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note edge or note 4 buying advise

got a note 2 want to upgrade it to laest model
confused between note 4 and edge ,
which one would you recommend from your experience
.can you post some comments from your experience .
thanks

I guess its all come down to whether u want something different. For me i really like the edge with that unique side pannel. Also i find even though screen is similar....the edge is more natural in colour...while note 4 is brighter. Least but not last...if you really love custom rom...the note 4 seem to have better support..For me im very happy with my edge.
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I am on VZW, so when the Note 4 came out I got one. Love it. Note Edge came out, got one too.
Was hard to make a decision since I love them both but I ended up choosing to keep the Edge.
They are almost identical and completely different at the same time. For example:
Note 4.
Little bit bigger display (I noticed this specially on the keyboard, the keyboard a bigger on the Note 4)
Feels more natural in the hands, more like a phone if that makes sense.
Battery life is a little better
I think the Note 4 may get updated sooner than Note Edge and will probably get better support from developers
Note 4 has a better feeling, feels more premium, more solid.
Note Edge
Feels a little thinner, I'm not sure if it really is
With the edge, I was able to put most icons there and not my home screen is clean. I love that.
Seems silly, but the edge looks more futuristic, modern and I really like that. More people ask about it...
Today, I'm very happy with the Edge, love it. Don't regret my decision.

Edge is it...
I also own the N4 & the Edge, to sum it up I Swappa'd my N4. Dispite the locked bootloader I love this Note Edge device. Battery is not bad but nothing like the N4, I cant wait for the next Note Edge generation.
My reason for buying was to support real innovation. I feel like Samsung stepped it up with the Edge display and metal materials while still retaining the removable backplate.
But if you're a VZW customer, I recommend waiting for the Note Edge Developer edition.
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-N915VMKEVZW?CID=AFL-hq-mul-0813-11000279

If you have small hands, Note Edge is not suitable for you IMO. Because it's wider than Note 4. My fiancee can not handle it with one hand. She's got Note 4 and happy with it. Yes Note Edge looks weird at the first look. But it's bright. And thinner than Note 4.

The notifications, the night clock, the quick access to apps, the way it handles calls, the tool bar, and the extra edge programs makes it a hands down winner to me. If the screen size and battery were the exact same the note 4 probably would have only been released in limited edition instead of the other way around.
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I've had my Edge (AT&T) for 6 days, and today and left it at home in favor of my Note 2. I think it will go back to the store this weekend. Side by side, for normal daily tasks, my rooted Note 2 is actually quicker and more responsive than the stock Edge. If the ATT Edge could be rooted, I'd probably think more highly of it, but my other complaint is that when I hold it in one hand, my finger tends to fall on the edge panel causing the main screen to ignore my thumb input. Also, the sharp edge at the top of the phone is uncomfortable when I press it up to my ear.
It's kind of disappointing because I watched this phone from the day it was announced, and counted the days until I was upgrade eligible. I'll continue to rock my beater Note 2 until the Note 4 gets rooted, then probably switch to that. In the meantime, the recently released Ditto Note 4 ROM has given me a newfound appreciation for my Note 2.

Feels like the Edge is curved the wrong way for holding it like a phone, the exact opposite of Motorola's nice curved backs and definitely less ergonomic than the Note 4. Plus it's wider making it that bit more exaggerated. If you factor in dev support it's an easy decision.

Note Edge Or S6 Edge?

Hello everyone,
love Note Edge but S6 Edge is nice, what do you think should take? new edge panels do not see, you should wait for the Notes 5 Edge? I fear that it remains experimental.. I do not see developments on the screen edge.
What should I do?

I like my Note Edge too! I seen the post by theverge.com that reported that the S6 wouldn't have a removable battery, no waterproofing, nor a MicoSD slot. I like the development aspect to come but not taking away 2 important functions (SD Memory card and Removable Battery)

Idk definitely take the S6 Edge, but sadly I like my big screen ,5.1 inch doesn't appeal to me.
I also like the fact they used gorilla glass for front and back for looks, but that's it, that's the reason for no removable battery, also more prone to have not just the screen shatter but the entire phone if dropped.

It's purely a matter of personal preference. I listened and watched the live stream on Sunday afternoon on the S6 and S6 Edge and as soon as I confirmed the lack of microSD and how small the S6E screen was, I ordered my Note Edge (which should be arriving via FedEx in any minute ).
Does the S6E look sharp and have some nice features, of course. But I've always wanted a larger screen and IMHO I think the edge is best served with a larger screen since you can't launch apps and favorites from the edge on the S6E (which is important to me). On top of that, on Saturday the Note Edge was $399.99 (which would mean $200 out of pocket for me since my firm reimburses up to $199.99) and on Sunday it was $199.99, so I can wait 11 months for my next upgrade.

I like big screens for myself and the S6 will be very popular anyways so I'll stay big and unique with my Note edge.

