This is a pretty general question, but I couldn't find much on google about this. According to the task killers on the market, an app won't be able to stop a service like exchange or maps automatically (it can only kill the UI app). However, the exchange and map services have lots of alarms associated which increase my battery drain by at least a full %/hour. If I kill the services manually every time I use one of these apps then everything is fine. Does anyone have insight into whether an app or script called from tasker can accomplish this automatically?
FYI: I'm using the CM9 unofficial ROM.
You do not need to kill tasks. The system automatically purges non system apps. Just leave them be and always exit an app using the back button
"App killers" aren't recommended past Froyo and can even harm performance.
Under ICS, you can "Disable" many apps using the Manage apps off the main-screen menu. Titanium Backup can also "freeze" apps.
Many of the Google services get pretty "greedy" depending on your settings. That would be a good place to start for "core" services like those.
If that doesn't work, there is the sledgehammer approach of removing the apk from /system/app -- If you do that, watch your logcat to provide some confidence that you haven't disabled something that you need for another app to work.
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You do not need to kill tasks. The system automatically purges non system apps. Just leave them be and always exit an app using the back button
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Le sigh.. didn't even read my post. Also I'm pretty sure the back button thing is a myth.
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"App killers" aren't recommended past Froyo and can even harm performance.
Under ICS, you can "Disable" many apps using the Manage apps off the main-screen menu. Titanium Backup can also "freeze" apps.
Many of the Google services get pretty "greedy" depending on your settings. That would be a good place to start for "core" services like those.
If that doesn't work, there is the sledgehammer approach of removing the apk from /system/app -- If you do that, watch your logcat to provide some confidence that you haven't disabled something that you need for another app to work.
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Anyway I'm not trying to kill the "apps" themselves. They can sit paused in memory. I want to end their back-end services without uninstalling the app. The exchange service, like I said, will drain the battery with its unnecessary alarms even if I disable sync and turn the sync frequency to "never" and uncheck all the boxes when deciding what to sync. Google screwed up majorly with exchange, but when I kill the service manually using the method you describe then everything is fine and I can still boot up the app like normal to check my email manually. I just want to automate killing the service.
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Le sigh.. didn't even read my post. Also I'm pretty sure the back button thing is a myth.
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Unrelated to your OP but related to your post - on CM9 based ROM's - if you go into Settings > Developer Options - scroll to the bottom and select kill app back button. It works well.
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Le sigh.. didn't even read my post. Also I'm pretty sure the back button thing is a myth.
Anyway I'm not trying to kill the "apps" themselves. They can sit paused in memory. I want to end their back-end services without uninstalling the app. The exchange service, like I said, will drain the battery with its unnecessary alarms even if I disable sync and turn the sync frequency to "never" and uncheck all the boxes when deciding what to sync. Google screwed up majorly with exchange, but when I kill the service manually using the method you describe then everything is fine and I can still boot up the app like normal to check my email manually. I just want to automate killing the service.
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I am also interested in a solution to this. I was hoping to find a widget that displays services, daemons or whatever you wanna call them, in plain text on my home screen, similar to rainmeter for windows. Then you just tap it to manage them. There has to be something similar around.
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I was wondering if anyone else was having issues with greenify lately? I have noticed that apps that are supposed to be hibernating are not hibernating or waking back up on their own.
For example, I will greenify all apps with the hibernate widget button (not to mention that many apps that i'm trying to hibernate are already added to the hibernate list in hibernate to begin with). the widget will pop up and say XXX apps have been hibernated. then i press the widget again and it says nothing to be hibernated good, I put the device to sleep and leave it alone.
several min later I wake it back up, press the hibernate button again and the same apps that I hibernated just a few min prior are now saying they are hibernating again.
Since i have not woke the device or used it since my last hibernation, why are those apps back awake again?
just weird and not working like its supposed to.
Im trying to nail down this battery drain issue after switching to tmobile and this is something unrelated that I noticed.
many thanks in advance for any help or advice.
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I was wondering if anyone else was having issues with greenify lately? I have noticed that apps that are supposed to be hibernating are not hibernating or waking back up on their own.
For example, I will greenify all apps with the hibernate widget button (not to mention that many apps that i'm trying to hibernate are already added to the hibernate list in hibernate to begin with). the widget will pop up and say XXX apps have been hibernated. then i press the widget again and it says nothing to be hibernated good, I put the device to sleep and leave it alone.
several min later I wake it back up, press the hibernate button again and the same apps that I hibernated just a few min prior are now saying they are hibernating again.
