I was wondering if anyone else was having issues with greenify lately? I have noticed that apps that are supposed to be hibernating are not hibernating or waking back up on their own.
For example, I will greenify all apps with the hibernate widget button (not to mention that many apps that i'm trying to hibernate are already added to the hibernate list in hibernate to begin with). the widget will pop up and say XXX apps have been hibernated. then i press the widget again and it says nothing to be hibernated good, I put the device to sleep and leave it alone.
several min later I wake it back up, press the hibernate button again and the same apps that I hibernated just a few min prior are now saying they are hibernating again.
Since i have not woke the device or used it since my last hibernation, why are those apps back awake again?
just weird and not working like its supposed to.
Im trying to nail down this battery drain issue after switching to tmobile and this is something unrelated that I noticed.
many thanks in advance for any help or advice.
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I was wondering if anyone else was having issues with greenify lately? I have noticed that apps that are supposed to be hibernating are not hibernating or waking back up on their own.
For example, I will greenify all apps with the hibernate widget button (not to mention that many apps that i'm trying to hibernate are already added to the hibernate list in hibernate to begin with). the widget will pop up and say XXX apps have been hibernated. then i press the widget again and it says nothing to be hibernated good, I put the device to sleep and leave it alone.
several min later I wake it back up, press the hibernate button again and the same apps that I hibernated just a few min prior are now saying they are hibernating again.
Since i have not woke the device or used it since my last hibernation, why are those apps back awake again?
just weird and not working like its supposed to.
Im trying to nail down this battery drain issue after switching to tmobile and this is something unrelated that I noticed.
many thanks in advance for any help or advice.
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thats just how android works. certain conditiins will call up apps(like signal change, location change, etc). greenify cant stop those. theres an app called autostarts where you can disable those conditions where certain apps are called upon.
simms22 said:
thats just how android works. certain conditiins will call up apps(like signal change, location change, etc). greenify cant stop those. theres an app called autostarts where you can disable those conditions where certain apps are called upon.
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I'd almost agree with you except for the fact that when you greenfy apps like Facebook, and in facebook you have it set to no notifications, no chat etc nothing.. and you greenify it.. it should stay OFF until you open it again especially if i have not used the phone and its idle and no apps have been opened to call it. thats the whole point of greenify... hibernate apps until YOU open or call them. i wouldn't use it if it was just to "snooze" apps until they wake up when ever they want. thats just plain useless and it never happened before with my device. I loved greenify because apps remained OFF until i opened them.
You're not alone, i think it happens to everyone. I get this with shazam and some other apps, they just find a way to "wake up" i guess.
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I'd almost agree with you except for the fact that when you greenfy apps like Facebook, and in facebook you have it set to no notifications, no chat etc nothing.. and you greenify it.. it should stay OFF until you open it again especially if i have not used the phone and its idle and no apps have been opened to call it. thats the whole point of greenify... hibernate apps until YOU open or call them. i wouldn't use it if it was just to "snooze" apps until they wake up when ever they want. thats just plain useless and it never happened before with my device. I loved greenify because apps remained OFF until i opened them.
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for example, here are just some of the conditions apps get called up, no matter what you have set in settings. and an example of some apps that i have installed that get called up when connectivity changes. notice i disabled a lot..
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There are many causes that wake an app even we disabled autostart, disable based on event (network change, app install/uninstall, phone call, sms, time, location, triggred from another app, etc), greenify etc. It always has a "hidden" wakeup call. Donate version of greenify does has 'reveal hidden sync' feature. So it will better handles hibernation.
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Ten min cutoff app.
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This is a pretty general question, but I couldn't find much on google about this. According to the task killers on the market, an app won't be able to stop a service like exchange or maps automatically (it can only kill the UI app). However, the exchange and map services have lots of alarms associated which increase my battery drain by at least a full %/hour. If I kill the services manually every time I use one of these apps then everything is fine. Does anyone have insight into whether an app or script called from tasker can accomplish this automatically?
FYI: I'm using the CM9 unofficial ROM.
You do not need to kill tasks. The system automatically purges non system apps. Just leave them be and always exit an app using the back button
"App killers" aren't recommended past Froyo and can even harm performance.
Under ICS, you can "Disable" many apps using the Manage apps off the main-screen menu. Titanium Backup can also "freeze" apps.
Many of the Google services get pretty "greedy" depending on your settings. That would be a good place to start for "core" services like those.