Loving my Note Edge. I am concerned about the future of Samsung phones though - the S series is their flagship phone series, and they're getting rid of the removable battery and the micro sd card slot. Is that how Samsung intends to do things from now on? When I pick up a new phone in 2017, I may very well be looking at other brands. I'm not even close to using up the 32GB on my Edge, but I still really don't like the idea of using an Android phone without the option for more space.
LG's looking good though. :]

It seems like the S6 edges are less usable than the Note Edge (they seem to be too narrow for anything useful). For me, it's worth the extra money for the Note Edge even if I only use the App panel and the built in features like phone calls on the Edge.
The Note Edge is about more than that - the S Pen is also great. My cousin who's an artist said that it was really nice for drawing.

Note edge size little big and difficult to keep it in pocket. I think s6 edge would be better choice those who thinking to buy note edge.
I am planning to switch to s6 edge on release.
Galaxy s6 edge lighter and touch fingerprint which I like the most and specially fastest camera.
3 features makes s6 edge worthy.

depends. if you fly overseas, then get note 4 lte-a(international ver, atleast can sell for something later, but no 4g the US) will get s6 edge on contract (unlock of course and can use lte-a in US) then wait for xda hacks to take adv of the egde functions. also it's newer than note edge. this is what I'm doing so it's up to you
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i think the main factors for you to consider
size
is battery and sd card important to you
i think they look both stunning, with the s6 edge being prettier of course but not much and having 2 edge screens.
note edge will be "cheaper" too once the s6e comes out

s6 edge is marvelous, but if you need pen go for note edge.

If the S6 and S6 Edge does well, this may be the end of expandable storage and removable battery on Samsung's high end devices. The S6 Edge looks way better than the note Edge (which i own) in my opinion mainly due to the dual edges which makes the phone look more symmetrical and obviously the high grade materials used makes for a better looking device also, but i briefly used the Nexus 5 and not having a removable battery and a sd card slot was not cool for me. Really gonna miss those 2 items if this is new wave for Samsung devices!

And if aspect Notes Edge 2 with two dual edge???
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/03/03...he-galaxy-note-lineup-says-samsung-executive/

I agree, the real difference is the pen.

Personally I think they are two totally different phones from what I have seen. I have the note edge. To me loosing the removable back and micro SD is a big deal. I don't like not having options. I don't swap batteries throughout the day but when my battery does crap out I want to be able to just replace it myself. I usually don't store a ton of stuff on my phone much less actually require a SD card. But like the iPhone I see this storage options as being a way to get extra money out of people and the fact that whatever u get u are stuck with bothers me. Also the edges aren't actually as big as the notes and I don't think they act like a separate display for notifications. I may be wrong about that one.
But the positives about the 6 is that it looks really nice from what I've seen. Kinda dissapointed the didnt just do the note 4 build with the removable back but it does look really nice. And the wireless charging is a big plus. So like said before I think there isn't really a right or wrong choice. Just a personal preference.
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just got my note edge last week and i'm loving it. for me, the removable battery, micro sd and the s-pen are the sticking points. i use the s-pen a lot and i can't imagine going to a phone without one. i'm sure the s6 is fantastic but i reckon my note edge will be staying with me for quite some time.

jjdavola said:
It's purely a matter of personal preference. I listened and watched the live stream on Sunday afternoon on the S6 and S6 Edge and as soon as I confirmed the lack of microSD and how small the S6E screen was, I ordered my Note Edge (which should be arriving via FedEx in any minute ).
Does the S6E look sharp and have some nice features, of course. But I've always wanted a larger screen and IMHO I think the edge is best served with a larger screen since you can't launch apps and favorites from the edge on the S6E (which is important to me). On top of that, on Saturday the Note Edge was $399.99 (which would mean $200 out of pocket for me since my firm reimburses up to $199.99) and on Sunday it was $199.99, so I can wait 11 months for my next upgrade.
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This is actually exactly what I did lol.

To each there own
So imo the note edge wins hands down.
Bigger screen.
Expanable memory
Removable battery
Better edge. And the s6 doesnt have the edge support of the note edge sonce its so small.
The fact that its not made of glass. (Yes the s6 back is glass)
And the spen. Its 100% great and only the note line has it.

I read this....
2. Features comparison between Galaxy S6 Edge and Galaxy Note Edge
Galaxy S6 Edge Galaxy Note Edge
- Feeds Panel (Only simple feed) - Edge Panel including Feeds Panel
- Expanded App
Use only Feeds Panels to wake up edge screen. Always use Edge Panels
Aspect Note 5 Edge or buy Note Edge

Note Edge
Samsung has confirmed the dual edges on the s6 edge will not have the separate screen function that the note edge has, they are merely for aesthetics. IMO no point in having the edge display without the edge function.
Lacks removable battery and SD card slot. i really really really really do not ever see myself using a phone that does not have the micro SD slot. I do use a lot of space on my phones. and on top of that all that downloading and surfing and gaming on the phone and i am not allowed to use an extended battery? i am really big on buying the aftermarket larger batteries so my phone lasts longer on a single charge.
and lastly, no S-Pen. the S-Pen brings a whole new level of awesome to your phone, it is a lot more precise than using your fingers for selecting text, or light to moderate photo editing. I use the Photoshop Touch app on my phones and tablets a lot, and the pen just makes it so much easier to edit that i couldn't see myself going back to a phone without it.
and trust me once you get a taste of the edge functions and the all new level of multitasking the second screen gives you on the note edge you will be hooked too. there is a lot more that the notes do that i couldn't do on my S4 or other S series, or even on my Motorola phones i used to use. (R.I.P. Droid Bionc, <3 u 4E)

