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Problems with Titanium Backup's "Integrate system app updates into ROM" feature.

Problems with Titanium Backup's "Integrate system app updates into ROM" feature.
I searched, but didn't find any documentation on this feature, so I did the adventurous thing and tried it out. It's supposed to replace the system apps in the ROM with the updated apk, therefore saving space in the system memory. But after the batch finished, all of the updated apps were completely gone...the originals AND the updates were deleted. Since there isn't a way to "undo" this function, I had to reflash the ROM. Does anyone know more about this option? Does it work with any ROM?
Sent from my Evo with the xda app

deafcon5 said:
I searched, but didn't find any documentation on this feature, so I did the adventurous thing and tried it out. It's supposed to replace the system apps in the ROM with the updated apk, therefore saving space in the system memory. But after the batch finished, all of the updated apps were completely gone...the originals AND the updates were deleted. Since there isn't a way to "undo" this function, I had to reflash the ROM. Does anyone know more about this option? Does it work with any ROM?
Sent from my Evo with the xda app
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If your rooted you can replace them yourself.

deafcon5 said:
I searched, but didn't find any documentation on this feature, so I did the adventurous thing and tried it out. It's supposed to replace the system apps in the ROM with the updated apk, therefore saving space in the system memory. But after the batch finished, all of the updated apps were completely gone...the originals AND the updates were deleted. Since there isn't a way to "undo" this function, I had to reflash the ROM. Does anyone know more about this option? Does it work with any ROM?
Sent from my Evo with the xda app
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I faced the same probs. But here is a few tips to get back your app:
1. Use titanium backup, run Batch, uninstall those apps that you have moved to ROM (which already highlighted in Red)
2. Find install apks for those apps in Google, reinstall it
3. Reboot your device
4. All app icons have back
Have fun, mate!!

winbytrick said:
I faced the same probs. But here is a few tips to get back your app:
1. Use titanium backup, run Batch, uninstall those apps that you have moved to ROM (which already highlighted in Red)
2. Find install apks for those apps in Google, reinstall it
3. Reboot your device
4. All app icons have back
Have fun, mate!!
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I had the same problem; with the Android Market app disappeared. I have tried to re-install it the way you suggest, but the app stops working when I start any download from the market. Even reset the phone to factory settings, but I have the same problem. Any clue?
Thanks!!!

I just did a hot restart and it was fine for me.
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deafcon5 said:
I searched, but didn't find any documentation on this feature, so I did the adventurous thing and tried it out. It's supposed to replace the system apps in the ROM with the updated apk, therefore saving space in the system memory. But after the batch finished, all of the updated apps were completely gone...the originals AND the updates were deleted. Since there isn't a way to "undo" this function, I had to reflash the ROM. Does anyone know more about this option? Does it work with any ROM?
Sent from my Evo with the xda app
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I was having a similar problem with my Galaxy Note on ICS 4.04.
Whenever I tried to integrate the Play Store it would delete both the update and the old app and I would have to reinstall the APK.
I also noticed recently that a few other updates that appeared to be integrated successfully reappeared in the list of available updates to integrate, like they reverted to user apps after a reboot?
What finally fixed it for me was selecting the option in Titanium Backup Pro *Menu; Preferences; Advanced Settings; Check the box "Auto-integrate sys Dalvik into"
I then did a backup of my launcher app, long pressed on the backup and selected "Convert to System App", then single pressed on the app backup, selected restore then selected app data only"
It prompted me to reboot, after reboot when I checked the"batch, integrate updates into system ROM" all the apps which I was having problems with had disappeared from the list, and appear to be integrated now.
I don't know if it was the reboot or enabling the option in Titanium Backup, but something changed.

