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I dont see a lot of chatter about 60fps recording on the latest batch of 720/1080p recording smart phones.. Is it even possible or just a matter of hardware limitations? Im just curious if we could see a future hack enabling 60fps or do we wait for manufacturers to offer it. thanks!
That would be SICK... But I don't think it'd be possible due to the size of the camera sensor in most mobile phones.
i just know that the HTC Bass (Runnymede) will be able to do 720p recording at 60fps.
afaik, there are no known phones that can do [email protected] currently.
socalwrx said:
I dont see a lot of chatter about 60fps recording on the latest batch of 720/1080p recording smart phones.. Is it even possible or just a matter of hardware limitations? Im just curious if we could see a future hack enabling 60fps or do we wait for manufacturers to offer it. thanks!
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Sounds like James Cameron's dream phone, to me. Cameron is pushing for the movie industry to adopt a minimum 60fp/s for movies.
is 60fps the limit? cant it go any higher?
Really isn't much benefit in going higher except for Video/Sports analysis, TBH. For just watching stuff, 60 FPS is good enough.
I understand that for general recording/watching 30fps is plenty. 24fps even.. Id just be interested for some cool slo-mo effects. even if it were capped at a short time due to the size of the file. Im just wondering if its hardware limitations (video encoding of the chipset, size of the sensor as previously mentioned) or just a matter of software tweaking; forcing the phone to record/encode @ 60fps.
I had an older LG phone that had a slo-mo effect that looked cool but quality took a big hit.
socalwrx said:
I understand that for general recording/watching 30fps is plenty. 24fps even.. Id just be interested for some cool slo-mo effects. even if it were capped at a short time due to the size of the file. Im just wondering if its hardware limitations (video encoding of the chipset, size of the sensor as previously mentioned) or just a matter of software tweaking; forcing the phone to record/encode @ 60fps.
I had an older LG phone that had a slo-mo effect that looked cool but quality took a big hit.
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agree
even if games / videos were made to run 60 fps, it's a waste of power
there's no point pushing more than 30 frames when human eyes can barely keep up with less than that
AllGamer said:
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even if games / videos were made to run 60 fps, it's a waste of power
there's no point pushing more than 30 frames when human eyes can barely keep up with less than that
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Don't agree at all. The difference is big and is easily proven. Seems to be some kind of urban legend that eyes cannot perceive faster movement than around 24-30fps
Check for example these example videos (using a modern browser on a modern PC).
http://www.boallen.com/fps-compare.html
tjtj4444 said:
Don't agree at all. The difference is big and is easily proven. Seems to be some kind of urban legend that eyes cannot perceive faster movement than around 24-30fps
Check for example these example videos (using a modern browser on a modern PC).
http://www.boallen.com/fps-compare.html
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This is an age old debate and is far more complex than that one example can cover. For video playback where you can't resolve individual frames though, 30 fps is more than enough.
Yes, we all like to see those beautiful bullet time type videos shot with fast cameras, but there are limitations other than processing power. In this case it's optical. The faster you shoot, the better lit the scene needs to be and the better the light gathering ability of the optics. Perfectly easy to overcome when you're lighting the scene and using proper hardware. Not so good when you're using a phone to do the shooting though!
I don't see the point of 1080p/60fps until they can do 1080p/30fps properly
Also better optics before moving onto anything else
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This is an age old debate and is far more complex than that one example can cover. For video playback where you can't resolve individual frames though, 30 fps is more than enough.
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Sorry but I don't agree at all, and your post doesn't include one single argument for you statement so it doesn't make any change.
30 fps looks ok, but 60fps video looks more fluid. It is very obvious in fast moving videos, e g sports.
I know that movies are made for 24fps and have "motion blur" to remove the problems with low frame rate, and some people prefere this motion blur (i e movie captured with small aperture) but that is a matter of taste and doesn't change what looks more fluid or not.
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That all depends on the GPU. Maybe the powervr sgx 543 can, seems the most plausible of all the GPUs available.
