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How's the network speed with the device both LTE and HSDPA be interested to know how it handles on UK network
thering1975 said:
How's the network speed with the device both LTE and HSDPA be interested to know how it handles on UK network
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I will let you know tomorrow after had a bit of time to test. I don't have 4G so can't comment on that though.
No probs on 4g rarely use that my galaxy mega pulls 20mb down on HSDPA in London which us faster than the 4g just wanna know how you think it is compared to your previous phone
Also how's emotionui only thing holding me back is wheter its any good. Root would be nice but I guess that will come
Honestly emui so much better than touchwizz or lg ui its crazy. Ignore these reviews from companies that need to.make revenue from the big players. Trust me I had m7 , lgg3 and many sammy units plus nokias and currently still have z2 out of all of them this ui is great. When you get it you will feel the same. If I thought it was crap I would just keep my z2 but I am selling it and keeping this. The ui is a mix betweeen lg and sammy. More lg but with some iphone touchs
Check my camera samples also http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2940664
What is the version they sell?
Amazon uk now selling it Huawei Ascend Mate7 - Android Phone - GSM / UMTS by Huawei Deutschland http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00NEEXACE/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_mXUCub0BXPHSE
No 4G then?
Just asked seller Expoitalyweb:
" Are you 100% sure it supports lte fdd band 3, 7 and 20?"
Thats what I got for an answer...:
"The connectivity is: Wi-Fi: 802.11 a/b/g/n (WiFi Direct, WiFi WPS) Bluetooth: 4.0 USB 2.0 HS. For more technical details can be found at Huawei website directly. Best regards"
Clearly doesn't want this question to be asked..
This is my model from Amazon.fr using it on EE but have no 4G on my plan. I will check with wife's sim which is EE and 4g sim yo see if it works.
If that's L09 version than it shpould support LTE FDD Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/20/28. Let us know once you check with your wife's card, ok?
Here is confirmation for anyone wonder if the Galaxy S6 unlocked from ATT or Tmoibile will work on Verizon just like the iPhones 6 6+ or Nexus 6
I have both ATT and Tmobile Galaxy S6 in hands, unlocked, inserted Verizon sim card in and there is no signal
However, when I check "About Device" it shows my phone number
Mobile Network Type: LTE
Service State: Out of Service
and LTE came up for a second and never came back on
I think they blocked the LTE bands or so to stop people unlock their phones using on another carrier
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Here is confirmation for anyone wonder if the Galaxy S6 unlocked from ATT or Tmoibile will work on Verizon just like the iPhones 6 6+ or Nexus 6
I have both ATT and Tmobile Galaxy S6 in hands, unlocked, inserted Verizon sim card in and there is no signal
However, when I check "About Device" it shows my phone number
Mobile Network Type: LTE
Service State: Out of Service
and LTE came up for a second and never came back on
I think they blocked the LTE bands or so to stop people unlock their phones using on another carrier
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My guess is the AT&T and T-Mobile variants don't have CDMA radios.
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Here is confirmation for anyone wonder if the Galaxy S6 unlocked from ATT or Tmoibile will work on Verizon just like the iPhones 6 6+ or Nexus 6
I have both ATT and Tmobile Galaxy S6 in hands, unlocked, inserted Verizon sim card in and there is no signal
However, when I check "About Device" it shows my phone number
Mobile Network Type: LTE
Service State: Out of Service
and LTE came up for a second and never came back on
I think they blocked the LTE bands or so to stop people unlock their phones using on another carrier
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They didn't block the bands. According to pdadb, the 920A and 920T don't have CDMA.
Unlocking att s6
Hi was it easy to get the att version unlocked from a 3rd party website or did you get it unlocked from ATT?
thats why i prefer buying unlocked phones from Amazon and use on any network on my choice. i wonder if this locking phones is cant be investigated for being anti competitive or messing with our rights somehow
zboy2 said:
Hi was it easy to get the att version unlocked from a 3rd party website or did you get it unlocked from ATT?
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musakilimanjaro said:
thats why i prefer buying unlocked phones from Amazon and use on any network on my choice. i wonder if this locking phones is cant be investigated for being anti competitive or messing with our rights somehow
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You guys are confusing "unlocked" terms. There's a carrier unlock and a bootloader unlock. VZW phones are carrier unlocked and work on any network as long as the radio has the proper frequency support. But VZW phones are bootloader locked, meaning you can't flash unsigned packages to the device i..e. no root yet.