If that doesn't work, there is the sledgehammer approach of removing the apk from /system/app -- If you do that, watch your logcat to provide some confidence that you haven't disabled something that you need for another app to work.
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You do not need to kill tasks. The system automatically purges non system apps. Just leave them be and always exit an app using the back button
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Le sigh.. didn't even read my post. Also I'm pretty sure the back button thing is a myth.
jeffsf said:
"App killers" aren't recommended past Froyo and can even harm performance.
Under ICS, you can "Disable" many apps using the Manage apps off the main-screen menu. Titanium Backup can also "freeze" apps.
Many of the Google services get pretty "greedy" depending on your settings. That would be a good place to start for "core" services like those.
If that doesn't work, there is the sledgehammer approach of removing the apk from /system/app -- If you do that, watch your logcat to provide some confidence that you haven't disabled something that you need for another app to work.
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Anyway I'm not trying to kill the "apps" themselves. They can sit paused in memory. I want to end their back-end services without uninstalling the app. The exchange service, like I said, will drain the battery with its unnecessary alarms even if I disable sync and turn the sync frequency to "never" and uncheck all the boxes when deciding what to sync. Google screwed up majorly with exchange, but when I kill the service manually using the method you describe then everything is fine and I can still boot up the app like normal to check my email manually. I just want to automate killing the service.
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Le sigh.. didn't even read my post. Also I'm pretty sure the back button thing is a myth.
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Unrelated to your OP but related to your post - on CM9 based ROM's - if you go into Settings > Developer Options - scroll to the bottom and select kill app back button. It works well.
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Le sigh.. didn't even read my post. Also I'm pretty sure the back button thing is a myth.
Anyway I'm not trying to kill the "apps" themselves. They can sit paused in memory. I want to end their back-end services without uninstalling the app. The exchange service, like I said, will drain the battery with its unnecessary alarms even if I disable sync and turn the sync frequency to "never" and uncheck all the boxes when deciding what to sync. Google screwed up majorly with exchange, but when I kill the service manually using the method you describe then everything is fine and I can still boot up the app like normal to check my email manually. I just want to automate killing the service.
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I am also interested in a solution to this. I was hoping to find a widget that displays services, daemons or whatever you wanna call them, in plain text on my home screen, similar to rainmeter for windows. Then you just tap it to manage them. There has to be something similar around.
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Remember that time when your device lost 50% of battery life during the night because a gazillion services from careless apps kept keeping your device awake and you have no way to disable them?
Or when Facebook kept waking up your phone for no reason and you find no way to fix it other than uninstalling it?
Servicely to the rescue!
First of all make sure you're ROOTED (it won't work otherwise). You'll be able to select which apps will be put to sleep when the display goes off. Just like magic!
You can also disable/enable permanently any service on your device. It's useful if you have services that tend to auto-restart and keep your device awake, or if you have games sending you never-ending notifications.
This app is somewhat powerful so act responsibly when using it. I'm more than happy to help if you contact me
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The apk in the Play Store is free with ads, but I've disabled the ads for the apk below. You can still purchase the key from inside the app which helps me keep producing stuff for you, but you don't have to do so.
You can choose between two "sleep" modes. The soft mode I assume it's probably similar to what Greenify does. The hard mode completely disables the apps you've choosed during screen off, and re-enabled during screen on. This mode removes any shortcuts or widgets from those disabled apps, but this is the most secure way to guarantee those apps won't wake up or do something crazy. That said, you'll be fine with the soft mode.
Play Store download: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.franco.servicely
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I take no responsibility for any fault caused by any procedures of the app. No warranties of any kind are given.
Looks promising. Might replace greenify this little gem, thank you??
Enabled pro and start on boot but after closing the app an open it again, it shows this.
Should greenify be disabled/uninstlled before using servicely??
Really like this app! This is like the perfect version of greenify. And probably with more features to come. I was just wondering, is it save to add google play services to list? Or wil I loose allot of functionality with the apps that rely on google play services?
Will this also stop notifications from the app when you have it disabled? Like fb, instagram, xda and twitter?
@franciscofranco
Another possible improvement for your new app:
- With the pro Version there is the option to start the service automatically with the boot. If you boot the device there is no information like "set on boot service has been..." Dont know if you need this message on the boot like in FKU for you new app, but maybe you could make it as an option
and: if you close the app from the task manager, you see the normal action: app is restarting. After the restart the settings/killing apps applies again?
i instantly bought the pro version, before even using it
And if you add a new app to the service, it will be killed after 60 secs? or is first a reboot needed?
