SOLVED Titanium backup insufficient room - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Suddenly after using TiBu for years on the same rooted nexus 5 phone, 2 weeks ago titanium backup refused to backup saying there is insufficient space. Of course there was plenty of space. I searched the Internet found advice to change the location of the backups, searching and deleting it's .odex file (which I never found or had), etc. Finally, I'm not sure what I did but it finally resolved itself and tibu is working again.
Now, the titanium backup on my wife's rooted nexus 5 running stock 4.4.4 suddenly is doing the same thing: insufficient space.
This cannot be a coincidence! 2 phones both having the identical problem with an app that has worked flawlessly for years! It has to be some update causing this.
I've searched for an .odex file to delete. She doesn't have it. I've changed the tibu default backup directory and back. No help. I don't recall what I did on my phone to fix this. Anyone know why this is happening and how to fix it?
Thanks.

SOLVED
In case others develop the same problem here's the solution.
1. You need to go into SuperSU and unselect the option for namespace separation.
2. Just doing that won't solve it. You need to follow #1 with a reboot.
That solves it.
TIBU worked for years without needing to change that supersu setting. It was the last update that created the problem both for me and I'm sure many others.
Hope this helps.

maybeme2 said:
SOLVED
In case others develop the same problem here's the solution.
1. You need to go into SuperSU and unselect the option for namespace separation.
2. Just doing that won't solve it. You need to follow #1 with a reboot.
That solves it.
TIBU worked for years without needing to change that supersu setting. It was the last update that created the problem both for me and I'm sure many others.
Hope this helps.
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ran into this but this fix didn't work

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Titanium Restore on 3.1

3g Xoom with freshly installed BRD 3.1 packages.
3.1 update went well, reinstalled Titanium to restore everything.
Restore seems to go fine, yet virtually every app that gets restored, once run will FC. Every single time.
Any ideas???
Thanks in advance!
Im not sure, but I think it has something to do with the fact that the update gave us a new android version. I dealt with the same problem last night as well. What was weird was that the only app that restored the app+data without FC probkems was Angry Birds.
Restoring the apps only (no data) worked every time though...
Reboot into recovery, Fix permissions, reboot. I had no problems at all after doing this.
When i use titanium backup i'm only showing some xoom functions, not my apps. How do i fix that? Did look for threads before posting btw.
I had this problem also. I tried restoring all my apps + data and got force closes. I uninstalled the apps and downloaded them from the market- they'd work.. Try to restore data to the newly downloaded app and again it would FC. Market doesn't recognize the apps that are replaced via Titanium Backup so I had to download them anyway just so I would be able to stay updated.
Another problem I had- Titanium no longer recognizes that I bought the pro version. I downloaded both parts (titanium free and the pro version- that's just a key...) but Titanium doesn't open all features after downloading Pro from Market. I see donate version only beside hypershell, etc...
It also takes a VERY long time to ask for root rights when starting up... Anyone else?
I will try to restore one app from Titanium and fix permissions as mentioned earlier in the thread. Here goes nothin'....
To the guy having issues finding his apps- try installing the busybox installer from jrummy16 in the market (the other one didn't work for me), install busybox 1.9 from it because the busybox that TB installs didn't work for me (and other people) and then make sure in your preferences that you have the correct folder selected for backing up. The autodetect worked for me.
EDIT: Wow! Fixing permissions solved the FC issue- now I can restore all my apps. The problem with TB not recognizing that I've downloaded Pro version remains however.
MileHighClubAV8R said:
I had this problem also. I tried restoring all my apps + data and got force closes. I uninstalled the apps and downloaded them from the market- they'd work.. Try to restore data to the newly downloaded app and again it would FC. Market doesn't recognize the apps that are replaced via Titanium Backup so I had to download them anyway just so I would be able to stay updated.
Another problem I had- Titanium no longer recognizes that I bought the pro version. I downloaded both parts (titanium free and the pro version- that's just a key...) but Titanium doesn't open all features after downloading Pro from Market. I see donate version only beside hypershell, etc...
It also takes a VERY long time to ask for root rights when starting up... Anyone else?
I will try to restore one app from Titanium and fix permissions as mentioned earlier in the thread. Here goes nothin'....
To the guy having issues finding his apps- try installing the busybox installer from jrummy16 in the market (the other one didn't work for me), install busybox 1.9 from it because the busybox that TB installs didn't work for me (and other people) and then make sure in your preferences that you have the correct folder selected for backing up. The autodetect worked for me.
EDIT: Wow! Fixing permissions solved the FC issue- now I can restore all my apps. The problem with TB not recognizing that I've downloaded Pro version remains however.
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I'm having the same issues you are having with TB. It takes a very long time to get root permissions and it will not recognize my pro key either. It says "Reboot / See checkout.google.com". I found a thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13728994&highlight=titanium#post13728994 ) that has mention of what at least one person was able to do to get it working, but it's not working for me. My busybox is v1.18.4, but it's just not working.
Fixing permissions didn't do it for me, but I appreciate the response.
It's weird- the apps and data install fine. I run the apps and they seem to load alright but within 2 or 3 seconds they always FC.
It's very odd....
Thanks for the replies folks!
Titanium has been updated. Everything works great now.