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hi was it easy to get the att s6 unlocked. Thanks.
Mostly correct except root does not necessarily depend on unlocked bootloader, which you somewhat implied by the end of your statement.
I'm thinking about purchasing a unlocked Sprint Galaxy S6 on craigslist and bringing it to Verizon. Does anyone know if this will work?
Thanks
~Tom
I want the S6 but not if the bootloader is locked. I know that Verizon and ATT are the two carriers who will lock the bootloader. I'm not sure if a T-Mobile line would work due to their using GSM rather than CDMA, but doesn't Sprint use CDMA? Would we be able to purchase a Sprint variant that doesn't have a locked bootloader and then use that phone on Verizon?
Would a Vzw version work on GSM carriers including LTE? I am thinking of buying one off contract for the wife, but want it to be able to go to a cheaper prepaid service later once our contract expires.
t mobile phone on Verizon network
Would the T mobile S6 work with Verizon LTE data only? Did you try to surf the Internet?
Will a Verizon S6 work on T-Mobile? LTE as well?
It should work fine but be aware that VZW uses different LTE bands than TMO. VZW uses Bands 13/4 with 13 as Primary and TMO uses primarily Band 4 but will enable band 12 soon.
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My guess is the AT&T and T-Mobile variants don't have CDMA radios.
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Well, when carriers started putting up powers that supported LTE, the phone manufacturers were releasing phones that supported CDMA and LTE because LTE wasn't widespread enough to get an LTE signal. CDMA technology will eventually be replaced by LTE. Qualcomm owns all the parents for CDMA, so whenever anyone makes a call using CDMA, QCOM collects their revenue checks, which used to represent 51% of total revenues. It's cheaper for the carriers to run LTE because QCOM doesn't own the entire technology and they won't have to pay the royalties to QCOM for using their technology (kind of like using H.265 vs VP9 for 4K video compression. Royalties using the older H.265 compression maxed out at $5 million a year. H. 265 maxes out at $25 million vs Google's VP9 free open-source technology for video compression.
Once enough towers are up that support LTE, handsets won't come with the availability to use CDMA technology anymore. Next thing we'll see are cable providers putting up hotspot all around the city (I've already seen it with Comcast, but this could really hurt the phone companies since people won't even be using LTE anymore, just like when people had to use much slower data connections in rural areas on their cell phones because they didn't have towers. VOIP will also hurt the carriers.
So, to answer that, I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't built to support CDMA anymore. These balloons that just started being launched by Google to provide Internet access to everyone in the world will be interesting to see how functional it is. It would be nice top have a high speed connection anywhere in the world.
Sprint and Verizon uses CDMA while AT&T and T-Mobile uses GSM. So trying to use an unlocked S6 for Verizon won't work since unlocked versions are usually GSM. So nope.
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Here is confirmation for anyone wonder if the Galaxy S6 unlocked from ATT or Tmoibile will work on Verizon just like the iPhones 6 6+ or Nexus 6
I have both ATT and Tmobile Galaxy S6 in hands, unlocked, inserted Verizon sim card in and there is no signal
However, when I check "About Device" it shows my phone number
Mobile Network Type: LTE
Service State: Out of Service
and LTE came up for a second and never came back on
I think they blocked the LTE bands or so to stop people unlock their phones using on another carrier
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I had the exact same problem with my one plus one. I'm 99% certain it's not about the bands being blocked in the phone but about verizon network non-verizon phones. The fact that you can select verizon if you search for a network means the bands are compatible.
Verizon is being evil by blocking the phones. I'm just not sure how (could be that any phone not wishlisted cannot be activated i.e. s13 interface )
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T33H00 said:
Here is confirmation for anyone wonder if the Galaxy S6 unlocked from ATT or Tmoibile will work on Verizon just like the iPhones 6 6+ or Nexus 6
I have both ATT and Tmobile Galaxy S6 in hands, unlocked, inserted Verizon sim card in and there is no signal
However, when I check "About Device" it shows my phone number
Mobile Network Type: LTE
Service State: Out of Service
and LTE came up for a second and never came back on
I think they blocked the LTE bands or so to stop people unlock their phones using on another carrier
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pembertj said:
I'm thinking about purchasing a unlocked Sprint Galaxy S6 on craigslist and bringing it to Verizon. Does anyone know if this will work?
