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Detailed SM-G935 (S7) Info
Item / Description
OS / Android OS: V6.0.1 (Marshmallow)
Kernel / 3.18.20
RF / LTE Cat.11 (600/50Mbps)
Battery / 3600mAh
encryption / Full Disk Encryption
Base Band / 2.4GHz Quad + 1.6GHz Quad
Other RF / A-GPS, BEIDOU, Glonass, BT 4.2, USB 2.0 Type B, NFC, WIFI 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac MIMO, MST, Three Channel CA
Camera / 12MP A/F, OIS(Main) with LED Flash, 5MP(Front)
Video Recording Resolution / UHD 4K (3840 x 2160)@30fps
Video Playback Resolution / UHD 4K (3840 x 2160)@60fps
LCD / 5.5" UB WQHD, 1440×2560
RAM / 4GB DDR4
Sensor / Accelerometer, Gyro, Proximity, Compass, Hall, RGB, Fingerprint, Heart Rate.Light
Display Protection / Corning Gorilla Glass 4
CPU~GPU Speed / Exynos 8890 4 x 2.3 GHz - 4 x 1.6 GHz ~ Mali T880 MP12 650 MHz, Snapdragon 820 2x2.2 GHz -2x1.5 GHz~ Adreno 530 624 MHz
GPU Cores / Exynos = 8~Mali = 12, Snapdragon= 4~Adreno=4
Accessory
Charger: 5V/2A (AFC: 9V/1.67A)
Data cable: 2.7pi, 1.2m
Ear phone: 3.5pi, 4pin
Optional Galaxy S7 edge Keyboard Cover
Optional Fast Charge Wireless Charging Stand
S/W Installation Program / Odin3 v3.11.1.exe
Enter into Download Mode
- Enter into Download Mode by pressing Volume Down button, Home button and ON/OFF
Button simultaneously followed by pressing Volume up button as a direction of the phone.
Supported LTE Bands
SM-G935V Verizon has LTE B2/4/5/13
SM-G935P Sprint has LTE B2/4/5/12/25/25/26/41
SM-G935A AT&T has LTE B2/4/5/12/29(DL only)/30
SM-G935T T-Mobile has LTE B2/4/5/12
SM-G935R4 US Cellular has LTE B2/4/5/12/13/25/26
SM-G935F Global has LTE B1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/17/18/19/20/25/26/28/38/39/40/41
Models to confirm
SM-G9350 SIM2 Hong Kong
SM-G935S Korea SK Telecom
SM-G935L Korea LG Uplus
SM-G935K Korea KT+
SM-G9359 SIM2 China (GSM)
SM-G9358 SIM2 China (CDMA)
SM-G935FD SIM2 Southeast Asia
SM-G935W8 Canada
SM-G935J Japan
SM-G935X Demo Unit/Prototype No LTE ?
SM-G935D China/Korea Anycall Mobile
SM-G935T and SM-G935A has no CDMA
Parts which must be changed after repair to maintain IP68
GH81-13556A A/S TAPE-BACK_GLASS
GH81-13555A A/S TAPE-BACK_GLASS_ISLAND
GH02-12464A TAPE DOUBLE FACE-REAR_ISLAND
How to remove back glass
put the device on the Hot plate for
3 minutes under 140 °F.
Want to expose your phone to water?
avoid hot water, salt water, ionized water, or soapy water.
Just remember water damage will void your warranty
SM-G935F Part list:
Here
manuals for the SM-G935F
Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Owners Group
http://forum.xda-developers.com/group.php?groupid=1675
Good info if you have to return your phone and what they look for.
Thanks
BennyJr
mathieulh
WouterNLD
Xileforce
I see verizon bands...I wonder if it would work. According to the FCC papers, it won't, however.
BennyJr said:
I see verizon bands...I wonder if it would work. According to the FCC papers, it won't, however.
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https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=2895534
Three countries all building this phone, All have A3LSMG935US. Looks like all are the same phone.
BennyJr said:
I see verizon bands...I wonder if it would work. According to the FCC papers, it won't, however.
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https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=2894135
FFC clearly labels all models together for LTE testing.
BennyJr said:
I see verizon bands...I wonder if it would work. According to the FCC papers, it won't, however.
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I found the Answer this shows the differences.
SM-G935V has LTE B2/4/5/13
SM-G935P has LTE B2/4/5/12/25/25/26/41
SM-G935A has LTE B2/4/5/12/29(DL only)/30
SM-G935T has LTE B2/4/5/12
SM-G935R4 has LTE B2/4/5/12/13/25/26
SM-G935T and SM-G935A has no CDMA
Kernel version is 3.18.20 if you want to add that too.
Is this for the international SM-G935F version ? Because everywhere I look (on the internet), I don't see the FDD LTE band 28 supported. It would be great if it was as we have a FDD LTE Service on band 28 that starts as early as April 2016 here (Paris, France)
UPDATE: apparently, according to Vodafone New Zealand, it does support band 28
http://www.vodafone.co.nz/MEDIA_ProductCatalog/m940121_Samsung_SM-G935F_Product_Datasheet_1_14.pdf
mathieulh said:
Is this for the international SM-G935F version ? Because everywhere I look (on the internet), I don't see the FDD LTE band 28 supported. It would be great if it was as we have a FDD LTE Service on band 28 that starts as early as April 2016 here (Paris, France)
UPDATE: apparently, according to Vodafone New Zealand, it does support band 28
http://www.vodafone.co.nz/MEDIA_ProductCatalog/m940121_Samsung_SM-G935F_Product_Datasheet_1_14.pdf
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I will start listing more variations soon thank you.