[Q] Apps wont retain their data or stay frozen after reboot

These forums have been invaluable to me. You guys amaze me. If you could help with this, I would be forever grateful.
Phone: Verizon Galaxy S3, rooted, CM10.2
Problem: I have suddenly run into a problem where only some of my apps (1) do not retain any of their data after a reboot and (2) do not stay frozen (I've tried freezing with Titanium, Lucky Patcher, Root Uninstaller Pro, etc.) after rebooting (they do keep their data and remain frozen until I power my device off). ONLY the apps I installed on or after about two weeks ago have this problem (i.e. apps installed before that do not have this problem). So basically every time I reboot my phone apps installed over the last two weeks look like I've never used them (for example, a notepad app that I used extensively before rebooting shows no notes).
Solutions Attempted (without success obviously):
1.) Uninstalling problematic apps, rebooting phone and reintalling
2.) Doing a full factory reset via CWM recovery, wiping all caches, and restoring a nandroid backup that was taken before this problem arose.
Question: Is there anything that I can do to resolve this problem or do I need to get a new phone?
Thanks,
Jenna
hls13bro said:
These forums have been invaluable to me. You guys amaze me. If you could help with this, I would be forever grateful.
Phone: Verizon Galaxy S3, rooted, CM10.2
Problem: I have suddenly run into a problem where only some of my apps (1) do not retain any of their data after a reboot and (2) do not stay frozen (I've tried freezing with Titanium, Lucky Patcher, Root Uninstaller Pro, etc.) after rebooting (they do keep their data and remain frozen until I power my device off). ONLY the apps I installed on or after about two weeks ago have this problem (i.e. apps installed before that do not have this problem). So basically every time I reboot my phone apps installed over the last two weeks look like I've never used them (for example, a notepad app that I used extensively before rebooting shows no notes).
Solutions Attempted (without success obviously):
1.) Uninstalling problematic apps, rebooting phone and reintalling
2.) Doing a full factory reset via CWM recovery, wiping all caches, and restoring a nandroid backup that was taken before this problem arose.
Question: Is there anything that I can do to resolve this problem or do I need to get a new phone?
Thanks,
Jenna
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That's odd... I use titanium backup myself and they stay frozen unless I defrost them. Do you use the free version or the paid version of titanium backup?
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Thx for the reply - I use the pro version
hls13bro said:
Thx for the reply - I use the pro version
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That's odd then. I also use the pro version. Maybe instead of freezing them rename the apk files to .bak instead of apk. That might help
From my Wicked S3 on SOKP
Are there any consequences of changing a file from apk to bak?
hls13bro said:
Are there any consequences of changing a file from apk to bak?
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Not really no, your not deleting the file, it remains in the system or whatever folder it's in
From my Wicked S3 on SOKP
Thanks again for your help! Ok so all I have to do is go into data/app folder and change the problematic apps name from "xyz.apk" to "xyz.bak"?
hls13bro said:
Thanks again for your help! Ok so all I have to do is go into data/app folder and change the problematic apps name from "xyz.apk" to "xyz.bak"?
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You got it, that's pretty much it
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Thanks -- I'll give it a try tonight and let you know how it goes!
hls13bro said:
Thanks -- I'll give it a try tonight and let you know how it goes!
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So I tried the re-naming of the problematic apps from ,apk to .bak (and then rebooted), but the apps didn't appear in my apps list after rebooting and when I went into the google play store it showed that it was not installed -- am I doing something wrong (I used root explorer to do this)? Or is there anything else you could possibly think of to fix this problem? It's driving me crazy!
hls13bro said:
So I tried the re-naming of the problematic apps from ,apk to .bak (and then rebooted), but the apps didn't appear in my apps list after rebooting and when I went into the google play store it showed that it was not installed -- am I doing something wrong (I used root explorer to do this)? Or is there anything else you could possibly think of to fix this problem? It's driving me crazy!
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Because they've been renamed it won't show as installed
From my Wicked S3 on SOKP