Since i have not woke the device or used it since my last hibernation, why are those apps back awake again?
just weird and not working like its supposed to.
Im trying to nail down this battery drain issue after switching to tmobile and this is something unrelated that I noticed.
many thanks in advance for any help or advice.
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thats just how android works. certain conditiins will call up apps(like signal change, location change, etc). greenify cant stop those. theres an app called autostarts where you can disable those conditions where certain apps are called upon.
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thats just how android works. certain conditiins will call up apps(like signal change, location change, etc). greenify cant stop those. theres an app called autostarts where you can disable those conditions where certain apps are called upon.
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I'd almost agree with you except for the fact that when you greenfy apps like Facebook, and in facebook you have it set to no notifications, no chat etc nothing.. and you greenify it.. it should stay OFF until you open it again especially if i have not used the phone and its idle and no apps have been opened to call it. thats the whole point of greenify... hibernate apps until YOU open or call them. i wouldn't use it if it was just to "snooze" apps until they wake up when ever they want. thats just plain useless and it never happened before with my device. I loved greenify because apps remained OFF until i opened them.
You're not alone, i think it happens to everyone. I get this with shazam and some other apps, they just find a way to "wake up" i guess.
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I'd almost agree with you except for the fact that when you greenfy apps like Facebook, and in facebook you have it set to no notifications, no chat etc nothing.. and you greenify it.. it should stay OFF until you open it again especially if i have not used the phone and its idle and no apps have been opened to call it. thats the whole point of greenify... hibernate apps until YOU open or call them. i wouldn't use it if it was just to "snooze" apps until they wake up when ever they want. thats just plain useless and it never happened before with my device. I loved greenify because apps remained OFF until i opened them.
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for example, here are just some of the conditions apps get called up, no matter what you have set in settings. and an example of some apps that i have installed that get called up when connectivity changes. notice i disabled a lot..
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There are many causes that wake an app even we disabled autostart, disable based on event (network change, app install/uninstall, phone call, sms, time, location, triggred from another app, etc), greenify etc. It always has a "hidden" wakeup call. Donate version of greenify does has 'reveal hidden sync' feature. So it will better handles hibernation.
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Ten min cutoff app.
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Remember that time when your device lost 50% of battery life during the night because a gazillion services from careless apps kept keeping your device awake and you have no way to disable them?
Or when Facebook kept waking up your phone for no reason and you find no way to fix it other than uninstalling it?
Servicely to the rescue!
First of all make sure you're ROOTED (it won't work otherwise). You'll be able to select which apps will be put to sleep when the display goes off. Just like magic!
You can also disable/enable permanently any service on your device. It's useful if you have services that tend to auto-restart and keep your device awake, or if you have games sending you never-ending notifications.
This app is somewhat powerful so act responsibly when using it. I'm more than happy to help if you contact me
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The apk in the Play Store is free with ads, but I've disabled the ads for the apk below. You can still purchase the key from inside the app which helps me keep producing stuff for you, but you don't have to do so.
You can choose between two "sleep" modes. The soft mode I assume it's probably similar to what Greenify does. The hard mode completely disables the apps you've choosed during screen off, and re-enabled during screen on. This mode removes any shortcuts or widgets from those disabled apps, but this is the most secure way to guarantee those apps won't wake up or do something crazy. That said, you'll be fine with the soft mode.
Play Store download: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.franco.servicely
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I take no responsibility for any fault caused by any procedures of the app. No warranties of any kind are given.
Looks promising. Might replace greenify this little gem, thank you??
Enabled pro and start on boot but after closing the app an open it again, it shows this.
Should greenify be disabled/uninstlled before using servicely??
Really like this app! This is like the perfect version of greenify. And probably with more features to come. I was just wondering, is it save to add google play services to list? Or wil I loose allot of functionality with the apps that rely on google play services?
Will this also stop notifications from the app when you have it disabled? Like fb, instagram, xda and twitter?
@franciscofranco
Another possible improvement for your new app:
- With the pro Version there is the option to start the service automatically with the boot. If you boot the device there is no information like "set on boot service has been..." Dont know if you need this message on the boot like in FKU for you new app, but maybe you could make it as an option
and: if you close the app from the task manager, you see the normal action: app is restarting. After the restart the settings/killing apps applies again?
i instantly bought the pro version, before even using it
And if you add a new app to the service, it will be killed after 60 secs? or is first a reboot needed?
And if you kill an app like google keep, can the changes still be synced?
Sorry for the large amount of quetions, i´ve never used apps like this
wow... really like this... thanks franco
just a request for someone who knows... we can get a list with safe services to kill?
