hey guys, me and my brother got galaxy s6 devices, we both have MM, i tried both side by side, tried to take a picture of the same object, on my brother phone the quality is much better, if you zoom you can see the difference...and the colors are a bit different, i got the sony sensor, but i can't check for him because the *#34971539# code doesn't work on MM....anyone know why there are some differences?
some s6's have isocell sensor and others have sony imx sensor, there are positives to both types, there is a dedicated thread to this in the general forum
sofir786 said:
some s6's have isocell sensor and others have sony imx sensor, there are positives to both types, there is a dedicated thread to this in the general forum
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yes i know, i can't check his phone because of MM, the code doesn't work, my question is, if there should be another reason for this difference, or how can i check the camera FW
Download AIDA64 in playstore.
i used the app, he has samsung sensor, but from what i know sony sensor should be a bit better, but the difference in the pictures is big, he has sharper image, the pictures have been taken in a bit of low light, the colors are a bit different but it's not an issue...
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I would like to see some pictures that the note takes. Trying to decide between the Note 3 and G2 on sprint. I really want a good camera for taking pics of my constantly moving 1 year old.
mainstang said:
I would like to see some pictures that the note takes. Trying to decide between the Note 3 and G2 on sprint. I really want a good camera for taking pics of my constantly moving 1 year old.
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Here you go, a comparison between the Z1 and Note 3, look for the tags under pictures to identify which one is which.
http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4551/4881230/1/rv/sony-xperia-z1-i1-Honami-review/
I'm pretty sure BTW that both the G2 and the N3 uses a newer revision of the Sony Exmor RS sensor (or Exmor R), so far what I've seen from both are impressive, a bit better in low-light than before, but not Lumia level. In any case, results should be good with both and the best thing you can do is simply walking in and feeling out both. The G2 has the OIS advantage where the Note just feels better in the hand with it's non-glossy texture.
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Here you go, a comparison between the Z1 and Note 3, look for the tags under pictures to identify which one is which.
http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4551/4881230/1/rv/sony-xperia-z1-i1-Honami-review/
I'm pretty sure BTW that both the G2 and the N3 uses a newer revision of the Sony Exmor RS sensor (or Exmor R), so far what I've seen from both are impressive, a bit better in low-light than before, but not Lumia level. In any case, results should be good with both and the best thing you can do is simply walking in and feeling out both. The G2 has the OIS advantage where the Note just feels better in the hand with it's non-glossy texture.
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From the pictures on that site, N3 pictures look infinitely better than the Z1's (especially the close-up pictures), which is quite a surprise. I'm guessing the Z1 needs a software update to it's camera app, because they advertised the camera as one its biggest selling points, so I'm assuming the hardware is not the thing that is at fault here.
BoneXDA said:
Here you go, a comparison between the Z1 and Note 3, look for the tags under pictures to identify which one is which.
http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4551/4881230/1/rv/sony-xperia-z1-i1-Honami-review/
I'm pretty sure BTW that both the G2 and the N3 uses a newer revision of the Sony Exmor RS sensor (or Exmor R), so far what I've seen from both are impressive, a bit better in low-light than before, but not Lumia level. In any case, results should be good with both and the best thing you can do is simply walking in and feeling out both. The G2 has the OIS advantage where the Note just feels better in the hand with it's non-glossy texture.
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Hey bro, the above link shows an Exynos powered Note 3 and if I remember right, some time before you were suggesting in the S4 forums that the Exynos version of S4 has a superior sensor (Exmor RS) over Snapdragon powered S4 (Exmor R). Do you know if this case holds true with Note 3 variants?
Can people start posting some camera snaps and say whether S800 or Exynos.
Equipped with a Sony IMX179 camera sensor. From the Datasheets of the Sony IMX179 (also in wikipedia list http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exmor ) you may notice that the particular sensor is an 8.0 MP sensor and not 13.0 MP.
That's actually kind of common. The picture is probably interpolated, so that the output picture has 13 MP. This "strategy" does not just affect mobiles, but also compact cameras for example.
It's simple. In some countries there is nothing wrong with do this. Make sure to do your research before getting any device. Also remember that you get what you pay for.