So those can shoot @60fps:
-LG G2
-Note 3
-HTC One (720p only)
Does anybody know more devices?
Maybe Nexus 5 after some camera hack...? I would buy if it had 1080p60
Samsung Galaxy S4 and S5 can record 60fps video as well
Hey everyone, hope you're all having a great weekend
Recently I've been tinkering with my One X and have realized that it is extremely capable of recording videos in slow motion at 720p as opposed to 480p. I know this may sound like a question but it is also developer related hence being placed here. Now, my question to our awesome Devs is, can you enable the One X to record at 720p at slow motion? Same frame rate as the current slow motion but just higher resolution, now that it's been out for two years it shouId be possible. And don't worry about the power demands, I may have just found a way to utilize the Tegra 3's full potential! I'll let you know if it works, thank you
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And don't worry about the power demands, I may have just found a way to utilize the Tegra 3's full potential! I'll let you know if it works, thank you
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How's that?
aleksandar.1 said:
How's that?
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Lock all four cores to ON, and disable the companion core. The GPU at 400-520mhz helps too. It is especially noticeable in YouTube videos, you may notice there is a delay and slight lag normally, the above settings will make the whole device buttery smooth. During Slow motion video recording force all four cores on, and temporarily set the cpu to 1.4ghz, the smoothness is shocking. I honestly believe the phone is capable of 720p slow motion
I'm not sure how to to about this. One thing I really care about on a phone I purchase is video recording quality, more specifically 1080p/60fps and slow motion. Unfortunately, the Galaxy s7 has an issue with both of these.
You know how the Galaxy s7 focuses pretty much instantly when recording video in 1080p, 1440p, or 4k? Well, it doesn't happen in the 60fps mode. The focus is even slower than my s6 in 60fps and there is tons of "focus hunting" where it bounces back and forth between focus as you're recording. Focus is literally perfect in any mode besides 60fps.
Then we have an issue with 240fps slow motion where there are a ton of frame skips throughout the video (just YouTube s7 slow motion videos to see what I'm talking about).
These two issues are huge for me. It's unfortunate because I love everything else about the phone. How can we make Samsung aware of these issues?
Snapdragon or Exynos?
brian85 said:
just YouTube s7 slow motion videos to see what I'm talking about
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A direct link would help, I'm not finding anything.
I confirm this too, exynos club. Slow focus in 1080 60fps
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I don't seem to be having any issues...I may be one of the lucky ones. S7e verizon
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Does your low-light performance take a hit on the slow motion recording? Because mine does... is this normal for slow motion recording?
Don't see this issue on sd820
Well, i can confirm the slower focus on my G935F (maybe double the time as the normal camera focus), but no skipped frames.
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Does your low-light performance take a hit on the slow motion recording? Because mine does... is this normal for slow motion recording?
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It probably would take a hit as you're using a slower shutter speed to achieve slow motion.
rodnii said:
Does your low-light performance take a hit on the slow motion recording? Because mine does... is this normal for slow motion recording?
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Of course it does. The shutter speed allows half as much light to reach the sensor. This cannot be altered, except to post-process the video on a computer and apply some heavy noise reduction (with the corresponding drop in sharpness).
has anyone a video from the issue? (youtube maybe)
I just noticed stuttering in my slow motion recording..
Many people are starting to tell Samsung about this issue on Twitter.
i have stuttering/jittery in my videos in all modes , they r less in de low reso's but when going higher reso's its gets it alot. the easiest way to achieve the jitter/stutter is moving left/right & up/down with the handset, if your keeping the handset still there's no problem can anyone confirm this by trying ?
The flickering from my flourescent lighting is awful on the slowmo video. This is usually corrected by software so I was very surprised to see it. I'd forgive this if there weren't so many frame drops going on as well. The slowmo video on Snapdragon devices is basically broken. Unfortunately, Samsung has not made an official statement acknowledging the issue. It will require more people to report it.
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I'm not sure how to to about this. One thing I really care about on a phone I purchase is video recording quality, more specifically 1080p/60fps and slow motion. Unfortunately, the Galaxy s7 has an issue with both of these.
