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A1 Branding HTC Desire S

Hello
I bought the HTC Desire S in the A1 Shop a week ago. When I bought it the guy from A1 told me that they have only the first and charge and therefore the devices aren't branded. On the device, there are only some A1 apps which aren't deletable by the normal uninstall function. Nevertheless there is no Providerlogo at the Startup. So do I have now a branded or unbranded Device? Which Softwarenumber or anything else does the unbranded Devices have?
Sim-Lock is also not included. My last Devices from A1 always had a SImlock and a Bootlogo.
Are there any ways or tutorials for Debranding the device right now?
greets

1.28 is htc version
have u even looked at this forum or why u ask such stupid questions?
How to DOWNGRADE Desire S with S-ON
it's on of the first posts in the android development section

Best way is, cause i guess you live in austria like me , go to a handy dealer (lol what word) near you who has an xtc-clip. S-Off it and flash a custom rom like i did .
If you have questions, dont hasitate to pm me.
greetings

datoml said:
Best way is, cause i guess you live in austria like me , go to a handy dealer (lol what word) near you who has an xtc-clip. S-Off it and flash a custom rom like i did .
If you have questions, dont hasitate to pm me.
greetings
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Thx. To which dealer did you get? would the dealer be able to flash the original rom? would i loose the garanty?
If the A1 guy promised me a brandingfree device wouldnt it be deception if I get one with Branding?
greets

yes you will loose garanty cause u can't restore the xtc clip s-off, if u only want branding free use the tutorial i linked u in my 1st post

Blezz said:
1.28 is htc version
have u even looked at this forum or why u ask such stupid questions?
How to DOWNGRADE Desire S with S-ON
it's on of the first posts in the android development section
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Stupid question?
YOU know everything?
Why he should downgrade or use another ROM?
If the "only" thing is to get rid of some apps from /system, you need root.
For permanent root you need s-off:
Austrian shop:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043316
After S-OFF, use gingerbreak & titanium (busybox) and you can uninstall the apks you do not like.

Thx for all of your replies.
To declare a bit what i would like to have.
I don't only want to debrand because of the stupid A1 apps, but much more to get the updates dirctly over HTC. I don't like to wait till A1 releases the Firmeware. For the old Desire A1 released a France Firmware with french Apps!!!!!!!!
This are the things I want to prevent.
Greets

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Stupid question?
YOU know everything?
Why he should downgrade or use another ROM?
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well u read what he wrote? "Are there any ways or tutorials for Debranding the device right now?"
he want's to debrand, htc got lowest version, so he got to... ouuuuuuuuuuh... downgrade!
u wanna get him s-off + loosing guaranty for ever cause u can't restore xtc clip s-off for removing some branding apps? yea, WONDERFUL idea
@juergen: nutze den thread den ich dir gelinkt habe, mit dem downgrade komsmt du auf das orginale htc rom und bist die a1 apps los + bekommst die updates von htc direkt, das ist doch was du wolltest?

ja stimmt.
Möchte es in dem Zustand haben, alls wär ich zum Mediamarkt gegangen und hätte es gekauft, anstatt in den A1 Shop. Ich möchte nur immer die aktuellsten und offiziellen Firmewares von HTC bekommen und nicht ewig auf A1 warten.
English: Yes I want it in a state in which i would get it at Media Markt or Amazon and not liek in the A1 Store. I only want to get always the latest official Firmewares.
Is there a big danger to break the phone?
greets

not really, the temp root + misc_version can't harm your phone duo to s-on and i didnt heard that a ruu goes wrong, except the user is so stupid and pulls the usb cable

Blezz said:
well u read what he wrote? "Are there any ways or tutorials for Debranding the device right now?"
he want's to debrand, htc got lowest version, so he got to... ouuuuuuuuuuh... downgrade!
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And he has do know, that he has to downgrade for this? - YOU called that a "stupid question". He wanted to know HOW. So you gave him corret answer but (unless YOU do a permroot for S-ON ) you should not welcome a newbie this way.
And I gave him another possibility because it was not really clear what he want's. So, what's your problem?
And no guaranty cause off s-off? Only if the error is caused (iirc "ursächlicher Zusammenhang") by the sw-change. Can't image a1 wants publicity at a court - and publicity in the android-communities in such a matter.