Thanks
~Tom
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99% sure it wont work, see my post above
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Droid_Evo_8 said:
Sprint and Verizon uses CDMA while AT&T and T-Mobile uses GSM. So trying to use an unlocked S6 for Verizon won't work since unlocked versions are usually GSM. So nope.
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Welcome to 2007 or 08...
phone has lte and is trying to connect to an lte network
SDRebel said:
I had the exact same problem with my one plus one. I'm 99% certain it's not about the bands being blocked in the phone but about verizon network non-verizon phones. The fact that you can select verizon if you search for a network means the bands are compatible.
Verizon is being evil by blocking the phones. I'm just not sure how (could be that any phone not wishlisted cannot be activated i.e. s13 interface )
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Problem is Verizon whitelists all IMEIs for phones that they'll "support." Even if you get it working, it 1) doesn't have CDMA, so you can't make calls unless you're strictly in VoLTE areas, and 2) you won't be able to make any plan changes or get a M2M discount since the phone would be a "Non-VZW Device."
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Welcome to 2007 or 08...
phone has lte and is trying to connect to an lte network
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Oh yeah? Well then, how do you explain how come my Verizon S5 didn't work on T-Mobile when we tried it, huh?
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Sprint and Verizon uses CDMA while AT&T and T-Mobile uses GSM. So trying to use an unlocked S6 for Verizon won't work since unlocked versions are usually GSM. So nope.
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Problem is Verizon whitelists all IMEIs for phones that they'll "support." Even if you get it working, it 1) doesn't have CDMA, so you can't make calls unless you're strictly in VoLTE areas, and 2) you won't be able to make any plan changes or get a M2M discount since the phone would be a "Non-VZW Device."
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Right, that's been my speculation for a while, but i have no inside info. Whitelisting every device would be a major PITA though...unless they bulk-whitelist then using data from the manufacturers. ..that also doesnt explain why people report being able to bring an iphone 6 or a nexus 6 over from other nwtworks (not sure if rhey have only gotten lte working and not the cdma part)
I do know the cdma functionality wouldn't be available, but tthe discussion was more along the lines of why it attached to lte ans then nothing.
The strange part is that both OP and I saw LTE eveb if for a split second. ..i would expect N attach reject if it's due to the Whitelisting.
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Oh yeah? Well then, how do you explain how come my Verizon S5 didn't work on T-Mobile when we tried it, huh?
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The most likely reason is that you did something wrong. I have personally used verizon s3, verizon s4 and htc rezound in tmobile and other gsm networks. (I will test my s6 soon for t-mobile and cricket)
it's well known that most verizon lte phones are unlocked and have gsm functionality.
My most logical guess is that you didn't set up something like the APN.
Your anecdotal experience does not a rule make. (most common fallacy i see in real life: it didnt work for me so it doesnt work!)
I currently have the Z3Compact and am considering getting the Z3 T-Mobile variant, as I'm a T-Mo prepaid customer. Just a few questions:
1) Can the Tmo variant Z3 be used on another carrier? Without unlocking the bootloader? I would like to root without unlocking the bootloader to still use all the Sony features (like with the Z3C). If I switch to another GSM carrier in a year, I'd like to still be able to use this device.
2) Is VoLTE up & working? Can it be used while rooted, locked bootloader? The same question with wifi calling.
3) Can the Tmobile ROM / Firmware be flashed on the International hardware and function exactly the same?
4) Will / can VoLTE / wifi calling come to the Z3C unlocked international variant?
1. Yes you can use it, BUT it only has 3 LTE bands and the 700Mhz (Band 12) LTE is not compatible with AT&T 700Mhz (Band 13). 700Mhz is important for indoor reception. Better to buy the regular Z3 as its a more global phone. Also if you still want the TMO variant you must use it on TMO for at least 40 days for them to unlock.
2. VoLTE works and rooting does not have anything to do with it so go ahead. WiFi calling is the same.
3. Don't do that as you may get no signal/baseband issues.
4. Don't know.
Extra: The T-Mobile variant has quality control issues and has been pulled from sale.... I am on my 8th Z3 after 7 exchanges. In addition TMO had to open a further 3-4 boxes on my third exchange to get a good one.