If anyone needs more part info I can get it.
mathieulh said:
Is this for the international SM-G935F version ? Because everywhere I look (on the internet), I don't see the FDD LTE band 28 supported. It would be great if it was as we have a FDD LTE Service on band 28 that starts as early as April 2016 here (Paris, France)
UPDATE: apparently, according to Vodafone New Zealand, it does support band 28
http://www.vodafone.co.nz/MEDIA_ProductCatalog/m940121_Samsung_SM-G935F_Product_Datasheet_1_14.pdf
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LTE Band 20 is also used in Europe, why isn't it listed on any models?
norti said:
LTE Band 20 is also used in Europe, why isn't it listed on any models?
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this is the global version and source is SEA it shows the LTE band 20 here
I unpacked the boot.IMG and checked the ramdisk and the s7 also has force encrypt enabled. Meaning it's encrypted at first boot and can't be unencrypted without flashing a modified image.
Xileforce said:
I unpacked the boot.IMG and checked the ramdisk and the s7 also has force encrypt enabled. Meaning it's encrypted at first boot and can't be unencrypted without flashing a modified image.
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added note about the full disk encryption.
and if you have level 3 repairs knowledge..here's the official S7 schematics
http://www.mediafire.com/download/23u7atca8hii789/SM-G930F_Tshoo_7.pdf
Sunderwear said:
and if you have level 3 repairs knowledge..here's the official S7 schematics
http://www.mediafire.com/download/23u7atca8hii789/SM-G930F_Tshoo_7.pdf
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I have the whole Service manual but I was reluctant to upload as the message on all the pages "Distribution, transmission, or infringement of any content or data from this document without Samsung’s written authorization is strictly prohibited."
https://support.t-mobile.com/commun...es/android/samsung_galaxy_s_7_edge#id_1300076
2G/3G/4G/LTE Capable
GSM: '850, 900, 1800, 1900
UMTS: Band5(850), Band4(AWS), Band2(1900), Band1(2100)
LTE: B2,B4,B12
LTE Roaming: B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B18/B19/B20
TDD 38,39,40,41
TDSCDMA : Band34, Band39
Whats the difference between LTE and LET Roaming?
hayga said:
https://support.t-mobile.com/commun...es/android/samsung_galaxy_s_7_edge#id_1300076
2G/3G/4G/LTE Capable
GSM: '850, 900, 1800, 1900
UMTS: Band5(850), Band4(AWS), Band2(1900), Band1(2100)
LTE: B2,B4,B12
LTE Roaming: B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B18/B19/B20
TDD 38,39,40,41
TDSCDMA : Band34, Band39
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Can anyone shed any light on the difference b/t LTE and LTE Roaming, if i decide to get the 820 Tmobile version instead of the international exynos version will i still be ok? (im on bands 1,3,7) so i would assume ill be "roaming" the entire time....
Here
manuals for the SM-G935F and others
spyderdreams said:
Here
manuals for the SM-G935F and others
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You wouldn't have the JIG firmware by any chance ? (The one that resets the knox counter on Exynos based phones)
Related
Hey man!! we know Nexus 5 D821 is 4G lte suppored.. but in India Lte is launched by airtel in some states using Band 40 2300mhz TD-LTE . So i wanted to know if its working or not ? (Indian lte = band 40 2300mhz TD-LTE).
I checked out some xda forums that says Lg g2 has snapdragon 800 and is capable of 4g lte In india. it does just require software update to do so! Is this true? (link = http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2455684&page=4 CHECK OUT POST NO. 35 and 39)
If yes Then NEXUS 5 should too?????:
The only thing stopping me from buying this phone is Will it support Indian LTE in future!!!::crying:
A help is much appriciated....:fingers-crossed:
Hello any one there!
Some one needs help right down here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
akjha96 said:
Some one needs help right down here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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D821 Indian version does not support band 40 so I doubt it will be possible and another thing As per I know radio signals does not only depend upon the processor, there is much more than that.
read the post
varuntis1993 said:
D821 Indian version does not support band 40 so I doubt it will be possible and another thing As per I know radio signals does not depend upon the processor.
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Check out the link and post no. which i have give in my post and then only reply PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I meant to say it does not only depend upon the SOC, there is much more than that.
My bad I forgot to check out post no. 39...will have to see now
The Snapdragon 800 radio can only physically handle 7 LTE bands at the same time. If it could handle more, there would be no need for a D820 and a D821.
Now I am not sure how these bands are controlled on the WRT1605L. It will either be physical hardware configuration (different MSM8974 in D820 or D821) or Software (firmware) however, even if it is the latter, don't get your hopes up. It would not be possible for us to change the firmware of the radio.
rootSU said:
The Snapdragon 800 radio can only physically handle 7 LTE bands at the same time. If it could handle more, there would be no need for a D820 and a D821.
Now I am not sure how these bands are controlled on the WRT1605L. It will either be physical hardware configuration (different MSM8974 in D820 or D821) or Software (firmware) however, even if it is the latter, don't get your hopes up. It would not be possible for us to change the firmware of the radio.
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I think iphone 5s and 5c also have the same receiver and they recently got a carrier update in India and now they do support 4g in India....I think the hardware supports it but you could tell us more about it?
The hardware may support it if it is pre-configured at the factory. Nexus 5 is not.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
Little doublt still
rootSU said:
The hardware may support it if it is pre-configured at the factory. Nexus 5 is not.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
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Then how come in given link he says and shows Pic (in attachments). If its not possible then how come apple did it .. Correct me if i am wrong but apple didnt change the hardware inside , i think.
