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I want to start of by saying I mean no disrespect to all the devs/cooks here. I appreciate and love all of their hard work.
Now, after flashing countless amounts of roms/kernels and always having some type of problems like GPS, small mms, random force closes, etc. I went back to complelty stock and wow... My phone is smoother than I ever remembered. My data speeds seem a little faster and GPS locks on faster than ever. Battery life is a LITTLE worse than custom roms but I figure I spend less trying with the screen on trying to get stuff to work so it evens out.
Well I just thought I would share my experience. If you are like me ALWAYS trying to find the perfect Rom/kernel combo that just works, then try stock one more time. It just might surprise you
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Been reading alot about the whole process of rooting and flashing over the last few days, and I must say I join your conclusion somehow. Instead of seaching for minor improvement that sometimes set you back in other fields, why not just use the Stock options that the producer can stand by.
Even so I can totally understand the willingness to try and make a product better, and understanding it in the best possible way. That beeing said, I hope they still continue the great work with making custom roms to further push the limits of our device.
Hansge.
If you're happy with the factory ROM, then a custom one isn't necessarily better. One of the things I like about Android though is the freedom to use my phone the way I want to, and that includes custom ROMs if one better suits my requirements. It's all about choice.
most people simply want to remove the BLOAT that comes with stock roms so basically once you receive the opportunity to root you simply freeze the BLOAT with titanium backup and keep the stock rom. I personally like AOSP and most phones don't come with AOSP out of the box unless it's a Nexus so I always end up flashing a custom rom. But I can say that I was running CM7 on my Sensation and became sick of the browser freezes and I went back to stock for a few days and LOVED it eventhough I hate HTC Sense LOL it was just nice to have a phone in which EVERYTHING worked as
it was intended
I personally think a custom kernel has more influence on daily use then custom rom. The differnce between zram and no zram where huge for me on gingerbread.
Custom isn't for everyone
The stock ROMs are usually the best option for most users. Pretty much the same as any custom vs. stock situation. My co-worker is using a ROM that blocks all data usage except from the browser. He loves it. His battery lasts two days without effort and he doesn't miss a thing. Personally, I'd go nuts if that was the stock ROM, but it is good for him.
Have to agree that it's really about choice.
If the missing features are ones you never use then you haven't really lost anything.
I had my Sensation running on a custom ROM within hours of buying it and I've never looked back (though that may be to my disadvantage since I have no point of comparison).
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The stock ROMs are usually the best option for most users. Pretty much the same as any custom vs. stock situation. My co-worker is using a ROM that blocks all data usage except from the browser. He loves it. His battery lasts two days without effort and he doesn't miss a thing. Personally, I'd go nuts if that was the stock ROM, but it is good for him.
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You could create a situation like that by rooting and setting up DroidWall.
I too agree with RestInPieces209.
Really love what the cookers here on xda are doing though!
Tried several custom roms and there always were a couple functions that weren't working properly. Now, since one week back on stock and S-on, most stable and complete rom there is. Eagerly waiting for ICS
if it wasnt for these roms... i would get to damn bored of my phone really quickly... would spend a lot of money buying a new phone as soon as im bored with it..
I can bare the small errors i get, fc etc.. as soon as its up to date, new improvements both visually and functionality. i mean, i got beats on my sensation (non XE) it looks good to have, but also better sound. I got original 1.5Ghz dual core instead of downclocked (by HTC) 1.2GHz... i still got approx 30-40hrs of battery. and thats good!
i can only praise custom roms! thanks devs!
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HTC arent dumbasses themselfs - they know how to make a great phone. they make phones they think as many as possible would like - with all their criteria; stability, good battery, performance etc. By trying to fullfill everyones wishes, somethings are being sacrificed ( such as 1.5GHz for better battery).
Thats why custom roms exists, so you can adapt the phone to your needs...
I would agree with the OP so far in terms of my Sensation, but my previous phone (ZTE Blade) was MASSIVELY improved with custom ROMs.
Some people are obsessed with perpetually messing about with their toys, regardless of the benefits/hassles. Almost always men.