This guy is my brother Is there a problem at these photos? I didn't like the performance of the camera.
click for original size: http://i.hizliresim.com/5dO6gj.jpg
Please do not troll
You should ask in camera thread. You have to check out whether you got Sony sensor or Samsung sensor, Sony one got better details at low light but Samsung may offer better color. Some roms got better camera focus while some builds got worse focus during low light, so it also depends on which rom you are running.
Nowt wrong with those photo's. You won't notice a difference which sensor either except the Samsung sensor will have better detail in shadows, better colour reproduction as well.
bloodrain954 said:
Please do not troll
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How did you come up with this idea? Trolling?
TheEndHK said:
You should ask in camera thread. You have to check out whether you got Sony sensor or Samsung sensor, Sony one got better details at low light but Samsung may offer better color. Some roms got better camera focus while some builds got worse focus during low light, so it also depends on which rom you are running.
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Stock rom.
Jonathan-H said:
Nowt wrong with those photo's. You won't notice a difference which sensor either except the Samsung sensor will have better detail in shadows, better colour reproduction as well.
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SM-G920FQ I don't which sensor it includes?
candask said:
Stock rom.
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Some "stock" roms got better camera focus while some other "stock" builds got worse focus, in my experiences.
Jonathan-H said:
Nowt wrong with those photo's. You won't notice a difference which sensor either except the Samsung sensor will have better detail in shadows, better colour reproduction as well.
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You mean nothing is wrong with those photos?
photos look fine...
if you don't like the white balance on the first one, it's correctable with post processing...
At least tell us what you don't like or what you think is wrong... But they look fine to me. Also hard to say when not knowing the exact lighting conditions.
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At least tell us what you don't like or what you think is wrong... But they look fine to me. Also hard to say when not knowing the exact lighting conditions.
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I don't know the exact word.
There is a 'sandy' area at the first photo for example. The headboard of the bed?
By the way, thank you for all the replies! Thank you for your help!
If you're saying 'nothing's wrong' then may be you are right because you are the experts
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I think this will improve low light quality on our XZP:
https://youtu.be/dz4XoC7ncAI
I had compared xzp with xz2 and xz2 has clear glass on those 3 sensors... Xzp has paint over those 3... one is laser, the other 2 i don't know
We know the phones uses same camera sensors pack, but on XZP the 3 sensors are covered with paint, while on XZ2 it's clear glass.
If anyone has broken back glass, please test if low light photos improve in quality.
Inerent said:
I think this will improve low light quality on our XZP:
https://youtu.be/dz4XoC7ncAI
I had compared xzp with xz2 and xz2 has clear glass on those 3 sensors... Xzp has paint over those 3... one is laser, the other 2 i don't know
We know the phones uses same camera sensors pack, but on XZP the 3 sensors are covered with paint, while on XZ2 it's clear glass.
If anyone has broken back glass, please test if low light photos improve in quality.
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the xz2 has better pics not because of this, but because of better software optimizations and better camera algorithms, as you can see in the video clearly, the guy just trimmed around the sensors because nothing is besides glass on them, I mean why would a successful company like sony place them sensors and then cover them? it makes no sense...
just pray sony will release the camera software on the XZ2 for our xzp
One sensor is for laser, one for infrared, and the third i don't know. But the ir sensor is responsible for low light. Xzp has paint over ir sensor, xz2 has not. You judge for yourself ... Also camera software can improve... but i think the software difference is for 4k hdr and 1080 slow motion, not for photo processing...
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One sensor is for laser, one for infrared, and the third i don't know. But the ir sensor is responsible for low light. Xzp has paint over ir sensor, xz2 has not. You judge for yourself ... Also camera software can improve... but i think the software difference is for 4k hdr and 1080 slow motion, not for photo processing...
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you could be right, the small sensors on the xz2 (the ones below the flash and the white dot) are showing clearly, on the XZP there seems to be black shadow paint covering them but if it really makes a difference why would sony place that paint tent there? and the video you provided, the guy didnt peel the paint off the sensor just around it...
Apart from the frustrating fact that you can't record video and that the ultra-wide lens isn't very wide, the colors and seem to be extremely off in the comparisons I've seen to the point that I don't know if it's solvable through a software update. Maybe fixing the distortion and the super low saturation through software will somewhat save it, I don't know. Heck, even Mi 9 has a clearly superior ultra-wide WITH recording. What do you think? Does anyone that has the phone have a different experience? I want to buy this phone, but at this point in my country it's about the same price as a S10+ (Exynos) and I'm struggling to make a decision.