Didn't catch the ball
rootSU said:
The Snapdragon 800 radio can only physically handle 7 LTE bands at the same time. If it could handle more, there would be no need for a D820 and a D821.
Now I am not sure how these bands are controlled on the WRT1605L. It will either be physical hardware configuration (different MSM8974 in D820 or D821) or Software (firmware) however, even if it is the latter, don't get your hopes up. It would not be possible for us to change the firmware of the radio.
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Need MORE EXPLATION ON THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
akjha96 said:
Hey man!! we know Nexus 5 D821 is 4G lte suppored.. but in India Lte is launched by airtel in some states using Band 40 2300mhz TD-LTE . So i wanted to know if its working or not ? (Indian lte = band 40 2300mhz TD-LTE).
I checked out some xda forums that says Lg g2 has snapdragon 800 and is capable of 4g lte In india. it does just require software update to do so! Is this true? (link = http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2455684&page=4 CHECK OUT POST NO. 35 and 39)
If yes Then NEXUS 5 should too?????:
The only thing stopping me from buying this phone is Will it support Indian LTE in future!!!::crying:
A help is much appriciated....:fingers-crossed:
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Yes brother it will support
Even Reliance is working on it
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
akjha96 said:
Then how come in given link he says and shows Pic (in attachments). If its not possible then how come apple did it .. Correct me if i am wrong but apple didnt change the hardware inside , i think.
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Because it was limited by software, not at a hardware level. Different phone. Different radio configuration. They cannot change the physical limitations. They did not change the physical limitations. They just allowed it in software.
The radio is limited to 7 bands so if your radio has all 7 bands used and your band is not one if them then you're out if luck. Both nexus models are already configured for maximum bands
Edit> Let me try to put this another way. The hardware is limited to 7 bands. Google / LGE whatever realised with the Nexus 5 that they could use the hardware to it's maximum capacity in 2 models (7 bands) and cover all the regions that they planned to release to at the time of release. So both the D820 and D821 are at maximum band capacity.
Some other phones that may use the same radio may be released in more geographical areas and need more than 2 models, so they release 3 but instead of for example releasing 2 capable of 7 bands and a 3rd capable of 2 (for example), they release 3 capable of 3 bands each (again, for example)... So these 3 phones still have 4 unused bands left, unlike Nexus 5 which has 0 free bands.
So either the band is already there or it is not. There is no "software update" that can "unlock" additional bands. The radio hardware must be "reconfigured" completely. All capable bands are already available on tehe Nexus. To "add" a band would mean a band needs replacing which as yet, is not possible.
As I said earlier, I am not sure if the radio is physically configured or firmware managed but it is done at the factory. Whether they can do something in future (if it is the latter) remains to be seen but certainly at the moment, there is nothing that can be done.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
Mr hOaX said:
Yes brother it will support
Even Reliance is working on it
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
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can you send me some pics depicting the said situation please..:cyclops:
Late reply but>>>>>>>>
rootSU said:
Because it was limited by software, not at a hardware level. Different phone. Different radio configuration. They cannot change the physical limitations. They did not change the physical limitations. They just allowed it in software.
The radio is limited to 7 bands so if your radio has all 7 bands used and your band is not one if them then you're out if luck. Both nexus models are already configured for maximum bands
Edit> Let me try to put this another way. The hardware is limited to 7 bands. Google / LGE whatever realised with the Nexus 5 that they could use the hardware to it's maximum capacity in 2 models (7 bands) and cover all the regions that they planned to release to at the time of release. So both the D820 and D821 are at maximum band capacity.
Some other phones that may use the same radio may be released in more geographical areas and need more than 2 models, so they release 3 but instead of for example releasing 2 capable of 7 bands and a 3rd capable of 2 (for example), they release 3 capable of 3 bands each (again, for example)... So these 3 phones still have 4 unused bands left, unlike Nexus 5 which has 0 free bands.
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BUT N5 D821 has one free band
Outside North America (D821) Nexus 5 model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/20
Ok great!
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
Delhi NCR got FDD-LTE(Band 3) + TDD-LTE(Band 40) from Airtel, it works fine on my Nexus 5. I was in a low signal region and tested the speeds on the Nexus 5(supports only band 3) and Redmi Note 4g (supports both band 3 and band 40)
The results were:
N5: 5.6mbps/1.84mbps 37ms ping
Redmi Note 4g: 5.75mbps/1.05mbps 55ms ping
The speeds are really low for LTE but the signal strength was at best -107dBm. I will probably test once again when I get a good signal.
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New test with signal strength around -100dBm
Will Airtel 4G work on my Nexus 5 in Maharashtra?
Will Airtel 4G work on my Nexus 5 in Maharashtra? I guess the customer care told me in Maharashtra they are using FDD.
They further mentioned that I will get 4G Speeds, but I might still see H+ on the handset instead of LTE.
Confused!!!! Should I go for 4G for not?
tejasjuthani said:
Will Airtel 4G work on my Nexus 5 in Maharashtra? I guess the customer care told me in Maharashtra they are using FDD.
They further mentioned that I will get 4G Speeds, but I might still see H+ on the handset instead of LTE.
Confused!!!! Should I go for 4G for not?
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Get the free 4G sim from any airtel store, only a 2minute form fill up and a message to 121 is required.
Put the phone in LTE mode in settings.
