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[Q] Charging battery for the first time.

Hi guys.
I am about to get a new One plus.
How do you suggest to charge it for the first time?
Thank you!

Maya2015 said:
Hi guys.
I am about to get a new One plus.
How do you suggest to charge it for the first time?
Thank you!
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Its always best to let it charge to 100% and immediately unplug it. If it has a chip to prevent overcharging, great. If not, this will protect battery life. My friend to fix his phones said that the worst thing you can do for a living in my own battery is to let it overcharge, which is letting it charge at 100% for an extended period of time. it's also best to let it drain as much as possible and recharged to 100 percent, but most importantly not to let it over charge at 100% for a long time.
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NCzerniak83 said:
Its always best to let it charge to 100% and immediately unplug it. If it has a chip to prevent overcharging, great. If not, this will protect battery life. My friend to fix his phones said that the worst thing you can do for a living in my own battery is to let it overcharge, which is letting it charge at 100% for an extended period of time. it's also best to let it drain as much as possible and recharged to 100 percent, but most importantly not to let it over charge at 100% for a long time.
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That isn't completely true. You're right when you say you shouldn't hold it at 100% for long, because that reduces the long term life of the battery. But discharging it as much as possible before charging again is a bad idea. It's best to keep the battery above 25% and actually when charging it's best to disconnect before it reaches full capacity.
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timmaaa said:
That isn't completely true. You're right when you say you shouldn't hold it at 100% for long, because that reduces the long term life of the battery. But discharging it as much as possible before charging again is a bad idea. It's best to keep the battery above 25% and actually when charging it's best to disconnect before it reaches full capacity.
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I stand corrected. [emoji5]
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There are some great articles with some much more detailed information, better than I could ever articulate.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/do_and_dont_battery_table
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Maya2015 said:
Hi guys.
I am about to get a new One plus.
How do you suggest to charge it for the first time?
Thank you!
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I usually never charge my battery to 100%. i always charge maximum of 90-95 and disconnect plug.Before recharging, i make sure it has discharged upto 30- 40%.However, sometimes atleast after a week i completely drain the battery to 0 and let it charge 100 percent.This is just a practice i read on a website but i dont see anything on 4 phones in 2 years. namely Htc explorer, Samsung galaxy grand, xperia L and now samsung grand prime. based on my experience to prolong battery life make sure you are in a cool enviorment.

Hi
So for the first charge, do you recommend to charge it first up to 100% before using and unplug?
Thanks.

Maya2015 said:
Hi
So for the first charge, do you recommend to charge it first up to 100% before using and unplug?
Thanks.
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That's perfectly fine. Not necessary, but fine.
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Thanks.
And afterwards, do you recommend to charge it up to 100% or as some of the guys says here, up to 90%?
Thanks!

Maya2015 said:
Thanks.
And afterwards, do you recommend to charge it up to 100% or as some of the guys says here, up to 90%?
Thanks!
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Take a look at the two articles I gave links for just above.
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Is "quick/fast" charge working for anyone?

I recently purchased an S7 (no edge) and it mentioned it had a quick/fast charge feature.. great! Faster charging! However, I noticed that with actual use (with screen off I might add) it doesn't really charges that quickly over the normal charge. Maybe a few minutes less, but not much of a difference..
Anyone else having this issue? Using the global version, no root/no ROM (for now).

Of course it works, are you using the oem charger and cable?

Also make sure Fast Charging is enabled under Settings - Battery
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peachpuff said:
Of course it works, are you using the oem charger and cable?
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Yes, using the stock charger that came with the device. Thus far, returned the S7 when I first received it due to the same 'fast/quick charging' not working. So, this is the second S7 device I'm having.
Devhux said:
Also make sure Fast Charging is enabled under Settings - Battery
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Fast Charging is enabled by default, so ya.. that's not the problem either.

Fast charging means tha from 0 to 60 % it charges fast (30 minutes) and after 60% it charges with normal speed.
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olafsand said:
Fast charging means tha from 0 to 60 % it charges fast (30 minutes) and after 60% it charges with normal speed.
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are you sure about this information man ?

it works but you have to have it enabled in settings/battery.
Recently I noticed that my fast charger wasn't doing it's job as the charge rate was 'standard'. So I checked with old charger from Note 4 and it's cable, it worked wihtout issues as 'fast charge'. I ended up finding out that the problem was the cable I was using, it got damaged because of use and it's not helping the phone to detect the fast charger. So, just in case, change your cable and check again.
Regards,

