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Is greenify acting up again?

I was wondering if anyone else was having issues with greenify lately? I have noticed that apps that are supposed to be hibernating are not hibernating or waking back up on their own.
For example, I will greenify all apps with the hibernate widget button (not to mention that many apps that i'm trying to hibernate are already added to the hibernate list in hibernate to begin with). the widget will pop up and say XXX apps have been hibernated. then i press the widget again and it says nothing to be hibernated good, I put the device to sleep and leave it alone.
several min later I wake it back up, press the hibernate button again and the same apps that I hibernated just a few min prior are now saying they are hibernating again.
Since i have not woke the device or used it since my last hibernation, why are those apps back awake again?
just weird and not working like its supposed to.
Im trying to nail down this battery drain issue after switching to tmobile and this is something unrelated that I noticed.
many thanks in advance for any help or advice.

nextelbuddy said:
I was wondering if anyone else was having issues with greenify lately? I have noticed that apps that are supposed to be hibernating are not hibernating or waking back up on their own.
For example, I will greenify all apps with the hibernate widget button (not to mention that many apps that i'm trying to hibernate are already added to the hibernate list in hibernate to begin with). the widget will pop up and say XXX apps have been hibernated. then i press the widget again and it says nothing to be hibernated good, I put the device to sleep and leave it alone.
several min later I wake it back up, press the hibernate button again and the same apps that I hibernated just a few min prior are now saying they are hibernating again.
Since i have not woke the device or used it since my last hibernation, why are those apps back awake again?
just weird and not working like its supposed to.
Im trying to nail down this battery drain issue after switching to tmobile and this is something unrelated that I noticed.
many thanks in advance for any help or advice.
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thats just how android works. certain conditiins will call up apps(like signal change, location change, etc). greenify cant stop those. theres an app called autostarts where you can disable those conditions where certain apps are called upon.

simms22 said:
thats just how android works. certain conditiins will call up apps(like signal change, location change, etc). greenify cant stop those. theres an app called autostarts where you can disable those conditions where certain apps are called upon.
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I'd almost agree with you except for the fact that when you greenfy apps like Facebook, and in facebook you have it set to no notifications, no chat etc nothing.. and you greenify it.. it should stay OFF until you open it again especially if i have not used the phone and its idle and no apps have been opened to call it. thats the whole point of greenify... hibernate apps until YOU open or call them. i wouldn't use it if it was just to "snooze" apps until they wake up when ever they want. thats just plain useless and it never happened before with my device. I loved greenify because apps remained OFF until i opened them.

You're not alone, i think it happens to everyone. I get this with shazam and some other apps, they just find a way to "wake up" i guess.
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nextelbuddy said:
I'd almost agree with you except for the fact that when you greenfy apps like Facebook, and in facebook you have it set to no notifications, no chat etc nothing.. and you greenify it.. it should stay OFF until you open it again especially if i have not used the phone and its idle and no apps have been opened to call it. thats the whole point of greenify... hibernate apps until YOU open or call them. i wouldn't use it if it was just to "snooze" apps until they wake up when ever they want. thats just plain useless and it never happened before with my device. I loved greenify because apps remained OFF until i opened them.
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for example, here are just some of the conditions apps get called up, no matter what you have set in settings. and an example of some apps that i have installed that get called up when connectivity changes. notice i disabled a lot..
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There are many causes that wake an app even we disabled autostart, disable based on event (network change, app install/uninstall, phone call, sms, time, location, triggred from another app, etc), greenify etc. It always has a "hidden" wakeup call. Donate version of greenify does has 'reveal hidden sync' feature. So it will better handles hibernation.
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Ten min cutoff app.