Download LTE Discovery from playstore to see if you get LTE signals and the signal strength (-95dBm or more would be OK)
If you get LTE signals and the phone registers fine on LTE then you can subscribe a 1 day 3g pack to check speeds, if all goes well then you should be good to go with 4g.
Tagtag123 said:
Get the free 4G sim from any airtel store, only a 2minute form fill up and a message to 121 is required.
Put the phone in LTE mode in settings.
Download LTE Discovery from playstore to see if you get LTE signals and the signal strength (-95dBm or more would be OK)
If you get LTE signals and the phone registers fine on LTE then you can subscribe a 1 day 3g pack to check speeds if all goes well then you should be good to go with 4g.
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Thanks for your quick response. I have already taken the 4g sim however the airtel gallery folks said that 4g LTE is not compatible with Nexus 5. Even the device 4g combability test on airtel's website shows an exclamation mark.
I am by no means getting LTE, even though in settings LTE mode is enabled. Have downloaded LTE Discovery app too, but no luck.
Any other thing I am missing out on? Are other users in Maharashtra also facing a similar issue?
Nexus 5 doesnt support band 40 (tdd-lte), band used by airtel for LTE in many circles. So that is why it isn't listed online on airtel's checklist. Delhi-NCR got both TDD-LTE and FDD-LTE, so nexus 5 works here.
Anyway, right now its not worth it. Very expensive and totally not worth it. Other telcos will use FDD-LTE, which is supported by Nexus 5. So, by that time the rates and QoS will be better and the nexus 5 will be supported.
I've been trying to find the LTE bands for the International/European version of the S6/edge for a couple weeks now but have had no luck with any sites I trust. I was able to come across this site: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&...g925f_galaxy_s6_edge_lte-a_128gb_samsung_zero
Does anyone know how accurate this site is or know of where I might be able to find trustworthy specs?
Also interested in this. I might get an international version, but want to know if it will work here on the US on the AT&T network
Sent from my SM-G900T
Interested as well, if the international version supports ATT Lte that would be awesome
This is what I've been able to find out thus far:
GS6
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c.../4932.html?view=lte+&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
GS6 Edge
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c....html?view=terminal+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
GN4
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/devices/certified-devices/4649.html?view=terminal
GN4 Edge
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/devices/certified-devices/4738.html?view=terminal
HTC M9
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/certification/lte/lte-devices/4828.html?view=lte
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/certification/lte/lte-devices/4827.html?view=lte
LG G3
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/devices/certified-devices/4473.html?view=terminal
Certification Chart
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/certification/scope/current-scope.html
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This is what I've been able to find out thus far:
GS6
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c.../4932.html?view=lte+&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
GS6 Edge
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c....html?view=terminal+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
GN4
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/devices/certified-devices/4649.html?view=terminal
GN4 Edge
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/devices/certified-devices/4738.html?view=terminal
HTC M9
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/certification/lte/lte-devices/4828.html?view=lte
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/certification/lte/lte-devices/4827.html?view=lte
LG G3
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/devices/certified-devices/4473.html?view=terminal
Certification Chart
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/certification/scope/current-scope.html
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And what is the conclusion of this?
Sent from my SM-G900T
senneca01 said:
This is what I've been able to find out thus far:
GS6
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c.../4932.html?view=lte+&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
GS6 Edge
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c....html?view=terminal+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
GN4
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/devices/certified-devices/4649.html?view=terminal
GN4 Edge
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/devices/certified-devices/4738.html?view=terminal
HTC M9
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/certification/lte/lte-devices/4828.html?view=lte
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/certification/lte/lte-devices/4827.html?view=lte
LG G3
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/devices/certified-devices/4473.html?view=terminal
Certification Chart
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/certification/scope/current-scope.html
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That looks pretty damn official to me! Thanks!
Yes, it will work on AT&T and T-mobile.
http://www.gsmnation.com/samsung-galaxy-s6-unlocked.html
jorgenask said:
And what is the conclusion of this?
Sent from my SM-G900T
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It means the phone(s) should work on both AT&T and T-Mobile. AT&T uses bands 2, 4, and 17. T-Mobile uses 2, 4, and 12. The International version supposedly supports 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 18, 19, 20, 26.
Japultra said:
It means the phone(s) should work on both AT&T and T-Mobile. AT&T uses bands 2, 4, and 17. T-Mobile uses 2, 4, and 12. The International version supposedly supports 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 18, 19, 20, 26.
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Sorry for stating the obvious, but no support for band 17 and 12 on the international version then? What does this mean in teems of coverage and speed?
Sent from my SM-G900T
jorgenask said:
Sorry for stating the obvious, but no support for band 17 and 12 on the international version then? What does this mean in teems of coverage and speed?
Sent from my SM-G900T
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Where there are cell towers that are broadcasting using bands 12 or 17, you will not be able to get LTE coverage, but you will be able to get coverages for towers broadcasting on bands 2 and 4. Your real world coverage will depend on where you live and how each carrier has decided to configure their networks, but you will be able to have LTE for both.
[edit] Both 12 and 17 are 700mhz frequencies, which means that indoor coverage will not be as good if you don't have those frequencies. So that's a trade-off you might want to think about before going with the International version. Though for the most part, many people will have access to a wi-fi network while at work and at home, which I assume would be where most people would be for most of their day.
