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Is any difference charging my DHD form PC's USB then charging from original charger ?
I may be wrong, but I think wall charger provides more power than USB or car dock
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I've read many times that using USB, you battery might last longer than using the wall charger. I've never noticed this...
USB seems a bit slower than the wall charger but other than that seems the same.
Install Battery Monitor Widget, and you will see how much current each option gives at different levels of charge.
To be exact, the device DRAWS current, it's not a question of the highest output being the best. If the device can't receive more juice, the additional output cannot be used.
When the battery is nearly empty you will see the biggest current draw - as the charge gets closer to 100%, the amount the device draws drops, until it reaches 0mAh on full charge.
My OEM wall charger provides up to 1000mAh, and the PC USB provides 500mAh, you will initially charge the device faster with the wall charger, until the current drawn by the device drops beneath 500mAh - after which point they will charge equally fast.
That, in the case of my phone (with a Mugen 1500mAh battery) happens around the 60% charge mark. So if the charger outputs are as mentioned above, you wouldn't see any difference in the rate of charging after 60%
HTC wall charger can output 1A with data pin short-circuit. PC USB can output 500~600ma or 1A on some laptop but no data pin short-circuit.
Fast charge mode is 900mA. It is on when data-pin short-circuit is detected OR on a fast-charge enabled ROM (or say, kernel).
Otherwise, it only pull 500ma.
Use your battery in your way. Charge it when you like. DHD can replace battery.
Stating the obvious BUT, of course, you can access your phones storage when connected to PC via USB for charging!
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Also, be careful of using unpowered USB hubs - there may not be sufficient power on the port to charge effectively.
I think charger will have more power. :cyclops:
A wallcharger will always push more amps to the phone.
Don't get confused by people telling you, that wallcharging will damage your battery! That's just not true.
Every phone has an inbuild unit, that controls the amps going to the battery.
Charger outputs more power and therefore it charges faster. Some kernels have the option called "fast charge" which allow you phone to drain more power from the PC and allow it to charge almost as fast as via charger. You can not access files while connected to the PC if the "fast charge" option is enabled.
As already stated above, AC charging is generally faster.
Now many people say that charging by USB will make your phone last longer, but from my personal experience is quite opposite, plus, usb charging is easily interrupted (PC hibernating, stand-by, restarting, etc...). if you are comfortable with both ways (neither PC nor wall outlet too far away), use wall AC.
interesting, i noticed charging via AC (wall) gives my dying battery that extra oomph and seems to make my phone last longer in the day
I think Charger is always best than PC charging.
Its fast.
AC charging is faster due to a higher voltage and ma charge rate
USB uses a much more lower voltage and ma charge rate, it is true that USB charging is SLOWER and a myth is that USB charging does make your battery last longer.
On sense 2.1 I noticed my battery last 4 days with low - medium ussage because I only charged with USB but now I charge with AC with medium ussage my battery lasts a day.
With kernel tuner you can add a 4x4 widget which can tell you the voltage and mah raise / drain
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I think the power if you charger the mobile from Charger it will be faster more than PC charging
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As already stated above, AC charging is generally faster.
Now many people say that charging by USB will make your phone last longer, but from my personal experience is quite opposite, plus, usb charging is easily interrupted (PC hibernating, stand-by, restarting, etc...). if you are comfortable with both ways (neither PC nor wall outlet too far away), use wall AC.
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+1. I vote AC charging
Charging with Original charger is awesome
Charging from Orginal charger takes less time then chargin from a pc usb
Charging from charger is faster, but charging from USB is more stable, as far as I know...Because it has a balanced voltage all the time. Not sure though. Just heard from somewhere.
Hello, I recently got a 6500mAh battery and it comes with an USB adapter. The problem is that when I charge the battery with the adapter using an USB cable, it charges incredibly slow, about 10% per hour. However, on the stock battery, it charges lots faster using the stock adapter, about 50% per hour. Also, when I use an app called DU Battery Saver Pro from the Play Store, with the stock battery and charger, it says that the charging process is AC charging, but with the extended battery and the third party charger, it says that it was a USB charging. What exactly differ that two kinds of charging? I believe that the amperage matters...
Here is the spec of the third party charger and the battery:
- Battery: 3.7VDC, 6500mAh, Li-ion 3.7V, rechargeable
- Charger: Input: AC100-240V~50/60Hz 150mA
Output: DC4.35V 350+-50mA
DC5.2V 800mA (USB)
Hi,
I noticed that when I recharge it with a charger that is only 650ma the battery last much longer than with turbo charger that came with the phone.