Switching from Note 5 to S7

I have the opportunity to keep any one of these great phones, the Note 5 or the S7. I've been on the Note 5 for months now, and it's been such an amazing phone... it's really hard to change it.
But I've had an S7 for the past weeks, and I've been able to switch for a few days, and then go back to Note. But recently I think I'll be sticking with the S7 and probably sell my Note 5 (I get anxious just thinking about it).
Some of my thoughts for doing this:
1. Soon there will be a Note 6 (and hopefully it will be waterproof, amazing, etc) So selling my Note 5 right now might be a good idea.
2. My hands have actually been thankful for the size change. I have big hands, but damn using a regular S7 feels so good in my hands. It feels a bit heavier, but it's much comfortable to hold.
3. It's waterproof. Initially I didn't make much of it being waterproof, but now I can tell it's quite a big deal. I brings a new level of relaxation regarding phone safety.
4. External SD. Not much to add. It's great.
5. Both have 3000 mAh. It's a decent size. (Though I've got to say that my Note 5 for some reason gives me way better performance. Both stock Rom. Both stock Kernel. Both MM)
So yeah. I guess I'll keep the S7. Smaller size has really felt good. It's a freaking great phone.
What do you guys think?

I'd personally sell the n5 based off the price you will get vs when the n6 gets released.
Also ext SD, waterproof and smaller size is my priority.
I think you decided on the s7 by the end of your post.

NatTheCat said:
I think you decided on the s7 by the end of your post.
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Yes, I'm gonna try to sell my Note 5. It's phone I've loved the most.
But you know, I've got a trip coming soon, and God willing I'll be able to take my kids with me. It seems to me that being able to just have that extra SD cards space, and the waterproof advantage, I'd have to be dumb not to take this small S7.
I guess it's the reason that so many reviews are calling it the best phone there is.:good:

gaston_garcia said:
I have the opportunity to keep any one of these great phones, the Note 5 or the S7. I've been on the Note 5 for months now, and it's been such an amazing phone... it's really hard to change it.
But I've had an S7 for the past weeks, and I've been able to switch for a few days, and then go back to Note. But recently I think I'll be sticking with the S7 and probably sell my Note 5 (I get anxious just thinking about it).
Some of my thoughts for doing this:
1. Soon there will be a Note 6 (and hopefully it will be waterproof, amazing, etc) So selling my Note 5 right now might be a good idea.
2. My hands have actually been thankful for the size change. I have big hands, but damn using a regular S7 feels so good in my hands. It feels a bit heavier, but it's much comfortable to hold.
3. It's waterproof. Initially I didn't make much of it being waterproof, but now I can tell it's quite a big deal. I brings a new level of relaxation regarding phone safety.
4. External SD. Not much to add. It's great.
5. Both have 3000 mAh. It's a decent size. (Though I've got to say that my Note 5 for some reason gives me way better performance. Both stock Rom. Both stock Kernel. Both MM)
So yeah. I guess I'll keep the S7. Smaller size has really felt good. It's a freaking great phone.
What do you guys think?
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Did the same thing too, sold off the N5 three days before it went on sale in my country, managed to score a last-minute pre-order for the S7, though I didn't get the color I wanted (black), but got gold instead.
Anyway, unlike you, I didn't like the Note 5. I actively despised its battery life, found its size too big, and also felt the S Pen was an inconvenience rather than something actually useful. However, there are a few things I've noticed with the two phones:
1. Standby performance is much better on the S7 than Note 5. Maybe it's because my Note 5 was on Lollipop, but despite multiple factory resets, adding a different Google account, etc, the phone never managed to drain under 1% an hour. Maybe the Exynos 8 Octa is helping.
2. Strangely, battery takes longer to charge on the S7. Not slightly longer, but noticeably longer. I remember my Note 5 would juice up from nearly dead to full in 70 minutes no matter what, while the S7 sneaks up closer to 100.
3. Speakers are worse on the S7 than Note 5 IMO, but would gladly pay that price for waterproofing.
4. Reception is also worse on the S7. This seems to be an issue mainly because my Note 5 was a single SIM model (N920I), while the S7 is dual (G930FD). I don't use both SIMs (my second slot has a 32GB Samsung EVO Plus SD card instead), so this was the biggest thing I gave up when switching.
5. Camera is almost exactly the same. Focus is much faster, field of view is wider, but when it comes to the actual quality, there's barely any difference, even in low light (have my dad's S6 edge+ to compare with).
6. And yeah, oh my god, I much prefer the S7's size. I don't have small hands by any means, and nearly bought the OG Nexus 6 a year and a half ago, so the Note 5 was well within what I defined as acceptable. But after using the Note 5 for 7 months, then coming back to a smaller phone, OMG it's so convenient. It's something you don't realize you want until you come back and you think you never wanna give up. Would gladly sell my S7 and get a mini version if that has a 4.8" display or less (any resolution is fine) while the rest of the specs are the same.*
*But despite that I'll probably buy big phones anyway if they match what I want

I made the switch and don't think I can go back to larger phone. I love the S7 size.
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Do I like it or not?