From what I've been reading, WiFi calling/texting features only work if you buy a T-Mobile specific device. Any other phones used on T-Mobile won't work with WiFi calling/texting features. That alone is the reason I would not buy an international phone and use it on T-Mobile.
senneca01 said:
From what I've been reading, WiFi calling/texting features only work if you buy a T-Mobile specific device. Any other phones used on T-Mobile won't work with WiFi calling/texting features. That alone is the reason I would not buy an international phone and use it on T-Mobile.
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What texting features are you talking about? Are you saying SMS won't work period?
Hi guys,
I have noticed that the verison I can purchase in France is the SM-G920FZ-02. Is it the same thing as the SM-G920F ?
I am unable to find the LTE bands for this version...
If it is not the case, I guess i could just get the SM-G920F from another country ? I've seen it on the UK version of the Samsung website.
I'm travelling a lot between Europe and the US so it's one of my main concerns but apparently Samsung doesn't give too much information on this yet!
FCC filing show the international model will support LTE band 2, 4, 12 among others: https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=794688&fcc_id=A3LSMG920F
Based on the info so far in this thread , it would seem like a safe conclusion that the 920F international version would indeed work fine on the AT&T LTE network
So does it support 12 and 17?? I'd be interested in getting the international for ATT. Just not sure what will and won't work
fireguy0306 said:
So does it support 12 and 17?? I'd be interested in getting the international for ATT. Just not sure what will and won't work
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Band 17 is a subband of 12 (12 is the larger scope that includes 17 in it). The S6 920F support band 12 so it should work on AT&T just fine.
Bands 4 and 2 which are also used by AT&T are also supported according to the FCC documents so i assume the international model 920F should work just fine.
I can't be sure the same about other 920X models out there.
Does anyone know the difference between the 920F and the 9200?
Japultra said:
Does anyone know the difference between the 920F and the 9200?
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Samsung I9200 is the Galaxy Mega. Is that what you're referring to?
I realised that there are commonly 2 available international versions, SM-920F (European?) and SM-920I (Rest of the world?). Wondering if anyone has the LTE specifications for the SM-920I version?
Edit (4 April): Found the answer to my own question at the Singapore Samsung website (under Specifications). So LTE Bands 1,2,3,5,7,8,12,17,18,19,26,28. No Band 4 though. I'm guessing that would greatly degrade the LTE experience with AT&T and T-Mobile?
4G+ LTE Cat 6 up to 300Mbps, VoLTE, 4G+ LTE FDD [Band 1 (2100MHz)/ Band 2 (1900MHz)/ Band 3 (1800MHz)/ Band 5 (850MHz)/ Band 7 (2600MHz)/ Band 8 (900MHz)/ Band 12 (700MHz)/ Band 17 (700MHz)/ Band 18 (800MHz)/ Band 19 (800MHz)/ Band 26 (800MHz) Band 28 (700MHz)], 4G+ LTE TDD [Band 40 (2300MHz)]
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Edit (8 April): Interestingly, the Australian Samsung website for the same model (SM-G920I) shows that Band 4 is supported. I'm totally confused now as to whether this particular model supports LTE Band 4.
4G FDD LTE B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B12(700), B17(700), B18(800), B19(800), B26(800), B28(700)
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I find it rather odd that the US-bound Pure Edition doesn't support 1700 MHz for TMOUS, yet the international Style version does.
That being said, it's looking like both versions support all the other bands that TMOUS uses. So unless I'm missing something, that would mean all TMOUS users should be picking up the international version, not the US version.
@Gamesoul Master
T-Mobile in the US use:
GSM - Band 2 (1900 MHz)
3G (HSPA) - Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz)
4G (HSPA+) - Band 2 (1900 MHz), Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz)
4G LTE - Band 2 (1900 MHz), Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz), Band 12 (700MHz)
And the US Pure Edition has the following Bands :
GSM - (Band 2 (1900 MHz)
HSPA+ - 2100Mhz
4G LTE - Band 2, 4 and 12
So it should work fine for you on T-Mobile US network.
Geordie Affy said:
T-Mobile in the US use:
GSM - Band 2 (1900 MHz)
3G (HSPA) - Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz)
4G (HSPA+) - Band 2 (1900 MHz), Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz)
4G LTE - Band 2 (1900 MHz), Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz), Band 12 (700MHz)
And the US Pure Edition has the following Bands :
GSM - (Band 2 (1900 MHz)
HSPA+ - 2100Mhz
4G LTE - Band 2, 4 and 12
So it should work fine for you on T-Mobile US network.
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Except I (like some other people) live in an area where 1700 MHz is in use (no refarmed 1900 MHz here) and the LTE isn't solid yet. So if I get the Pure Edition, I'm going to be stuck jumping between 2G and LTE depending on where I'm standing... lol.
Gamesoul Master said:
Except I (like some other people) live in an area where 1700 MHz is in use (no refarmed 1900 MHz here) and the LTE isn't solid yet. So if I get the Pure Edition, I'm going to be stuck jumping between 2G and LTE depending on where I'm standing... lol.
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Ah right lol.
In T-Mobiles website they only list 1900 MHz which is odd.
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Geordie Affy said:
Ah right lol.
In T-Mobiles website they only list 1900 MHz which is odd.
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Yeah, I imagine for a lot of people it won't be a problem. But until they refarm around here, I'd be stuck on 2G half the time.
But if I can get my hands on the international version instead of the US version when it comes out, I won't have to worry, since it seems to have *all* the T-Mobile bands.
Gamesoul Master said:
Yeah, I imagine for a lot of people it won't be a problem. But until they refarm around here, I'd be stuck on 2G half the time.
But if I can get my hands on the international version instead of the US version when it comes out, I won't have to worry, since it seems to have *all* the T-Mobile bands.