Servicely for your apps and services

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Remember that time when your device lost 50% of battery life during the night because a gazillion services from careless apps kept keeping your device awake and you have no way to disable them?
Or when Facebook kept waking up your phone for no reason and you find no way to fix it other than uninstalling it?
Servicely to the rescue!
First of all make sure you're ROOTED (it won't work otherwise). You'll be able to select which apps will be put to sleep when the display goes off. Just like magic!
You can also disable/enable permanently any service on your device. It's useful if you have services that tend to auto-restart and keep your device awake, or if you have games sending you never-ending notifications.
This app is somewhat powerful so act responsibly when using it. I'm more than happy to help if you contact me
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The apk in the Play Store is free with ads, but I've disabled the ads for the apk below. You can still purchase the key from inside the app which helps me keep producing stuff for you, but you don't have to do so.
You can choose between two "sleep" modes. The soft mode I assume it's probably similar to what Greenify does. The hard mode completely disables the apps you've choosed during screen off, and re-enabled during screen on. This mode removes any shortcuts or widgets from those disabled apps, but this is the most secure way to guarantee those apps won't wake up or do something crazy. That said, you'll be fine with the soft mode.
Play Store download: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.franco.servicely
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I take no responsibility for any fault caused by any procedures of the app. No warranties of any kind are given.

Looks promising. Might replace greenify this little gem, thank you??

Enabled pro and start on boot but after closing the app an open it again, it shows this.

Should greenify be disabled/uninstlled before using servicely??

Really like this app! This is like the perfect version of greenify. And probably with more features to come. I was just wondering, is it save to add google play services to list? Or wil I loose allot of functionality with the apps that rely on google play services?

Will this also stop notifications from the app when you have it disabled? Like fb, instagram, xda and twitter?

@franciscofranco
Another possible improvement for your new app:
- With the pro Version there is the option to start the service automatically with the boot. If you boot the device there is no information like "set on boot service has been..." Dont know if you need this message on the boot like in FKU for you new app, but maybe you could make it as an option
and: if you close the app from the task manager, you see the normal action: app is restarting. After the restart the settings/killing apps applies again?
i instantly bought the pro version, before even using it
And if you add a new app to the service, it will be killed after 60 secs? or is first a reboot needed?
And if you kill an app like google keep, can the changes still be synced?
Sorry for the large amount of quetions, i´ve never used apps like this

wow... really like this... thanks franco
just a request for someone who knows... we can get a list with safe services to kill?

eluspo said:
Will this also stop notifications from the app when you have it disabled? Like fb, instagram, xda and twitter?
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Yeah... does this have the background sync feature which I believe Greenify has??

Gonna try this for a while and replace greenify if it's better
Thanks

So if a service is idle, let's kill it every minute. The service restarts - which would come with a CPU/memory expense greater than if it had remained idle - and repeat this every minute?
This doesn't seem like an informed decision. It could just be a checkbox in an application's settings that would alleviate the service from repeating.
I don't see why you don't educate people on looking at application's checkboxes.

@franciscofranco I'm a fan of your work and this app looks beautiful. However, I have a pretty stupid question. How is this different from a task killer and automated killing? I thought those were bad, but is this different?

Turned it off for Google play music, google keyboard, Google play services, lmt. I ran into issues with app fc here.

deadzombieseverywhere said:
Turned it off for Google play music, google keyboard, Google play services, lmt. I ran into issues with app fc here.
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turned it on for google play services and no issues so far.
Yeah... does this have the background sync feature which I believe Greenify has??
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no if an app is selected, it has nor background sync - tested it with telegram (btw with greenify donation it doesn´t work too...)
will test Servicely for a while and report back. If it does a well job, then goodbye Greenify

This app keeps closing apps that I'm using. I thought it only closes if the app is in the background? For example, I'm watching a YouTube video and it just closes.

Umm, this is essentially a task killer....

I don't understand the difference from a task killer. Task killers drain more battery. If it kills a service, it autorestarts, right? Or it is like greenify, keeps the service from starting?
I've tried this with whatsapp and didn't work. I know that is not suppose to kill services in the background, but what does it is suppose to kill? If it is not in the foreground, it is in the background... For an intense, having facebook installed, there is always a background service, this will never kill it, right?
It would be great if if would work better thank greenify, and stopping services from getting started.

Great work Franco! Testing now

I have Greenify, not sure if I'll use this... but purchased paid pro version to support Franco and his awesome Kernel (and other dev projects).

euge.lee.nebby said:
I have Greenify, not sure if I'll use this... but purchased paid pro version to support Franco and his awesome Kernel (and other dev projects).
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Same here.....
Franco deserve as developer and person... Thx for all

[APP][BATTERY SAVER][ROOT] AndroEnergy - Battery Saver !