Just buy the international version..... They don't seem to be problematic like the TMO version and are LTE compatible with more networks.
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1. Yes you can use it, BUT it only has 3 LTE bands and the 700Mhz (Band 12) LTE is not compatible with AT&T 700Mhz (Band 13). 700Mhz is important for indoor reception. Better to buy the regular Z3 as its a more global phone. Also if you still want the TMO variant you must use it on TMO for at least 40 days for them to unlock.
2. VoLTE works and rooting does not have anything to do with it so go ahead. WiFi calling is the same.
3. Don't do that as you may get no signal/baseband issues.
4. Don't know.
Extra: The T-Mobile variant has quality control issues and has been pulled from sale.... I am on my 8th Z3 after 7 exchanges. In addition TMO had to open a further 3-4 boxes on my third exchange to get a good one.
Just buy the international version..... They don't seem to be problematic like the TMO version and are LTE compatible with more networks.
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1) If I only plan to use the phone in the US is it important that the international version is more 'global'? I'm kind of confused: Does the Tmobile version omit bands, or includes all the bands the int'l version plus band 12 / 700Mhz?
If you want to use it on AT&T the 700 Mhz band is not compatible. As you can see below the TMO variant is missing the 2 low bands needed by AT&T for better indoor reception. The global Z3 supports all the AT&T bands except T-Mobile's Band 12....
AT&T LTE Bands
17(700Mhz), Band 5(850Mhz), Band 2(1900Mhz), Band 4(1700/2100Mhz)
T-Mobile LTE Bands (TMO Z3 only supports these 3 bands)
Band 2(1900Mhz), Band 4(1700/2100Mhz), Band 12 (700Mhz)
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If you want to use it on AT&T the 700 Mhz band is not compatible. As you can see below the TMO variant is missing the 2 low bands needed by AT&T for better indoor reception. The global Z3 supports all the bands except T-Mobile's Band 12....
AT&T LTE Bands
17(700Mhz), Band 5(850Mhz), Band 2(1900Mhz), Band 4(1700/2100Mhz)
T-Mobile LTE Bands
Band 2(1900Mhz), Band 4(1700/2100Mhz), Band 12 (700Mhz)
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Thanks for clearing that up for me. I remember before buying my z3C hearing the info from GSMArena was inaccurate for one of the models.
I'm going to see if i can find more info on the quality control issues with the Tmo variant. I've owned Tmo branded versions of phones before and never had an issue.
I replace my phone every year to 18 months so if for some desperate reason I go to AT&T at least it will work in the meantime. I use Google Voice / Hangouts for calls so if I travel internationally I'd use wifi if the LTE reception isn't as good as on an international device for calls (won't use VoLTE), but since I'm in a Tmobile band 12 area I would like to use that.
Found this post on using the Tmo with AT&T: http://www.reddit.com/r/SonyXperia/comments/338q7q/help_with_tmobile_z3_on_att/
The issue is not with T-Mobile, its the variant Sony made for T-Mobile.... When a carrier itself stops selling a device due to problems you are taking a big risk. T-Mobile was good about exchanges though immediate replacements unlike Sony which can take up to 3 weeks. Remember if you want exchanges for any issues with TMO you must buy from TMO itself otherwise you deal with Sony. Considering TMO no longer sells this device TMO won't cover you..... As you will be buying from a third party.
So I strongly suggest you get the international Z3, unless you can buy the TMO variant from TMO itself so you can get replacements easily.
Whatever you decide I hope you enjoy, its a good phone, battery life and screen are amazing.
Thanks for your advice. I bought a Z3 off eBay for cheaper than I got my Z3Compact for a few weeks ago. I've never had to return or repair a smartphone so hopefully I stay lucky.
Well, I hope so too. Enjoy the device, its still the most well rounded device out there despite the release of the new gen phones.
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Well, I hope so too. Enjoy the device, its still the most well rounded device out there despite the release of the new gen phones.
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Yea, I noticed that when I bought my Z3C. The Z3 apparently outperforms the Z3+. My only concern is if I can truly get used to the larger form factor, as I'm passing along my Z3C to someone else as a birthday gift. If not, I'll just sell it and get another Z3C for myself .