Titanium Backup troubleshooting

So I have been using TB for years now, since back in the day that I had the HTC Hero and I have never had a problem with it until now. There are some certain apps that it will just not restore no matter what I try. It begins restoring the others just fine but when it gets to the same exact apps, it just stops and freezes.
I am using the Restore missing apps with data option.
I have tried deleting all backups and backing up again. I have tried verifying my backups various times. I have also tried not using batch restore for those specific apps (Going directly to that app and restoring just that one app with and without data, and it just hangs as well).
I am using SuperSU with my binary updated and busy box installed. I also changed the application processing mode to indirect. Is anyone else having this same issue? Its not on one specific rom, it happens on every rom I flash may it be stock based or aosp. I have exactly 112 apps backed up so when I have to force stop TB, and go back to uncheck the apps that are not restoring various times to restore the rest, it sucks especially since I am very picky with things working as they should.
Apps it will not restore:
Tippy Tipper
Subway Surfer
Nimble Quest
Battlefriends at sea gold
Commander (Star wars)
Instasize
If anyone has any idea what may be causing this and how to fix it, please let me know. Thank you beforehand!
What kernel do you have installed?
Stock CM that came with the official CM12 rom.
But either way, I have had this issue on every rom I have flashed.
valdesr11 said:
But either way, I have had this issue on every rom I have flashed.
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I've had this happen to me, but I don't remember what I did to fix it.
Do you have SELinux in permissive mode?
guyd said:
I've had this happen to me, but I don't remember what I did to fix it.
Do you have SELinux in permissive mode?
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Where do I check this?
valdesr11 said:
Where do I check this?
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> About Phone > SELinux Status
It's in enforced mode. How can I change it?
valdesr11 said:
It's in enforced mode. How can I change it?
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I use this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mrbimc.selinux
I tested this out and I am still having the same issue with the same apps.
I am having a similar issue. Diff device, but I couldn't find any other info. Oddly yesterday it restored no problem.
I was on a diff rom tho. Maybe I'll flash another rom.
valdesr11 said:
I tested this out and I am still having the same issue with the same apps.
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If you go to the play store are you able to install them? I have had a few that i can't restore, but once I've installed them from the play store I can restore the backed up data. I haven't been able to figure out why some restore and others don't (unless they aren't compatible with the DPI and the Android version I've found a few that when you look them up in the play store they are not compatible)
scubamikejax904 said:
If you go to the play store are you able to install them? I have had a few that i can't restore, but once I've installed them from the play store I can restore the backed up data. I haven't been able to figure out why some restore and others don't (unless they aren't compatible with the DPI and the Android version I've found a few that when you look them up in the play store they are not compatible)
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I have been able to install them from the play store without any issue, I just can't restore them using TB no matter what I try. And its weird that its the same apps every time. So it is something that those apps have that does not get along. Can someone manipulate the situation and check on their end? I am running Illusion (Latest version from the 18th) and latest version of TB. See if you can restore those specific apps backed up from any rom.
Try changing the mount namespace separation setting in super su. I got that message when I first installed titanium it was a warning I don't know what it does or if it will fix your problem
I realized today that when backing up the specific apps after deleting all backups (Fresh backup), it rushes through those specific apps like as if it doesn't want to back it up but it doesn't give me an error message.
some apps don't like restoring to a different rom than they were made on.
Have you tried using the option in TB to create an update.zip you can then flash?
Hi there in desperation I come to this thread. Ive tried everything thats suggested in this thread and more.
TT backup Pro home page shows all necessary items like Root etc checked.
Problems with Pro:
1..Nandroid restore crashes immediately on item selection eg as soon as Menu Item Nandroid is selected Titanium crashes.
2..As mentioned by others, some apps wont restore; TT sits there in restore mode with nothing happening. This is on several apps.
3..Menu/Backup data to XML Bookmarks=yes Messages=yes Call log=crash/'Unfortunately, TT bup has stopped.'
4..Several other annoyances in reliability but the above are most important.
I have politely asked Titanium for support but they dont bother answering. After a few days waiting I gave the app a feedback of 1 on Play thinking that would get some response but no!
In 20 years of computer work, I have never had a software supplier with such a terrible support policy, and the feedback page for this app supports this comment.
Im sorry to have to come to this forum asking for help, but the Titanium folks leave me no choice.
As an aside I also use 'Backup Your Mobile' which IMHO is better at restoring settings and reliably restores apps with settings at no cost if you can put up with the ads.
Kind regards,
Alistair.
Since this post and no replies I have submitted 2 more support requests with TTBup support which is done via a web page interface. I even supplied a small video showing the problem. Alogcat does not report any errors which is odd.
Still no replies from TTBup support.

