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Hey all,
I just wanted to give everyone a heads up about the lollipop update that just got to our Verizon variants of the One M8. My phone is completely stock, has never been rooted or s-off. I got the lollipop OTA update yesterday and after 45 mins of installing I couldn't wait to see how lollipop would improve my user experience on my phone. Short answer: it didn't AT ALL. The long answer is written out below.
1. Notifications
I don't really like the lollipop update to the notifications bar (1 swipe for notifications, 2 for settings) but its really just personal preference. However, with the update, you can no longer check your notifications directly from the lockscreen. You can't even see the icons of the new notifications at the top without unlocking your phone.
2. Lock Screen
Lock screen widgets are gone with the update. You also no longer have the option of swiping to the left for BlinkFeed, now its just a straight unlock that brings you to the page you last had open. No way to get to the homescreen directly like earlier. Now what the update did that really pisses me off is that you can no longer control your music from the lockscreen. With KitKat, you could skip tracks, and pause the song directly from the lockscreen. Now with the update you can't do any of those. You can't even swipe down from the lockscreen to see the media playing. Literally all you get is the album image of the song playing on your lockscreen. Yeah, just the image, you don't even get to see the name of the song playing.
3. Longer Boot Time
The boot time is longer now. Also once I get past the HTC and Verizon logo's while booting I get a dialogue box that says "Android is upgrading" before it goes to my homescreen. I'm not sure if this the case with everyone but it has happened to me everytime I reboot.
4. Just general unpleasantness
Recent apps takes longer to show all apps (I use grid view). Its quite minor and only noticeable if you compare it with a phone on KitKat but its still annoying. The Google Play Services update was also really annoying and it made my phone hang while it updated. The update also removed the World Clock Globe feature which was kinda cool, especially when I traveled. Again this is minor, but the update should improve the user experience not remove existing features.
Anyways, this is just my take on the lollipop update and it could be different for everyone. I, for one, am seriously considering downgrading back to KitKat (if its possible yet). I really hate it when an update takes my device in the backwards direction.
What did you guys think of the update?
I haven't had any issues with Lollipop on my M8. I've been running Lollipop on my Nexus 7 for months, so I'm already used to it. After getting familiar with it, I prefer it to KK. The slow boot time is probably due to the fact you has "fast boot" enabled on the previous version of Android. HTC has removed it from Lollipop.
UPDATE:
Going to Sound & Notification > When Device is Locked > Show all notifications fixes the notification grievances that I had listed.
just_lou,
I don't think FastBoot is the issue. I had it disabled when I was running KitKat. The issue is the dialogue box of "Android is Upgrading" that still shows up (I just rebooted to see if it shows and it did). I'm not sure if this will go away after a while or not.
tmtmaats said:
UPDATE:
Going to Sound & Notification > When Device is Locked > Show all notifications fixes the notification grievances that I had listed.
just_lou,
I don't think FastBoot is the issue. I had it disabled when I was running KitKat. The issue is the dialogue box of "Android is Upgrading" that still shows up (I just rebooted to see if it shows and it did). I'm not sure if this will go away after a while or not.
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If you are showing this repeated it means you either have an app installed that isn't art capable or your cache is corrupt. Backup and factory reset. You should not see that message on every boot.
Still think 4.4.4 is wayyyyy smoother than 5.0. Visually.... 5.0 is nice but its only a few you touches. I'm not impressed. Waste of an update. I'm on 5.0 ROMs which help but I miss my 4.4.4 snappiness lol.
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If you are showing this repeated it means you either have an app installed that isn't art capable or your cache is corrupt. Backup and factory reset. You should not see that message on every boot.
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ok I thought it shouldn't appear every time. so I went ahead and factory reset my phone after checking to make sure a backup was present. the most recent backup was about an hour before I updated to Lollipop, so I thought it would be fine in terms of having all the essential data. I used HTC Backup for the process.