I asked this in the D6616 rooting thread but haven't gotten a reply yet: Will I need to downgrade, then root, then flash a pre rooted TFT firmware to get stock rooted (similar process to rooting without unlocking bootloader on the Compact) or can I just use the instructions here regardless of the firmware I have on my Z3? I think Kingroot sounds too shady and wouldn't want to use it.
Planning on getting the Z5 when it comes out, and switching to T-Mobile. I have been hearing recently that some Band 12 LTE phones, which the Z5 is part of, supports the data transfer, but not VoLTE to make calls. This is a reasonably big deal cause the phone doesn't switch to HSPA or GSM to make the call, for some technical reason.
Nothing in the white paper says it does, and google doesn't pull up any relevant results, so just wondering if anyone here knew
thanks!
the links below are for reading about T-Mobile and their B12 VoLTE issues
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...2-lte-support-from-some-unlocked-smartphones/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...cked-smartphones-and-yep-its-still-confusing/
Planning on getting the Z5 when it comes out, and switching to T-Mobile. I have been hearing recently that some Band 12 LTE phones, which the Z5 is part of, supports the data transfer, but not VoLTE to make calls. This is a reasonably big deal cause the phone doesn't switch to HSPA or GSM to make the call, for some technical reason.
Nothing in the white paper says it does, and google doesn't pull up any relevant results, so just wondering if anyone here knew
thanks!
the links below are for reading about T-Mobile and their B12 VoLTE issues
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/08...d-smartphones/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/08...ill-confusing/
In the same boat here. I reached out to a sales engineer @ T-Mobile to ask about this (perk of having an account rep through our business account). Nobody internally at T-Mo knew offhand, but they were going to reach out to contacts they have at Sony to see if they can get me an answer. I'm hoping I get good news - or any news actually.
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So in doing a little more research I ran across this older post from Sony Developer World about their initial VoLTE testing in 2013.
http://developer.sonymobile.com/2013/02/27/sony-demos-volte-telecom-grade-voip-over-lte-video/
What's of particular interest in the most recent reply in the comments section from the post stating all phones starting with the Z2 are VoLTE-capable. It's encouraging at the very least.
Direct link to his comment: http://developer.sonymobile.com/201...ecom-grade-voip-over-lte-video/#comment-16198
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In the same boat here. I reached out to a sales engineer @ T-Mobile to ask about this (perk of having an account rep through our business account). Nobody internally at T-Mo knew offhand, but they were going to reach out to contacts they have at Sony to see if they can get me an answer. I'm hoping I get good news - or any news actually.
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So in doing a little more research I ran across this older post from Sony Developer World about their initial VoLTE testing in 2013.
http://developer.sonymobile.com/2013/02/27/sony-demos-volte-telecom-grade-voip-over-lte-video/
What's of particular interest in the most recent reply in the comments section from the post stating all phones starting with the Z2 are VoLTE-capable. It's encouraging at the very least.
Direct link to his comment: http://developer.sonymobile.com/201...ecom-grade-voip-over-lte-video/#comment-16198
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aaah, that's very interesting indeed, especially the point about VoLTE capable. it will be interesting to find out if Sony is one of the carriers that will go through T-Mobile's certification process for unlocked phones. Although, it doesnt really matter to me anymore cause I decided to get an S6 because finances are a bit tied up
According to my T-Mobile rep who spoke to their Sony rep, the Z5 (series) is VoLTE capable, assuming also it means that it's compatible with their network. At least you'd hope that would be a conversation point from T-Mobile to Sony asking about a phone to be used on their network.
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According to my T-Mobile rep who spoke to their Sony rep, the Z5 (series) is VoLTE capable, assuming also it means that it's compatible with their network. At least you'd hope that would be a conversation point from T-Mobile to Sony asking about a phone to be used on their network.
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how interesting. the phone definitely supports all the bands tmobile uses, apart from AWS HSPA. now i suppose the question is whether sony is willing to put the z5 series through tmo's VoLTE certification process.
I hope that is the case too. The Z3+ was VoLTE capable, but it didn't work with tmobile, so b12 didn't work. We don't need AWS HSPA (GSM band 4) though. Tmobile moved almost all of the HSPA over to the 1900mhz band. I think that's GSM band 2?
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I hope that is the case too. The Z3+ was VoLTE capable, but it didn't work with tmobile, so b12 didn't work. We don't need AWS HSPA (GSM band 4) though. Tmobile moved almost all of the HSPA over to the 1900mhz band. I think that's GSM band 2?
