Hello Community!!
I have owned many androids over the years, and have recently got an S6, hoping to dive back into the game of rooting, modding and messing around until my phones works the way i want it to. There are MANY things that really Piss me off about my T-MObile variant of the S6, including the horrible battery life, bloatware, and lack of personality. I Really would love to root my device, but KNOX. OMG what is this?! If i Root, no Samsung pay? What other downsides are there to rooting? But recently, my phone installed "ANdroid Pay" SO I am thinking, I should just root, forget Samsung pay and just use Google pay or whatever they call it.
As you guys can tell from my sig, I have been very inactive on these forums. I am hoping someone can give me some advice here---
Thanks So much
EMilio
beforedenied said:
Hello Community!!
I have owned many androids over the years, and have recently got an S6, hoping to dive back into the game of rooting, modding and messing around until my phones works the way i want it to. There are MANY things that really Piss me off about my T-MObile variant of the S6, including the horrible battery life, bloatware, and lack of personality. I Really would love to root my device, but KNOX. OMG what is this?! If i Root, no Samsung pay? What other downsides are there to rooting? But recently, my phone installed "ANdroid Pay" SO I am thinking, I should just root, forget Samsung pay and just use Google pay or whatever they call it.
As you guys can tell from my sig, I have been very inactive on these forums. I am hoping someone can give me some advice here---
Thanks So much
EMilio
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There are pros and cons to root.
The first pro is limitless customizations and personalizations.
The first con is OTA updates get disabled.
Another pro is you are able to dramatically improve battery and overall performance using various apps.
Another con is your warranty will be void, assuming you tripped KNOX.
If you trip KNOX, Samsung Pay no longer works; if you have root (even without touching KNOX) Android Pay does not work.
I obtained root just to prove to myself it could be done.
Since then there have been dramatic improvements with speed and battery life.
Package Disabler Pro can freeze a lot of the bloatware without root: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en
Hi,
It's a highly personal decision. I myself for the first time am holding on rooting - I was the one who made the most famous Xoom rooting tool and also S4 Linux Root Script, so that tells a lot. The thing is, meanwhile my device is satisfying my needs, and I'm really curious about Samsung Pay, as it has a way wider support than Android Pay and other systems.
The best thing about rooting in my opinion was the endless system customization - specially after Xposed was released. The way better data management I had, better system control and some exclusive apps that require root or works better with root. If you are really pissed about Samsung TouchWiz apps and system "features", rooting would be a nice idea. Just keep in mind that after rooting Knox will be tripped and there's no turning back with Knox. Depending on your country, Knox trip also means warranty void, because once rooted you can unroot and make it looks like nothing happened.
Just adding what was already said, but Android Pay doesn't work with root.
All the best,
~Lord
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XxLordxX said:
Hi,
It's a highly personal decision. I myself for the first time am holding on rooting - I was the one who made the most famous Xoom rooting tool and also S4 Linux Root Script, so that tells a lot. The thing is, meanwhile my device is satisfying my needs, and I'm really curious about Samsung Pay, as it has a way wider support than Android Pay and other systems.
The best thing about rooting in my opinion was the endless system customization - specially after Xposed was released. The way better data management I had, better system control and some exclusive apps that require root or works better with root. If you are really pissed about Samsung TouchWiz apps and system "features", rooting would be a nice idea. Just keep in mind that after rooting Knox will be tripped and there's no turning back with Knox. Depending on your country, Knox trip also means warranty void, because once rooted you can unroot and make it looks like nothing happened.
Just adding what was already said, but Android Pay doesn't work with root.
All the best,
~Lord
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Rooting doesn't allways mean tripped knox. I have my G920F rooted and knox intact. This can be done even after updrade to 5.1.1 stok firmware.
An android phone for me is worthless without root permissions. I need it for:
adaway adds
iptables (firewall)
better battery life (debloat)
titanium backup
JuanRamiro said:
Rooting doesn't allways mean tripped knox. I have my G920F rooted and knox intact. This can be done even after updrade to 5.1.1 stok firmware.
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I was only aware of root that can be applied before upgrade to 5.1.1.
Can you advise how you applied root after 5.1.1? Thanks.
Iceman_jkh said:
I was only aware of root that can be applied before upgrade to 5.1.1.
Can you advise how you applied root after 5.1.1? Thanks.