And if you kill an app like google keep, can the changes still be synced?
Sorry for the large amount of quetions, i´ve never used apps like this
wow... really like this... thanks franco
just a request for someone who knows... we can get a list with safe services to kill?
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Will this also stop notifications from the app when you have it disabled? Like fb, instagram, xda and twitter?
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Yeah... does this have the background sync feature which I believe Greenify has??
Gonna try this for a while and replace greenify if it's better
Thanks
So if a service is idle, let's kill it every minute. The service restarts - which would come with a CPU/memory expense greater than if it had remained idle - and repeat this every minute?
This doesn't seem like an informed decision. It could just be a checkbox in an application's settings that would alleviate the service from repeating.
I don't see why you don't educate people on looking at application's checkboxes.
@franciscofranco I'm a fan of your work and this app looks beautiful. However, I have a pretty stupid question. How is this different from a task killer and automated killing? I thought those were bad, but is this different?
Turned it off for Google play music, google keyboard, Google play services, lmt. I ran into issues with app fc here.
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Turned it off for Google play music, google keyboard, Google play services, lmt. I ran into issues with app fc here.
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turned it on for google play services and no issues so far.
Yeah... does this have the background sync feature which I believe Greenify has??
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no if an app is selected, it has nor background sync - tested it with telegram (btw with greenify donation it doesn´t work too...)
will test Servicely for a while and report back. If it does a well job, then goodbye Greenify
This app keeps closing apps that I'm using. I thought it only closes if the app is in the background? For example, I'm watching a YouTube video and it just closes.
Umm, this is essentially a task killer....
I don't understand the difference from a task killer. Task killers drain more battery. If it kills a service, it autorestarts, right? Or it is like greenify, keeps the service from starting?
I've tried this with whatsapp and didn't work. I know that is not suppose to kill services in the background, but what does it is suppose to kill? If it is not in the foreground, it is in the background... For an intense, having facebook installed, there is always a background service, this will never kill it, right?
It would be great if if would work better thank greenify, and stopping services from getting started.
Great work Franco! Testing now
I have Greenify, not sure if I'll use this... but purchased paid pro version to support Franco and his awesome Kernel (and other dev projects).
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I have Greenify, not sure if I'll use this... but purchased paid pro version to support Franco and his awesome Kernel (and other dev projects).
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Same here.....
Franco deserve as developer and person... Thx for all
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Doze battery saver extends your battery life and increase the performance of the device by hibernating apps when the screen is off.
Never have your device draining the battery over night while the screen is off.
With Doze Battery Saver you will loose just few per cent over night.
All apps background functionality will be disabled until you launch the app again.
Never hibernate the apps that such as alarms or instant messengers.
This app requires root.
If you have any problems don't hesitate to contact me. If the app crashes it will ask you to send me a crash
report. Please do so. Or write in this thread.
Download
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.chomic.dozebatterysaver.
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v1.0.3
- Added Widget to hibernate
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domin0311 said:
Doze battery saver extends your battery life and increase the performance of the device by hibernating apps when the screen is off.
Never have your device draining the battery over night while the screen is off.
With Doze Battery Saver you will loose just few per cent over night.
All apps background functionality will be disabled until you launch the app again.
Never hibernate the apps that such as alarms or instant messengers.
This app requires root.
If you have any problems don't hesitate to contact me. If the app crashes it will ask you to send me a crash
report. Please do so. Or write in this thread.
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So I am assuming this app works like greenify?
yes, similarly to greenify
@OP, what makes your app different than other hibernating apps? Sticking to Greenify for now but this app got my attention. Too bad I don't have time to test extensively.
I was Greenify user before as well but It started to drain my battery by trying to repeatedly hibernate apps. After some time I decided to write my own app and take a different approach to minimise the battery usage and CPU consumption. The background service doesn’t run all the time instead it wakes up once every few minutes to put the apps into hibernation state , if they are not already hibernated.
domin0311 said:
I was Greenify user before as well but It started to drain my battery by trying to repeatedly hibernate apps. After some time I decided to write my own app and take a different approach to minimise the battery usage and CPU consumption. The background service doesn’t run all the time instead it wakes up once every few minutes to put the apps into hibernation state , if they are not already hibernated.