Now after the reset, HTC backup can't find the backup when I click "Restore from cloud". All I see is "none" under the "Restore from Backup" option. Now I know for a fact that the backup file is saved on the cloud, I used Google Drive.
Is the phone unable to read that backup because it was done when the phone was running KitKat? If so, then begins the long task of restoring everything one by one.....
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ok I thought it shouldn't appear every time. so I went ahead and factory reset my phone after checking to make sure a backup was present. the most recent backup was about an hour before I updated to Lollipop, so I thought it would be fine in terms of having all the essential data. I used HTC Backup for the process.
Now after the reset, HTC backup can't find the backup when I click "Restore from cloud". All I see is "none" under the "Restore from Backup" option. Now I know for a fact that the backup file is saved on the cloud, I used Google Drive.
Is the phone unable to read that backup because it was done when the phone was running KitKat? If so, then begins the long task of restoring everything one by one.....
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No that should not be an issue. I have used it forward and backwards. Open play and then go back to HTC backup. Possible it's not looking in your Google account at all yet.
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No that should not be an issue. I have used it forward and backwards. Open play and then go back to HTC backup. Possible it's not looking in your Google account at all yet.
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I opened the Play Store and tried again. Backup still didn't show up. Then I deleted all the accounts on the phone and re-logged in. Still didn't show up. I went ahead and did another factory reset, reinstalled the HTC backup apk, logged in and opened the play store and tried to restore again. HTC backup still didn't find my backup. Then I double checked to make sure that I was using the right account with which I had done the backup. After confirming that, I tried once again deleting all accounts and signing in again and still nothing.
Finally, I tried to sync the account manually and then try. Still nothing.
I have used HTC backup in the past, and it worked fine to restore everything. Just this time it isn't.
Is there anything else I can try?
You know you can swipe right when locked and screen off to get blinkfeed right? Just have to decide now before you turn on the screen if you are planning to go to blinkfeed I guess.
I get my audio controls for Spotify on the lock screen too... With controls to play, pause, next. Just double tap the screen.
The grid recent apps seems to take longer because it's multiple screens of recent apps.
Just a quick tip but you can access your pulldown quick settings menu with the double finger down swipe when the screen is on at the lock screen. Useful for switching to silent or airplane mode without unlocking or using the volume hardware rocker.
That being said, my battery life isn't so great anymore and my GPS is skewed now (I'm always about 30-45 degrees of in the direction I'm facing).
Instead of using that crap "blinkfeed" launcher use the Google Launcher form the play store.
All,
First time poster, frequent visitor of XDA Forums. I've come across an odd issue that I don't know how to solve and I'm hoping some of you smarter than me folks can get me squared away.
I have a Galaxy S8+ from AT&T running Android 7.0 and Samsung Experience 8.1.
Problem:
I've recently noticed a delay or completely non-updating interface on my phone. It updates on occasion, but I can't determine what triggers an update. For example, I will pick up my phone from the desk and when I press the power button it shows the accurate time. When I unlock the device, the sense flip clock I use on the main home screen shows an earlier time (could be 30 minutes... could be a few hours). I don't believe it's just the Sense app because I noticed this issue where I checked a facebook messenger app that came and and when I closed the app, it still showed I had 1 notification. I went back in thinking I had another new message, but I didn't. So it was still hanging on to the notification. It happened a couple times with a text message as well. Most importantly, my calendar doesn't alert me prior to an appointment either, even though it's showing in my calendar and an alert is active. If I save an event, and exit, I can normally see the event appear on the on widget immediately as well... but that hasn't been happening. I have to press the widget to open it and confirm it is there (which it always is). Eventually it refreshes and shows up. But that delay is likely the reason why I'm not getting my alerts.
All of this did seem to happen after a recent update Samsung/AT&T pushed out but I don't know for sure. I tried clearing the cache from the boot menu but it doesn't seem there is wide success with that.
And perhaps I'm just not a good enough user, but everything isn't all backed up in the cloud so doing the factory reset to me is always a fairly large task as I have many things to manually transfer out and then back in. Not sure if there are great tools that help with this on a stock phone.