Derpenson said:
are you sure about this information man ?
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That's generally how it works, yes
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Skyrider said:
I recently purchased an S7 (no edge) and it mentioned it had a quick/fast charge feature.. great! Faster charging! However, I noticed that with actual use (with screen off I might add) it doesn't really charges that quickly over the normal charge. Maybe a few minutes less, but not much of a difference..
Anyone else having this issue? Using the global version, no root/no ROM (for now).
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This is a stupid question, but did you plug in the cable correctly into the charger? Mine was like half-assed into it the first time and then quick charge doesn't work. Make sure you lube it up nice and wet and slide it in as deep as possible.

i bought one couple of days ago,and neither me, i dont see any difference between fast and normal charging

Fast charging

Is fast charging on the S7 ok for the battery or it damages it by time ? I mean i want my phone to hold on for at least 3 years.
Should i disable this option to increase the total battery health ?

With or without fast charging...batterys dont last 3 years.
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olafsand said:
With or without fast charging...batterys dont last 3 years.
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Umm yes they do... They last way longer than that actually. They just won't have the capability to hold the full charge amount (in mAh) anymore.

InsanePostman said:
Umm yes they do... They last way longer than that actually. They just won't have the capability to hold the full charge amount (in mAh) anymore.
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It may not have dawned on you yet but that battery does not "hold the full charge amount (in mAh) anymore" is in most users mind the very definition of "my f****** battery is gone"!
With the all the pressure on the manufacturers to make the batteries small and the urge to build faster units the usable battery lifespan takes a hit. Even a 20% shorter battery charge time feels frustrating when heavy users may already struggle to make it last a full day with some phones.
So, "way longer than that" (3 years)…? I don’t think so!

So as a conclusion should I DISABLE FAST CHARGING OR NOT?

RootNightmareX said:
So as a conclusion should I DISABLE FAST CHARGING OR NOT?
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I have never heard anyone being able to prove fast charging causing shortened battery life. There are a lot of guessing around, but the only difference I have seen is that the phone gets slightly warmer to the touch both after fast charging with cable and wireless. Not so hot so that I would suspect damage. After all, since the charging ends a lot faster the total amount of heat surely isn't higher than that with slow charging. Using the phone will sometimes make it warmer than this.
One could perhaps suspect a higher risk for fire with fast charging, but there is no proof for that either.
The choice is yours!

RootNightmareX said:
So as a conclusion should I DISABLE FAST CHARGING OR NOT?
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If you want battery to last longer you do not need to disable anything, instead follow these steps
1. Charge battery to 80 - 85% and not 100%. Stop leaving it overnight.
2. Don't let it fall to 0%, keep it between 20 - 80% charge.
3. Do use phone while charging. You do not want battery heating up.
4. Top up the battery in between your day but keep it within the range above.
5. Keep phone away from to much subglight or warm temperatures. Heat is the biggest enemy of Li-on batteries.
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takerhbk said:
If you want battery to last longer you do not need to disable anything, instead follow these steps
1. Charge battery to 80 - 85% and not 100%. Stop leaving it overnight.
2. Don't let it fall to 0%, keep it between 20 - 80% charge.
3. Do use phone while charging. You do not want battery heating up.
4. Top up the battery in between your day but keep it within the range above.
5. Keep phone away from to much subglight or warm temperatures. Heat is the biggest enemy of Li-on batteries.
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This might have been true many years ago for on old generation of batteries and phones, not for the batteries and smart phones of today. You cannot damage the battery by over charge, there is automatic over charge protection.
You equally cannot do harm to the battery by using it all the way down. There is protection against this also. The system will sense when it is approaching the level that will do any damage at all to the battery and shut down.
No need to worry, just use your phone. There is nothing you can do to make the battery better or worse!

gerhard_wa said:
This might have been true many years ago for on old generation of batteries and phones, not for the batteries and smart phones of today. You cannot damage the battery by over charge, there is automatic over charge protection.
You equally cannot do harm to the battery by using it all the way down. There is protection against this also. The system will sense when it is approaching the level that will do any damage at all to the battery and shut down.
No need to worry, just use your phone. There is nothing you can do to make the battery better or worse!
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So i can enable fast charge and full charge/discharge the phone without any risk?

