Equipped with a Sony IMX179 camera sensor. From the Datasheets of the Sony IMX179 (also in wikipedia list http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exmor ) you may notice that the particular sensor is an 8.0 MP sensor and not 13.0 MP.
That's actually kind of common. The picture is probably interpolated, so that the output picture has 13 MP. This "strategy" does not just affect mobiles, but also compact cameras for example.
It's simple. In some countries there is nothing wrong with do this. Make sure to do your research before getting any device. Also remember that you get what you pay for.
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THe sensor is the heart of a modern digital camera and esp twice so in a mobile phone since other variables such as F stop, zoom factor etc are for the most - frozen.
There are a a lot of budget Chinese phones out there that pose impressive specs , in terms of hosting SONY sensors and 13 20 MP cameras. Look these specs up other places and you find that for the same phone & model & series ...the sensor brand changed from Sony to some Omnixxx ( which is a far cheaper sensor ) so did the true MP resolution. Just as CPU - Z measures phone hardware - is there any software out there that can read your camera sensor brand reliably as well as access true MP in the camera
sieger007 said:
THe sensor is the heart of a modern digital camera and esp twice so in a mobile phone since other variables such as F stop, zoom factor etc are for the most - frozen.
There are a a lot of budget Chinese phones out there that pose impressive specs , in terms of hosting SONY sensors and 13 20 MP cameras. Look these specs up other places and you find that for the same phone & model & series ...the sensor brand changed from Sony to some Omnixxx ( which is a far cheaper sensor ) so did the true MP resolution. Just as CPU - Z measures phone hardware - is there any software out there that can read your camera sensor brand reliably as well as access true MP in the camera
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I have been wondering the same for months, there is not way to tell for sure the real resolution of the camera other than comparing your self, What i did using a cheap polaroid phone is take one photo for every resolution , then use a photo comparison software and compare side by side, there is a point where you cant tell difference between the two pictures then that's the max resolution i figured it out the polaroid phone when from 5mp to 1.2 mp max resolution for photos. for video is worst, it went from 1080p advertised to real 800x600.
to find the video resolution i did the following:
1. record a video using all available resolution using Open camera or any other you can choose resolution from.
2. use video to jpg free software , to extract the frames for each video in different folder.
3. use imagemagick to calculate median blending output image.
now use the same procedure as the photo described before you will find the max real resolution for video.
regards.
hey guys, me and my brother got galaxy s6 devices, we both have MM, i tried both side by side, tried to take a picture of the same object, on my brother phone the quality is much better, if you zoom you can see the difference...and the colors are a bit different, i got the sony sensor, but i can't check for him because the *#34971539# code doesn't work on MM....anyone know why there are some differences?
some s6's have isocell sensor and others have sony imx sensor, there are positives to both types, there is a dedicated thread to this in the general forum
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some s6's have isocell sensor and others have sony imx sensor, there are positives to both types, there is a dedicated thread to this in the general forum
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yes i know, i can't check his phone because of MM, the code doesn't work, my question is, if there should be another reason for this difference, or how can i check the camera FW
Download AIDA64 in playstore.
i used the app, he has samsung sensor, but from what i know sony sensor should be a bit better, but the difference in the pictures is big, he has sharper image, the pictures have been taken in a bit of low light, the colors are a bit different but it's not an issue...
Does anyone know the cam specs of Oneplus 6?
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Does anyone know the cam specs of Oneplus 6?
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according to tech-radar, the specs of the cameras are as follows:
A 20MP and 16MP dual-lens rear camera
A 20MP front-facing camera
Note that these are just rumors at this stage, but here's the source where I got it from if there's anything else you want to know:
https://www.techradar.com/news/oneplus-6-rumors
Hope this helps.
Final Camera specs.
In the rear, we find a dual camera combo consisting of 20 and 16MP snappers whereas the selfie camera is listed as being a 16MP one. In terms of size and dimensions, the OnePlus 6 will likely measure up at 155.7×75.35×7.75mm and tip the scales at 177gr. Android 8.1 will be running the show; we expected nothing less.