nothing do to do with court
s-off = no guarantee cause u changed something with external hardware and modified android system (rooting), so you loose guarantee cause its forbidden, a1 wouldn't get any publicty cause they know they are right

Blezz said:
you loose guarantee cause its forbidden
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It is defintive legal to simunlock the phone (as a side-product it was also S-OFF)
And to root android is forbidden by which law?
So, if they would refuse me guarantee (eg hw-antenna broke != do to with root), we would meet at court.

So now I have only one question left. A user from another forum (he is from Austria) wrote that when he bought his phone that he also had the A1 apps but after he performed a global reset the A1 apps were gone an it seems its debrandet. is it possible that A1 only changed the Software ID for future updates and installed the A1 apps but didn't do it permanently? It also wondered me that they would have made a brandingfirmeware in such a short time. I'm going to figure his softwarenumber out
greets

dont know said:
It is defintive legal to simunlock the phone (as a side-product it was also S-OFF)
And to root android is forbidden by which law?
So, if they would refuse me guarantee (eg hw-antenna broke != do to with root), we would meet at court.
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well maybe, but the xtc clip is not exchanging the bootloader of htc with a enginering bootloader, which is both htc property
the xtc clip is killing the s-off so its modifying htc's protected bootloader, which would result in smth illegal, if i am right

@Blezz @dont know
Do I use garanty by downgrading ?

well you are modifying a1's system, so i guess yes
but you can easily restore it with flashing a1 ruu again
the problem at s-off is simply that u can't restore it again

Blezz said:
well you are modifying a1's system, so i guess yes
but you can easily restore it with flashing a1 ruu again
the problem at s-off is simply that u can't restore it again
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ok the thing is only that A1 should never notice that because I thnk they will send the device to HTZC and wont repair things on their own.

well even if you would need garanty it is easy to flash it back to a1 system if you got the RUU so that shouldnt make a problem now

Ok and how would i get the orignal Ruu from A1?
Can i make a backup of it or is it somewhere on the net.
What kind of steps have to be done in the tutorial of sonikz where he says you can now downgrade with the exe?
I redad with the Desire HD was a Problem if you downgraded to the HTC Firmeware because the OTA Updates didn't work aftwerwards. Whats here with the Desire S? Would I have to change somethng which would cost me my guarantee ?
Whats if my Software id is like this: 1.32.163.1 20.28b.30.0805U_38.03.02.15_M
but the official rom is like this: RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.28.401.1_Radio_20.28b.30.080 5U_38.03.02.11_M_release.
Is there a Problem if the HTC Version has a lower Number than the A1 Version?

Kitkat

Kitkat?

peter-k said:
Kitkat?
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ok.. what's the point of this post? :silly:

Finding out when we will be able to dump that pitiful 4.3.
I am usually not keen for the the latest, and greatest version no.

Three years ago I got Neo V, last of Sony Ericsson line of phones. It came with 2.3.4 then it got its last update to ICS which was disappointing (laggy, a lot of ads, automatic brightness not working properly, wifi drops etc.)
And back to that time Sony was not listening to their customers. They were (and still) answering to a question with another question, rather to giving a possible solution. But today we have sources, in those days developers were forced to write hacks to make things work and fix Sony mistakes, instead of that, it is still great phone, now owned by my father. I see tradition continued with Xperia 2012 line and later. But instead of bad software updates Sony phones are a good combination of value and quality, that's why I choosed M2 instead of LG G2 Mini or something else rather than Sony. So, this 4.3 is expectedly working without any problem so far (not even a single freeze or lag), and hope Sony will not mess up again. Phone is more than capable of running 4.4 even with a lot of unneeded apps we would probably get. I am surprised I got box, foursquare and some other useful apps rather than junk like FIFA and Music Unlimited I got on Xperia Neo V. We have root and cwm already and CM11 will come in time, so nothing to worry about
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True, I bought the M2 since it has a low resolution screen and a fairly high battery capacity compare to the resolution and the Snapdragon S400. I have been using it as my daily driver, no complains at all. Now all I need is an official "move apps to sd card" so that I can save some more internal storage. CM11 is nice for a change, and maybe Android L if possible ( depends on the T2 ultra developers, or maybe someone else )

