Unroot? - Samsung Galaxy S8+ Questions & Answers

Is there a way to fully unroot and return this phone to stock at this time? Im assuming root will also trip the knox counter - can this be undone? I often resell my phones on Craigslist when I upgrade and I wanna make sure I can sell it right.

Just flash the stock firmware, knox can't be undone, and the amount of people that checked if my previous phones were rooted is none.

DinoSoup said:
Is there a way to fully unroot and return this phone to stock at this time? Im assuming root will also trip the knox counter - can this be undone? I often resell my phones on Craigslist when I upgrade and I wanna make sure I can sell it right.
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Depends, root doesn't trip Knox counter for snapdragon devices, so you fully unroot them just like before

peachpuff said:
Just flash the stock firmware, knox can't be undone, and the amount of people that checked if my previous phones were rooted is none.
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Doesn't atripped knox disable Samsung pay though?

DinoSoup said:
Doesn't atripped knox disable Samsung pay though?
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Most likely, you also won't get updates anymore.
You'll have to sell root as a feature, somehow, when getting rid of the phone.

I rooted my S8+ three days ago it was all good except a crazy bixby home app crash. It made me crazy . So i dowloaded stock firm g955u verison.
After flashing it again using odin . I had an error ... I reboot again and did a factory reset ... .and it s all good now . .. unrooted with full functionalities

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KNOX 0*1 >> Can i still get OTA updates?

Hi Guys!
(I don't care whole knox thing, even warranty)
Can i still get ota updates if i got knox warranty void 0x1(phone into *samsung*)?
Of course i flashed stock firmware back with odin.
In downloading mode i get
Current Status: Samsung Official
System Status: Official
Knox warranty void: 1 (0*0301)
Knox doesnt affect ota updates. Only root disables ota.
Is it possible to set the code back? Im on 5.1.1
gersp said:
Is it possible to set the code back? Im on 5.1.1
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Absolutely not.
Snowby123 said:
Absolutely not.
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What do you mean by absolutely not? I thought Triangle Away resets the KNOX tripping. And I was reading it still worked on S6... Are you saying it's impossible to "un-trip" KNOX now?
hamstrman said:
What do you mean by absolutely not? I thought Triangle Away resets the KNOX tripping. And I was reading it still worked on S6... Are you saying it's impossible to "un-trip" KNOX now?
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As of now, unfortunately yes. There is no way
hamstrman said:
What do you mean by absolutely not? I thought Triangle Away resets the KNOX tripping. And I was reading it still worked on S6... Are you saying it's impossible to "un-trip" KNOX now?
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Triangle away doenst reset the Knox counter, it resets the flash counter. This is very different.
There is no tool which can reset the Knox counter.
XxM4tzexX said:
Triangle away doenst reset the Knox counter, it resets the flash counter. This is very different.
There is no tool which can reset the Knox counter.
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So the two years that I've had my S5 rooted, my warranty was voided and irreversible? Huh. I've never needed any assistance from Sprint and I'm hoping I won't now. Makes me feel better to know that I'm in no different a position than I have been. I just have to hope my phone works perfectly.
Would that affect my ability to sell my S5 back to Sprint? Sorry if I'm not on this thread's topic exactly... Should I end my line of questioning in this thread?
Just keep flashing the latest updates on your own by getting stock firmware and using Odin, that's what I would do if I ever went back to a non-rooted device - might go back just to try Samsung Pay.