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try disabling battery optimization for those apps.
It seems that you have several bugs and if they all start happening after you have installed the latest update, then expect a patch coming soon.
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try disabling battery optimization for those apps.
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I have actually done that. Found very limited success. I'm also finding very few results on this topic. Surely it's not just me though.
And I'm dreading the idea of a hard reset as I have many things on my phones, not all of which is sync'd to the cloud so it's a task to back things up appropriate. Specifically regarding "encrypted" apps like my password keeper app etc.
It would be great if there was a software application that allowed you to backup whatever is necessary to not lose data, then wipe the phone and instead of just simply restoring the full phone (which is likely to create the same problem one had before the hard reset), you could simply dump back in app data as needed. It would also help diagnose if the problem lies in a specific app's data.
High level overview of issues...
I have the Ring Doorbell app. I get notifications after "live". Could be 5 minutes, could be 1 hour... or possibly not at all. I have the app setup on my wife's iPhone and she gets them immediately. If I restart the phone, I will get notified right away (it's like it runs the app again and then I get the notification). Keep in mind, this is AFTER i disabled the battery optimization feature for the Ring app.
I also notice it occasionally with texting. I won't have any text notification in the notification panel, nor will my messaging icon have a little red circle indicating a message is there. But if I open the app, a specification conversation will have a red circle indicating a new text is unread.
All of this is leading me to believe the Samsung UI itself is not updating and therefore notifications that actually have arrived (from whatever app), are not displaying because of the UI and not because of their own delay.
Because of this concern I have turned off battery optimization for "System UI", "Themes", and "TouchWiz Home". I have not seen any change however.
[Solved]
I was able to determine by various other threads around the web (thought for sure I'd find it here, but I didn't) that the culprit might be the Google app. Supposedly it was fixed in some prior release, but it's not on my Galaxy S8+ w/ AT&T.
Once I disabled the Google app all the odd issues with notifications and clock interfaces and app icons not updating went away. The downside to disabling it is that I lose the Google Assistant functionality which stinks but otherwise there is no impact to using the phone. I re-enabled it at a later date and it worked fine for a few days and then started acting up again. Once I disabled it, the problems all disappeared. Clearly Google app is to blame.
All,
First time poster, frequent visitor of XDA Forums. I've come across an odd issue that I don't know how to solve and I'm hoping some of you smarter than me folks can get me squared away.
I have a Galaxy S8+ from AT&T running Android 7.0 and Samsung Experience 8.1.
Problem:
I've recently noticed a delay or completely non-updating interface on my phone. It updates on occasion, but I can't determine what triggers an update. For example, I will pick up my phone from the desk and when I press the power button it shows the accurate time. When I unlock the device, the sense flip clock I use on the main home screen shows an earlier time (could be 30 minutes... could be a few hours). I don't believe it's just the Sense app because I noticed this issue where I checked a facebook messenger app that came and and when I closed the app, it still showed I had 1 notification. I went back in thinking I had another new message, but I didn't. So it was still hanging on to the notification. It happened a couple times with a text message as well. Most importantly, my calendar doesn't alert me prior to an appointment either, even though it's showing in my calendar and an alert is active. If I save an event, and exit, I can normally see the event appear on the on widget immediately as well... but that hasn't been happening. I have to press the widget to open it and confirm it is there (which it always is). Eventually it refreshes and shows up. But that delay is likely the reason why I'm not getting my alerts.
All of this did seem to happen after a recent update Samsung/AT&T pushed out but I don't know for sure. I tried clearing the cache from the boot menu but it doesn't seem there is wide success with that.
And perhaps I'm just not a good enough user, but everything isn't all backed up in the cloud so doing the factory reset to me is always a fairly large task as I have many things to manually transfer out and then back in. Not sure if there are great tools that help with this on a stock phone.