I have the Neo V myself, IMO, this device simply does not have technical resources running a higher version than 2.3.4 too well.
I have a V, it runs well with ICS, JB 4.1.2, but not with 4.3. It does however run well with KK (Omnirom).
I have the M2. Admittedly it runs better than my V under 4.3. But I keep on reverting to my V with KK, it is even better. In the first place, memory management is better.

According to GSMArena, Sony has started to roll out Kitkat updates to the branded versions of the M2.
Not sure I want to update though, I like my SD card being writable. And who knows if the rooted status will survive the update...

towelroot not work on kk

kinomam0 said:
towelroot not work on kk
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You tried it?

peter-k said:
You tried it?
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It's true, it doesnt work.. I'm trying some other methods..

linuxct said:
It's true, it doesnt work.. I'm trying some other methods..
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If you manage to root w locked BL, pls. post the method. Or just post the entire ftf.

On Neo V there was trick to flash kernel from older release, root then flash again kernel.sin from current release. But it was still ICS, not sure if it will work for kitkat using jellybean kernel. Just an idea

I read somewhere there is a runtime check to block rooting.

Still waiting for kitkat on D2305

Anyone here still waiting for official update to show? I refreshed Updates many times, but still nothing.
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I don't think it has made it to Germany yet (nor Austria), at least not to the unbranded phones. According to XperiFirm, only O2 branded phones have it for now. Switzerland seems to have the update already, though.

Yes, mine is unbranded, thanks.
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I also still waiting. CZ unbranded.
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rooting
Maybe, u can try nicki root method to root newer kitkat frimware ..

[Q] How to root Sony Xperia D6653 OS 4.4.4 on build 23.0.1.A.1.49?

I have searched and I cannot find a root method for the Sony Xperia Z3 (D6653) I have which is running Android OS 4.4.4 and the firmware version is 23.0.1.A.1.49 - can this specific Z3 be rooted? If anyone can point me in the right direction I would be very grateful.
Many thanks.
ianwuk

ianwuk said:
I have searched and I cannot find a root method for the Sony Xperia Z3 (D6653) I have which is running Android OS 4.4.4 and the firmware version is 23.0.1.A.1.49 - can this specific Z3 be rooted? If anyone can point me in the right direction I would be very grateful.
Many thanks.
ianwuk
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search for griefroot, that will give you the only way to root a z3 on a locked bootloader

gregbradley said:
search for griefroot, that will give you the only way to root a z3 on a locked bootloader
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I have already unlocked the bootloader using Sony's website. What are my rooting options for this device with an unlocked bootloader?
Many thanks.
ianwuk

ianwuk said:
I have already unlocked the bootloader using Sony's website. What are my rooting options for this device with an unlocked bootloader?
Many thanks.
ianwuk
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Flash an insecure kernel from the development section
look for advanced stock kernel....
If you have unlocked then it is SOOOOOOo easy to root....
EDIT
Say goodbye to your DRM keys though, if you unlock before rooting you will never see them again. You may want to look in the cross device development section to see the thread about restoring DRM functionality.

gregbradley said:
Flash an insecure kernel from the development section
look for advanced stock kernel....
If you have unlocked then it is SOOOOOOo easy to root....
EDIT
Say goodbye to your DRM keys though, if you unlock before rooting you will never see them again. You may want to look in the cross device development section to see the thread about restoring DRM functionality.
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Can I assume flashing this kernel would be fine?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/orig-development/d66xx-cwm-based-recovery-6-0-4-7-root-t2890116

ianwuk said:
Can I assume flashing this kernel would be fine?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/orig-development/d66xx-cwm-based-recovery-6-0-4-7-root-t2890116
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Should be, they're are others in the development section as well
Just make sure you read the requirements to make sure your phone and firmware are supported

gregbradley said:
Should be, they're are others in the development section as well
Just make sure you read the requirements to make sure your phone and firmware are supported
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I tried it but now I have lost wifi on the device and I am flashing it back to stock. I have searched in the development section and I cannot seem to find anything for 23.0.1.A.1.49 other than the above.