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Interesting. Did you have the Z3+ and try to use the phone in a T-Mobile B12 coverage area? And yes LTE Band 2 is 1900MHz.
Sounds like if I buy the Z5, or the Compact more specifically, I'll at least get the same coverage as I have now and hopefully VoLTE B12 coverage too in the near future?
Any news on this?
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Any news on this?
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Doesn't look like it does. No option to switch it on like on ZTE Axon and now that I actually have LTE it always switches to H/H+ when receiving/making calls. AT&T only, not sure about T-Mobile.
Before looking up what is VoLTE, all I can say is that my Z5 shows its icon in the statusbar.
My Z5 picks up Band 12 in NJ and in the subway in NYC, when I make a call it switches to hspa, so I don't really care about volte
There is an option.
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There is an option.
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Are you on a carrier specific firmware outside of the US?
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Are you on a carrier specific firmware outside of the US?
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No. Carrier free version from Europe. E6653. Im in Argentina.
Same here , Z5 Premium - phone switches to HSPA+ on a call, while iPhone works on VoLTE. Sucks! Calls go through much faster on VoLTE
Yeah I drop the H+ from LTE also on a call. I like my LG V10 can do that, but don't talk on the phone much (so don't use the HD Voice) and almost never surf the web while talking (so H+ is fine for now).
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Yeah I drop the H+ from LTE also on a call. I like my LG V10 can do that, but don't talk on the phone much (so don't use the HD Voice) and almost never surf the web while talking (so H+ is fine for now).
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If you're on AT&T or T-Mobile you can still surf and talk even if you drop down to H+ during a call.
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If you're on AT&T or T-Mobile you can still surf and talk even if you drop down to H+ during a call.
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Yep I know, was just saying that the lack of VoLTE isn't an issue for me and my usage
dunno what VOLTE is but my 6653 Z5 has it in quick setting when editing it you can find it
Hey everyone,
the new Zenfone 6 is amazing, besides the FlipCamera it has nearly everything (big battery, microSD, 3,5 mm headphone,...).
Just one thing irritates me: there are three Versions A, B and C, as one can see here under "Network Standard"
https://www.asus.com/Phone/ZenFone-6-ZS630KL/Tech-Specs/
So can someone tell me what that means? Like if I get the European version A (with Band 20), will I than for instance not be able to use it in the USA for telephone / SMS?! Or just not LTE / can I still use it like on UMTS? No LTE at all or just not certain carriers?
Hope someone can make it clear to me, thanks in advance
You'll be able to use it anywhere, it's just there's slightly less band coverage, so some networks in some countries would be nixed.
See Kimovil.com for network compatibility.
Gearbest currently have the 6GB / 64GB Version C (most bands) for €495.
It means you'll have to be sure to verify you get the version with the bands needed for your particular carrier. You have to be very careful and verify before buying as it seems with the ZenFone 5Z, for example, sellers don't always properly clarify which version they're selling.
You need to find out which of the main bands your phone carrier uses then match them up to one of the versions. I use AT&T prepaid, so for for example I need a phone with coverage for bands 2,4,5,8, and 17 if I recall correctly.
If some bands aren't covered you won't have LTE in that area, as not all areas you're in are using the same network frequency bands. Therefore coverage can get worse when you travel with a phone without full band support.
Checked out the bands available on the Asus site you linked (thank you very much BTW) and it seems they are missing bands 66(extension of band 4) & 71 (600mhz frequency) so it seems like it may work okay on TMobile.
What do you guys think if those two bands are missing? Will it be detrimental to daily use or not really? Currently on an OG Pixel and this Asus offering is looking like a future purchase!!
CDMA (Sprint or Verizon) compatiblity in the US?
Stanto said:
CDMA (Sprint or Verizon) compatiblity in the US?
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Looks like the C variants might work for you but double check the bands for your carrier Kimovil.com.
mudnightoil said:
See Kimovil.com for network compatibility.
Gearbest currently have the 6GB / 64GB Version C (most bands) for €495.
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Thanks for the hint.
I need Band 20 (O2 Germany), so I can only use Version A (so no B or C for me).
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I just checked: T-Online and Vodafone use Band 20 and 32 (in Germany), but none of the three versions support both.