I wonder if it will have the OIS, as this is crucial for me when considering this device.
Well it's all known that the back camera of Nokia 8.1 is using Sony 363 sensor but what about the other like depth sensing and front camera there is no mention of the sensor vendors and their tech specs like sensor size ,as per the below link it is also found that Samsung sensors are being used in back cameras too with same specs but in which models it is not sure
https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/model/74cc4ccf
So request if XDA or someone can get into the technical specs of all the sensors with their respective vendors and sensors sizes and share the information
Thanks
I want to know too... It's 20MP, but the photo result is so bad...
Kinda missing my old Oppo N3, which I can tap to focus for front and back with the rotating camera.
What I think about the front camera is of 5MP which manipulates as 20MP. As if you use Gcam port for Nokia 8.1 it shows front camera as 5MP.
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What I think about the front camera is of 5MP which manipulates as 20MP. As if you use Gcam port for Nokia 8.1 it shows front camera as 5MP.
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Gcam takes 5Mpix photos with any 5+ Mpix camera. Photos taken with stock camera app are 20 Mpix, and once again, number of megapixels does not represent the quality of photo, just the size.
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But my old Oppo N3 has 16MP for both front and back cameras in gcam (kinda old version though).
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What I think about the front camera is of 5MP which manipulates as 20MP. As if you use Gcam port for Nokia 8.1 it shows front camera as 5MP.
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Well I am pretty much not interested in gcam junk ports,it's not officially meant to be used on other devices other pixel so it has no whatsoever value in my view on any device ,people can shout as much as they want,second the sensor does the binning from original Nokia cam app it does not and should not have any access to the algorithms used by Nokia.this topic is related to the sensor manafacturers as there is lot of misinformation or information floating around as always of Nokia cameras and requested the XDA team to get into the crux of it ,anyway I am sure the front camera module uses 1/3.1 Samsung sensor and the depth one too on the rear the main 12mp is imx363 as confirmed by Nokia care on the email
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Gcam takes 5Mpix photos with any 5+ Mpix camera. Photos taken with stock camera app are 20 Mpix, and once again, number of megapixels does not represent the quality of photo, just the size.
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It's not the GCam limitations but the sensor and camera app of Nokia 8.1. You can install a hardware info app from play store and it will tell the Nokia 8.1 front cam as 5MP. And in true sense it is a 5MP sensor which uses pixel bining to produce 20MP images. But the picture quality is not up to the mark even after pixel bining.
I installed hw info app,it shows 20.1mp sensor.
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It's not the GCam limitations but the sensor and camera app of Nokia 8.1. You can install a hardware info app from play store and it will tell the Nokia 8.1 front cam as 5MP. And in true sense it is a 5MP sensor which uses pixel bining to produce 20MP images. But the picture quality is not up to the mark even after pixel bining.
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Nope, going from 5mp to 20mp would be a upscaling using something like bilinear interpolation.
Pixel binning is combining pixels to produce a lower resolution but with an increased low light performance, in the case of the Nokia 8.1 it is combining 4 pixels hence the reduction to 5mp from 20.
Gcam is not designed for the anything other than Google products, it doesn't have a clue what is it supposed to be doing on the Nokia 8.1, it just doesn't contain the software necessary to use the front sensor correctly.
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Nope, going from 5mp to 20mp would be a upscaling using something like bilinear interpolation.
Pixel binning is combining pixels to produce a lower resolution but with an increased low light performance, in the case of the Nokia 8.1 it is combining 4 pixels hence the reduction to 5mp from 20.
Gcam is not designed for the anything other than Google products, it doesn't have a clue what is it supposed to be doing on the Nokia 8.1, it just doesn't contain the software necessary to use the front sensor correctly.
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Thanks mate for a conclusive reply. I do agree with you that it may be the interpolation in Nokia 8.1 front camera. As I am no longer using Nokia 8.1 so I can't comment on it any further.