Even in standby after recharged it takes one hour to consume only 1% but after turbo recharging it takes about 10 min to drop 1%.
Is there anyone experiencing something like that?
Funny it is.... The case is opposite for me... Although I use Transomart QC 2.0 charger. My battery lasts longer when I charge it with quick charger compared to standard 1 Amp chargers.
That´s so weird.
I am preparing a comparison to figure out what's happening.
It happens the same here. I've a Aukey turbo charger and the battery drains faster
pesimeao said:
It happens the same here. I've a Aukey turbo charger and the battery drains faster
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I also got Aukey and it's the same
There's no way to actually know the charge (in mAh) of a battery without draining the battery. The way that phones estimate the charge is by measuring the voltage of the battery. Quick Charge 2.0 (supported by the Moto X 2014) uses a higher voltage to charge the battery faster. This can make the battery hit max voltage before it is actually fully charged. That is why Quick Charge always advertises how quickly it gets to 80%. To get to full charge (not just when it shows 100%, but when it is actually fully charged) will take about the same time as a standard charger.
Heat and Turbo charge destroys your battery.
if i turbo charge , my phone will suddenly die when it's between 10-20%. W/ regular charging I get sudden death at 6-8%
i use a moto razr 850mah charger and solved the 8% sud power off, took 2 charge cycles from death to 100% leaving it overnight. Now battery works as it should
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As I've been reading around (can't recall specific scientific data), the faster you charge the battery, the less capacity it can hold. So it makes sense that it lasts longer if you charge it slowly. I don't know how much would be the difference tho.
It is normal in my opinion. Slower charging is also healthier for the battery and usually will last longer
Has anyone ever used a wireless charging pad with the phone. I bought a stick-on one from amazon and it charges fine,,,slower but fine. However, I noticed that it tends to get suck at certain levels and if I take off the wireless charger at say 89 percent,,,it takes less than a min to go to 100 percent charged?
Recomendeed is charge with Motorola original charger of this device, i mean 1150mAh dual port charger
Anyone here with experience of using Motorola's Turbopower 15 wall charger? I'm thinking to buy one, because waiting for 1 hr to charge to 100% is quite annoying.
XZ's battery charge time is 2.5 hour from 25%, is it normal?
I turned on battery care mode.
Battery care is turned on?
Mine also came with a slow charger. When I plug it to my portable battery, it can still be pretty fast (and hot...)
With stock UCH 12 charger it takes my phone about 1,5h to get fully charge. 30min to 60% and 1h for the rest. It seems like Sony disabled any type of QuickCharge above 60% to prevent battery damage and it doesnt matter what type of charger you would use alter that - it will stick to 1000mA all the time.
Two things:
1) are you using QuickCharge charger?
2) do you or any of your apps use phone while charging?
Any of those would prolong charging time.
L3RAT said:
With stock UCH 12 charger it takes my phone about 1,5h to get fully charge. 30min to 60% and 1h for the rest. It seems like Sony disabled any type of QuickCharge above 60% to prevent battery damage and it doesnt matter what type of charger you would use alter that - it will stick to 1000mA all the time.
Two things:
1) are you using QuickCharge charger?
2) do you or any of your apps use phone while charging?
Any of those would prolong charging time.
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Please see my answer are listed below and thanks
1) are you using QuickCharge charger?
Yep.
The charger is UCH12.
2) do you or any of your apps use phone while charging?
No.
I turned off the phone during charging.
jeffreywen said:
Please see my answer are listed below and thanks
1) are you using QuickCharge charger?
Yep.
The charger is UCH12.
2) do you or any of your apps use phone while charging?
No.
I turned off the phone during charging.
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Try to keep it turned on then. I guess Sony could set offline charging to minimal settings and control QuickCharge with software. Try "Ampere" app to check how many ampers are you getting while charging (download from play store, no root required). It should oscillate from 700mA to 2500mA. If not (e.g. stuck at 1000mA) it means your charger could be defective and should be exchange for new one.
man. I got 75% in an hour while the phone was off :/ using the same charger as yours so there must be a problem, try to change the cable
Guys does anyone know if the USB type-C cable which comes with the non-fast charger is 3.0 Quick Charge compatible?? I've ordered a Anker 3.0 Quick Charge charger just wanted to make sure the cable is.
My case is even worse, tales 3 hours to charge from 13% to 97%
I am even using the newest Sony 3A usb c to c quick charger!
What the hell..
XZ support QC 3.0 so it should be able to charge from 0%(theoretically) up to 100% 1h40-1h50 using a QC 3.0.