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Just install de 5.0.2 engineering bootloader via ODIN. Then instal TRWP via ODIN.
After this two steps you can flash whatever you want via TRWP.
Edit: with the 5.0.2 bootloader you will loose fingerprint scanner, the rest works great, at least with the custom rom I am using.
JuanRamiro said:
Just install de 5.0.2 engineering bootloader via ODIN. Then instal TRWP via ODIN.
After this two steps you can flash whatever you want via TRWP.
Edit: with the 5.0.2 bootloader you will loose fingerprint scanner, the rest works great, at least with the custom rom I am using.
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Keep in mind this engineering bootloader does not work with all variants. For example there is no Eng Bootloader for the Canadian phones.
Thank you both. I have the international SM-G920F (technically it's the dual Sim version, SM-G920FD, (from United Arab Emirates)).
So, to confirm, would the eng boot loader still work on my device variant, and allow root without tripping KNOX?
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Iceman_jkh said:
Thank you both. I have the international SM-G920F (technically it's the dual Sim version, SM-G920FD, (from United Arab Emirates)).
So, to confirm, would the eng boot loader still work on my device variant, and allow root without tripping KNOX?
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I have the single sim version of the G920F, so I don't know if it will work with the dual sim.
I don't think that it will strip you knox...
... and I think that if your phone doesn't work with this bootloader, you can just flash the correct one and make it work again.
But these are just guesses... you decide if you want to take the risk.
Good luck.
JuanRamiro said:
I have the single sim version of the G920F, so I don't know if it will work with the dual sim.
I don't think that it will strip you knox...
... and I think that if your phone doesn't work with this bootloader, you can just flash the correct one and make it work again.
But these are just guesses... you decide if you want to take the risk.
Good luck.
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Thanks. I did some additional research, thanks to your advice about eng boot loader, and seems like it will work ☺
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JuanRamiro said:
I have the single sim version of the G920F, so I don't know if it will work with the dual sim.
I don't think that it will strip you knox...
... and I think that if your phone doesn't work with this bootloader, you can just flash the correct one and make it work again.
But these are just guesses... you decide if you want to take the risk.
Good luck.
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Hi,
I wouldn't risk that "you can just flash the correct one and make it work again". If you know how a bootloader work, if it gets broken there is no way to get to Download Mode and flash a new firmware/bootloader.
For information sake, a bootloader is a piece of software that is the first thing loaded when you boot your device, it comes before anything, be it kernel, be it recovery or anything else, that means, if you have a broken bootloader, the moment you try to boot your device up, it will try loading BL and it will fail, so it will shut down back again. I've had a broken BL once before on S4, the only way to recover was a direct flash of software in system chip using a tool called JTAG.
So, all I can say to users who still didn't get it: beware with this. It seems that many people are getting successful results, but it's an extremely risk procedure, make sure you read every single instruction and follow it, the possibility of a hard brick is high.
Even still, it's a great find, thanks for sharing with me, I didn't know of this until early today .
All the best,
~Lord
I wonder whether Samsung pay will work again after reflash stock rom after root? Is it like knox, once rooted you will never have it no mater what you do including going back to pure stock?
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Depending on your country, Knox trip also means warranty void, because once rooted you can unroot and make it looks like nothing happened.
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Did you mean, once rooted we can unroot and install the stock firmware and hence tripped Knox will be restored as well?
Or the unrooting will only help to restore the stock but the knox will continue to remain tripped. I would like to know this as I am considering purchasing S6. The last samsung phone I owned was S2 and used that for 3 full years with out any problems.
Thanks.
coolmalayalee said:
Did you mean, once rooted we can unroot and install the stock firmware and hence tripped Knox will be restored as well?
Or the unrooting will only help to restore the stock but the knox will continue to remain tripped. I would like to know this as I am considering purchasing S6. The last samsung phone I owned was S2 and used that for 3 full years with out any problems.
Thanks.
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Once Knox is tripped its tripped but, yes you can flash original firmware and as long as you factory reset it, it will be unrooted and ready for official updates.
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Once Knox is tripped its tripped but, yes you can flash original firmware and as long as you factory reset it, it will be unrooted and ready for official updates.
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Thanks. But can you be a bit more specific of if the unrooting, flashing stock, and factory resting will finally untrip the tripped Knox as well? My question in the event I need to take this back to a service center to claim warranty for whatever reason, is there any way for them to know that I have voided warranty if I unroot, flash back the stock and factory reset?