Hate to say it because of all the hype surrounding the release of the Note 7 but this phone is not impressing me so far. Sure the waterproofing and edge screen is pretty nice but besides that what do we have above and beyond the Note 5 or even the Note 4? The 7 seems a bit heavier, the edge screen is much easier to damage in the event of a screen down drop, battery life is terrible compared to the Note 4 I'm coming from, Bluetooth connections are not reliable at all with any player I have, speaker sound is not the greatest, and I find the touch screen to be not sensitive enough to the point I have to double and sometimes triple press the screen to select something. Really trying to like it but I don't know?
On the other hand, my wife got the S7 Edge and side by side there's not a huge difference in screen size. Also, her phone is much more responsive to touch input, no Bluetooth issues, bigger battery, and at the moment $150 cheaper than the Note 7 (2 year deal @ Best Buy). I'm contemplating a return to get the S7 Edge and put some cash in my pocket or returning it to wait for the new iphone 7 coming out in a few weeks? Or better yet reactivating my Note 4 which felt pretty good in my hand today when I fished it out of the drawer.
Just felt the need to post my concerns with this new wonder phone and see if anyone else is having second thoughts about their purchase?

I agree. The screen sensitivity is a real issue. Always accidentally selecting stuff when swiping and other times it's hard to select things.

dvdslw said:
Hate to say it because of all the hype surrounding the release of the Note 7 but this phone is not impressing me so far. Sure the waterproofing and edge screen is pretty nice but besides that what do we have above and beyond the Note 5 or even the Note 4? The 7 seems a bit heavier, the edge screen is much easier to damage in the event of a screen down drop, battery life is terrible compared to the Note 4 I'm coming from, Bluetooth connections are not reliable at all with any player I have, speaker sound is not the greatest, and I find the touch screen to be not sensitive enough to the point I have to double and sometimes triple press the screen to select something. Really trying to like it but I don't know?
On the other hand, my wife got the S7 Edge and side by side there's not a huge difference in screen size. Also, her phone is much more responsive to touch input, no Bluetooth issues, bigger battery, and at the moment $150 cheaper than the Note 7 (2 year deal @ Best Buy). I'm contemplating a return to get the S7 Edge and put some cash in my pocket or returning it to wait for the new iphone 7 coming out in a few weeks? Or better yet reactivating my Note 4 which felt pretty good in my hand today when I fished it out of the drawer.
Just felt the need to post my concerns with this new wonder phone and see if anyone else is having second thoughts about their purchase?
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I agree 100%
The blutooth issue is my biggest dislike with the phone. I'm giving Samsung/Sprint 14 days to hopefully push out an update to fix some of these problems otherwise it's gonna be the Galaxy S7 Edge for me.

LouRock said:
I agree 100%
The blutooth issue is my biggest dislike with the phone. I'm giving Samsung/Sprint 14 days to hopefully push out an update to fix some of these problems otherwise it's gonna be the Galaxy S7 Edge for me.
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I just returned from Best Buy with my old Note 4 re-activated and I seem happier now. It was tough not getting the S7 edge with the $199.00 deal BB has right now along with free gear watch or sd card but I'm going to hold out for the new iphone 7 and see what apple brings to the table before I decide.

dvdslw said:
I just returned from Best Buy with my old Note 4 re-activated and I seem happier now. It was tough not getting the S7 edge with the $199.00 deal BB has right now along with free gear watch or sd card but I'm going to hold out for the new iphone 7 and see what apple brings to the table before I decide.
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Each person has his/her own experience. At launch, it is tough to say what issues will last and what won't. The note7 has been great for me, and I'm not experiencing any of the lag, touch screen, bluetooth, or battery issues I've heard others complain of. If you can be happier with a cheaper phone, though, I always say, go for it!

mhill1986 said:
Each person has his/her own experience. At launch, it is tough to say what issues will last and what won't. The note7 has been great for me, and I'm not experiencing any of the lag, touch screen, bluetooth, or battery issues I've heard others complain of. If you can be happier with a cheaper phone, though, I always say, go for it!
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Same for me, its been fine for the most part. I didnt like the keyboard so downloaded google keyboard and that fixed typing problems. BT I've only used my headphones with no issue. Battery has been better that my note 4.
I use Nova launcher, package disabler, google keyboard and SD maid to keep it clean. So far its been good. I put animations at .5 from 1 and turned on force 2D GPU.