New flex 2 root!!!!!!!

look at the is tweet https://twitter.com/jcase/status/621369177626906624 i think it might be g4 root which technically should work for flex 2 !!! i dont know about you but im excited!!!!!

Google~Android said:
look at the is tweet https://twitter.com/jcase/status/621369177626906624 i think it might be g4 root which technically should work for flex 2 !!! i dont know about you but im excited!!!!!
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Good news! Lets hope its compatible

Good thing there's G4 out there, otherwise we'd be left to rot in the middle of the desert

okay if this going to happen, what to do if we are now 5.0.1 rooted? Howto update 5.1.1? If you're rooted is it possible to install OTA updates?

dadaa1 said:
okay if this going to happen, what to do if we are now 5.0.1 rooted? Howto update 5.1.1? If you're rooted is it possible to install OTA updates?
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best way is to update via kdz

wonder how long till we get the ability to root the flex 2, my batterys been dying so much since root was gone..

If this root works
Does that mean we can get the band unlocks that worked for 5.0.1 to work for 5.1.1 and the gsm unlock?

Flashing D6603 5.1.1 on D6616

Why can't we flash the D6603 pre-rooted XZDR 5.1.1 Rom on a rooted/recovery D6616? I thought the only thing stopping us before was that we did not have root or a custom recovery on the 6616, so we could not do it without losing DRM keys. Has that changed or not?

Because bricking your phone isn't fun

Right, I understand that there are risks involved. What I am trying to understand is what in particular creates those risks. Could you explain a little further why flashing a D6603 zip would brick the D6616?

I am curious about this as well.
I just recently got my Z3, which I had to unlock since I use AT&T. I now want to root and put 5.1 on it, but it seems like the T-Mobile one is so locked down. As far as I know about DRM keys I don't really care about them since I am not planning on using any Sony software (except maybe the camera software) If I could just put 5.1 on it, with a camera app that shoots RAW I would be happy.

What version do you have? We have root for the D6616 but that won't help us get 5.1 from what I can see. Best bet is to get the D6603 if that is what is most important to you.

lordunknown said:
What version do you have? We have root for the D6616 but that won't help us get 5.1 from what I can see. Best bet is to get the D6603 if that is what is most important to you.
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I have the D6616.... I guess I don't care so much about 5.1 as I do getting the best battery life possible. But it looks like custom roms are not available since the boatloader is locked?

dylan43270 said:
I have the D6616.... I guess I don't care so much about 5.1 as I do getting the best battery life possible. But it looks like custom roms are not available since the boatloader is locked?
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That's correct - we're limited to modifications of stock. But that makes me wonder why 5.1.1 wouldn't work.

lordunknown said:
What version do you have? We have root for the D6616 but that won't help us get 5.1 from what I can see. Best bet is to get the D6603 if that is what is most important to you.
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I've been looking for a 5.1.1 for the D6616..... Prerooted.... No one has this yet? I am on 4.4.4 stock rooted ROM, and I have a flashable 5.0.1, but I see no reason to not want 5.1.1, so why do you say root on 5.1.1 isn't doable?

igotroot said:
I've been looking for a 5.1.1 for the D6616..... Prerooted.... No one has this yet? I am on 4.4.4 stock rooted ROM, and I have a flashable 5.0.1, but I see no reason to not want 5.1.1, so why do you say root on 5.1.1 isn't doable?
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It's not root that's not doable. There exist 5.1.1 prerooted zips for D6603. The issue is that 5.1.1 for the D6616 has not been released yet, hence it has not not been rooted.

lordunknown said:
It's not root that's not doable. There exist 5.1.1 prerooted zips for D6603. The issue is that 5.1.1 for the D6616 has not been released yet, hence it has not not been rooted.
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Ah, understood now. Thanks for clarifying.