Clarification on flashing original firmware

I have a galaxy s6 bought from malaysia and it was region locked. I initially thought it will be easy to unlock but I couldnt unlock it so I took it to local mobile service center. There they unlocked the phone. I dont know how they unlocked it but I think he used some box like octoplus. When I recieved the phone from him it was rooted and the knox counter was tripped.
I know I have voided the warranty but thats fine. Now I dont recieve any updates from Samsung. I want to flash the original samsung firmware back and I have the following clarification before doing it by myself.
1. If I flash the original samsung firmware using smart switch or odin will the phone be unrooted and will I start receiving updates
2. Currently in my smart manager-> device security it says security threat found and I get the notification "unauthorized action detected restart your device to undo any unauthorized changes". Will this error message go off and will the device threat go off.
3. Will installing My knox cause any problem or I should avoid installing it ?
4. Currently "In find my mobile" remote controls is not getting enabled. Will the find my mobile feature start working after flashing the official firmware.
Thanks in advance
Rahul
srahulmca said:
I have a galaxy s6 bought from malaysia and it was region locked. I initially thought it will be easy to unlock but I couldnt unlock it so I took it to local mobile service center. There they unlocked the phone. I dont know how they unlocked it but I think he used some box like octoplus. When I recieved the phone from him it was rooted and the knox counter was tripped.
I know I have voided the warranty but thats fine. Now I dont recieve any updates from Samsung. I want to flash the original samsung firmware back and I have the following clarification before doing it by myself.
1. If I flash the original samsung firmware using smart switch or odin will the phone be unrooted and will I start receiving updates
2. Currently in my smart manager-> device security it says security threat found and I get the notification "unauthorized action detected restart your device to undo any unauthorized changes". Will this error message go off and will the device threat go off.
3. Will installing My knox cause any problem or I should avoid installing it ?
4. Currently "In find my mobile" remote controls is not getting enabled. Will the find my mobile feature start working after flashing the official firmware.
Thanks in advance
Rahul
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if you have tripped knox to 1 then the warranty is voided. you can't unvoid it. furthermore, malaysian SGS6 are G920F, which is supposed to be international unlocked versions. where did you buy this in malaysia? i hope it's not low yat or some shady place.
Yes its G920F. All Samsung galaxy phones are region locked irrespective of where its bought. I dint buy in low yat. But I just curious why you are skeptical about low yat ?. Is low yat not a good place to buy ?
I know I have voided the warranty but I want to know the answer to the above questions
srahulmca said:
Yes its G920F. All Samsung galaxy phones are region locked irrespective of where its bought. I dint buy in low yat. But I just curious why you are skeptical about low yat ?. Is low yat not a good place to buy ?
I know I have voided the warranty but I want to know the answer to the above questions
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you should try installing the official firmware through smart switch first. then slowly work on the rest. use emergency firmware initilization.
2. i'm not sure.
low yat can sell you at a cheap price, but i have had friends who had been conned of several things there before.
I am sure many would have tripped Knox and flashed stock firmware and you must be having answers to my clarification. Can anyone help me by answering my questions
srahulmca said:
I am sure many would have tripped Knox and flashed stock firmware and you must be having answers to my clarification. Can anyone help me by answering my questions
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bro, i suggest you try installing Smart Switch on your PC, then click more at the top right hand corner, click emergency firmware initialization > Device initialization > Key in SM-G920F > key in your Serial number > click okay (make sure to back up first) then install the latest firmware. That should unroot your phone. The rest of the questions you asked, may be fixed after you unroot your phone
Ok. Thanks zincsnow. I will try it.
srahulmca said:
Ok. Thanks zincsnow. I will try it.
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no problem, let me know if you need any more help. but quote me so i can be notified
Did the guys in the local mobile devices center tell you that their actions will trip knox and void your warranty?
No they didnt tell me.
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No they didnt tell me.
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you should talk to them about this. this is very irresponsible of them
This is India, you cannot do much. Any how I cannot use samsung Malaysia warranty here. I will not be using samsung pay here. My only concerns is getting OTA updates from samsung and find my mobile to work, because I have a previous experience of losing my phone.
zincsnow have you tripped the knox. if yes and if you are on stock firmware back. What does the device security under smart manager say ?
srahulmca said:
This is India, you cannot do much. Any how I cannot use samsung Malaysia warranty here. I will not be using samsung pay here. My only concerns is getting OTA updates from samsung and find my mobile to work, because I have a previous experience of losing my phone.
zincsnow have you tripped the knox. if yes and if you are on stock firmware back. What does the device security under smart manager say ?
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alright then. i have tripped knox but i haven't gone back to stock.
Bro, please follow this link to unroot your galaxy S6 and bring it back to stock.
you'll be able to update your device normally after that.
I have updated my device using smart switch now everything works fine. I didn't try installing my Knox because I don't need 2 environments one for work and personal. Thanks all especially zincsnow
I was surprised about one thing. I was expecting that once the installation is completed my phone will be in a new state but it had all my datas and settings intact nothing was changed, not sure if restore had run.
srahulmca said:
I have updated my device using smart switch now everything works fine. I didn't try installing my Knox because I don't need 2 environments one for work and personal. Thanks all especially zincsnow
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srahulmca said:
I was surprised about one thing. I was expecting that once the installation is completed my phone will be in a new state but it had all my datas and settings intact nothing was changed, not sure if restore had run.
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no worries mate. have a great day!