For me, battery life has been great and I've had no issues with bluetooth after 5 days of use (so far I've only connected my LG Tone to bluetooth). I'm coming from a Note 3, as opposed to most of you probably coming from a Note 4. I normally would've upgraded to the Note 5 following a 2 year pattern, but didn't for many reasons. It was an internal struggle for me to pull the trigger on the Note 7, but ultimately I couldn't resist. If my current phone was a Note 4 I probably would've waited for the Note 8 2017. At least Micro SD is back with the Note 7. And I'm surprisingly impressed with battery life, although I'm still very skeptical about it's longevity. I would've easily paid the same amount for the phone if they just put in a removable battery. The Edges do nothing for me except make me worry more about dropping my phone. I don't like the fact that it's narrower in width. I realize Samsung is trying to sell more units and suck in as many people as it can, but the Note was made to be a specialty powerhouse device. I personally feel that the regular S series phone should be the main flagship, the S series Edge should be the 2nd fall flagship that battles the Iphone, and the Note series should be geared toward the power users who truly appreciate the phone for it's function and not for it's gimmicks and style. I'm keeping the Note 7 for now, but I'll probably pick up a Note 4 just in case. Do I like it or not? It's still too early to tell, but the cons seem to outweigh the pros. FYI, if you're unhappy with the direction the Note series has been going the last 2 years, let Samsung know about it. I've been sending them suggestions since before the Note 5 was released, requesting a Note Classic version. It would build on from the Note 4 with the highest quality current hardware and software, completely unlocked, etc...

Thinking about selling my z fold 2(not a sale post)

I love this device . Best phone I ever owned . opening up to a tablet still feels like magic after months of owning it .but I'm thinking about selling it .why you ask ? Because I just had to pay 150 to get the inside screen replaced . I opened it up a week ago with a crack going down the left side of the screen .no issues with the lcd just the thin glass was cracked .I baby this phone .I don't take it out the house often .never gave dropped it or abused it in any way . And honestly would have felt better about the crack if I knew how it happened . But there it was and a week later I'm getting my fold 2 back tommorow . Now what to do ? Keep using it for who knows just for it to" magically "crack again and have to pay over 500 dollars to get it fixed again . I'm tempted to just trade it to someone for another phone plus cash . thoughts ??

I fully understand your thoughts. I think the novelty and excitement of having big screen at hand anytime I want is now gone. I am finding myself cleaning the inside screen every night, even if I didn't open the screen at all that day, I am just paranoid just to see the dust sitting on it. And there is dust all the time. The constant cleaning of fingerprints makes me mad. I did dropped my phone already when I had it for just 2 weeks, from about 2 feet to carpet floor!!! and the front screen cracked in the corner immediately. I have dropped my phones from that height before and nothing ever happened. Samsung replaced the screen next day for $130.00. I have owned every single Note phone from Note 1 and never was so scared about dropping the phone, scratches on the body or dust on the screen. I am really getting tired of it. Right before the Z Fold I bought Note 20 Ultra that I still keep just in case. I do compare the 2 phones often, and I do miss the S pen a lot. So, I think of selling the Z Fold as well. On top of this, there is no good protective case for the Fold at this time and given the design, I don't see good working functional case in the future. I am using Leather Flip Cover now, it's ok, but not perfect.
I have Book cover on the Note and it works much better. The size of the screen on Note 20 Ultra is not that much smaller than opened Z fold screen anyway. And the seam in the middle of the inner screen has now developed 2 weird bumps that starts to bother me. Well, tough decisions, since it looks like Samsung will probably kill the Note line in the future and go the Fold way anyway..

Update . Traded my z fold for a OnePlus 8 pro and a iPhone 12 pro max today so far no regrets and I'll get another fold one day . Fun device while I had it

Very difficult to go back to the regular screen for me personally
Me using 12 pro max too. So dont regret anything

juggamonkey said:
Update . Traded my z fold for a OnePlus 8 pro and a iPhone 12 pro max today so far no regrets and I'll get another fold one day . Fun device while I had it
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The oneplus 8 pro is the bomb. I've had one for a while and keep going back to it over my Note 20 Ultra. I've just recently re-entered the Fold 2 community because samsung is offering $1000 for my old Note 10 plus. Couldn't turn it down, lol.

juggamonkey said:
Update . Traded my z fold for a OnePlus 8 pro and a iPhone 12 pro max today so far no regrets and I'll get another fold one day . Fun device while I had it
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Hope you adapt to and enjoy your new device.
The Sammy Fold series continues to be a disaster. Betaware that forces the customer to suck up Samsung prototyping experimental issues of their imperfect folding technology.
Plus no SD card support, not water or dust proof and as a bonus it spontaneously self destructs, a real masterpiece (as Pappy Boyington would have said).
I don't fault you one bit for bailing; a wise move.