Also, I guess that as phones (fancy ones such as the Sensation) get fancier and faster, so the law of diminishing returns applies regarding tweaks.
It boils down to preference really. Installing roms from other phones or customized ones so you can enjoy the full experience of your phone is just a choice. Like I the stock rom on the Sensation but then they came out with the Sensation XE with beats audio and I love to listen quality music. So then that rom was perfect for me.. My .02 cents.
championadam said:
I would agree with the OP so far in terms of my Sensation, but my previous phone (ZTE Blade) was MASSIVELY improved with custom ROMs.
Some people are obsessed with perpetually messing about with their toys, regardless of the benefits/hassles. Almost always men.
Also, I guess that as phones (fancy ones such as the Sensation) get fancier and faster, so the law of diminishing returns applies regarding tweaks.
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I agree. My old phones like the og droid, Eris, D2 global, etc were all improved with roms. But htc did a really good job on the sensation. After flashing the stock Rom and installing 2 ota updates that they have released it is smooth as butter. Even texting this message on my phone seems faster and more accurate than I ever remember.
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Not to mention the legendary HD2... From boring windows 6.5 to android to windows 7.5 mango... That's when I got hooked
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It honestly boils down to pure preference. Specifically for the Sensation, most people like custom ROMS because they hate HTC Sense. So they are willing to deal with FC's and less stable ROMS just so they can never see Sense again
Since I cannot stand the sense ui yes, custom romd are better. I have no issues with cyanogen mod. I suppose I could always use stock rooted and a custom launcher though.
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Custom ROMS are basically for people that want something different on their phone. Stock ROMS are reliable, stable, and provide default phone usage. On the other hand, stock ROMS (depending on what the developer has done to it) can change the way things looks, are, feel, and work. Some also have the capability to make your battery life last longer than the stock ROM. Custom ROMS are better or suck compared to stock ROMS in their own ways. It's just up to you, to decide which ROM fits your needs and expectations. Developers have this thing called a changelog that lists EVERYTHING that they have tweaked, changed, or improved since they created the ROM. It's best to look at and read it, to see if you like what they did to it/changed, or what it makes your phone capable to do. To me, it's all about what you REALLY want on your phone and all about researching the custom ROMS.
Hope I helped even a little. PEACE!
I've been using AndroidRevolution ever since I've bought the phone and I want to change over to something new.
Any suggestions? Having no sense doesn't bother me since I feel it chews a lot of memory on the phone.
Not sure what other roms are popular on the sensation
Johnny-Kun said:
I've been using AndroidRevolution ever since I've bought the phone and I want to change over to something new.
Any suggestions? Having no sense doesn't bother me since I feel it chews a lot of memory on the phone.
Not sure what other roms are popular on the sensation
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Hi,
Go HERE
Look for a thread that starts with [ROM] ,then check the views and replies...
RC1 of the cyanogenmod 9 is just released for the sensation. If you don't want sense and ice cream sandwich I would reccomend to use that one
The Best ROM I ever tried is Aokp eye candy it lives up to its name! Its different. It has tons of customization you can do! It even has ROM control. You can set your cpu profiles and even adjust colors! It comes with the newest beats where you can set profiles for the sound too! Other roms come with beats but I was never able to set profiles or adjust it infact I never even saw anything to do with beats other than a splash screen. This ROM is really different. Looks different, behaves different, is different. only thing I didn't like was the keyboard so I switches it out with a swipe keyboard from playstore. I really like swipe. Problem solved. This ROM is beautiful down to the phone dialer, to incomming calls expect something different! I feel in love with Aokp the first time I used it. Everyone is different and thats why there are different Roms to
Fit different tastes so try a few out and see what you like. But give this a try for sure and see for yourself what im talking about. i do think its a wonderfully different beautifully custom Rom. But you need to try several out and find what's right for you! Best of luck. Its best to try many so you can expirence different things. They all are great, its a matter of personal taste. Happy flashing and do give aokp eye candy a try. Its truely amazing! It took me awhile before I tried it and I wish I found it sooner! Just updated last night to the newest version 2.6. All I can say is its awesome! Find the ROM that suits you. Again please try out several so you can see what's avaiable. Also its sense less! Aroma installer,and the customization is incredible you really have to try it! I think you will love it! I know I do!