To Root or Not to Root

Hello Community!!
I have owned many androids over the years, and have recently got an S6, hoping to dive back into the game of rooting, modding and messing around until my phones works the way i want it to. There are MANY things that really Piss me off about my T-MObile variant of the S6, including the horrible battery life, bloatware, and lack of personality. I Really would love to root my device, but KNOX. OMG what is this?! If i Root, no Samsung pay? What other downsides are there to rooting? But recently, my phone installed "ANdroid Pay" SO I am thinking, I should just root, forget Samsung pay and just use Google pay or whatever they call it.
As you guys can tell from my sig, I have been very inactive on these forums. I am hoping someone can give me some advice here---
Thanks So much
EMilio
beforedenied said:
Hello Community!!
I have owned many androids over the years, and have recently got an S6, hoping to dive back into the game of rooting, modding and messing around until my phones works the way i want it to. There are MANY things that really Piss me off about my T-MObile variant of the S6, including the horrible battery life, bloatware, and lack of personality. I Really would love to root my device, but KNOX. OMG what is this?! If i Root, no Samsung pay? What other downsides are there to rooting? But recently, my phone installed "ANdroid Pay" SO I am thinking, I should just root, forget Samsung pay and just use Google pay or whatever they call it.
As you guys can tell from my sig, I have been very inactive on these forums. I am hoping someone can give me some advice here---
Thanks So much
EMilio
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There are pros and cons to root.
The first pro is limitless customizations and personalizations.
The first con is OTA updates get disabled.
Another pro is you are able to dramatically improve battery and overall performance using various apps.
Another con is your warranty will be void, assuming you tripped KNOX.
If you trip KNOX, Samsung Pay no longer works; if you have root (even without touching KNOX) Android Pay does not work.
I obtained root just to prove to myself it could be done.
Since then there have been dramatic improvements with speed and battery life.
Package Disabler Pro can freeze a lot of the bloatware without root: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en
Hi,
It's a highly personal decision. I myself for the first time am holding on rooting - I was the one who made the most famous Xoom rooting tool and also S4 Linux Root Script, so that tells a lot. The thing is, meanwhile my device is satisfying my needs, and I'm really curious about Samsung Pay, as it has a way wider support than Android Pay and other systems.
The best thing about rooting in my opinion was the endless system customization - specially after Xposed was released. The way better data management I had, better system control and some exclusive apps that require root or works better with root. If you are really pissed about Samsung TouchWiz apps and system "features", rooting would be a nice idea. Just keep in mind that after rooting Knox will be tripped and there's no turning back with Knox. Depending on your country, Knox trip also means warranty void, because once rooted you can unroot and make it looks like nothing happened.
Just adding what was already said, but Android Pay doesn't work with root.
All the best,
~Lord
Sent from my SM-G920I using Tapatalk
XxLordxX said:
Hi,
It's a highly personal decision. I myself for the first time am holding on rooting - I was the one who made the most famous Xoom rooting tool and also S4 Linux Root Script, so that tells a lot. The thing is, meanwhile my device is satisfying my needs, and I'm really curious about Samsung Pay, as it has a way wider support than Android Pay and other systems.
The best thing about rooting in my opinion was the endless system customization - specially after Xposed was released. The way better data management I had, better system control and some exclusive apps that require root or works better with root. If you are really pissed about Samsung TouchWiz apps and system "features", rooting would be a nice idea. Just keep in mind that after rooting Knox will be tripped and there's no turning back with Knox. Depending on your country, Knox trip also means warranty void, because once rooted you can unroot and make it looks like nothing happened.
Just adding what was already said, but Android Pay doesn't work with root.
All the best,
~Lord