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Thanks. But can you be a bit more specific of if the unrooting, flashing stock, and factory resting will finally untrip the tripped Knox as well? My question in the event I need to take this back to a service center to claim warranty for whatever reason, is there any way for them to know that I have voided warranty if I unroot, flash back the stock and factory reset?
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Once tripped there is no going back. Voided warranty depends on laws of your country and your retailers policy.
coolmalayalee said:
Thanks. But can you be a bit more specific of if the unrooting, flashing stock, and factory resting will finally untrip the tripped Knox as well? My question in the event I need to take this back to a service center to claim warranty for whatever reason, is there any way for them to know that I have voided warranty if I unroot, flash back the stock and factory reset?
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YOU CAN NOT UNTRIP KNOX, you can reflash your firmware from Sammobile, http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-G920F/
use odin and then after you flash, go into recovery or use system settings and conduct a factory reset. It will say Official in the status but, since they will reflash your rom anyways, they will see the knox trip.
It depends on where you purschased your device whether or not they will warranty it with Knox tripped.
Honestly, anyone who roots should understand this information before hand. You should always know how to return to stock unroot.
Jameslwoodward said:
I wonder whether Samsung pay will work again after reflash stock rom after root? Is it like knox, once rooted you will never have it no mater what you do including going back to pure stock?
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After rooting my 5.1.1 without tripping Knox, with the 5.0.2 engineering bootloader (as as described a few posts ago) I have flashed a stok rom with odin and then everything went back as it was before the rooting procedure.
1. I was on stok oficial rom with oficial bootloader.
2. I lost root.
3. Knox was still intact: 0.
4. Fingerprint scanner and MyKnox worked again.
So: after upgrade to 5.1.1, rooting with the 5.0.2 engineering bootloader seems to be safe and also easy to bo back to stock... at least for my model (G920F)
I'm new to Samsung devices and apparently that Knox efuse is a real SOB to deal with. I don't need custom recoveries/kernels or anything fancy, just want to be able to use superuser.
I know there's at least *a* root exploit for the S7, but I'm sure it also blows the efuse. Is there a "systemless root" or anything like what the S5/S6 had that doesn't trip knox?
your question can be answered with a 5 minute search but no. bootloader is locked, system is verified on boot
I thought that's what the point of non-system root was though? So that you aren't modifying system
There is no way to root without tripping Knox (the 0x1 Warranty Void flag). This has been the case since the eFuse was introduced (at least back on the Note 3).
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123421342 said:
your question can be answered with a 5 minute search but no. bootloader is locked, system is verified on boot
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That's for Snapdragon 820 units. We don't know if the OP has Snapdragon or Exynos
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I don't have my S7 yet, but I was going to get one soon. How would I find out if it's Snapdragon or Exynos once I get one?
I swear I saw some threads about S6 rooting without tripping Knox...
drfsupercenter said:
I don't have my S7 yet, but I was going to get one soon. How would I find out if it's Snapdragon or Exynos once I get one?
I swear I saw some threads about S6 rooting without tripping Knox...
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If you buy a US version, it should be snapdragon. The international/non-US version is the Exynos.
Ah, OK. Well I'm in the US so that answers that.
I would not risk it for the biscuit
http://pingpongroot.co/PingPongRoot-tutorial.html
This is the thing I was talking about. It works for the S6/S6 Edge, so why can't we do this on S7?
Something I was thinking about... Knox basically verifies the checksum of the system partition upon booting, right? Well, there are system updates (I had two of them after turning the phone on the first time) and those obviously modify the system partition. Which means the checksum has to be updated during that process or it would trip Knox just for doing an OTA update! So the million-dollar question is, couldn't we just spoof that ourselves?
And more importantly, why wouldn't "systemless root" do the trick? I can understand tripping Knox if you start deleting things from /system using your new root powers, but what about just using it to modify data? That's one of the main things I use root for, backing up and restoring data, which is a totally separate partition from /system.
Rooting Without Voiding Warranty [Samsung Galaxy s7] DEFINITELY POSSIBLE
drfsupercenter said:
I'm new to Samsung devices and apparently that Knox efuse is a real SOB to deal with. I don't need custom recoveries/kernels or anything fancy, just want to be able to use superuser.