I have some problems also
I used Titanium mainly to integrate the updates into rom in my previous htc sensation and in my galaxy s3 and it worked fine with them. Now it does not work properly with my galaxy s4. After the integration some apps crash, Chrome, Dropbox. Some of them only delete the update and leave the old one in rom. If I go to google play the update is there to be installed again or some apps just prompt for the update when opened. I sent an email to the developer but I have not response. I have used it successfully in my previous phones but it is not working in this one. Any help is appreciated.

rdefranx said:
I used Titanium mainly to integrate the updates into rom in my previous htc sensation and in my galaxy s3 and it worked fine with them. Now it does not work properly with my galaxy s4. After the integration some apps crash, Chrome, Dropbox. Some of them only delete the update and leave the old one in rom. If I go to google play the update is there to be installed again or some apps just prompt for the update when opened. I sent an email to the developer but I have not response. I have used it successfully in my previous phones but it is not working in this one. Any help is appreciated.
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Yep, I'm having this exact problem. First the apps didn't show up, so I performed a hot restart. They're all back now, but Dropbox, Chrome, G+ and others that were integrated are all crashing now.
I imagine it's mostly to so with new security features with the S4. If you're using an S4 please stay away from this feature until it's officially recognised as an issue by the TitaniumBackup developer. I'll reflash PDA shortly and report back if that resolves the problem.

chrisfu said:
Yep, I'm having this exact problem. First the apps didn't show up, so I performed a hot restart. They're all back now, but Dropbox, Chrome, G+ and others that were integrated are all crashing now.
I imagine it's mostly to so with new security features with the S4. If you're using an S4 please stay away from this feature until it's officially recognised as an issue by the TitaniumBackup developer. I'll reflash PDA shortly and report back if that resolves the problem.
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I did reflash the phone with the stock firmware and everithing is good. I have tried some apps but it did not work. I just leave them there until titanium backup is updated. This is the most used feature for me and now is not working.

rdefranx said:
I used Titanium mainly to integrate the updates into rom in my previous htc sensation and in my galaxy s3 and it worked fine with them. Now it does not work properly with my galaxy s4. After the integration some apps crash, Chrome, Dropbox. Some of them only delete the update and leave the old one in rom. If I go to google play the update is there to be installed again or some apps just prompt for the update when opened. I sent an email to the developer but I have not response. I have used it successfully in my previous phones but it is not working in this one. Any help is appreciated.
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Titanium Backup's update this week supposedly fixed integrating on Android 4.2. Who's up to try it out?

M3wThr33 said:
Titanium Backup's update this week supposedly fixed integrating on Android 4.2. Who's up to try it out?
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I will try one of the apps that did not work for me, when I get home. I already updated it today. Thanks

rdefranx said:
I will try one of the apps that did not work for me, when I get home. I already updated it today. Thanks
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It's been a week. Tried it yet?

M3wThr33 said:
It's been a week. Tried it yet?
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Sorry, I have been busy to come back. Well, some work, others no. Chrome did not work but I did google Maps, google play, and several other updates. I did not mess with ChatOn since if something goes wrong it could break S voice and S translator. I just did now Google music and Flipboard. Usually I have to reboot in order to have the shortcut in the apps or to fix the name of them. For example, after integrate flipboard is in the drawer with the name and no icon, it launched fine, google music was fine and worked fine. After reboot the icon came back. The only problem is that if does not work then I have to convert the system app to user in order to make it work. Yesterday I converted the jelly bean photosphere camera to system and it was converted but did not work. It force close, then I tried to converted to user app and it took a long time and just was frozen there. I stopped TB but the camera disapear from the drawer, since rebooting fix the icon or name problem, I did it. My phone did not pass the samsung galaxy logo on boot. It was just a black screen after the logo and pressing the power button did not power on or off when I pressed, only when I released. Lucky me that I did a NAND backup before this process and still I could access download mode and the CWM which I used to restore my phone with the backup in my external card. After everything was as before I started. Now I will be more careful when I do this doing a backup before starting.
Samsung Link update integration did not work, force close. Samsung Hub worked but when press the back button to close then force close. Group play seems to work since it opens and go to the start page and no problem when I press the back button.

Still having same problem
Several programs quit working after converting apps to rom. I couldn't get them to work and finally put the locked rom back in, then unlocked it again. I have a verizon galaxy s4 me7 sch-I545 and the update didn't help here.

i want to know if i do this method, does the phone memory will get smaller if i do this again if the system apps getting new update?

hey there,
i have to grab out this thread because i have problems too. almost every app i integrate into system rom force closes, when i try to start it.
even chmod a+x didn't make it better (but the other apps in /system/app are not executable, so this had no sense).
i'm using the latest cm11 nightly for the motorola photon q. is there a known solution?