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Yet another thread which has resorted to comparing ROM's. how many times do you guys need to hear it from devs, DONT compare roms, it is rude and offensive to devs.
To the OP, the only advise I will give is this, the only way which you will find the best ROM for you is to try them yourself because whats best for someone else might not be best for you, so experiment and try out different ROM's and see which one you like best.
Bought my 10 year old this tablet last year for Xmas and it's laggy as all get out IMO. Love my android phones and will never switch, but I also love by iPad /gasp!
I am wondering if unlocking and rom'ing this thing will really make enough difference.
I have rooted and rom'ed every phone I have ever had, but I also use them daily so I get to play around with roms and figure out whats stable and works really well. I am also a little nervous about this thing, so many instructions and various ways to do things depending on which update your on.
The tab is 4.2.1 10.6.1.24.5
Any opinions on this and/or suggestions on what roms to try out if I go for it?
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Bought my 10 year old this tablet last year for Xmas and it's laggy as all get out IMO. Love my android phones and will never switch, but I also love by iPad /gasp!
I am wondering if unlocking and rom'ing this thing will really make enough difference.
I have rooted and rom'ed every phone I have ever had, but I also use them daily so I get to play around with roms and figure out whats stable and works really well. I am also a little nervous about this thing, so many instructions and various ways to do things depending on which update your on.
The tab is 4.2.1 10.6.1.24.5
Any opinions on this and/or suggestions on what roms to try out if I go for it?
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Unlocking and flashing custom ROMs is a major improvement over stock. If you want stability and performance, CROMi. If you want performance and cutting edge, CM or another KK ROM.
Just be careful about what to flash and always ask questions is there is any doubt.
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Unlocking and flashing custom ROMs is a major improvement over stock. If you want stability and performance, CROMi. If you want performance and cutting edge, CM or another KK ROM.
Just be careful about what to flash and always ask questions is there is any doubt.
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Thanks, think I will check it out. Wish there was a path back to stock though.
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Thanks, think I will check it out. Wish there was a path back to stock though.
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You can always reflash the stock ROM to go back to stock, but only if you haven't bricked your tablet.
Made a backup of the stock unrooted rom, then rooted and backed up the apps. Loaded up Cromi and all is working well. So far I cant say it's that much of an improvement, with the exception of browsing. Flash will be nice too.
Should I feel like its a huge improvement? Maybe I needed to pick a different kernel.
I know this question is really subjective. I'm coming from the Note II and have not been in this forum more than a couple of days so I'm not famililar with the developers and their work.
I'm just not sure what Rom to start with.
Speed/stability. Feature Customizations, You know, General grovieness
Stock.
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ufkal said:
I know this question is really subjective. I'm coming from the Note II and have not been in this forum more than a couple of days so I'm not famililar with the developers and their work.
I'm just not sure what Rom to start with.
Speed/stability. Feature Customizations, You know, General grovieness
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You literally described viper rom
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If you want customization, ViperROM is the way to go. It is fast and has so many options and settings it can almost be overwhelming if there were anymore things to explore in their tweaks app. Has some nice themes (although many are not fully compatible yet) as well. For a stock ROM with speed and removed bloatware, I recommend Skyfall. It has been the fastest for me as far as stock roms go. Bonestock is great as well, I just had awful battery life on it (which was my fault but was too lazy to diagnose so i crack flashed something else. Just try them all and see what you like best.
Stock. Everything works and you never have to wipe for an update.
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Viper.
Stock with xposed seems to do the trick for me
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I've flashed BoneStock and have been really happy with it honestly. I really only wanted the bloatware removed and it did a good job of that.
I haven't tried any others yet though. Stock is actually really, really nice. HTC did a fantastic job with Sense 6.0.