I know there's at least *a* root exploit for the S7, but I'm sure it also blows the efuse. Is there a "systemless root" or anything like what the S5/S6 had that doesn't trip knox?
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There most certainly is a very easy way to root the Samsung galaxy s7 snapdragon to use superSU.
I did it on my sprint Samsung galaxy s7 very easily and sprint is supposed to make it the
hardest.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/how-to/samsung-galaxy-s7-sm-g930p-root-xposed-t3502829
I did this like a month ago, but ended up undoing it thanks to Pokémon Go and SafetyNet. If you know a solution let me know...
drfsupercenter said:
I'm new to Samsung devices and apparently that Knox efuse is a real SOB to deal with. I don't need custom recoveries/kernels or anything fancy, just want to be able to use superuser.
I know there's at least *a* root exploit for the S7, but I'm sure it also blows the efuse. Is there a "systemless root" or anything like what the S5/S6 had that doesn't trip knox?
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Complete guide to root without voiding warranty!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/how-to/samsung-galaxy-s7-sm-g930p-root-xposed-t3502829
Hey everyone I was hoping for a little help on this 1. I just purchased the Samsung Galaxy Sol (SM- J321AZ) AND wanted to make a back up and possibly flash a custom Rom on this device if at all possible. I have the Galaxy Tab E 8.0 (SM- T377P) and third to do the same thing without making a backup and not it's pretty much a paper weight as every time I download a .tar file it won't flash and none of the major websites have a factory or custom Rom so that I can use it again. (If anyone can help on that as well that would be SUPER AWESOM). Anyways, I don't wanna make the same mistake with this device as the other so I figured I would ask for some help. I need to network I lock the Sol phone as I'm a T- Mobile user but this was the only phone they had at the store that was not a flip phone. Hope someone out there can help.
Thanks in advance.
The Noob
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Sol
Galaxy Sol? I gotta admit, I had to look that one up; never heard of that one before. It appears to be brand new, having 6.0 and released just last month, but it's not even on Cricket's website. Weird.
As far as custom ROMs or even root goes, you're probably SOL (pun totally intended), at least for right now. However, Cricket does like to rename a lot of their phones that are otherwise identical to others, so it's possible a root method may exist.
When it comes to carrier unlocking, things can get a bit tricky. Cricket sells phones for fairly cheap because they only sell them to their own customers. In other words, they know they'll at least make up the difference with a minimum of a couple months worth of service. I gather you've purchased this phone second-hand. If it's not already unlocked, you might not be able to get it unlocked short of one of those services you see on eBay. Contact Cricket about it. They have rules and limitations about when and if they'll unlock their phones. Root/ROMs typically can't do anything regarding carrier unlocking. Interesting though that so many newer Cricket devices, even the cheapos, happen to have band 12 for T-Mobile.
I just bought this at best buy a few weeks ago. This phone seems to be exactly the same as the Samsung Galaxy Amp Prime SM-J320 with the exception it being 8GB.
BESTBUYDOTCOM/site/cricket-wireless-samsung-galaxy-sol-4g-with-8gb-memory-prepaid-cell-phone/5216601.p?id=bb5216601&skuId=5216601
CRICKETWIRESSDOTCOM/cell-phones/smartphones/samsung-galaxy-amp-prime.html
Either way, I was unable to find a stock fw for either of these phones however the firmware allow for OEM unlock. I was looking to at least root and clear away the garbage because out of 8gb I can only use 3GB (also install apps to SD). I don't want to do this unless I have at least a stock fw backup rom to load.
Is there any back door way of downloading this stock firmware? I've look far and wide. Any assistance would ease the pain. Thanks.
here is a link to the stock firmware
haggelz said:
I just bought this at best buy a few weeks ago. This phone seems to be exactly the same as the Samsung Galaxy Amp Prime SM-J320 with the exception it being 8GB.
BESTBUYDOTCOM/site/cricket-wireless-samsung-galaxy-sol-4g-with-8gb-memory-prepaid-cell-phone/5216601.p?id=bb5216601&skuId=5216601
CRICKETWIRESSDOTCOM/cell-phones/smartphones/samsung-galaxy-amp-prime.html
Either way, I was unable to find a stock fw for either of these phones however the firmware allow for OEM unlock. I was looking to at least root and clear away the garbage because out of 8gb I can only use 3GB (also install apps to SD). I don't want to do this unless I have at least a stock fw backup rom to load.