Apps randomly deleted (both system and user apps!)

On my (rooted) S7 I suddenly notices that the Google services and play store were GONE. After installing these from GAPPS, I notice that several apps are disappearing.
I don't know why, don't know how, but I do know it concerns both system apps as well as user apps.
eg: I lost Waze (user app) this morning and, after a reboot, es explorer (user app), Google pictures (system app) and the gallery (also system app).
What can I do to prevent this from happening again?
I did make a titanium backup and a TWRP backup, but of cause it's unacceptable to work with my phone: clicking on an icon has about 2% change that the app is gone!
I noticed others that have this problem too, but I have nothing installed to the external SD card (which, btw. is a pain in the @SS with marshmallow)
No one can help me?
Still on every reboot I lose apps, both user and system apps.
Annoyingly is also that titanium backup cannot restore system apps!
I had link 2nd and foldermount, but removed both before. They are not installed, but still this is happening.
Please, please help!
BTW: a factory reset won't get me my system apps back, right?
I'm also having the exact same problem. Tried to search for a solution but to no avail... This is so frustrating...
what apps are missing ?
i have not seen anything like that
Randomly any apps it feels like removing. System apps, user installed apps. Once my google play store got uninstalled.
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u say u installed GAPPS , maybe thats the problem
Bright.light did, I didn't.
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I think this might be because I flashed ExtSD_Fix_rw-signed-v1.9b.zip
This is used to change the permissions for the external card.
It messes with /system/etc/permissions/platform.xml and /data/system/packages.xml
maybe that got wrong, so I made a factory reset and started all over. Now it works, even with xposed and root.
btw: It's only after I lost the play store/google services that I installed GAPPS, so GAPPS is not the problem.
Same here. I tried to revert to the packages.xml before the flash but it didn't work. Apps still getting uninstalled. So a factory reset did the trick for you? Did u flash ExtSD again after the reset?
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madhero said:
Same here. I tried to revert to the packages.xml before the flash but it didn't work. Apps still getting uninstalled. So a factory reset did the trick for you? Did u flash ExtSD again after the reset?
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No, I removed this ExtSD immediately, just to be sure that I won't flash it again.
For the moment I learn to live with this problem. It's possible because most sophisticated apps are already requesting the correct rights. Including the root capabilities it works as I like it to work.
When there is a better solution, I will TWRP backup and try that one, but this ExtSD is not the correct way.
I haven't found the thread, or else I would have put a warning in there too...
I have changed the permissions and ownership of the files in newer versions. Tonight I will release v2.8 with additional logging to help me finish this thing.
The ExtSD Fix thread is here.
rufus.wilson said:
I have changed the permissions and ownership of the files in newer versions. Tonight I will release v2.8 with additional logging to help me finish this thing.
The ExtSD Fix thread is here.
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Thank rufus! Still appreciate your work on this. Don't take it the wrong way that I'm blaming this app. Users install at their own risk, so it's all in the user. [emoji4]
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madhero said:
Thank rufus! Still appreciate your work on this. Don't take it the wrong way that I'm blaming this app. Users install at their own risk, so it's all in the user. [emoji4]
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No bad feelings ?
My stuff does not work as well as I want it to yet and that frustrates me quite a bit...
Please join the testing team to help. If you don't want to mess your system, nandroid backup before flash and then restore. I hope the apps disappear quickly though... I know it is a pain to loose data/settings/texts/call logs...
rufus.wilson said:
No bad feelings
My stuff does not work as well as I want it to yet and that frustrates me quite a bit...
Please join the testing team to help. If you don't want to mess your system, nandroid backup before flash and then restore. I hope the apps disappear quickly though... I know it is a pain to loose data/settings/texts/call logs...
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I didn't loose those things, however, since my backup was 'old', I just started all over, only retrieving some items from backup selectively.
No hard feelings for the ExtSD, I know it's my own risk
I do hope that the development of ExtSD will continue and that there will be a time that we beat this monster problem! :good: Or that Google finally understands that this is NOT wat we want!
btw: I have several apps which I cannot use anymore because of these ridiculous rights.:crying:
I have the same trouble with missing apps on my rooted 5.0 Lollipop phone.
I find that the missing apps usually have two copies of themselves in the data\app directory.
What I describe will apply to all updated system apps and user apps:
For example playstore is a system app but, after it is updated it is stored as data\app\com.android.vending-1 for the first update. Then data\app\com.android.vending-2 for the 2nd update.
Further updates will alternate between these two storage locations.
If something goes wrong and data\app\com.android.vending-1 does not get deleted you will have two copies of Playstore which I think will lead to a randomly disappearing Playstore.
I delete the oldest dated of the two storage locations and reboot phone. If still missing I reinstall the app and make sure there is only one copy in data\app directory, I will delete the oldest again.
I have auto update apps turned off to reduce the problem. I have a TWRP backup so I do not worry about messing up the phone.
Good Luck!