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.emre.androenergyv2
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!!!!!! FORGOT ABOUT ALL BATTERY SAVER APPS!!!!!!!!!
>>>Why AndroEnergy ?<<<
✓ Material design.
✓ It creates a background service and it sends sleep command to CPU cores.
✓ Kills some memory monster apps.
✓ Advanced RAM managemenet.
✓ Low size. (Nearly 4 MB)
✓ Elegant and Advanced interface.
✓ It gives warning when battery overheated for safety.
✓ It is compatible with Android arch.
✓ It can automatically turn off Wi-Fi and Bluetooth. (if you don't connect a device or network)
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Cpu optimization root required.

UPDATED v2.2.3
------------Changelog--------------
-Some bugfixes.
-Improved CPU and RAM Algorithm.
-New icon.
-Added "donate" button to menu.
-CPU Core Algorithm changed.
HAPPY NEW YEARS !!

im always interested in new battery savers but I have some problems..
First killing an app, destroys processes which we dont want as we want to keep ram flowing so we have less battery consumption upon process startup
I recommend you to use only task killers on android 4.0.2 or below or any device that has ram 1gb or lower(you can put it on description)
And for LP and up its better to hibernate apps than killing it due to doze and art changes

phantom146 said:
im always interested in new battery savers but I have some problems..
First killing an app, destroys processes which we dont want as we want to keep ram flowing so we have less battery consumption upon process startup
I recommend you to use only task killers on android 4.0.2 or below or any device that has ram 1gb or lower(you can put it on description)
And for LP and up its better to hibernate apps than killing it due to doze and art changes
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Okay, i will change RAM algorithm.

Is this programm opensource? Can we find the code?

Apollo Hartigan said:
Is this programm opensource? Can we find the code?
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Yes but i commited it 1 month ago. (very old version). Repository: https://github.com/emreharbutoglu/AndroEnergy/tree/master (i want a star for repo )
I won't release new versions source code.

Battery Saving Algorithm
phantom146 said:
im always interested in new battery savers but I have some problems..
First killing an app, destroys processes which we dont want as we want to keep ram flowing so we have less battery consumption upon process startup
I recommend you to use only task killers on android 4.0.2 or below or any device that has ram 1gb or lower(you can put it on description)
And for LP and up its better to hibernate apps than killing it due to doze and art changes
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You are right but it kills activites for clean RAM. i will change the algorithm. it will kill all acitvies at lock screen. Activities spend very CPU power (Facebook app etc.). I can't hibernate apps on a unrooted/stock device so i am killing acitivities for more energy. I recommend don't open powersave mode if you doing a task on your phone. If your phone rooted, it closes some CPU cores and changes governor values (up_threshold etc.) for minimum performance (it decreases CPU Frequence) and maximum battery saving.

Poorly written apps spend battery but not all apps.. Facebook and messenger while on bg even though the app itself was closed is due to its wait time for syncing messages.. Though written poorly its essential for everyone.. Might as well just lessen the alarm_manager which sync everything to save battery life or limit the gcm_reconnect alarm itself to keep the bg processes for apps with gcm at bay.
Overall, no task killers.. You will only use task killers if you want to go nuclear and you will be leaving your phone about 12 hrs a day in idle.. But if your a regular user.. Its a big NO

phantom146 said:
Poorly written apps spend battery but not all apps.. Facebook and messenger while on bg even though the app itself was closed is due to its wait time for syncing messages.. Though written poorly its essential for everyone.. Might as well just lessen the alarm_manager which sync everything to save battery life or limit the gcm_reconnect alarm itself to keep the bg processes for apps with gcm at bay.
Overall, no task killers.. You will only use task killers if you want to go nuclear and you will be leaving your phone about 12 hrs a day in idle.. But if your a regular user.. Its a big NO
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I changed a little part of the algorithm. It will hibernate chrome , facebook , messenger and whatsapp. (nearly greenify's feature.) It turns off sync in the last version for battery and data saving. I minimized app killing because app killing sometimes helpful for CPU proccess saving.

If you want help me. We can develop a new battery saving algorithm.