Sent from my SM-G920I using Tapatalk
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Rooting doesn't allways mean tripped knox. I have my G920F rooted and knox intact. This can be done even after updrade to 5.1.1 stok firmware.
An android phone for me is worthless without root permissions. I need it for:
adaway adds
iptables (firewall)
better battery life (debloat)
titanium backup
JuanRamiro said:
Rooting doesn't allways mean tripped knox. I have my G920F rooted and knox intact. This can be done even after updrade to 5.1.1 stok firmware.
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I was only aware of root that can be applied before upgrade to 5.1.1.
Can you advise how you applied root after 5.1.1? Thanks.
Iceman_jkh said:
I was only aware of root that can be applied before upgrade to 5.1.1.
Can you advise how you applied root after 5.1.1? Thanks.
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Just install de 5.0.2 engineering bootloader via ODIN. Then instal TRWP via ODIN.
After this two steps you can flash whatever you want via TRWP.
Edit: with the 5.0.2 bootloader you will loose fingerprint scanner, the rest works great, at least with the custom rom I am using.
JuanRamiro said:
Just install de 5.0.2 engineering bootloader via ODIN. Then instal TRWP via ODIN.
After this two steps you can flash whatever you want via TRWP.
Edit: with the 5.0.2 bootloader you will loose fingerprint scanner, the rest works great, at least with the custom rom I am using.
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Keep in mind this engineering bootloader does not work with all variants. For example there is no Eng Bootloader for the Canadian phones.
Thank you both. I have the international SM-G920F (technically it's the dual Sim version, SM-G920FD, (from United Arab Emirates)).
So, to confirm, would the eng boot loader still work on my device variant, and allow root without tripping KNOX?
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Iceman_jkh said:
Thank you both. I have the international SM-G920F (technically it's the dual Sim version, SM-G920FD, (from United Arab Emirates)).
So, to confirm, would the eng boot loader still work on my device variant, and allow root without tripping KNOX?
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I have the single sim version of the G920F, so I don't know if it will work with the dual sim.
I don't think that it will strip you knox...
... and I think that if your phone doesn't work with this bootloader, you can just flash the correct one and make it work again.
But these are just guesses... you decide if you want to take the risk.
Good luck.
JuanRamiro said:
I have the single sim version of the G920F, so I don't know if it will work with the dual sim.
I don't think that it will strip you knox...
... and I think that if your phone doesn't work with this bootloader, you can just flash the correct one and make it work again.
But these are just guesses... you decide if you want to take the risk.
Good luck.
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Thanks. I did some additional research, thanks to your advice about eng boot loader, and seems like it will work ☺
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JuanRamiro said:
I have the single sim version of the G920F, so I don't know if it will work with the dual sim.
I don't think that it will strip you knox...
... and I think that if your phone doesn't work with this bootloader, you can just flash the correct one and make it work again.
But these are just guesses... you decide if you want to take the risk.
Good luck.
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Hi,
I wouldn't risk that "you can just flash the correct one and make it work again". If you know how a bootloader work, if it gets broken there is no way to get to Download Mode and flash a new firmware/bootloader.
For information sake, a bootloader is a piece of software that is the first thing loaded when you boot your device, it comes before anything, be it kernel, be it recovery or anything else, that means, if you have a broken bootloader, the moment you try to boot your device up, it will try loading BL and it will fail, so it will shut down back again. I've had a broken BL once before on S4, the only way to recover was a direct flash of software in system chip using a tool called JTAG.
So, all I can say to users who still didn't get it: beware with this. It seems that many people are getting successful results, but it's an extremely risk procedure, make sure you read every single instruction and follow it, the possibility of a hard brick is high.