Titanium Backup

Has anyone been able to successfully restore backed up apps through Titanium Backup? I can do so individually but when I try and do a batch, it won't even do 1 app. Doesn't matter what selection of apps I try and do. Happens with all of them.
WyldOne91 said:
Has anyone been able to successfully restore backed up apps through Titanium Backup? I can do so individually but when I try and do a batch, it won't even do 1 app. Doesn't matter what selection of apps I try and do. Happens with all of them.
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Haven't had this issue with my Fold2 as I'm not rooted, but I did experience this several months ago with a Lenovo M10 Plus. Batch restore refused to work. Turns out, the issue was "Verify apps over USB" being enabled within Developer options. Once I disabled it, TiB worked flawlessly. Ymmv.
justsayinbro said:
Haven't had this issue with my Fold2 as I'm not rooted, but I did experience this several months ago with a Lenovo M10 Plus. Batch restore refused to work. Turns out, the issue was "Verify apps over USB" being enabled within Developer options. Once I disabled it, TiB worked flawlessly. Ymmv.
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****ing life saver over here. That was exactly my issue. Thank you so much!
WyldOne91 said:
****ing life saver over here. That was exactly my issue. Thank you so much!
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Nice! Very welcome.
no prob, i use titanium for the last years too. I transfer the most with Smart Switch from my S10e to the Fold 2. Work perfect ! 2 old games with savegames, wow.
So you confirm me that titanium doesnt work anymore? What is the best app to backup apps and data and restore data? I tried migrate but sometime flashing the apps dowsnt work and even if i succed the app is not installed
I'm also having issues with Titanium; but my case is unique as I'm working on multiple android versions and various devices...
Most annoying is a brand new a11 with magisk that will install Titanium fine but the app crashes instantly every time so its useless... have tried various versions including some that are known working ... somethings wrong with the android 10 - or the a11 - or it doesnt like magisk... no clue... im trying on 15 different devices and failing every time every way with titanium.
I just moved to android 10. TiBu that worked 'fine' in android 9 now will no longer even backup. I get an error
'Insufficient backup space'
Despite there being plenty of space.
The backup location is on the secondary sdcard which has plenty of space. That's where it was in android 9.
There is no warning message about 'namespace' and it is set as 'isolated namespace' in Majisk.
Exploring further, I noticed (see attached) that the backup folder is 'not writeable'. (The existing backups are from android 9) But TiBu has storage permission.
Any suggestions?

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