carlitos66 said:
I fully understand your thoughts. I think the novelty and excitement of having big screen at hand anytime I want is now gone. I am finding myself cleaning the inside screen every night, even if I didn't open the screen at all that day, I am just paranoid just to see the dust sitting on it. And there is dust all the time. The constant cleaning of fingerprints makes me mad. I did dropped my phone already when I had it for just 2 weeks, from about 2 feet to carpet floor!!! and the front screen cracked in the corner immediately. I have dropped my phones from that height before and nothing ever happened. Samsung replaced the screen next day for $130.00. I have owned every single Note phone from Note 1 and never was so scared about dropping the phone, scratches on the body or dust on the screen. I am really getting tired of it. Right before the Z Fold I bought Note 20 Ultra that I still keep just in case. I do compare the 2 phones often, and I do miss the S pen a lot. So, I think of selling the Z Fold as well. On top of this, there is no good protective case for the Fold at this time and given the design, I don't see good working functional case in the future. I am using Leather Flip Cover now, it's ok, but not perfect.
I have Book cover on the Note and it works much better. The size of the screen on Note 20 Ultra is not that much smaller than opened Z fold screen anyway. And the seam in the middle of the inner screen has now developed 2 weird bumps that starts to bother me. Well, tough decisions, since it looks like Samsung will probably kill the Note line in the future and go the Fold way anyway..
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im using Spigen thin armor pro for protection... best case i had so far and super sturdy... costs $90 tho.

I have a a Note 9 and I've been spending a lot of time debating the Note 20 Ultra vs the Fold 2 but can't make my mind up, I'm not considering the S21 since it loses micro SD and integrated S-pen but doesn't have anything like the folding screen to make up for it. Some users seem to find the appeal of the Fold 2 wears off but others find they can't go back to normal phones.
I've always loved the idea of the Fold and can live with the higher cost if I like the phone but it makes it pricey if I change my mind plus I lose the sd slot and spen and I am concerned about durability as there's a few posts about damaged screens like this one. I do appreciate that problems on forums are going to be exaggerated though.
I'm keen to hear on any other Fold 2 experiences.

Johnmcl7 said:
I have a a Note 9 and I've been spending a lot of time debating the Note 20 Ultra vs the Fold 2 but can't make my mind up, I'm not considering the S21 since it loses micro SD and integrated S-pen but doesn't have anything like the folding screen to make up for it. Some users seem to find the appeal of the Fold 2 wears off but others find they can't go back to normal phones.
I've always loved the idea of the Fold and can live with the higher cost if I like the phone but it makes it pricey if I change my mind plus I lose the sd slot and spen and I am concerned about durability as there's a few posts about damaged screens like this one. I do appreciate that problems on forums are going to be exaggerated though.
I'm keen to hear on any other Fold 2 experiences.
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The Note 9 is a good phone; I'm considering getting one.
The whole Fold series is problematic at best; born to die for sure.
The technology is far from where it needs to be.
A pretty thing if you can afford it and the high maintenance it will incur plus the sad lack of the SD card slot.
The 10+ running on Pie was Samsung's last good Note offering. The 512/12 4G is a rock solid platform with good battery life.
Problem is they're hard to come by and holding their value a bit too well.
At first I was irritated by the fixed 60hz display but now feel it is a blessing as the display is huge, drop dead gorgeous and as easy on the battery as a display this size can be.
I find no worrh while incentive to upgrade in hardware or firmware for the foreseeable future.
Pie is superior to Q in a number of ways. Both 10 and 11 are Android platforms I wish to avoid.
I'm not willing to take the performance hit or part with some of my favorite overlay apks.
Screw 10 and 11... and as for Goggle I want to deep six ditch them worse than FB.

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I have a a Note 9 and I've been spending a lot of time debating the Note 20 Ultra vs the Fold 2 but can't make my mind up, I'm not considering the S21 since it loses micro SD and integrated S-pen but doesn't have anything like the folding screen to make up for it. Some users seem to find the appeal of the Fold 2 wears off but others find they can't go back to normal phones.
I've always loved the idea of the Fold and can live with the higher cost if I like the phone but it makes it pricey if I change my mind plus I lose the sd slot and spen and I am concerned about durability as there's a few posts about damaged screens like this one. I do appreciate that problems on forums are going to be exaggerated though.
I'm keen to hear on any other Fold 2 experiences.
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I can only tell you from my experience, the fold 2 is a terrific phone IF:
- You are OK with dealing with a thick device
- You will need a case. Its glass and expensive, and with a lot of actual opening and closing maneuvers there is always a chance of slipping out of hand (well only happened twice for me, but still)
- Formfactor hinders case designs, I am using the slim armor pro which has awesome protection rating but 2 main Issues. One, it's expensive and difficult to find in my country and 2, it makes the phone bulky still.
- front screen is narrow but then that makes it easy to reach with one hand. I really don't have a problem here.
- no SD card support, I used to use a 400Gb card with my note 20 ultra, to store pics and videos. But with fold 2, I just realised I have almost 140GB free from a total of 256GB. No gimmicky 8k Video here (I never really enjoyed it in note 20 U, 4k with stabilisation was far superior). I also used to offload apps onto the micro SD card but each time the app updated, I had to manually move the apps again. I think 512GB Would suffice if you really need an sd card. It's my use case and yours could obviously be different.
But all things said, I love the phone. Every single person notices it and goes "WHAAAAATT??? AWESOME"... Some relate it to the Nokia communicators though (being narrow and thick)
About the fragility of the phone, well after I have started using the slim armor I have never babied the phone... heck I even dropped it more than a couple of times (in closed position). I have realised that the phone really isn't that flimsy... may be I got one from a good batch coz I hear horror stores, but that's where the warranty comes in ( well in my country samsung warranty is a lengthy process BTW).
Foldables and rollables will be a thing soon but they will remain top of the line for a few years.
I am an artist myself, I use the S pen to sketch and draw and for me spen is super useful, it's a shame that fold 2 can't use it. But I have a Samsung tab s4 just for that (was cheap and serves my purpose). IF you can wait for a few more months, I hear the fold 3 will support spen and if s pen is really important to you, why not get the note 20u now (prices have dropped) and get the fold 3 later? You could be saving quite a bit.