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If some bands aren't covered you won't have LTE in that area, as not all areas you're in are using the same network frequency bands. Therefore coverage can get worse when you travel with a phone without full band support.
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Ok, but does it mean I will at least have telephone and SMS in those areas, where the LTE band won't be supported?!
JJ111 said:
Ok, but does it mean I will at least have telephone and SMS in those areas, where the LTE band won't be supported?!
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Yes, as long at the other bands are supported (which they should be) it will drop to 3G/4G or whatever. That's why people using some Chinese phones for example in the USA can use everything but LTE.
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need to check however about VoLTE, I think. I don't have T-Mobile but you should read more about that as I've seen it mentioned in XDA & other places.
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> Gearbest currently have the 6GB / 64GB Version C (most bands) for €495
I only see the A version there. Where did you find the C version?
This device just hit my radar... looks like we might have an upgrade winner!
For Tmobile US, C model is the way to go. The two highest bands that are missing with this device would get you better signal indoors / less interference, but I am not sure how far along that tech even is.
charlatan01 said:
The two highest bands that are missing with this device would get you better signal indoors / less interference, but I am not sure how far along that tech even is.
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By highest bands do you mean 66 and 71? The only phones that use band 71 at the moment are Samsung s8 Active and LG V30. I currently have an OG Pixel and it does not use 66 or 71 and I get great coverage in the East coast even when going north into the mountains.
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By highest bands do you mean 66 and 71? The only phones that use band 71 at the moment are Samsung s8 Active and LG V30. I currently have an OG Pixel and it does not use 66 or 71 and I get great coverage in the East coast even when going north into the mountains.
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Yep, those are the two. Those two are still relatively new, and general Tmo coverage continues to improve here in Colorado.
I imagine that once the phone is sold on the asus.com website that particular variant will support all the main carriers LTE bands. I would be surprised if there were any major issues with that otherwise what's the point of even selling it in the USA?
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I imagine that once the phone is sold on the asus.com website that particular variant will support all the main carriers LTE bands.
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Yes, for example in the case of the 5Z I just ordered (to get me by since I desperately need a phone with a better camera & no OLED to cause eye strain) the bands listed for phones at the Asus USA online store cover AT&T properly and to the best of my knowledge T-Mobile as well.
I figured out that they don't list phones there that aren't USA network compatible. I still check, regardless, just to feel 100% sure but that's what I found.
It's the 3rd party sellers you really need to be careful about and always verify.
The OnePlus 7 pro has bands 66 and 71.
This probably would have been my first choice until I noticed the different versions. With more and more manufacturers choosing to release single, global bands phones, I really don't understand why Asus insist on continuing to release regional versions of their phones.
Back in the days when everyone made regional models, I had the Padfone Infinity 2 and it was a great phone (until a late OTA release have it the new ZenUI, which was promptly removed). After reading that the latest ZenUI 6 has been slimmed down to an almost stock Android experience, I thought it might once again be similar to what Asus provided before ZenUI came along and that I can now once again consider Asus phones. Wrong!
I spend time in both Europe and Asia and there is no version that covers both areas major LTE bands. So Asus will have to remain on the list of phones to ignore.
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This probably would have been my first choice until I noticed the different versions. With more and more manufacturers choosing to release single, global bands phones, I really don't understand why Asus insist on continuing to release regional versions of their phones.
Back in the days when everyone made regional models, I had the Padfone Infinity 2 and it was a great phone (until a late OTA release have it the new ZenUI, which was promptly removed). After reading that the latest ZenUI 6 has been slimmed down to an almost stock Android experience, I thought it might once again be similar to what Asus provided before ZenUI came along and that I can now once again consider Asus phones. Wrong!
I spend time in both Europe and Asia and there is no version that covers both areas major LTE bands. So Asus will have to remain on the list of phones to ignore.
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I'm in the same position. The C version covers everything I need except for Band 20 which is a necessity throughout Europe. The A version has Bamd 20 but won't work on US LTE. They did the same thing with the Zenfone 2 and inexplicably mixed up the bands regionally. I'll stick with my NexS for now but keep an eye on this phone in case the Limited edition they usually release solves the problem.
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The OnePlus 7 pro has bands 66 and 71.
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I don't want the OP7. This isn't the OP7 forum.