Samsung smart switch works wonders, the only thing that doesn't restore is passwords, you have to have and external SD card for it to work, or plug it in to a computer
talonpetty said:
All,
First time poster, frequent visitor of XDA Forums. I've come across an odd issue that I don't know how to solve and I'm hoping some of you smarter than me folks can get me squared away.
I have a Galaxy S8+ from AT&T running Android 7.0 and Samsung Experience 8.1.
Problem:
I've recently noticed a delay or completely non-updating interface on my phone. It updates on occasion, but I can't determine what triggers an update. For example, I will pick up my phone from the desk and when I press the power button it shows the accurate time. When I unlock the device, the sense flip clock I use on the main home screen shows an earlier time (could be 30 minutes... could be a few hours). I don't believe it's just the Sense app because I noticed this issue where I checked a facebook messenger app that came and and when I closed the app, it still showed I had 1 notification. I went back in thinking I had another new message, but I didn't. So it was still hanging on to the notification. It happened a couple times with a text message as well. Most importantly, my calendar doesn't alert me prior to an appointment either, even though it's showing in my calendar and an alert is active. If I save an event, and exit, I can normally see the event appear on the on widget immediately as well... but that hasn't been happening. I have to press the widget to open it and confirm it is there (which it always is). Eventually it refreshes and shows up. But that delay is likely the reason why I'm not getting my alerts.
All of this did seem to happen after a recent update Samsung/AT&T pushed out but I don't know for sure. I tried clearing the cache from the boot menu but it doesn't seem there is wide success with that.
And perhaps I'm just not a good enough user, but everything isn't all backed up in the cloud so doing the factory reset to me is always a fairly large task as I have many things to manually transfer out and then back in. Not sure if there are great tools that help with this on a stock phone.
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Go to settings and check if your time is setup to adjust automatically.
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norbarb said:
Go to settings and check if your time is setup to adjust automatically.
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That is not the issue. As mentioned, it's not just the clock it's multiple interfaces.
norbarb said:
Go to settings and check if your time is setup to adjust automatically.
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That is not the issue. As mentioned, it's not just the clock it's multiple apps/interfaces.
High level overview of issues...
I have the Ring Doorbell app. I get notifications after "live". Could be 5 minutes, could be 1 hour... or possibly not at all. I have the app setup on my wife's iPhone and she gets them immediately. If I restart the phone, I will get notified right away (it's like it runs the app again and then I get the notification). Keep in mind, this is AFTER i disabled the battery optimization feature for the Ring app.
I also notice it occasionally with texting. I won't have any text notification in the notification panel, nor will my messaging icon have a little red circle indicating a message is there. But if I open the app, a specification conversation will have a red circle indicating a new text is unread.
All of this is leading me to believe the Samsung UI itself is not updating and therefore notifications that actually have arrived (from whatever app), are not displaying because of the UI and not because of their own delay.
Because of this concern I have turned off battery optimization for "System UI", "Themes", and "TouchWiz Home". I have not seen any change however.
[Solved]
I was able to determine by various other threads around the web (thought for sure I'd find it here, but I didn't) that the culprit might be the Google app. Supposedly it was fixed in some prior release, but it's not on my Galaxy S8+ w/ AT&T.
Once I disabled the Google app all the odd issues with notifications and clock interfaces and app icons not updating went away. The downside to disabling it is that I lose the Google Assistant functionality which stinks but otherwise there is no impact to using the phone. I re-enabled it at a later date and it worked fine for a few days and then started acting up again. Once I disabled it, the problems all disappeared. Clearly Google app is to blame.
Hi everyone.
My wife has an S8 and recently she has noticed that she hasn't been receiving notification on Facebook messenger.
Me thinking it was an easy problem to solve went into the phone setting clicked on notifications and found that the notifications for the app were all on how they should be.
Then I went into the app settings and checked there and everything was right.
Then I restarted the phone and it still wouldn't work.
Then I uninstalled and reinstalled the app and still no success
I even got my phone out an S7E and checked how the settings should look on mine and hers matched my settings.
All her other apps are working except this one.