For what it's worth:
I was uncomfortable foraging into experimental phones again as I had the Note Edge. Tons of "nay sayers" then and it transformed future phones...
I am pleased I own this device!
There have always been voices against innovation as it begins its assent until it proves worthy in their personal experience.Same with the Z Fold 2...
Yes it's an expensive device, not as fragile as expected, bulky and heavier than my N10+, no "attached" Spen, though an absolute joy to use as it fits my needs: leaving ALL devices behind save this one for business and pleasure.
It's been in the 2-piece best designed case i could find since I pulled it out of the box (heard good things about Spigen though didn't want m o r e bulk) and have been using a wonderful stylus that duplicates most of the Spen without the cool tricks. I use a ring holder device stuck to the back which absolutely helps with weight and balance. Don't miss the SD card as got weened off dependancy owning a Note 5; great for convenience though many solutions abound (using a 1TB external drive). Since enrolling in Samsung's Device Buy Back Program this phone is more of a "lease" until the Z Fold 3.
Maybe I am blessed with no issues in the first month of ownership though most issues with phones are "operator errors" I've found in my experience owning mobile phones since 1991. Your mileage may vary... good luck. Peace

Thanks for posting your thoughts.
I can manage without an SD card and an S-pen but they are handy features and I have to accept I'll lose the notification light and headphone socket but it makes paying a good chunk of money for a new phone a bit less desirable when losing these. I'm generally happy with the Note 9 and the reason I'm considering these phones is to get the ultrawide lens, I was about to buy one for my camera at around £1300 but then started thinking maybe the money would be better spent on a phone with an ultrawide lens instead. I tend to find I like to leave the super telephoto lens on the camera and then just use the phone for normal wide angle shots since they tend not to benefit so much from the dedicated camera and I have a slightly older ultrawide setup I can use for property shoots or whatever.

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Thanks for posting your thoughts.
I can manage without an SD card and an S-pen but they are handy features and I have to accept I'll lose the notification light and headphone socket but it makes paying a good chunk of money for a new phone a bit less desirable when losing these. I'm generally happy with the Note 9 and the reason I'm considering these phones is to get the ultrawide lens, I was about to buy one for my camera at around £1300 but then started thinking maybe the money would be better spent on a phone with an ultrawide lens instead. I tend to find I like to leave the super telephoto lens on the camera and then just use the phone for normal wide angle shots since they tend not to benefit so much from the dedicated camera and I have a slightly older ultrawide setup I can use for property shoots or whatever.
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Hey man... the cameras on this device are good though the Note 10+
Johnmcl7 said:
Thanks for posting your thoughts.
I can manage without an SD card and an S-pen but they are handy features and I have to accept I'll lose the notification light and headphone socket but it makes paying a good chunk of money for a new phone a bit less desirable when losing these. I'm generally happy with the Note 9 and the reason I'm considering these phones is to get the ultrawide lens, I was about to buy one for my camera at around £1300 but then started thinking maybe the money would be better spent on a phone with an ultrawide lens instead. I tend to find I like to leave the super telephoto lens on the camera and then just use the phone for normal wide angle shots since they tend not to benefit so much from the dedicated camera and I have a slightly older ultrawide setup I can use for property shoots or whatever.
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Hey man, here's hoping you create the perfect lens set up for yourself! ;-) I don't know if it's my eye or the zf2 camera specs, seems my N10+ was a better shooter. Oh well...
BTW, I had spoken with ZF2 concierge regarding Edge Lighting +, (Good Lock and selfie camera light notifications), and he said with the new update coming it would be turned on for the unlocked Samsung devices. Hmm. We'll see. Peace

From what I've read that sounds right about the Fold 2's camera not being quite as good which also should really point me more towards the N20 Ultra.

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From what I've read that sounds right about the Fold 2's camera not being quite as good which also should really point me more towards the N20 Ultra.
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I have both note 20 U and zf2, I don't know why people think note 20 ultras cameras are better, quality wise?.. IMHO, they both are neck and neck.. ofcourse you miss 5x zoom, totally useless 24fps 8k and the ever so lovely DOF from the 108mp camera but that's it... quality wise they are both great... you would find it difficult to vote one over the other in a blind test..
Here, have attached few pics from one of my vacation trip recently taken with zf2.. the pickup one, increase brightness and go into a dark room... look at the stars.. I think these are good results..what do you think?