I have the same issue with this function as rdefranx.
After the integrate process, all updates are fine and i have the old versions again which i have to update. Repeated the process with single apps with showing same results again.
I also sent an so to the developer, but that's a shame: You never ever get an answer if you have a problem with titanium backup.
The app is good and helped me a lot. But shame on the non existing support. Really disappointing and unprofessional. Oh yes: i paid for the app. Thank you.

Hi, I just quit using his feature. I don't know if will work with my note 3 because I don't want to have problems. I will be subscribing to this thread in case a solution is found.

Also happened to me 4 days ago using a Moto X. Except for me it also deleted the Google keyboard & play store among others.
So I was left with no keyboard to type with and no play store to download from. After a factory rest it meant that by having no keyboard I couldn't even type anything on my phone to create a google account to restore the aps & Keyboard with. I had to reflash the whole rom again, and will stay clear of integrating the apks. I did this 4 days ago, so i'm not sure if titanium has updated since then.

Same problem with me. LG G2 Mini Official KK4.4.2 rooted, after Integrating system apps in ROM almost all of them crashing. Don't think that has to do with titanium, but with the android version. I used tha feature on my old LG P350 (stock rom+cm) and worked perfectly. But now in kitkat is messing up. Btw i'm using the latest version of titanium pro

[Q] Google Not Detecting My Nexus 5

Ok so I have a weird problem that I could not find a solution googling for a few hours. I got a nexus 5 back in February. According to "My Devices" on the google play store site it was registered on Feb 25th and shows last used on Feb 27th. I have noticed that I couldn't remotely install apps from the site but haven't tried to trouble shoot it until now. Also the android device manager does not work. I am rooted but using the stock ROM. I've been using the phone itself with no problems. I get app updates, use the google+ picture auto backup and other services on the phone. The only problem seems to be that I am not linked to the google play website with the nexus 5. Anyone seen or heard anything like this?
I tried this below but it didn't work:
Open Google Settings from your device's apps menu.
Touch Android Device Manager.
Uncheck Allow remote factory reset.
Go to your device's main Settings menu, then touch Apps > All < Google Play services.
Touch Clear Data. Note that this action doesn't remove personal data.
Go back to Google Settings and select Allow remote factory reset.
Restart your device.
you might have to unselect remote factory reset to clear data in Google play services. After clear data the go back in select it again, reboot you should be good to go.
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Every time it unlinked for me I just installed an App from the Play Store on my Nexus 5, and it would link again and I could install remotely through the Desktop website.

Hmmm I wish that were the case. I just installed an app yesterday after the remote link didn't work and I have tried again since. I've also removed my google account and added it back. Looks like a factory reset is in my future. Some things I've done that may have affected it:
Restore apps (not system) from titanium backup
Installed Xposed
Use of OpenVPN

ant_129 said:
Hmmm I wish that were the case. I just installed an app yesterday after the remote link didn't work and I have tried again since. I've also removed my google account and added it back. Looks like a factory reset is in my future. Some things I've done that may have affected it:
Restore apps (not system) from titanium backup
Installed Xposed
Use of OpenVPN
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Titanium Backup and Xposed should not affect it. OpenVPN, I'm not sure about, but I HIGHLY doubt it would be the cause. Try removing your Google account from Settings and setting it up again.

Titanium Backup... should not affect it.
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Titanium Backup WILL affect it - when you first loaded it on it would have asked you if you wanted to restore the device ID.
Open Titanium, press menu, chose the Manage Android ID, and restore your original ID. Then hit Market Update Helper, that will rebuild the market links.
Edit: Actually, maybe you don't want to restore - where did the original backup come from? Was it a Nexus 5? Maybe you already did restore the original, and it was from a different device??

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Titanium Backup WILL affect it - when you first loaded it on it would have asked you if you wanted to restore the device ID.
Open Titanium, press menu, chose the Manage Android ID, and restore your original ID. Then hit Market Update Helper, that will rebuild the market links.
Edit: Actually, maybe you don't want to restore - where did the original backup come from? Was it a Nexus 5? Maybe you already did restore the original, and it was from a different device??
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Yeah I moved non system apps from a CM10 GS3. I thought about the Android ID as well. I generated a new one yesterday just to see if it fixed my problem. No luck. I am going to factory reset tonight. I'll post the results soon after I get everything up and running and confirm. Thanks for the suggestions.

ant_129 said:
Yeah I moved non system apps from a CM10 GS3. I thought about the Android ID as well. I generated a new one yesterday just to see if it fixed my problem. No luck. I am going to factory reset tonight. I'll post the results soon after I get everything up and running and confirm. Thanks for the suggestions.
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Try re-building the market links through Tibu first.. might work?