Am I missing something here, because it doesn't make any sense why it's not working. I performed a stock flash on the device about a month ago to 3 software, so she could have wifi calling but I don't see how this could of affected this one app and none of the others.
If anyone has any suggestions here I am all ears because I am out of ideas.
Make sure that it's not being forced close by the S8's onboard memory manager... sometimes it shuts down apps and you won't get notifications. Double check in the battery settings (you can get there from settings or the swipe panel) to see if the Messenger app itself is active.
Praetore said:
Make sure that it's not being forced close by the S8's onboard memory manager... sometimes it shuts down apps and you won't get notifications. Double check in the battery settings (you can get there from settings or the swipe panel) to see if the Messenger app itself is active.
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Cool thank you for the reply, I will try it and keep you posted...but what setting am I looking for when I get to the battery settings.
Owenboy89 said:
Hi everyone.
My wife has an S8 and recently she has noticed that she hasn't been receiving notification on Facebook messenger.
Me thinking it was an easy problem to solve went into the phone setting clicked on notifications and found that the notifications for the app were all on how they should be.
Then I went into the app settings and checked there and everything was right.
Then I restarted the phone and it still wouldn't work.
Then I uninstalled and reinstalled the app and still no success
I even got my phone out an S7E and checked how the settings should look on mine and hers matched my settings.
All her other apps are working except this one.
Am I missing something here, because it doesn't make any sense why it's not working. I performed a stock flash on the device about a month ago to 3 software, so she could have wifi calling but I don't see how this could of affected this one app and none of the others.
If anyone has any suggestions here I am all ears because I am out of ideas.
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Hi people, I seem to have solved the problem.
I followed the suggestion and went to the battery setting. In those setting there was an option for unmonitored and monitored apps. When checking the list of apps that were in these setting everything was right, including the messenger app in unmonitered app section. I removed it from that list and didn't bother adding it back.
Tested.........and it worked....I even got other people to message her in different situtations and it worked and still works.....not added it back in to the list yet, as long as it keeps working I prob won't
Hi,
after updating my HTC U11 to the official HTC Android Pie Europe release, so far the only real problem i found is, that for some reason the commute notification of google maps are now shown as a notification within a notification. Before the updated they worked fine. If you don´t know what that is supposed to mean, see here:
imgur.com/SQ27lSW
So far that only happens to the commute notifications. Pressing on either of the settings buttons only leads to the commute settings where i can disable the notification completly, which is not what i want.
Before the update it was only one notification with the map in a size where you could actually see something straight from the notification.
I already tried deactivating the function and activating it a few days later withouth any difference. I also tried clearing the cache and data, as it is set as a system app so that is the closest i could get to an uninstall.
As far as i know, i can´t really make a useful bug report through the app itself, as it is a notification i can hardyl make a screenshot of with the integrated bug report tool.
I also tried looking at the notification logs, but could´t see anything out of the ordinary with my simple knowledge of it: imgur.com/Fk9U0dk
After living with this "problem" for the last few months, I wanted to see if someone had the same problem and maybe found a solution in the mean time, which lead me here in the hope of finding such an answer
Thanks in advance for your help
Hi.
Last week I decided to reflash my U11, it's a Europe Pie version too, aka HTC__034. I had several bugs, with apps crashing like Google Assistant, the Dialer (unable to type a number or letter) and others. Flashing the RUU went fine and I got rid of those bugs, and even got better SOT than before (from 4 to 5 hours).
Reading your message, I just realized that I also got rid of another bug I had with the Google Phone dialer app. It also had such nested notifications when I received a call. Now it works fine.
So maybe flashing the RUU could solve your problem.
Hi kurtschmeichel,
thanks for the quick answer.
From what i read, flashing the RUU also clears all your data and settings, or did I get that wrong? As this is currently the only "problem" I have, I think I will not take this route as this entails a lot of reconfiguring.
Yes your phone will be "like new". You have to backup ALL your data before flashing a RUU.