A second vote for Viper! This ROM has been fantastic. Performance is much improved over stock, battery consumption has been lower, and there are so much customization that can be done through Viper One's tweak configuration (including enabling Power Saver mode which Verizon took away, performing an "auto hide" of the navigation bar, adding custom themes and colors, etc.). The devs of this ROM are also VERY responsive. Be sure to make a nandroid back up using CWM or TWRP before flashing any custom ROM, so you have something to go back to if you are not happy.
Was thinking about grabbing this phone, but what about those of us coming from stock Nexus Android? I see people recommending stock, but then dont you have to deal with Sense and stuff? Or am I just missing something?
twan69666 said:
Was thinking about grabbing this phone, but what about those of us coming from stock Nexus Android? I see people recommending stock, but then dont you have to deal with Sense and stuff? Or am I just missing something?
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You can flash the Google play edition rom
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twan69666 said:
Was thinking about grabbing this phone, but what about those of us coming from stock Nexus Android? I see people recommending stock, but then dont you have to deal with Sense and stuff? Or am I just missing something?
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I've run the Stock Nexus, and LOVED IT. I also got used to Samsung's TouchWhiz, I personally like HTC's Sense. Much like ROMS, this is a personal choice. I'm sure, once I see a CM or something like that I will give it a try to check it out. Sense is not like it was a couple of years ago. It Flies. Check it out, see for your self.
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You can flash the Google play edition rom
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Yeah, Ive been looking that thread over and it looks like there's a couple of issues still. After looking that over I started browsing around here and thats how I found this thread. Funny nobody has recommended it yet though?
ufkal said:
I've run the Stock Nexus, and LOVED IT. I also got used to Samsung's TouchWhiz, I personally like HTC's Sense. Much like ROMS, this is a personal choice. I'm sure, once I see a CM or something like that I will give it a try to check it out. Sense is not like it was a couple of years ago. It Flies. Check it out, see for your self.
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Thanks
ufkal said:
I know this question is really subjective. I'm coming from the Note II and have not been in this forum more than a couple of days so I'm not famililar with the developers and their work.
I'm just not sure what Rom to start with.
Speed/stability. Feature Customizations, You know, General grovieness
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See if the stock will work fine for you. From there,you would know if you will still look for something better or new.
Dear Xda.
I've been struggling to choose between ROMAUR, Duality and Existenz N for my xperia XZ.
I deem my performance and battery life most important, I don't really care about customizations.
Which one would you guys recommend for my needs?
Thanks in advance
Cheers,
Cas.
no definitive answer - but some individual thoughts
Erayh said:
ROMAUR, Duality and Existenz N
Which one would you guys recommend for my needs?
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I can give you no personal recommendation and for me there are is not too much difference between them.
I doubt that you will notice any difference in battery life between them and stock.
Each has vocal fans.
Read the ROM threads to get a feel what might be good/bad about each ROM.
Personally I did not like the tone I read out of the ROMAUR thread.
I do not like the LOUD claims of Duality.
I had Existenz on my phone for several months and found it to be of very good quality and liked the customizations very much.
I dropped it for stock because it got a bit slow (only one great developer) in security updates and I can live without the tweaks.
Switching a ROM with proper backups will not cost you more than 5 hours.
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I can give you no personal recommendation and for me there are is not too much difference between them.
I doubt that you will notice any difference in battery life between them and stock.
Each has vocal fans.
Read the ROM threads to get a feel what might be good/bad about each ROM.
Personally I did not like the tone I read out of the ROMAUR thread.
I do not like the LOUD claims of Duality.
I had Existenz on my phone for several months and found it to be of very good quality and liked the customizations very much.
I dropped it for stock because it got a bit slow (only one great developer) in security updates and I can live without the tweaks.
Switching a ROM with proper backups will not cost you more than 5 hours.
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Just like he said. Back up in TWRP so you can always come back to a state that is fine for you. It's super easy to switch RoMs
Then there is not so many to try so make your own mind, this ain't oneplus forum with countless ROM
If your feelling it you can also add CR droid to your list for a touch of AOSP, but like above, read the thread, get a feel and try by yourself.