Factory reset worked. I wish I knew what happened. I did a combination restore of my apps via the nexus 5 toolkit and titanium backup. The toolkit didn't get them all. I have not tried Xposed again. I may wait a bit and see if that was the cause.

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krs360 said:
Titanium Backup WILL affect it - when you first loaded it on it would have asked you if you wanted to restore the device ID.
Open Titanium, press menu, chose the Manage Android ID, and restore your original ID. Then hit Market Update Helper, that will rebuild the market links.
Edit: Actually, maybe you don't want to restore - where did the original backup come from? Was it a Nexus 5? Maybe you already did restore the original, and it was from a different device??
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YES.I does agree Titanium Backup will affect it and have a option of restoring the device ID.:good:

ant_129 said:
Factory reset worked. I wish I knew what happened. I did a combination restore of my apps via the nexus 5 toolkit and titanium backup. The toolkit didn't get them all. I have not tried Xposed again. I may wait a bit and see if that was the cause.
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Highly doubt Xposed would cause since I've been using it for a long time. As previously said, it was probably Titanium Backup messing with your ID.

[Q] Play Store Error on Lollipop

I'm running DH's Lollipop ROM and the Play store has been giving me -505 errors when I try to install certain applications. It is not during the download period, just when the app attempts to install itself. This happens with APKs as well. Is it an issue of Lollipop compatibility? I'm trying to download Chronus in particular.

mbtags said:
I'm running DH's Lollipop ROM and the Play store has been giving me -505 errors when I try to install certain applications. It is not during the download period, just when the app attempts to install itself. This happens with APKs as well. Is it an issue of Lollipop compatibility? I'm trying to download Chronus in particular.
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Make sure that you did a clean install of the rom. If you were in TWRP there is a advanced wiping tab. Try wiping internal data (that does not wipe external sd card). This is probably a fix. If using some other recovery it should come with a similar feature. Hope this helped

Robby_Rimal said:
Make sure that you did a clean install of the rom. If you were in TWRP there is a advanced wiping tab. Try wiping internal data (that does not wipe external sd card). This is probably a fix. If using some other recovery it should come with a similar feature. Hope this helped
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Thanks, I tried that but still no luck so I just restored a nandroid. I've been digging around the N5 forums because they've had Lollipop for a while and it looks like it's a common thing with 5.0.

mbtags said:
Thanks, I tried that but still no luck so I just restored a nandroid. I've been digging around the N5 forums because they've had Lollipop for a while and it looks like it's a common thing with 5.0.
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I had the same issue. Just curious, but did you try and use Titanium Backup at all? I did, and it failed. Must have broke something. A clean flash did the trick for me.

I had the same issue but only with apps that I attempted to restore with Titanium. I had to do a full data wipe and reflash to be able to install those apps again.

ethan.r.besbris said:
I had the same issue. Just curious, but did you try and use Titanium Backup at all? I did, and it failed. Must have broke something. A clean flash did the trick for me.
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Yea I did and it just hangs up on that restore until I FC the app and deselect from restore. With the ROM I'm using Chronus (for example) is an optionally app to be installed and it installs that way but isn't the most up to date version and the update from the Play Store doesn't install either. Weird issues for sure.

mbtags said:
Yea I did and it just hangs up on that restore until I FC the app and deselect from restore. With the ROM I'm using Chronus (for example) is an optionally app to be installed and it installs that way but isn't the most up to date version and the update from the Play Store doesn't install either. Weird issues for sure.
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Clean flash Lollipop and DO NOT use TiBu. It must not be fully working on 5.9 yet. I had the exact same thing happen. Just let Google restore your apps.