Updated v2.2.6
-CPU Algorithm stabilized.
-RAM Algorithm improved. (Very good than older versions)
-PowerSave mode improved. (Only 3 MB on background)
-Some bugfixes.

Bug: Runs very slow on Touchwiz.
(I will fix it next version)

Updated
New version (v2.4.2)
-Added smart mobile data saving.
-Fixes and improvements for stability.
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What is SMDS ?
Q: WHAT IS SMART MOBILE DATA SAVING ?
A: SMDS (Smart Mobile Data Saving) is designed for reducing mobile data usage and battery usage. If you are using mobile data, AndroEnergy tracks the screen status (is locked or unlocked) and changes mobile data status (enable or disable). If your screen lock is locked, AndroEnergy turns mobile data off, or your screen is unlocked AndroEnergy turns mobile data on. You can open this feature in app.

phantom146 said:
im always interested in new battery savers but I have some problems..
First killing an app, destroys processes which we dont want as we want to keep ram flowing so we have less battery consumption upon process startup
I recommend you to use only task killers on android 4.0.2 or below or any device that has ram 1gb or lower(you can put it on description)
And for LP and up its better to hibernate apps than killing it due to doze and art changes
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i changed algorithm completely at latest version

System ui memory leak

Do any of you facing an issue of system ui taking a lot of memory? It happens with me daily and only way to a temporary fix is reboot.

mujeeb999 said:
Do any of you facing an issue of system ui taking a lot of memory? It happens with me daily and only way to a temporary fix is reboot.
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What device? What ROM? What mods? What's running in the background? What makes you think it's specifically a memory leak, instead of something else like a runaway process?
Without details, we cannot help you.

Moto turbo xt1225, stock marshmallow with December security patch. Everything stock, no mods or root. I think it's a memory leak because system ui takes as much as 400-500 mb in couple of days after rebooting.

mujeeb999 said:
Do any of you facing an issue of system ui taking a lot of memory? It happens with me daily and only way to a temporary fix is reboot.
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mujeeb999 said:
Moto turbo xt1225, stock marshmallow with December security patch. Everything stock, no mods or root. I think it's a memory leak because system ui takes as much as 400-500 mb in couple of days after rebooting.
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1) What is causing YOUR memory leaks? Could be anything. Lots of apps like to run in the background, even if you are not using them, so that when you do "open" them, they will snap open in an instant. (Since they are already running as a background process.) The developer thinks HIS app is so important it needs priority. Meanwhile all the time you don't have it actively open, it's still running in the background sucking up RAM. Every app developer thinks their app should be your most important app.
Greenify
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify&hl=en
This is why an app like Greenify give you control back. Historically it was an app that needed root, but reportedly now also runs without root?
NEW: "Aggressive Doze" and "Doze on the Go" to maximize the battery saving on Android 6+, even without root!
(details explained in settings)
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I don't know, as I've always been rooted and will always be rooted, but check it out. Anyway at least on my rooted phone Greenify will let you forcefully HIBERNATE all apps on a list of your apps that you choose, so that they will NOT run until you manually open them. Like my flashlight app doesn't need to be running in the background until I NEED my flashlight. HIBERNATE. Until I open the app. Then upon closing the app, will go back into HIBERNATION. Greenify will suggest apps to hibernate, but you can expand to a larger list of ALL your apps to choose from. I have over 200 apps, so I just went down through the list and checked most of them off.
Of course, you don't want to hibernate stuff like your email app or messaging app or weather widget. Those DO need to run in the background. But most everything else, yes.
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2) This won't necessarily help you, since you are not rooted, but I also use Auto Reboot to perform a daily scheduled reboot of my phone when I'm not using it. Like 4am, but would depend on each person's preference. Rebooting clears the RAM, prompts app updates, and generally just refreshes your phone. Same speed benefits as rebooting any PC. I have this set on my phone, my wife's phone, as well as all my friends' Androids who I tech support. We're all rooted of course.
Rebooting daily prevents a lot of the lag that seems to accumulate over time. So, I know you are thinking the reboot is "temporary fix", but rebooting daily can prevent any memory leaks from becoming a runaway process.
Auto Reboot (Root only)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pereira.autoreboot&hl=en
This scheduled pre-emptive rebooting when you are NOT using the phone is better than having to reboot when you are actively using the phone, yes? At work, we have a server that seems to freeze up about once a week. It would freeze up when we were using it, really needing it! Finally our engineering staff got the idea to schedule a weekly reboot of this server during a down time when we were NOT using it, and now it never freezes up!

