMMC brick bug check from the play store and send a screenshot of it.
If all you are looking for is more space to install apps wouldn't it be easier to take the update to Android 6.01 and use the Adoptable Storage feature? Of course you didn't mention which carrier you are using. I can only speak for Verizon which has rolled out 6.01.
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If all you are looking for is more space to install apps wouldn't it be easier to take the update to Android 6.01 and use the Adoptable Storage feature? Of course you didn't mention which carrier you are using. I can only speak for Verizon which has rolled out 6.01.
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samsung disabled adoptive storage in their mm touchwiz
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Root will not help install apps on microsd. You need a rom for that. Download EMMC brick bug check from the play store and send a screenshot of it.
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Thank you.
Screenshot attached. I was under the impression that root was required to install apps to the sd card. The phone gives an option for moving apps, but IRL it's less than probably 5% of the space.
16gb on this phone is only 12 after bloatware... UGH
ETA: I do have a custom ROM (NOVA Launcher?) but it doesn't help in that regard.
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If all you are looking for is more space to install apps wouldn't it be easier to take the update to Android 6.01 and use the Adoptable Storage feature? Of course you didn't mention which carrier you are using. I can only speak for Verizon which has rolled out 6.01.
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Well it's the Verizon Samsung Galaxy S5 forum, so....
Eleusis said:
Thank you.
Screenshot attached. I was under the impression that root was required to install apps to the sd card. The phone gives an option for moving apps, but IRL it's less than probably 5% of the space.
16gb on this phone is only 12 after bloatware... UGH
Well it's the Verizon Samsung Galaxy S5 forum, so....
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You cannot install a ROM that let's you use adopted storage on that emmc chip
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You cannot install a ROM that let's you use adopted storage on that emmc chip
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Thanks again.
Wouldn't a root at least allow me to clean 3gb of bloatware? Create a little space?
ETA: Heck a gig or two would be worth it... this phone sucks so bad for me right now. I cant install anything.
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Thank you.
Screenshot attached. I was under the impression that root was required to install apps to the sd card. The phone gives an option for moving apps, but IRL it's less than probably 5% of the space.
16gb on this phone is only 12 after bloatware... UGH
ETA: I do have a custom ROM (NOVA Launcher?) but it doesn't help in that regard.
Well it's the Verizon Samsung Galaxy S5 forum, so....
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I was basing my comment regarding adoptable storage from info from another XDA Thread that indicated a method used on the S7 also works for the S5. Haven't tried it though.
Yes, it is a Verizon forum but I've seen lots of post by folks with other carriers. I just didn't assume...
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Thanks again.
Wouldn't a root at least allow me to clean 3gb of bloatware? Create a little space?
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Nope. All the space freed is on the system partition, which apps cannot be installed to.
Sorry for the bad news.
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I was basing my comment regarding adoptable storage from info from another XDA Thread that indicated a method used on the S7 also works for the S5. Haven't tried it though.
Yes, it is a Verizon forum but I've seen lots of post by folks with other carriers. I just didn't assume...
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Thanks, and I get it
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Nope. All the space freed is on the system partition, which apps cannot be installed to.
Sorry for the bad news.
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Cripes.
Any advice for dealing with Verizon in a case like this?
I've spent hours on the phone with them attempting to switch out this phone early (a year left), but all I hear are excessive costs for "upgrades", even after I said I'd be willing to go back to a 64gb S3.
Do you have your old phone? If not, buy one. They're dirt cheap.
Can you download samsung info from the play store and post screenshots of general and firmware tabs?
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Thank you.
Screenshot attached. I was under the impression that root was required to install apps to the sd card. The phone gives an option for moving apps, but IRL it's less than probably 5% of the space.
16gb on this phone is only 12 after bloatware... UGH
ETA: I do have a custom ROM (NOVA Launcher?) but it doesn't help in that regard.
Well it's the Verizon Samsung Galaxy S5 forum, so....
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After rooting, copy all data from the SD card to prepare to format and partition. Personally, I used Apps2SD PRO: All in one tool. It created the partitions, mounted the second to internal storage and left the balance as SD storage.
Used TB to backup app data, then deleted and restored through market to free up internal memory, then restored the data. Had no issues.
From what I've read, it seems that there is question that Link2SD may be a superior way to create the additional internal storage. Apps2SD worked for me, so I didn't do further research. YMMV.
The workaround for the S7 did not work on my phone with MM. You could list the disks, but setting the force flag and partitioning as private did not work.
Good luck.
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Cripes.
Any advice for dealing with Verizon in a case like this?
I've spent hours on the phone with them attempting to switch out this phone early (a year left), but all I hear are excessive costs for "upgrades", even after I said I'd be willing to go back to a 64gb S3.
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Buy a S6 their cheap now S7 out.
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Molon-Labe said:
Buy a S6 their cheap now S7 out.
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the s6 doesn't have external sd
S5 is gone