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ethan.r.besbris said:
Clean flash Lollipop and DO NOT use TiBu. It must not be fully working on 5.9 yet. I had the exact same thing happen. Just let Google restore your apps.
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I have flashed the ROM and love it except this issue that I am also experiencing. I also have TiBu but did not use it for the app restore. Rather I used Google Play and it failed to install Any.do. I have tried manually and read extensively online and the problem appears to be related to Adobe air not being Lollipop compatible. I finally email Anydo and they are aware of the issue and are providing me with a link to their upcoming lollipop beta. My point is I don't believe reflashing, re-restoring, or rummaging around in the data/data folder will fix the 505 error.

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McKinley66 said:
I have flashed the ROM and love it except this issue that I am also experiencing. I also have TiBu but did not use it for the app restore. Rather I used Google Play and it failed to install Any.do. I have tried manually and read extensively online and the problem appears to be related to Adobe air not being Lollipop compatible. I finally email Anydo and they are aware of the issue and are providing me with a link to their upcoming lollipop beta. My point is I don't believe reflashing, re-restoring, or rummaging around in the data/data folder will fix the 505 error.
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After reading further I decided to uninstall ALL Task apps, which included Chaos-Control. I was then able to install Any.DO. It was a permission issue and it conflicted with Chaos-Control. Lollipop is confusing app permissions. Find the like app, uninstall, and then install the app you want. That worked for me.

Titanium backup pro won't restore apps

Hi guys, as the title says, I'm having problems restoring apps and app data both individually and through batch restore. I've tried changing the SuperSU mounting method, different versions of TB and changed the app processing mode. I've tried it all on the latest version of TB and the version before that. I have no problems backing up apps though. If I try manually installing the apk (after extracting it from the archive TB backs them up to) it installs fine. BusyBox is also installed, USB debugging is enabled and apps from unknown sources is also checked.
I would manually install all the apps, but I want app data restored too and it would be a very tedious job since I have quite a few to restore (some 173 apps) as I just updated to Marshmallow.
Any advice on what I could try next?

No advice, sorry. But I have the very same problem...

Might have been fixed in new update?
bautrupp said:
No advice, sorry. But I have the very same problem...
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TB had an update today for Marshmallow support, so maybe that fixed it? Well, anyway I installed them with adb instead since I needed my phone today. I extracted all the apks from the archives and used a batch to list all my apks in a text file, then added "adb install X:\app dir" to the beginning of each line in the text file then changed the extension to .bat and found that TB would restore app data alone in the batch restore commands.
Code:
DIR *.apk /B>APKlist.txt
A fair bit of effort for all my apps, but I got them all back onto my phone eventually with all the data too. I'm happy now, but I'd still like a solution for future reference.

Todays TB update didn't fix it, at least for me.
Luckily I made the update to marshmallow so far only on a spare N7.

bautrupp said:
Todays TB update didn't fix it, at least for me.
Luckily I made the update to marshmallow so far only on a spare N7.
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I wonder what the problem could be.... Do you know if there's an official thread for TB on here?
EDIT: I've emailed TB, waiting for a reply.

Same issue. It just hangs when trying to restore on Marshmallow.

I agonised over this for hours last night - turns out that the the fix for me was to switch SELinux to permissive mode.
Install this app: http://forum.xda-developers.com/devdb/project/dl/?id=12506 -- open the app, switch to permissive, and give it another go.

I fogt the same problem for hours messing with everything I could think of and this fixed it thank you very much. I know it's a temporary fix until they get the application straightened out but hey its a fix
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cezuk said:
I agonised over this for hours last night - turns out that the the fix for me was to switch SELinux to permissive mode.
Install this app: http://forum.xda-developers.com/devdb/project/dl/?id=12506 -- open the app, switch to permissive, and give it another go.
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Mine is already on permissive it seems, now what do I do?

mayurh said:
Mine is already on permissive it seems, now what do I do?
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Not sure dude, sorry. Switching to permissive mode seemed to fix everything for me - Titanium Backup, Social Contact Sync, StickMount... pretty much everything that needed root.

cezuk said:
Not sure dude, sorry. Switching to permissive mode seemed to fix everything for me - Titanium Backup, Social Contact Sync, StickMount... pretty much everything that needed root.
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thanks though
not sure why but if the app is already on the device(older version or with no data) then the restore works
so if i try restore an app(looks like only google apps are not restoring)..then tb just hangs at 0%...
once i manually install the app from the app store., tb stops hanging and restores the data?
maybe this can help someone figure out why restores wont work