Even still, it's a great find, thanks for sharing with me, I didn't know of this until early today .
All the best,
~Lord
I wonder whether Samsung pay will work again after reflash stock rom after root? Is it like knox, once rooted you will never have it no mater what you do including going back to pure stock?
XxLordxX said:
Depending on your country, Knox trip also means warranty void, because once rooted you can unroot and make it looks like nothing happened.
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Did you mean, once rooted we can unroot and install the stock firmware and hence tripped Knox will be restored as well?
Or the unrooting will only help to restore the stock but the knox will continue to remain tripped. I would like to know this as I am considering purchasing S6. The last samsung phone I owned was S2 and used that for 3 full years with out any problems.
Thanks.
coolmalayalee said:
Did you mean, once rooted we can unroot and install the stock firmware and hence tripped Knox will be restored as well?
Or the unrooting will only help to restore the stock but the knox will continue to remain tripped. I would like to know this as I am considering purchasing S6. The last samsung phone I owned was S2 and used that for 3 full years with out any problems.
Thanks.
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Once Knox is tripped its tripped but, yes you can flash original firmware and as long as you factory reset it, it will be unrooted and ready for official updates.
jetbruceli said:
Once Knox is tripped its tripped but, yes you can flash original firmware and as long as you factory reset it, it will be unrooted and ready for official updates.
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Thanks. But can you be a bit more specific of if the unrooting, flashing stock, and factory resting will finally untrip the tripped Knox as well? My question in the event I need to take this back to a service center to claim warranty for whatever reason, is there any way for them to know that I have voided warranty if I unroot, flash back the stock and factory reset?
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Thanks. But can you be a bit more specific of if the unrooting, flashing stock, and factory resting will finally untrip the tripped Knox as well? My question in the event I need to take this back to a service center to claim warranty for whatever reason, is there any way for them to know that I have voided warranty if I unroot, flash back the stock and factory reset?
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Once tripped there is no going back. Voided warranty depends on laws of your country and your retailers policy.
coolmalayalee said:
Thanks. But can you be a bit more specific of if the unrooting, flashing stock, and factory resting will finally untrip the tripped Knox as well? My question in the event I need to take this back to a service center to claim warranty for whatever reason, is there any way for them to know that I have voided warranty if I unroot, flash back the stock and factory reset?
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YOU CAN NOT UNTRIP KNOX, you can reflash your firmware from Sammobile, http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-G920F/
use odin and then after you flash, go into recovery or use system settings and conduct a factory reset. It will say Official in the status but, since they will reflash your rom anyways, they will see the knox trip.
It depends on where you purschased your device whether or not they will warranty it with Knox tripped.
Honestly, anyone who roots should understand this information before hand. You should always know how to return to stock unroot.
Jameslwoodward said:
I wonder whether Samsung pay will work again after reflash stock rom after root? Is it like knox, once rooted you will never have it no mater what you do including going back to pure stock?
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After rooting my 5.1.1 without tripping Knox, with the 5.0.2 engineering bootloader (as as described a few posts ago) I have flashed a stok rom with odin and then everything went back as it was before the rooting procedure.
1. I was on stok oficial rom with oficial bootloader.
2. I lost root.
3. Knox was still intact: 0.
4. Fingerprint scanner and MyKnox worked again.
So: after upgrade to 5.1.1, rooting with the 5.0.2 engineering bootloader seems to be safe and also easy to bo back to stock... at least for my model (G920F)