The Note 20 Ultra has better camera sensors than the Z Fold 2, I assume it was one of the compromises made on the Fold to keep the already high cost down. The dark shots posted don't really show much as they're severely underexposed which avoids using a higher iso setting which is an area the Note 20 is better at.

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The Note 20 Ultra has better camera sensors than the Z Fold 2, I assume it was one of the compromises made on the Fold to keep the already high cost down. The dark shots posted don't really show much as they're severely underexposed which avoids using a higher iso setting which is an area the Note 20 is better at.
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Dark shot wasn't shot in night mode, I used pro mode. I opted for that look. Yes you are correct n20U has bigger sensor but I don't care about the technicalities here. As a user who owns both (uses both with no partiality AT ALL, After all I paid for both), I don't see any perceivable difference except for the ones I mentioned in my previous post. All I am trying to say here is, if camera quality is your criteria then let it not be. There are other things I noticed while using both. One, the fold is a thick boy and you will notice it
in your pocket. And the weight is also much more than note 20U (your pinky finger will feel it on extended use when closed).. but the inner screen kind of makes up for it. Second, there is always this thought of fragility associated with fold2. I mean I know by now that it is pretty robust, still if I am passing it to a friend to look at, I tell them to be careful with the inner screen. Third, the cases for the zf2 are very very limited, I didn't have a case for 2 months and I can't tell you how scared and careful I was. and lastly, not many people will tell you this, but if you are watching anything more wider than 16:9, note 20 has the bigger picture than zf2 as note 20 u is taller than zf2 so in landscape mode, the almost square zf2 is restricted by the screen width in the x axis.
I use both the phones on a daily basis, and Let me tell you my honest opinion, as a phone n20u is awesome, but the moment you open the zf2 you are in bliss.

OP I respect the fact that you sold your phone and got a device that made you feel more comfortable. For anyone else interested, I'm coming from the OG Fold that I babied for months until I got comfortable with it. After having for almost a year, I was using Dex and upon disconnecting the HDMI cable the edge hit my screen and killed a few pixels. I should have had it folded shut and it never would have happened. I ended up getting it replaced under warranty as there was no other damage to the phone. They concluded it was just some dead pixels even though I told them what happened.
So now I've had my Fold 2 for a month. I love it even more and I do not set it down unless it's folded! But I will keep the insurance on my phone for the first time in many years. This is one of the few phones that it may actually be worth carrying the insurance, and that, along with the durability of the first Fold for over a year of use, gives me the piece of mind to carry this phone as a daily driver.

Johnmcl7 said:
I have a a Note 9 and I've been spending a lot of time debating the Note 20 Ultra vs the Fold 2 but can't make my mind up, I'm not considering the S21 since it loses micro SD and integrated S-pen but doesn't have anything like the folding screen to make up for it. Some users seem to find the appeal of the Fold 2 wears off but others find they can't go back to normal phones.
I've always loved the idea of the Fold and can live with the higher cost if I like the phone but it makes it pricey if I change my mind plus I lose the sd slot and spen and I am concerned about durability as there's a few posts about damaged screens like this one. I do appreciate that problems on forums are going to be exaggerated though.
I'm keen to hear on any other Fold 2 experiences.
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I've owned both, N20U and Fold2 at the same time. I traded in my Note 9 for an N20U. At the time, I was daily driving my Note 10 Plus. I traded in my Note 10 Plus for my Fold2. The battery life on my N20U was actually shorter than my Note 10 Plus. Disappointingly so. At 1440 or 1080 with adaptive, I was averaging 4.5H of SOT whereas I was averaging 6H on my Note 10 Plus. Anyhow, I ended up buying a Fold 2 for the novelty of it.
Pros
The folding and unfolding does not get old. It is magic each and every time.
Battery endurance (I'm averaging 5.5 to 6.5H of SOT at 1440 adaptive within 20-24H of usage in between charges).
Camera's are good.
Cons
Inner display cover is gross. It almost feels like you are using an old Windows phone with a resistive touch screen.
Camera's are not Sammy's best (N20U) and for the cost of the Fold, you want the best camera possible.
Dumb aspect ratios.
Fragility of design will always plague your mind.
I gave my N20U to my wife and she loves it as much as I love my Fold2. It is far from perfect, however it works for me and I am genuinely pleased with my overall experience.
I daily my Fold2. I've dropped it face down, closed and onto my hardwood floor without injury. I put it into my linty jean pockets with no issues. I'm not careless with it, however I've stopped babying it weeks ago and it is holding up just fine.
Hope this helps

I spotted a good deal on a brand new fold 2 and decided to give it a go, so far I absolutely love it. I'm still getting the hang of using apps on the outside and inside but it's such a lovely device to use when it's open it's worth the compromises.
Thanks for posting all your opinions on the two devices.