I'm having the same issue with Titanium Backup Pro 7.6.0.1:
I backed up and validated user apps and data on my rooted Nexus 4 Cyanogenmod 13.0 Android 6.0.1;
Copied the folder to my SuperSU rooted Xiaomi Mi-5s Miui-8 Android 6.0.1;
Enabled apps from unknown sources;
Set SELinux mode to permissive;
$: su
# setenforce 0
# getenforce
# Permissive
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Updated Titanium's backup storage by searching the device for the Storage folder then 'Reload Application';
Set a filter to list my backed-up user apps from the Nexus;
Set Preferences - App Processing Mode to Auto Direct, and Auto Indirect;
Ran a batch to restore 152 missing user apps with data
Tibu counts through the apps very rapidly, but doesn't install any.
I also made an update zip of apps and data in the new device, and updated it from TWRP without success.
What's the problem?
Thanks

Hello.
I'm having the same issue on titanium 7.6.0.1:
I've tried integrating update system apps into rom but those apps disappear:
-google play store
-android system web view
-smart suite
-talkback
-google text-to-speech output
and the most of my apps are not working now.
I've tried restoring a backup of them I have in titanium backup, but when I click to restore it just don't do anything (it stays at 0% for ever).
My phone is now not connected to my google account anymore now and I can't even add it going to Settings/Account.
Tried rebooting phone but nothing changed.
How do I get them back and the other apps back to work properly?
Thanks.

As I have the Pro version I emailed Titanium support with the problem - but no reply yet.
TiBu seems to work sometimes but not other times and support seems sadly lacking for a paid app; so I copied my issue and a link to this thread to their support.

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Has anyone been able to successfully restore backed up apps through Titanium Backup? I can do so individually but when I try and do a batch, it won't even do 1 app. Doesn't matter what selection of apps I try and do. Happens with all of them.

WyldOne91 said:
Has anyone been able to successfully restore backed up apps through Titanium Backup? I can do so individually but when I try and do a batch, it won't even do 1 app. Doesn't matter what selection of apps I try and do. Happens with all of them.
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Haven't had this issue with my Fold2 as I'm not rooted, but I did experience this several months ago with a Lenovo M10 Plus. Batch restore refused to work. Turns out, the issue was "Verify apps over USB" being enabled within Developer options. Once I disabled it, TiB worked flawlessly. Ymmv.

justsayinbro said:
Haven't had this issue with my Fold2 as I'm not rooted, but I did experience this several months ago with a Lenovo M10 Plus. Batch restore refused to work. Turns out, the issue was "Verify apps over USB" being enabled within Developer options. Once I disabled it, TiB worked flawlessly. Ymmv.
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****ing life saver over here. That was exactly my issue. Thank you so much!

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****ing life saver over here. That was exactly my issue. Thank you so much!
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Nice! Very welcome.

no prob, i use titanium for the last years too. I transfer the most with Smart Switch from my S10e to the Fold 2. Work perfect ! 2 old games with savegames, wow.

So you confirm me that titanium doesnt work anymore? What is the best app to backup apps and data and restore data? I tried migrate but sometime flashing the apps dowsnt work and even if i succed the app is not installed

I'm also having issues with Titanium; but my case is unique as I'm working on multiple android versions and various devices...
Most annoying is a brand new a11 with magisk that will install Titanium fine but the app crashes instantly every time so its useless... have tried various versions including some that are known working ... somethings wrong with the android 10 - or the a11 - or it doesnt like magisk... no clue... im trying on 15 different devices and failing every time every way with titanium.

I just moved to android 10. TiBu that worked 'fine' in android 9 now will no longer even backup. I get an error
'Insufficient backup space'
Despite there being plenty of space.
The backup location is on the secondary sdcard which has plenty of space. That's where it was in android 9.
There is no warning message about 'namespace' and it is set as 'isolated namespace' in Majisk.
Exploring further, I noticed (see attached) that the backup folder is 'not writeable'. (The existing backups are from android 9) But TiBu has storage permission.
Any suggestions?