You know how the Galaxy s7 focuses pretty much instantly when recording video in 1080p, 1440p, or 4k? Well, it doesn't happen in the 60fps mode. The focus is even slower than my s6 in 60fps and there is tons of "focus hunting" where it bounces back and forth between focus as you're recording. Focus is literally perfect in any mode besides 60fps.
Then we have an issue with 240fps slow motion where there are a ton of frame skips throughout the video (just YouTube s7 slow motion videos to see what I'm talking about).
These two issues are huge for me. It's unfortunate because I love everything else about the phone. How can we make Samsung aware of these issues?
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it seems like 1080p 60fps mode doesn't really make use of Dual Pixel phase detection.. it felts more like contrast detection to me.. there might be chance that Dual Pixel are not supported in 60fps mode.. keep our finger crossed.
I'm not sure how to to about this. One thing I really care about on a phone I purchase is video recording quality, more specifically 1080p/60fps and slow motion. Unfortunately, the Galaxy s7 has an issue with both of these.
You know how the Galaxy s7 focuses pretty much instantly when recording video in 1080p, 1440p, or 4k? Well, it doesn't happen in the 60fps mode. The focus is even slower than my s6 in 60fps and there is tons of "focus hunting" where it bounces back and forth between focus as you're recording. Focus is literally perfect in any mode besides 60fps.
Then we have an issue with 240fps slow motion where there are a ton of frame skips throughout the video (just YouTube s7 slow motion videos to see what I'm talking about).
These two issues are huge for me. It's unfortunate because I love everything else about the phone. How can we make Samsung aware of these issues?
brian85 said:
I'm not sure how to to about this. One thing I really care about on a phone I purchase is video recording quality, more specifically 1080p/60fps and slow motion. Unfortunately, the Galaxy s7 has an issue with both of these.
You know how the Galaxy s7 focuses pretty much instantly when recording video in 1080p, 1440p, or 4k? Well, it doesn't happen in the 60fps mode. The focus is even slower than my s6 in 60fps and there is tons of "focus hunting" where it bounces back and forth between focus as you're recording. Focus is literally perfect in any mode besides 60fps.
Then we have an issue with 240fps slow motion where there are a ton of frame skips throughout the video (just YouTube s7 slow motion videos to see what I'm talking about).
These two issues are huge for me. It's unfortunate because I love everything else about the phone. How can we make Samsung aware of these issues?
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for frame skips, you recording to SD card or internal? do internal for something like that; probably hte sd card not being able to keep up with r/w speeds.
if you're doing internal, then i have no idea lol
Same here. Internal or SD does not matter. Just tested. 1440p / 4k works great. It's the 60fps which seems to make the focus slow...
I agree with this. I recorded slow motion to my external and internal storage and both skip and are choppy.
Here's a sample video I took
https://youtu.be/qgYfoxudl74
easiest way: write an email to samsung, all of you for your own. they won't do anything if somebody says "well on xda there are 10 people complaining and 200 people clicked like".
also prepare to go through the 2-3 standard email answers (reset your phone, do the auto update blabla) no matter what you write. just keep pursuing and after the 4th email it'll take 1-2 weeks for an answer and than you're hooked to the right guy.
HTCMDA said:
I agree with this. I recorded slow motion to my external and internal storage and both skip and are choppy.
Here's a sample video I took
https://youtu.be/qgYfoxudl74
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Cute dog, btw!
I'm having issues with my video recording in every department. All my videos look like crap, very grainy, i wouldn't even consider any of what i have recorded as high def. 4K, joke! Everyone of them is a joke. I honestly wish i hadn't traded in my S6, the 4K video recording on the S6 was the bomb. I displayed a concert i recorded while in a dark floor mind you onto a Samsung 65" 4K tv & it was flawless. I couldn't believe what i was seeing blown up onto this 65" screen. It was amazing. Now the S7 recording, i'm embarrassed to even upload videos to youtube. Here's an example. This was shot during full daylight in 4K with the S7. Everything is washed out looking & grainy. Certainly not 4k worthy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWKZfxBP4UQ
After watching that now watch something i recorded with the s6 in 4K, HUGE difference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTwAC6gBA1A
I have dual 27" 1440p monitors, what ever resolution monitor you have display it in what suits you best
Samsung response to focus problems of the S7 video in 60fps
I've asked Samsung (NL) for a response. First they've told me they will look into it, because the problem should not have been present on all devices.