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I wouldn't mind posting you it from here in the UK but the conversion rate will make it expensive for you.
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I wouldn't mind posting you it from here in the UK but the conversion rate will make it expensive for you.
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I appreciate the thought, but you are of course correct. Thinking I may just wait and see if maybe the refarming effort makes it to my area before the phone comes out. Since it's supposed to be mostly done by end of year, and I'm in an area that gets at least a little love from T-Mobile, perhaps it'll time out right for me.
Gamesoul Master said:
I appreciate the thought, but you are of course correct. Thinking I may just wait and see if maybe the refarming effort makes it to my area before the phone comes out. Since it's supposed to be mostly done by end of year, and I'm in an area that gets at least a little love from T-Mobile, perhaps it'll time out right for me.
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[emoji6]
Yeah I won't be getting good LTE signal in my area but hopefully the network I'm with are going to be doing some work on it. Its just a waiting game really lol. It always seems like every area I move to has crap signal haha.
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Hmm...I used the site willmyphonework.net to test out both versions and I found a little difference. The global version supports both 1700 & 1900 MHz on 3G speed. Other than that, both are the same for LTE & 2G and work perfectly. Can anyone help me translate this into English and tell us which is more beneficial?
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Hmm...I used the site willmyphonework.net to test out both versions and I found a little difference. The global version supports both 1700 & 1900 MHz on 3G speed. Other than that, both are the same for LTE & 2G and work perfectly. Can anyone help me translate this into English and tell us which is more beneficial?
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Yeah, that was what I was getting at. Both versions seem identical as far as what T-Mobile needs, except for that 1700 MHz on the international version. Seems odd to me that they'd leave something like that out for the US version.
Does the additional 1700 MHz band mean better coverage for Tmobile in the US, or does Tmobile not use that one?
gonzalez11 said:
Does the additional 1700 MHz band mean better coverage for Tmobile in the US, or does Tmobile not use that one?
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They use 1900 MHz for their refarmed HSPA+ areas, but there's still many areas (like mine) that use 1700 MHz for that.
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They use 1900 MHz for their refarmed HSPA+ areas, but there's still many areas (like mine) that use 1700 MHz for that.
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AFAIK much more of their coverage uses 1700 than 1900.
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AFAIK much more of their coverage uses 1700 than 1900.
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True. 1900 is only as recent as their refarming, whereas 1700 they've been using for quite a while.
If you buy the international rather than the US are you going to be less likely to get tmobile wifi calling and volte with an update?
NCguy said:
If you buy the international rather than the US are you going to be less likely to get tmobile wifi calling and volte with an update?
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we wont be getting tmo wifi calling regardless
hello00 said:
we wont be getting tmo wifi calling regardless
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Wifi calling maybe with marshmallow? But possibly volte?
And wonder if US vs international would matter? I guess that's a lot of unknowns.
What's the point in Motorola making two versions in the first place? If all versions are sold carrier free, the LTE bands should be turned on for each carrier worldwide. Qualcomm modems support any band and frequency so long as the device has the correct firmware to leave them open.
In my opinion, it would probably be best to purchase the Pure (US) Edition to make sure it will work on all carriers in the US. After that I would root and turn on the 1700MHz frequency. Seeing how huge this issue will probably become, I'm sure someone will figure this out and post a guide on the forums. You may be best off waiting to see if this is the case.
Btw, my personal choice in this situation would be to switch carriers to AT&T or even Verizon, for the better coverage. Since Wifi Calling is supported natively when Marshmallow inevitably is released for these devices, there shouldn't be too much of a downside for anyone switching from TMO anymore (so long as carriers don't block out the wifi calling capabilities).
Ganondroid said:
What's the point in Motorola making two versions in the first place? If all versions are sold carrier free, the LTE bands should be turned on for each carrier worldwide. Qualcomm modems support any band and frequency so long as the device has the correct firmware to leave them open.
In my opinion, it would probably be best to purchase the Pure (US) Edition to make sure it will work on all carriers in the US. After that I would root and turn on the 1700MHz frequency. Seeing how huge this issue will probably become, I'm sure someone will figure this out and post a guide on the forums. You may be best off waiting to see if this is the case.
Btw, my personal choice in this situation would be to switch carriers to AT&T or even Verizon, for the better coverage. Since Wifi Calling is supported natively when Marshmallow inevitably is released for these devices, there shouldn't be too much of a downside for anyone switching from TMO anymore (so long as carriers don't block out the wifi calling capabilities).
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True that we will have WiFi calling via Marshmallow. It already works in stock betas that have been tested with other devices. No need for a separate all from T-Mobile.
But, how can 1700 be turned on in the US version, if the device does not have a 1700 radio? Since 1700 is not in the spec of the US version. It may not have a 1700 radio to activate.
All of the frequencies use the same radio. So if a phone is LTE capable, then it has all of the bands available. Lot's of times carriers will only activate the specific bands that are needed for their networks to make it harder to switch companies.
Here is a generalized guide for all qualcomm SoCs. This should work in theory, but again, nobody has been able to test it on the Moto x yet.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...ad-progress-please-leave-im-updating-t2871269
[SIZE=+3]Moto G4 Plus[/SIZE]
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With laser focus and phase detect auto-focus (PDAF), get great photos in any light.
TurboPower™ charging
Get up to 6 hours of power in 15 minutes.
Fingerprint reader
Instantly unlock your phone with your fingerprint in under 750 milliseconds.