KingRoot Questions

1. Did anyone try KingRoot and found a working method?
2. Does this trip the Knox Counter as soon as it works?
Both questions are related to the portable version of KingRoot for Android.
Thanks.
1) no
2) no one used it so they can't say what it does, if anything
Mystixor said:
2. Does this trip the Knox Counter as soon as it works?
Both questions are related to the portable version of KingRoot for Android.
Thanks.
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Any method of rooting this device will trip the Knox counter.
the_scotsman said:
Any method of rooting this device will trip the Knox counter.
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Really? And I always thought it was due to flashing a new firmware...
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Mystixor said:
Really? And I always thought it was due to flashing a new firmware...
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Nope, flashing new official samsung firmware won't trip Knox.
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Nope, flashing new official samsung firmware won't trip Knox.
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Well what I wanted to stress wasn't that a custom firmware trips Knox but that KingRoot does not flash a new firmware and therefore potentially does not trip Knox. All it uses is an exploit to change some specific root-determining system files.
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Well what I wanted to stress wasn't that a custom firmware trips Knox but that KingRoot does not flash a new firmware and therefore potentially does not trip Knox. All it uses is an exploit to change some specific root-determining system files.
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Knox detects if system files are changed, it is simply not possible to change or modify any system files in any way without tripping Knox. So if you managed to use any sort of 3rd party application to root (not possible currently), the application would trip Knox, because it modifies system files.
The Knox security bombproof to the level that a physical fuse is blown inside the phone when Knox is tripped, meaning there is no way to un-trip Knox through software once it's been tripped. It's possible to fool the ROM to think that it's not tripped (like some S8 ported ROMs, to enable secure folder), but warranty can never be restored, as the Knox counter in download mode can't be tricked.
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Knox detects if system files are changed, it is simply not possible to change or modify any system files in any way without tripping Knox. So if you managed to use any sort of 3rd party application to root (not possible currently), the application would trip Knox, because it modifies system.
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It was possible
Kingroot used to work on s6 you could root with knox intact and use all root features only thing that would trip knox was custom recovery and/or rom
Wish it could be done with s8
skinza said:
It was possible
Kingroot used to work on s6 you could root with knox intact and use all root features only thing that would trip knox was custom recovery and/or rom
Wish it could be done with s8
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That was over 2 years ago, when you could use root tools to reset the counter back to not tripped. Nowadays the security is much more strict, and there's a physical fuse inside the phone that gets blown when Knox is tripped. Knox isn't a bootloader-only thing anymore, now it scans system files to see any third party tampering, and gets tripped if it's detected.
galaxyYtester said:
That was over 2 years ago, when you could use root tools to reset the counter back to not tripped. Nowadays the security is much more strict, and there's a physical fuse inside the phone that gets blown when Knox is tripped. Knox isn't a bootloader-only thing anymore, now it scans system files to see any third party tampering, and gets tripped if it's detected.
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Yep, Knox is totally solid these days. Its impossible to not trip it when rooting. F*** it and root the phone anyway, if it breaks ill claim it on insurance not through warranty.
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galaxyYtester said:
That was over 2 years ago, when you could use root tools to reset the counter back to not tripped. Nowadays the security is much more strict, and there's a physical fuse inside the phone that gets blown when Knox is tripped. Knox isn't a bootloader-only thing anymore, now it scans system files to see any third party tampering, and gets tripped if it's detected.
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There was no need to reset anything i rooted used some tweaks then when i restored my knox was still 0x0
I never phiscally reset anything
Even while i was rooted my phone still said 0x0
skinza said:
There was no need to reset anything i rooted used some tweaks then when i restored my knox was still 0x0
I never phiscally reset anything