Later they've added it's a hardware issue and can not be solved by a software update. So no solution: S7 has crappy 60 fps video so live with it.
Very dissapointing. 60fps is one of the features I've needed for recording. A big let down from Samsung.
I think the problem is with the isocell camera sensor. Sony sensor seems to be working fine
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supersepian said:
I think the problem is with the isocell camera sensor. Sony sensor seems to be working fine
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Are you guys using SD 820 or Exynos?
I have no issues on an Exynos/IsoCell combo with graininess and choppy slow mo.
However the focus is indeed slower in 60 FPS.
I am using isocell sensor . Focus is very good in all recording settings except full HD 60fps. My friend's galaxy s7 with sony sensor is working fine
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Exynos / rear: Sony / front: SLSI (Samsung). Choppy happend sometimes (after restart it is ok). Slow focus all the time.
Looks like Phone can not handle the data storage or cpu speed to manage more multiple fps. Which results in slow focus...
I use QHD or UHD which does not have any problems at all...
Hello,
I've made a lot research on google concerning the quality of the video recording about this phone.
All of the vids that i saw on YT are laggy / choppy in 4k resolution. Especially when panning. This is really not smooth and hard to see.
I'm really interested to buy this phone for his pictures quality.
Could you tell me if you have the same problem with your phones ? Some says that it causes by the weak chipset in it ( snapdragon 730g ), it's just the limitation of the system.
Thanks a lot.
Regards,
Juan27 said:
Hello,
I've made a lot research on google concerning the quality of the video recording about this phone.
All of the vids that i saw on YT are laggy / choppy in 4k resolution. Especially when panning. This is really not smooth and hard to see.
I'm really interested to buy this phone for his pictures quality.
Could you tell me if you have the same problem with your phones ? Some says that it causes by the weak chipset in it ( snapdragon 730g ), it's just the limitation of the system.
Thanks a lot.
Regards,
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On 20.3.5 i can say 4k videos are not choppy or skipping but when panning the effect is more similar to tearing.
Better stay on 1080p for videos.
Juan27 said:
Hello,
I've made a lot research on google concerning the quality of the video recording about this phone.
All of the vids that i saw on YT are laggy / choppy in 4k resolution. Especially when panning. This is really not smooth and hard to see.
I'm really interested to buy this phone for his pictures quality.
Could you tell me if you have the same problem with your phones ? Some says that it causes by the weak chipset in it ( snapdragon 730g ), it's just the limitation of the system.
Thanks a lot.
Regards,
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Unfortunately videos are extremely laggy / choppy, even at 1080p 30fps when EIS is turned on. Without it, it's shaky, so there's no good solution. I don't know the reason, but it's very annoying, since they sell it (and i bought it) as a camera phone.
I've already asked around in this topic, you can also find 3 video samples that were recorded at 1080p 30fps : https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-note-10/help/laggy-videos-1080p-30fps-t4030027/amp/
I would say, it's a great phone, photo and video image quality is outsanding, but videos are laggy. Don't buy it if you are into video recording. Since updates are rare, i've lost my hope that Xiaomi would somehow solve this problem. (However: even the new Mi 10 and Mi 10 pro have stutters in their videos. They have flagship hardware, so it could be a software related issue, that could be solved through some update.)
I think the same, it might be software issue, so try recording google camera? Open camera?
EIS is horrible that's why phones like Mi 8 with OIS and no EIS destroys everything that followed, there's no workaround EIS frame drops, flickering, lags & stutters, if you need the best video stabilization on market you should go for Samsung's SuperSteady implementation