During my few weeks i've had this phone (recived with UCH20 charger) i tried to test phone's ability to charge quickly and failed it took usually 2-2h20 min with original charger. I've ordered chinese charger (sony's UCH12W is 4 times more expensive, even samsungs and htc chargers are much more cheaper).
During tests (using ampre) i tried to start charging when battery dropped to 10%. I used 2 charges original UCH20,Tronsmart WC1T and 3 USB-C cables 1x original, 1x unknown chinese, 1x tronsmart(original included with a charger).
Conclusion:
UCH20 is slower, Ampere won't show more than 1560mA 10-60/70% then something around 1100mA and 780 or less 90-100%
WC1T is faster, 10-60% 2220mA (or less depends on throttling/temperature) then about 1500mA to 90% and less than 1000mA (usually 500-800mA) 90-100%
Tested with onvo adaptive charging on, stamina off, wifi on, brightness auto (0-40%), there was no difference betwen cables only unknown chinese cable was slightly slower but that is only my opinion. Battery temperature oscylated between 26-37/38°C(Ampere)
This phone will only fast charge up to 60/70% then it slows down a bit and last 10% is slow, it should preserve battery health yet still allow you to charge it quickly when in a hurry so u can use it for another few hours until you'll get back home and plug it for a night.
bucho144 said:
XZ support QC 3.0 so it should be able to charge from 0%(theoretically) up to 100% 1h40-1h50 using a QC 3.0.
During my few weeks i've had this phone (recived with UCH20 charger) i tried to test phone's ability to charge quickly and failed it took usually 2-2h20 min with original charger. I've ordered chinese charger (sony's UCH12W is 4 times more expensive, even samsungs and htc chargers are much more cheaper).
During tests (using ampre) i tried to start charging when battery dropped to 10%. I used 2 charges original UCH20,Tronsmart WC1T and 3 USB-C cables 1x original, 1x unknown chinese, 1x tronsmart(original included with a charger).
Conclusion:
UCH20 is slower, Ampere won't show more than 1560mA 10-60/70% then something around 1100mA and 780 or less 90-100%
WC1T is faster, 10-60% 2220mA (or less depends on throttling/temperature) then about 1500mA to 90% and less than 1000mA (usually 500-800mA) 90-100%
Tested with onvo adaptive charging on, stamina off, wifi on, brightness auto (0-40%), there was no difference betwen cables only unknown chinese cable was slightly slower but that is only my opinion. Battery temperature oscylated between 26-37/38°C(Ampere)
This phone will only fast charge up to 60/70% then it slows down a bit and last 10% is slow, it should preserve battery health yet still allow you to charge it quickly when in a hurry so u can use it for another few hours until you'll get back home and plug it for a night.
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Good post, thanks for sharing,
I ve recently brought Anker PowerPort+1 charger QC3.0 compatible and used stock Sony cable and max output I got was 2180mA max using Ampere too.. What my question is now what should the XZ be drawing max? near 3000mA?? Battery care Off.
Ive ordered PortaPow 20AWG cable it states its also QC3.0 compatible so lets see how much it get and if it makes any difference to the charge times.
I will post my results in the next 2 days.
Hello everyone!
I recently purchased a Mi note 5 pro that comes with a 5V,2A charger out of the box.
While using it I realised the phone started warming up while charging with it- The phone reached a temperature of 42 deg C (well, the device got significantly warm).
Concerned, I tried out an old Samsung charger (5V,0.7A) with my Mi device and realised the charging temperature was much less (35 deg C) (here, the device remained cool).
Well, I wanted to know:
- Is it safe to charge the Li-ion battery at low charging currents (voltage is constant at 5V) ?
- Is it okay to use a different manufacturer's charger with my device (even if the charger is a genuine one)?
Also,
-I don't have a problem with longer charging times
-I frequently keep the device plugged in and maintain the charge between 20% and 80% (and full charge cycle once or twice a month)
-I am a heavy user but I avoid using the device while it is plugged in
-AccuBattery was the app I used for battery measurements
In the end I'm just curious to know how to prolong the battery life of my device and I'd really appreciate the help.
Thank you
1. Yes it's absolutely fine to charge at a low charging current. It is in fact better for the battery to charge it at a low current.
2. Yes, it's also absolutely fine to charge with different chargers, the quality of the charger is what is important.
willhemmens said:
1. Yes it's absolutely fine to charge at a low charging current. It is in fact better for the battery to charge it at a low current.
2. Yes, it's also absolutely fine to charge with different chargers, the quality of the charger is what is important.
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Thank you