Even while i was rooted my phone still said 0x0
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I didn't mean that, I meant that if you rooted with a method that worked through bootloader (Not kingoroot), you still could restore Knox to not tripped through root tools. Knox security used to be that simple to bypass, nowadays it's impossible to revert once tripped.
Having successfully rooted two HTC devices and a Samsung devices in the past and loved every minute of it, I was kinda excited when Kingroot props said it was possible to root the later Notes... but I never did my old Note 4, partially but not primarily because of the Knox issue.
I've heard different things RE: Knox, pretty much covers what everyone else has been saying here (no way to reset Knox, possible to reset Knox, "soft-root" via Kingroot trips/doesn't trip Knox counter, etc.) Personally, since the Note 4 issue where (correct me if I'm wrong) that Samsung phone was the first one that full rooting was impossible, I've pretty much given up on rooting for a while. Though S8+ may be possible to root (provided you're OK with possibly never resetting Knox), I'm OK with my S8+ non-rooted stock (for now), just like I HAD to be OK with my old Note 4 never being able to be rooted.
I guess my bottom line take on all this is, root at your own risk, know what you're doing, and do it if you can say "Knox be damned" and have no intention of trading the phone back in or reselling it to someone who knows nothing about rooting.
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BereanPK said:
Having successfully rooted two HTC devices and a Samsung devices in the past and loved every minute of it, I was kinda excited when Kingroot props said it was possible to root the later Notes... but I never did my old Note 4, partially but not primarily because of the Knox issue.
I've heard different things RE: Knox, pretty much covers what everyone else has been saying here (no way to reset Knox, possible to reset Knox, "soft-root" via Kingroot trips/doesn't trip Knox counter, etc.) Personally, since the Note 4 issue where (correct me if I'm wrong) that Samsung phone was the first one that full rooting was impossible, I've pretty much given up on rooting for a while. Though S8+ may be possible to root (provided you're OK with possibly never resetting Knox), I'm OK with my S8+ non-rooted stock (for now), just like I HAD to be OK with my old Note 4 never being able to be rooted.
I guess my bottom line take on all this is, root at your own risk, know what you're doing, and do it if you can say "Knox be damned" and have no intention of trading the phone back in or reselling it to someone who knows nothing about rooting.
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Root became possible on note 4 after a program to alter cid to dev version was released. Also because something was possible before shouldn't mean it's possible anymore as things are updated, common sense.
skinza said:
There was no need to reset anything i rooted used some tweaks then when i restored my knox was still 0x0
I never phiscally reset anything
Even while i was rooted my phone still said 0x0
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As I said, it's not possible to root the S8 without tripping Knox. Regardless of how it was with the S6. This is the S8, it's different. It cannot be done.
the_scotsman said:
As I said, it's not possible to root the S8 without tripping Knox. Regardless of how it was with the S6. This is the S8, it's different. It cannot be done.
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Definitely
Those days are over unless someone gets lucky,i know they wont though just wishful thinking
Well.. Do samsung says knox became bulletproof, or does the best hackers see it that way to?
rk73 said:
Well.. Do samsung says knox became bulletproof, or does the best hackers see it that way to?
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Both sides.
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Can't Unroot

It's been like this for a while no matter what I do it will not unroot or at least the phone thinks it's rooted, when it technically isn't, I've flashed full stock from Odin to no avail, can't use any of the sammy app's as Knox says it's unavailable on a rooted device.
Once you root, Knox is gone for good, it's a physical trigger.
This has been the norm since the Note 4 when KNOX was introduced...
Once the bootloader, recovery or kernel is replaced, the KNOX e-fuse burns out and you can't return to stock...
Except I could still access my Samsung apps when returning to stock? Has that changed?
ultramag69 said:
This has been the norm since the Note 4 when KNOX was introduced...
Once the bootloader, recovery or kernel is replaced, the KNOX e-fuse burns out and you can't return to stock...
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Note 3 I believe.
Blancos4Lyf said:
Note 3 I believe.
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THought that might be the case but wasn't 100% sure... Haven't played with my Note 3 in a while....:laugh:

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