Is there any back door way of downloading this stock firmware? I've look far and wide. Any assistance would ease the pain. Thanks.
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Just head to my new post with links to the firmware. http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/help/samsung-galaxy-sol-sm-j321aza-little-t3420635
This phone is currently $50 at Best Buy. I want to buy it for my mom(she's using my old Nexus 4, which is slowly dying), and this seems like a decent replacement. The thing is, she's on T-Mobile. If this can be unlocked to use on any gsm carrier, that'd be great. I guess I'll have to look around eBay or ask Cricket about unlocking it.
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Has any one heard anything or made any progress...I love this little phone but the lack of space and adaptive storage is killing me ... I would love to remove some bloatware and be able to put more on the sd card...PLEASE HELP
Root found, finally.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/release-root-samsung-galaxy-prime-j320az-t3493077
Help
I recently purchased a sol used and the person I bought it from forgot that it had a screen lock on it. can I bypass it or will it be easier to just reset it an bypass the frp lock. Please help?!
comer320 said:
i recently purchased a sol used and the person i bought it from forgot that it had a screen lock on it. Can i bypass it or will it be easier to just reset it an bypass the frp lock. Please help?!
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factory reset youtube
And then I get to deal with the frp lock. I don't have the info for that either, But would it be easier to bypass the frp instead?
I'm not entirely sure but aren't the spec for this the same or almost the same as the Galaxy J3 or the Galaxy amp prime? Would anything from those devices work on this. Like a rom port or root method
Ions87l said:
I'm not entirely sure but aren't the spec for this the same or almost the same as the Galaxy J3 or the Galaxy amp prime? Would anything from those devices work on this. Like a rom port or root method
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that selinux root method earlier in the thread does work for root, and after root just adb shell pull all partitions to port twrp or brew a rom. the specs for the j3 and prime are nearly identical so porting from those two should not be to hard. i went to a new phone so i wont be doing anything further with it. unless i get bored and decide to fish it out the junk drawer for something to do. https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1rwlbcYZ8i6NldnV0ppVHJ3Z1U thats the link to the adb file for root and the instructions are here https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/release-root-samsung-galaxy-prime-j320az-t3493077 . Sorry thats an Odin flashable boot img with selinux tweeked. sorry havent paid much attention to this phone lately
Ok thanks I'm going to see what I can do. At least TWRP and from there compile a rom. I have nothing but time and patience so I'm gonna build cm13 and see what happens.
Ions87l said:
Ok thanks I'm going to see what I can do. At least TWRP and from there compile a rom. I have nothing but time and patience so I'm gonna build cm13 and see what happens.
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Here is a link to the stock firmware caught from an ota all the partitions are there. https://www.mediafire.com/file/pk25ey721x6i9oj/Sol_Firmware.zip
is this for j321az?
zMILWAUKEE said:
Here is a link to the stock firmware caught from an ota all the partitions are there.
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this stock firmware you posted is the latest of j321az ? thank you
Aplicación para rootear mi Samsung galaxy sol (cricket) SM- j321AZ
Is there a way to fully unroot and return this phone to stock at this time? Im assuming root will also trip the knox counter - can this be undone? I often resell my phones on Craigslist when I upgrade and I wanna make sure I can sell it right.
Just flash the stock firmware, knox can't be undone, and the amount of people that checked if my previous phones were rooted is none.
DinoSoup said:
Is there a way to fully unroot and return this phone to stock at this time? Im assuming root will also trip the knox counter - can this be undone? I often resell my phones on Craigslist when I upgrade and I wanna make sure I can sell it right.
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Depends, root doesn't trip Knox counter for snapdragon devices, so you fully unroot them just like before
peachpuff said:
Just flash the stock firmware, knox can't be undone, and the amount of people that checked if my previous phones were rooted is none.
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Doesn't atripped knox disable Samsung pay though?
DinoSoup said:
Doesn't atripped knox disable Samsung pay though?
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Most likely, you also won't get updates anymore.
You'll have to sell root as a feature, somehow, when getting rid of the phone.
I rooted my S8+ three days ago it was all good except a crazy bixby home app crash. It made me crazy . So i dowloaded stock firm g955u verison.
After flashing it again using odin . I had an error ... I reboot again and did a factory reset ... .and it s all good now . .. unrooted with full functionalities