Gcam by itself doesn't limit the supported resolutions to tight values. It's the camera stack implementation of most qcom and non-qcom phones that exposes only the binned raw camera streams from quad bayer sensor.
You can see it here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.camera2.test
The more i read about the Motorola Edge 20 Fusion, i more i want to buy it, but there is a piece of information which i would like to make sense of.
The phone comes with a 108MP main shooter, but the phone's MediaTek Dimensity 800U SoC only supports cameras upto 64MP.
I need to understand what this means in a technical sense:
Will the phone, using either the default camera app or some other app, for eg. OpenCamera, be able to shoot 108MP images?
If not, are (108 - 64 = )36 megapixels just going to be dummies which won't be used at all?
If the whole sensor is going to be used, how is the SoC going to handle the raw data from the sensor? Will the SoC process the raw data in parts?
Is this going to keep the 108MP sensor from realising its full potential?
I am not basing my buying decision on the camera's megapixel count, it may be a marketing gimmick anyways. I know that megapixel count doesn't always translate to picture quality. My current phone, a Motorola G5S Plus has a 13MP rear cam and that megapixel count is enough for me. I am basically going for this phone for the screen and the stock Android experience.
I just need to understand if this is an indicator for any issues etc. which i should know if i buy the phone.
Thanks.
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The more i read about the Motorola Edge 20 Fusion, i more i want to buy it, but there is a piece of information which i would like to make sense of.
The phone comes with a 108MP main shooter, but the phone's MediaTek Dimensity 800U SoC only supports cameras upto 64MP.
I need to understand what this means in a technical sense:
Will the phone, using either the default camera app or some other app, for eg. OpenCamera, be able to shoot 108MP images?
If not, are (108 - 64 = )36 megapixels just going to be dummies which won't be used at all?
If the whole sensor is going to be used, how is the SoC going to handle the raw data from the sensor? Will the SoC process the raw data in parts?
Is this going to keep the 108MP sensor from realising its full potential?
I am not basing my buying decision on the camera's megapixel count, it may be a marketing gimmick anyways. I know that megapixel count doesn't always translate to picture quality. My current phone, a Motorola G5S Plus has a 13MP rear cam and that megapixel count is enough for me. I am basically going for this phone for the screen and the stock Android experience.
I just need to understand if this is an indicator for any issues etc. which i should know if i buy the phone.
Thanks.
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So i have already bought the edge 20 fusion. But even before buying it i was extremely confused when i saw that 800u does not support a 108 mp camera.
I even searched for this on the internet on various forums, but there was nothing. I guess no one else had noticed that till now.
So i went ahead and bought it anyway as i am a Stock android fan and also just like you ,i wanted to experience the 10bit Amoled screen.
So I think that it maybe a marketing gimmick because the camera performance is definitely not like a 108 mp unit, actually far from it. Lets just say it's bad.
Only good thing about it is that, it performs decently in natural light in the outdoors.. that's it.
BUT
if you are going only for the screen and the stock android experience, you won't be disappointed. The screen is really THE BEST in this range. No complaints with the OS as well.
I don't regret buying the phone. But yes, camera should be better at this price (maybe software updates can optimise it a little)
I found no other issue(software or hardware). The battery performance is also very impressive.
Make of it what you will.
I hope this helps
Hi,
I have also purchased Moto Edge 20 Fusion and using it for around 1 month now. Excellent phone. Regarding Primary Camera they are doing Pixel Binning and providing 12 MP photos. They are also using sensor for giving better low light images. There is also option to select full resolution which gives 80 MP image which has size of 12 to 14 MB.
They still have work to do on camera app which moto is working on. In their forum they have said that a update for camera is in the works and soon they will release the same. After the update hope everything will fall in place as far as camera is concerned.
Following are the points in which it accels -
1. Display
2. Battery ( It lasts for 36 to 48 hours for me with SOT ranging from 7 to 9 hours which is damn good
3. Stock Android
4. Hopefully Camera (after the update)
5. 3.5 mm Jack
6. 30W charging with Charger and type c to type c cable included
7. Thinkshield mobile Security