5MP front camera
Wide-angle lens fits everyone into group shots.
13.97cm (5.5") Full HD display
Experience sharp and lifelike photos and videos, with the strength of Corning Gorilla Glass.
Free storage with Google Photos
Stay automatically backed up and organized, and get two years of storage at original quality.
Dual 4G SIM
You can have two calling plans or phone numbers in one phone.
Specifications:
Operating System
Android™ 6.0.1, Marshmallow
System Architecture/Processor
Motorola Mobile Computing System, including an up to 1.5 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon™ 617 octa-core processor with 550 MHz Adreno 405 GPU
Memory (RAM)
2 GB / 3 GB
Storage (ROM)
16 GB / 32 GB internal, up to 128 GB microSD Card support
Dimensions
Height: 153 mm
Width: 76.6 mm
Depth: 7.9 mm to 9.8 mm
Weight
155g
Display
13.97cm (5.5"") 1080p Full HD (1920 x 1080) 401 ppi
Battery
All-day battery (3000 mAh)
TurboPower™ for up to 6 hours of power in 15 minutes of charging
Water Protection
Water repellent nano-coating
Networks
4G LTE (Cat 6)
UMTS / HSPA+
GSM / EDGE
Bands (by model)
Moto G Plus - XT1644
GSM / GPRS / EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS / HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz)
4G LTE (B1, 3, 5, 8, 40)
Band coverage varies by model, country, and carrier.
SIM Card
Micro-SIM, nano-SIM with included adaptor (available in select regions)
Dual-SIM available in select regions
Rear Camera
16 MP
Laser auto-focus
Phase detect auto-focus (PDAF)
ƒ/2.0 aperture
Color balancing dual LED flash
Professional Mode
Quick Capture
Best Shot
Tap (anywhere) to capture
4X digital zoom
Burst mode
Auto HDR
Panorama
Drag to focus & exposure
Video Stabilization
1080p HD video (30 fps)
Slow Motion video
Front Camera
5 MP
ƒ/2.2 aperture
Wide-Angle lens
Display flash
Google Photos
Two years of storage at original quality
Connectivity
Micro USB, 3.5 mm headset jack
Bluetooth Technology
Bluetooth version 4.1 LE
Wi-Fi
802.11 a/b/g/n (2.4 GHz + 5 GHz)
Speakers/Microphones
Front-ported loud speaker
2-Mics
Video Capture
1080p (30 fps)
Location Services
A-GPS
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Fingerprint reader
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Gonna watch this thread for updates.
We might need to unlock bootloader first
srgudhka said:
Gonna watch this thread for updates.
We might need to unlock bootloader first
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Bootloader unlock is same as al other G's, get code from Motorola and unlock. For me root and twrp are the 2 starters. I have no doubt development will soon follow. (mainly as I'll give it a shot when twrp and root are available)
List of Moto G4 Plus variants and their respective bands. I will try to update this list as more information becomes available:
Moto G4 Plus
XT1640: GSM 850/900/1800/1900 + HSPA 850/900/1900/2100 + LTE 3/5/7/28
XT1641: GSM 850/900/1800/1900 + HSPA 850/900/1700(AWS)/1900/2100 + LTE 2/3/4/5/7/12/17/28
XT1642: GSM 850/900/1800/1900 + HSPA 850/900/1900/2100 + LTE 1/3/5/7/8/19/20/28/40
XT1643: GSM 850/900/1800/1900 + HSPA 850/900/2100 + LTE 1/3/5/8/40
XT1644: CDMA 0/1/10 + GSM 850/900/1800/1900 + HSPA 850/900/1700(AWS)/1900/2100 + LTE 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/13/17/25/26/41
just ordered this phone, hope this phone doesn't have any heating issue
iloveindia said:
just ordered this phone, hope this phone doesn't have any heating issue
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After 2 days of rigorous use, i can confirm of no heating issues as of now!!
There is too much of heating issues on moto g4 plus When camera used continously. Will there be any fix for it?
Kernel sources released https://github.com/MotorolaMobilityLLC/kernel-msm/releases/tag/MMI-MPJ24.139
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Kernel sources released https://github.com/MotorolaMobilityLLC/kernel-msm/releases/tag/MMI-MPJ24.139
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Sigh, I ordered it here in germany, got the XT1642 model. Does this mean I won't be able to take it back to the US and use it with Verison? (CDMA)
Is there anyway to patch the modem to allow for CDMA, or do certain models have different HW
Op can you correct your info as there is a 64gb with 4gb version
morgenman42 said:
Sigh, I ordered it here in germany, got the XT1642 model. Does this mean I won't be able to take it back to the US and use it with Verison? (CDMA)
Is there anyway to patch the modem to allow for CDMA, or do certain models have different HW
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You could probably use something like QPST to turn on the processor's CDMA support, but the GSM-only models probably lack the necessary antenna setups for CDMA reception.
Plus, I doubt the XT1642 would be on Verizon's activation whitelist.
xtermmin said:
You could probably use something like QPST to turn on the processor's CDMA support, but the GSM-only models probably lack the necessary antenna setups for CDMA reception.
Plus, I doubt the XT1642 would be on Verizon's activation whitelist.
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Same here, just bought Indian version XT1643, can't connect to French LTE bands http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/help/change-baseband-t3403822/page1
How i can do that with QPST, or better, with a Linux/Unix tool ???
barikad said:
Same here, just bought Indian version XT1643, can't connect to French LTE bands http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/help/change-baseband-t3403822/page1
How i can do that with QPST, or better, with a Linux/Unix tool ???