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I started to use your application, but it allways says "0 apps running". What does this mean? How can we be sure if this application working properly or not?
Thank you.
First of all you need to select apps that you want to hibernate. After you have done that you will see how many of those apps are running in the background. (thats what n apps running means)
domin0311 said:
First of all you need to select apps that you want to hibernate. After you have done that you will see how many of those apps are running in the background. (thats what n apps running means)
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I know and did what you say but as I said before application still shows 0 apps running. Maybe I did something wrong, maybe a bug.
I added some apps to the list and run that apps. When I switch back or reopen Doze Battery Saver, it was still showing 0 apps running.
When you open Recents apps it doesn't mean that all displayed apps are actually running in the background. Could you open Chrome browser and go straight back to Doze Battery Saver to see if its running or not ?
Same.
I opened a webpage with slow 2G (edge) connection. While Chrome still trying to load webpage I back to Doze Battery Saver, it was still showing 0 apps running.
I tried also with Whatsapp, same.
Can it be related with SuperSu, although it grants root permission. I'm using SuperSU Free v2.49 and Doze Battery Saver v1.0.3
did you restart Doze Battery Saver ? when you clicked on the plus button in the app was chrome marked as hibernated ?
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Hi everyone,
I'm having some major issues with my s10e. It started draining the battery very quickly and it now needs to be charged 2-3 times a day with very little usage. I'm talking like 1 hour SOT usage. It's loosing over 5% of battery per hour just sitting on the table doing nothing. I turned off syncing, uninstalled some apps that could cause is, cleared cache and finally factory reset it. I even downgraded from android 11 to android 10 to see if that will make any difference. But no success. Still high battery drain. It sometimes gets a bit warm as well while not being used. Better battery stats reports high mmc0_detect activity. I've checked my wife's S10lite and she doesn't even have that kind of wake lock at all. I googled it and it's got something to do with memory card. However, the problem exists with several memory cards I checked as well as without one in the phone.
Samsung replaced the battery last week under the warranty but that did not help at all. I'm getting really frustrated with this phone now.
Does anyone know what could be the cause?
On the ss below you can see that it lost 12% in just 2 hours with 7min SOT. That's definitely not what it should be.
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Turn off wifi. Disable all power management and see what it does.
Disable all cloud apps and FB, WhatsApp etc.*
Disable all Google, carrier and Samsung feedback.
Disable Google Firebase.
Turn off locations when not needed.
You'll toast that battery if you don't tone it down; don't charge past 80% for now to lessen the damage.
*try running in safe mode to see if it's a 3rd party app causing it.
blackhawk said:
Turn off wifi. Disable all power management and see what it does.
Disable all cloud apps and FB, WhatsApp etc.*
Disable all Google, carrier and Samsung feedback.
Disable Google Firebase.
Turn off locations when not needed.
You'll toast that battery if you don't tone it down; don't charge past 80% for now to lessen the damage.
*try running in safe mode to see if it's a 3rd party app causing it.
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All cloud apps and syncing are disabled. FB deleted.
How to disable google, carrier and samsung feedback?
How to disable firebase?
Location turned off.
I've not had any issues for over a year of ownership. I've not installed any new apps or used the phone in any different way than I used to.
Thanks
I think mmc0 refers to your internal memory; my guess is that it doesn't work as it should or that it isn't connected properly.
kierownikk said:
All cloud apps and syncing are disabled. FB deleted.
How to disable google, carrier and samsung feedback?
How to disable firebase?
Location turned off.
I've not had any issues for over a year of ownership. I've not installed any new apps or used the phone in any different way than I used to.
Thanks
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Disable Google Backup Transport, Framework and Playstore/Google Play Services (enable as needed). Clear data on all the former except Playstore as needed. Clear System Logs at same time.
Reboots and factory resets are useless for this issue.
Use this Package Blocker*:
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com
Use Karma Firewall (Playstore) to lock it down better.
* you can block all cloud junk, carrier updates and any bloatware as well. Some apks have dependencies so bare this in mind when blocking.
blackhawk said:
Disable Google Backup Transport, Framework and Playstore/Google Play Services (enable as needed). Clear data on all the former except Playstore as needed. Clear System Logs at same time.
Reboots and factory resets are useless for this issue.
Use this Package Blocker*:
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com
Use Karma Firewall (Playstore) to lock it down better.