I wish GCam mods come early to save this mess.
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Apart from the frustrating fact that you can't record video and that the ultra-wide lens isn't very wide, the colors and seem to be extremely off in the comparisons I've seen to the point that I don't know if it's solvable through a software update. Maybe fixing the distortion and the super low saturation through software will somewhat save it, I don't know. Heck, even Mi 9 has a clearly superior ultra-wide WITH recording. What do you think? Does anyone that has the phone have a different experience? I want to buy this phone, but at this point in my country it's about the same price as a S10+ (Exynos) and I'm struggling to make a decision.
I wish GCam mods come early to save this mess.
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I cannot answer specifically to the 7 Pro, but I can tell you that the colour science is off on my now-sold Galaxy S10 Plus Exynos version. Switching between the main lens and the wide angle lens in the same exact lighting and spot yields different colour reproduction. It might be down to the actual lens used in junction with the software, but I can safety say that this problem isn't exclusive to the 7 Pro if anything.
Also, don't buy the Exynos version of the S10. It has garbage battery life, and has different camera lenses to the SD version that have shown to be inferior to the SD version.
There is a setting in the camera called "Ultra Wide Lens Correction." I wonder if testers are switching this setting to see if this is the issue. I just got mine, but it's night time right now so I will need some time to test (but I only have the LG G7 ThinQ to compare to.)
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I cannot answer specifically to the 7 Pro, but I can tell you that the colour science is off on my now-sold Galaxy S10 Plus Exynos version. Switching between the main lens and the wide angle lens in the same exact lighting and spot yields different colour reproduction. It might be down to the actual lens used in junction with the software, but I can safety say that this problem isn't exclusive to the 7 Pro if anything.
Also, don't buy the Exynos version of the S10. It has garbage battery life, and has different camera lenses to the SD version that have shown to be inferior to the SD version.
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Yes, but at least every other wide angle camera in the market gives decent results. 7 Pro's results are very undersaturated, very soft and sometimes seem like out of focus.
I know about the S10+. If it was a Snapdragon version I would have already bought it.
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There is a setting in the camera called "Ultra Wide Lens Correction." I wonder if testers are switching this setting to see if this is the issue. I just got mine, but it's night time right now so I will need some time to test (but I only have the LG G7 ThinQ to compare to.)
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Great! Post some samples when you can. I'm not that worried about the lens correction, I don't mind the distortion. My problem is mainly the saturation and softness of detail. If you can, post original results + "corrected" versions using Snapseed/Photoshop to check if some post-processing saves the day at least. Thank you in advance!
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Yes, but at least every other wide angle camera in the market gives decent results. 7 Pro's results are very undersaturated, very soft and sometimes seem like out of focus.
I know about the S10+. If it was a Snapdragon version I would have already bought it.
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Beauty of OnePlus and this wonderful community is the fact that there'll be GCam for it very soon, and we'll undoubtedly be able to take amazing shots through GCam using the wide angle lens.
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Beauty of OnePlus and this wonderful community is the fact that there'll be GCam for it very soon, and we'll undoubtedly be able to take amazing shots through GCam using the wide angle lens.
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That's what I hope!
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Beauty of OnePlus and this wonderful community is the fact that there'll be GCam for it very soon, and we'll undoubtedly be able to take amazing shots through GCam using the wide angle lens.
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It really depends. It might not be fixable with gcam.
The main camera uses a pretty good sensor. But it is a different sensor for the wide angle lens. So the quality of the wide angle shots will heavily depend on the quality of the sensor they use for their wide angle lens. It might be a weak sensor, we don't know right now. Huawei uses 4 Sony sensors for example, their wide angle pictures are pretty good. And yes, the best hardware is useless without a good software. But the best software also can't fix a bad sensor.
Not saying that it is a bad sensor, it's just that we don't know by now. We might have to wait for a teardown and some talented devs to see what is inside and if it is fixable.
I can only link you the specs from dxomark:
Primary: 48Mp Sony IMX586 sensor (12Mp output size), 26mm-equivalent lens with f/1.6 aperture and OIS
Ultra-wide: 16Mp sensor, 17mm-equivalent lens with f/2.2 aperture
Telephoto: 8Mp sensor, 78mm-equivalent lens with f/2.4 aperture and OIS