gerhard_wa said:
This might have been true many years ago for on old generation of batteries and phones, not for the batteries and smart phones of today. You cannot damage the battery by over charge, there is automatic over charge protection.
You equally cannot do harm to the battery by using it all the way down. There is protection against this also. The system will sense when it is approaching the level that will do any damage at all to the battery and shut down.
No need to worry, just use your phone. There is nothing you can do to make the battery better or worse!
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No you are getting it wrong. Don't leave overnight not because it over charges but the fact that you don't want to go upto 100%. Plus everytime you go to 0 battery loses it one cycle. Whatever I say is based on Google research and latest research so it still holds true. For battery longevity never take it to extreme and avoid heating it.
RootNightmareX said:
So i can enable fast charge and full charge/discharge the phone without any risk?
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You should Google or see YouTube videos. What I advise you is based on that research. Almost 99% people advise what I said. Rest is upto you.
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takerhbk said:
No you are getting it wrong. Don't leave overnight not because it over charges but the fact that you don't want to go upto 100%. Plus everytime you go to 0 battery loses it one cycle. Whatever I say is based on Google research and latest research so it still holds true. For battery longevity never take it to extreme and avoid heating it.
You should Google or see YouTube videos. What I advise you is based on that research. Almost 99% people advise what I said. Rest is upto you.
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So the most recommanded tips are: stay at 25-75% battery and try to not heat battery and disable fast charge?

RootNightmareX said:
So the most recommanded tips are: stay at 25-75% battery and try to not heat battery and disable fast charge?
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Disable fast charging if it heats up your battery too much. Otherwise no need.
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gerhard_wa said:
It may not have dawned on you yet but that battery does not "hold the full charge amount (in mAh) anymore" is in most users mind the very definition of "my f****** battery is gone"!
With the all the pressure on the manufacturers to make the batteries small and the urge to build faster units the usable battery lifespan takes a hit. Even a 20% shorter battery charge time feels frustrating when heavy users may already struggle to make it last a full day with some phones.
So, "way longer than that" (3 years)…? I don’t think so!
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That is a generalization based upon nothing but your personal opinion. All I said is that batteries absolutely last longer than 3 years.

Try this app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.digibites.accubattery&hl=pt_PT
It gives information about charge/discharge and also battery health based on your use.

Slow battery charging

So, my problem is that remaining 10% battery is charging very slow. Is it normal? When charging first 90% Ampere says around 2000mA and it's very quick. After 90% it's slowly decreasing, 92% now and 230 mA, couple days ago it was 80 mA when 96%.

Asmod96 said:
So, my problem is that remaining 10% battery is charging very slow. Is it normal? When charging first 90% Ampere says around 2000mA and it's very quick. After 90% it's slowly decreasing, 92% now and 230 mA, couple days ago it was 80 mA when 96%.
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I believe it's a safety feature to keep the battery healthy

pijes said:
I believe it's a safety feature to keep the battery healthy
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Yes, for the last 10% or so the phone trickle charges which is basically like putting on the brakes to make sure the battery gets to 100% as efficiently as possible.

are you on custom ROM?

It is normal with any phone, I don't know why but, it is the case with any phone

This page might help u understand why it slows down:
https://goo.gl/ZLnygR
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ayush rao said:
This page might help u understand why it slows down:
https://goo.gl/ZLnygR
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Ahh, I didn't think it would be due to chemical reactions.
Sweet

venugopalu007 said:
are you on custom ROM?
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Nope, stock ROM
ayush rao said:
This page might help u understand why it slows down:
https://goo.gl/ZLnygR
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Oh, so it's normal... thanks!

Asmod96 said:
Oh, so it's normal... thanks!
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Yep, it is normal

Fast charging while screen is on?

Coming from OnePlus 7 pro , i really miss the feature to charge really fast even while the screen is on,
Is there any way to force the 25w quick charge to work even while using the device and the screen is on?
Thanks in advance

i9apps said:
Coming from OnePlus 7 pro , i really miss the feature to charge really fast even while the screen is on,
Is there any way to force the 25w quick charge to work even while using the device and the screen is on?
Thanks in advance
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Mine still says "super fast charging" while in use.
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themisterwilson said:
Mine still says "super fast charging" while in use.
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It's says, but it's not really charging 25w compare to when screen is off

i9apps said:
It's says, but it's not really charging 25w compare to when screen is off
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Oh hell idk, I'm personally not really worried about the difference in time. I can leave my phone alone for half an hour if I really need to anyway. Let it charge in peace.
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It does charge at maximum speed. It's just that that the screen takes a lot of power, slowing the charging of the actual battery because you're using the phone at the same time. It can't charge as fast when cpu and the screen are working can it now?
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i9apps said:
Coming from OnePlus 7 pro , i really miss the feature to charge really fast even while the screen is on,
Is there any way to force the 25w quick charge to work even while using the device and the screen is on?
Thanks in advance
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Personally I'll avoid fast charging as much as possible, as heat will build up when you fast charge & heat is the enemy of any lithium based battery.
So I slow charge it over night...and only (super) fast charge it when I'm in a hurry...[emoji16]
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