* you can block all cloud junk, carrier updates and any bloatware as well. Some apks have dependencies so bare this in mind when blocking.
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So with google play services disabled the battery drain is pretty much the same.
Also disabling google play services results in my phone constantly throwing notifications at me saying that some apps need it to work properly. Also without google play services I can't use Google Pay which is a no no for me.
M1chiel said:
I think mmc0 refers to your internal memory; my guess is that it doesn't work as it should or that it isn't connected properly.
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That's what I managed to find out but I don't understand how would it not be connected properly? Besides, everything works fine, all apps, photos, music, it's all there and works on request.
I'm happy with the battery performance, but only when the screen is on. When I use the phone mostly with the screen on, I get good SOT(6-9 hours), but with the screen off, the battery consumption is terrible. How can I pull this down?
Probably a cloud app; try temporarily disabling Google play Services, Google backup is a dependency as is Playstore, Gmail. Some apps also need it to run. I enable it once or twice a day. Disabled saves 1+%@hr.
Trashware social media apps like fb, WhatsApp etc shouldn't be installed. It all adds up.
6 hours SOT with a 5002 mAh battery isn't good, 9 hrs is fair to poor. That said all Samsung's should be optimized for best performance.
Thanks for your opininon. Are you saying we shouldn't use Whatsapp? Is it real solution?
Unfortunately, because of SD 8 gen 1 limitations (probably worse on Exynos variant), about 6-7 hours SOT is best you're going to get on the S22 ultra.
Try the following guide here & see if it helps your battery life.
I have the Exynos version. My phone has a SOT of about 10 to 12 hours. Rooted and bebloated. I do have the brightness very low though.
Android 13.
OneUI 5.
Latest.
Lightly debloated.
That's interesting. I guess depends on what apps the phone is using during SOT.......
Mind sharing your battery usage breakdown screenshot?
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Thanks for your opininon. Are you saying we shouldn't use Whatsapp? Is it real solution?
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Real as it gets. All social media apps should never be installed. Many should even be logged on to. WhatsApp track record is stunningly bad.
Lots of users means its got a huge bullseye on it even if they try to secure it, it will hacked again like the sun rises in the morning... for sure. Meanwhile phishing scams run under the radar and count on you screwing up. And many do.
You got to ask yourself one question,
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Thanks for your opininon. Are you saying we shouldn't use Whatsapp? Is it real solution?
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No really. The problem is that all the apps developed by Meta (Facebook, Instagram, Whatsapp) are power hogs. Meta does not care if it chews up battery. The primary reason is that Meta is shoving ads in your face. Even when your screen is off, those apps are running in the background. Meta is not the only offender. There are plenty of other app developers that do the same thing.
Also, there are different "flavors" of Android. Each OEM implements it differently (even within the OEMs). This makes it less cost effective to customize their apps for each OEM. There is only one flavor of iOS and iPadOS, so it is much easier to tweak it for iPhones and iPads than it is for Android devices.
I understand. Thanks. I have another question. You said you turned off google play services. When I turn it off, notifications do not work and many applications do not work. How do you overcome this situation?
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I understand. Thanks. I have another question. You said you turned off google play services. When I turn it off, notifications do not work and many applications do not work. How do you overcome this situation?
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It doesn't effect any notifications for me that I use except Gmail. Most my apps run without it. I tend to shun those that do.
Some of the Samsung apps take the place of Google apps, no need to run both.
If killing Google play Services helps at night it's likely Google backup Transport running.
Hello, I have something to ask about. I need to know if there is any ability to store a system application variables usin adb. Imagine that I want to open my settings app and do something mabye a confirmation dialog will be shown in order to say something such as alert for something supposed that I did click on OK, i the normal case this alert will never be shown even if you clear the settings app data or clear the cash, is there any way to use adb to store the settings app data before opening it the if anything as the previous senario happened I can restore the settings app to the moment before clicking on the OK button or even before this alert has shown
TheKaptan23 said:
I understand. Thanks. I have another question. You said you turned off google play services. When I turn it off, notifications do not work and many applications do not work. How do you overcome this situation?
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Many apps that "need" Google play Services are Playstore pay apps. This can be circumvented by first allowing the app to activate, then firewall blocking their internet connection. Firewall block Playstore as well although it should be disabled except when needed.
If an app doesn't need internet access to function it should be firewall blocked anyway.