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Yeah, can elaborate?
Is it possible to change Bands (LTE & 5G) on SM-N9860 For Rogers Wireless in Canada?
I had a thought:
Currently, the Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra 5G Dual Sim (SM-N9860, Snapdragon) 12GB Ram 512GB has the following LTE & 5G Bands:
4G FDD-LTE:
B1(2100),B2(1900),B3(1800),B4(AWS),B5(850),B7(2600),B8(900),B12(700),B13(700), B18(800),B19(800),B20(800),B25(1900),B26(850),B28(700)
4G TDD-LTE:
B34(2010),B38(2600),B39(1900),B40(2300),B41(2500)
5G Sub-6 FDD:
N1(2100) / 5G Sub-6 TDD: N78(3500),N79(4500)
Now, I am with Rogers, which requires the following bands:
LTE Bands:
700 MHz Lower A/B/C: 12/17/13
850 MHz CLR: 5
1700/2100 MHz AWS: 4
2600 MHz IMT-E: 7
1900 MHz PCS: 2
While SM-N9860 supports all but one - Band 17 LTE bands - the phone should work almost flawlessly with Rogers in terms of LTE. However, when it comes to 5G, it is a complete different story.
5G Bands:
2600 MHz IMT-E: n38
600 MHz DD n71
The Canadian (similar to the US) variant of Note 20 Ultra 5G supports the following band:
LTE Bands:
B1, B2, B3, B4, B5, B7, B8, B12, B13, B17, B18, B19, B20, B25, B29, B30, B66, B71
5G Bands:
n41, n66, n71
Questions:
1. Since both are based on the Qualcomm SM8250 Snapdragon 865+, is there a way to change the LTE & 5G bands?
2. Is it hard-coded into the firmware of the 5G modem that is incorporated with the Snapdragon 865+, which makes it impossible?
3. Does that fact that SM-N9860 has a unlocked bootloader and it is rootable, would this help change the bands or matters of the bootloader / root does not have anything to do with the frequencies / bands?
4. If the matters pertaining to unlocked bootloader/rootable , should this question be asked in the thread that Dr. Ketan discusses, with regards to the rooting process?
5. Only reason that I ask for all this is: recalling from memory from earlier days of Note(s) 1 thru 4 - rooting, installing custom rom (thru odin), etc. - I remember coming across a "modem" specific file that gets flashed by odin. Is that still true these days with the newer Note models or it is different?
6. I understand that Qualcomm supplies the specific modem chipset, with regards to 5G - would any of their development tools supplied by Qualcomm can help with changing the bands?
Thanks, just wanted to know.
Thanks.
It seems no one has replied.
Is it really that hard to change the LTE & 5G bands on the SM-N9860 model, given that it uses the Qualcomm SM8250 Snapdragon 865+ chipset (which I am presuming it has the 5G embedded modem)?
karthigan said:
It seems no one has replied.
Is it really that hard to change the LTE & 5G bands on the SM-N9860 model, given that it uses the Qualcomm SM8250 Snapdragon 865+ chipset (which I am presuming it has the 5G embedded modem)?
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5g wouldn't work on N9860 in US/Canada. But some users reported its working in UK.
By the way can you please tell me do you have n9860 hong kong variant? And which CSC it has?
JimzFreebies said:
5g wouldn't work on N9860 in US/Canada. But some users reported its working in UK.
By the way can you please tell me do you have n9860 hong kong variant? And which CSC it has?
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Hi, sorry for the delay.
How do you find out the CSC that is installed on this phone?
My baseband version indicates: N9860ZCU1ATH2 - does that help?
karthigan said:
Hi, sorry for the delay.
How do you find out the CSC that is installed on this phone?
My baseband version indicates: N9860ZCU1ATH2 - does that help?
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See screenshot(not mine). You will have all 4 TGY or BRI under Service Provider SW ver.
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any news?
Years ago we used to be able to play around with enabling bands using something called QPST ( i think, its been awhile) but i have no idea if it will work on new devices.
Id suggest tailoring your search to that and see what state its in.
Use Samsung band selection to change bands
It's an app
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Use Samsung band selection to change bands
It's an app
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tried. it says "change unsuccessful"
and2cs said:
tried. it says "change unsuccessful"
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You have to use the menu to the side and select band selection
Instructions are on the first page of the app
GDHAMTON7 said:
Use Samsung band selection to change bands
It's an app
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so your saying samsung phones have more bands then it says on the box? and this will allow me to enable them
leo5111 said:
so your saying samsung phones have more bands then it says on the box? and this will allow me to enable them
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Kinda but depending on what carrier you on will determine what bands will work for you.
will be metro prepaid tmobile
JimzFreebies said:
See screenshot(not mine). You will have all 4 TGY or BRI under Service Provider SW ver. View attachment 5099599
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For me it lists TGY/TGY,TGY/TGY
karthigan said:
For me it lists TGY/TGY,TGY/TGY
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Yes because you have N9860 Hong Kong variant.
These are the bands available for sm_n986u1
You pick the lte bands that you want to use... Att/tmoble may have to check the gsm bands for calls.
GDHAMTON7 said:
These are the bands available for sm_n986u1
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which one is for 5G?
and2cs said:
which one is for 5G?
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Depends on carrier... But I want to say it's the n261 and 260 and anything above 28... I could be wrong... I'm not in a 5g area... But I checked the vZw bands... Idk for other carriers
I think Rogers, Telus and Bell are all using band 66 for their 5G.