High battery usage - can anyone help?

Hi everyone,
I'm having some major issues with my s10e. It started draining the battery very quickly and it now needs to be charged 2-3 times a day with very little usage. I'm talking like 1 hour SOT usage. It's loosing over 5% of battery per hour just sitting on the table doing nothing. I turned off syncing, uninstalled some apps that could cause is, cleared cache and finally factory reset it. I even downgraded from android 11 to android 10 to see if that will make any difference. But no success. Still high battery drain. It sometimes gets a bit warm as well while not being used. Better battery stats reports high mmc0_detect activity. I've checked my wife's S10lite and she doesn't even have that kind of wake lock at all. I googled it and it's got something to do with memory card. However, the problem exists with several memory cards I checked as well as without one in the phone.
Samsung replaced the battery last week under the warranty but that did not help at all. I'm getting really frustrated with this phone now.
Does anyone know what could be the cause?
On the ss below you can see that it lost 12% in just 2 hours with 7min SOT. That's definitely not what it should be.
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Turn off wifi. Disable all power management and see what it does.
Disable all cloud apps and FB, WhatsApp etc.*
Disable all Google, carrier and Samsung feedback.
Disable Google Firebase.
Turn off locations when not needed.
You'll toast that battery if you don't tone it down; don't charge past 80% for now to lessen the damage.
*try running in safe mode to see if it's a 3rd party app causing it.

blackhawk said:
Turn off wifi. Disable all power management and see what it does.
Disable all cloud apps and FB, WhatsApp etc.*
Disable all Google, carrier and Samsung feedback.
Disable Google Firebase.
Turn off locations when not needed.
You'll toast that battery if you don't tone it down; don't charge past 80% for now to lessen the damage.
*try running in safe mode to see if it's a 3rd party app causing it.
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All cloud apps and syncing are disabled. FB deleted.
How to disable google, carrier and samsung feedback?
How to disable firebase?
Location turned off.
I've not had any issues for over a year of ownership. I've not installed any new apps or used the phone in any different way than I used to.
Thanks

I think mmc0 refers to your internal memory; my guess is that it doesn't work as it should or that it isn't connected properly.

kierownikk said:
All cloud apps and syncing are disabled. FB deleted.
How to disable google, carrier and samsung feedback?
How to disable firebase?
Location turned off.
I've not had any issues for over a year of ownership. I've not installed any new apps or used the phone in any different way than I used to.
Thanks
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Disable Google Backup Transport, Framework and Playstore/Google Play Services (enable as needed). Clear data on all the former except Playstore as needed. Clear System Logs at same time.
Reboots and factory resets are useless for this issue.
Use this Package Blocker*:
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com
Use Karma Firewall (Playstore) to lock it down better.
* you can block all cloud junk, carrier updates and any bloatware as well. Some apks have dependencies so bare this in mind when blocking.

blackhawk said:
Disable Google Backup Transport, Framework and Playstore/Google Play Services (enable as needed). Clear data on all the former except Playstore as needed. Clear System Logs at same time.
Reboots and factory resets are useless for this issue.
Use this Package Blocker*:
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com
Use Karma Firewall (Playstore) to lock it down better.
* you can block all cloud junk, carrier updates and any bloatware as well. Some apks have dependencies so bare this in mind when blocking.
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So with google play services disabled the battery drain is pretty much the same.
Also disabling google play services results in my phone constantly throwing notifications at me saying that some apps need it to work properly. Also without google play services I can't use Google Pay which is a no no for me.

M1chiel said:
I think mmc0 refers to your internal memory; my guess is that it doesn't work as it should or that it isn't connected properly.
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That's what I managed to find out but I don't understand how would it not be connected properly? Besides, everything works fine, all apps, photos, music, it's all there and works on request.