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Will this also stop notifications from the app when you have it disabled? Like fb, instagram, xda and twitter?
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Yeah... does this have the background sync feature which I believe Greenify has??
Gonna try this for a while and replace greenify if it's better
Thanks
So if a service is idle, let's kill it every minute. The service restarts - which would come with a CPU/memory expense greater than if it had remained idle - and repeat this every minute?
This doesn't seem like an informed decision. It could just be a checkbox in an application's settings that would alleviate the service from repeating.
I don't see why you don't educate people on looking at application's checkboxes.
@franciscofranco I'm a fan of your work and this app looks beautiful. However, I have a pretty stupid question. How is this different from a task killer and automated killing? I thought those were bad, but is this different?
Turned it off for Google play music, google keyboard, Google play services, lmt. I ran into issues with app fc here.
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Turned it off for Google play music, google keyboard, Google play services, lmt. I ran into issues with app fc here.
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turned it on for google play services and no issues so far.
Yeah... does this have the background sync feature which I believe Greenify has??
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no if an app is selected, it has nor background sync - tested it with telegram (btw with greenify donation it doesn´t work too...)
will test Servicely for a while and report back. If it does a well job, then goodbye Greenify
This app keeps closing apps that I'm using. I thought it only closes if the app is in the background? For example, I'm watching a YouTube video and it just closes.
Umm, this is essentially a task killer....
I don't understand the difference from a task killer. Task killers drain more battery. If it kills a service, it autorestarts, right? Or it is like greenify, keeps the service from starting?
I've tried this with whatsapp and didn't work. I know that is not suppose to kill services in the background, but what does it is suppose to kill? If it is not in the foreground, it is in the background... For an intense, having facebook installed, there is always a background service, this will never kill it, right?
It would be great if if would work better thank greenify, and stopping services from getting started.
Great work Franco! Testing now
I have Greenify, not sure if I'll use this... but purchased paid pro version to support Franco and his awesome Kernel (and other dev projects).
euge.lee.nebby said:
I have Greenify, not sure if I'll use this... but purchased paid pro version to support Franco and his awesome Kernel (and other dev projects).
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Same here.....
Franco deserve as developer and person... Thx for all
It's weird.. I can't disable it from my s6 Application Management, the option to "Disable" is greyed out. When I go into the S Planner app > Settings > Manage Calendars to switch off all the calendars it's grabbing from my google account.. something turns the calendars back on. Force stop, clear cache, clear data just re-enables S Planner again.
I prefer Google's Calendar app as my main calendar and because I can't disable S Planner I get double event notifications. Has anyone been able to turn it off? I'm not rooted.
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Use debloater program for pc (use search on this forum). Install it, then connect your phone, wait a bit and scan packages. Look for S-planner and click the box next to it and click apply (this will disable the app). You can do this without root.
I simply disabled notifications
Thanks Juzh, I'll look into that.
In regards to the last post. Can you post where to disable that?
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Go to application manager ... In settings. You can disable notifications for many apps (which stops them running in background as well as solving your s planner problem)
OK however my S Planner notification option is checked but greyed out to disable. Does yours toggle? Could be something wrong with my phone. Anyone else can disable like the last post mentioned?
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Just go into the Samsung calendar app and turn off the notifications in the settings
There are a few ways to do this it seems. There is a setting called App notifications. Find S Planner. Click on the cog wheel for settings.
Turn notifications off.
This happened to me too!
I tried to switch over to google Calendar, but got double notifications. I wanted to uninstall it, but that was not possible. So I went into the permissions of the S-planner app and turned off all permissions.
From that point on, it kept sending me notifications that I had to give S-planner permission to read the calendar and other items. I couldn't even go into the app itself and tell the app to stop making these notifications because it would keep popping up a message that I had to set permissions to read calendar and then it would return to the main screen of the app.
In the end, I resigned to allowing it to read my calendar and then from the app itself turn off notifications.
So I still have the app, but i no longer have double notifications.
@Mainow, I have this too, it bothers me greatly. Did you get this fixed?
jjust use titanium backup and disable it their without truning off notification or something its called freeze in titanium back up
Package Disabler Pro
I use Package Disabler Pro. I used the free version for a bit but do like being able to kill S Planner, S Voice and all those other little hard to kill apps that come on the S6 (and S7). In the end I bought the app, but it was pretty cheap. Oh, also does not need root.
Hope this helps.
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It's weird.. I can't disable it from my s6 Application Management, the option to "Disable" is greyed out. When I go into the S Planner app > Settings > Manage Calendars to switch off all the calendars it's grabbing from my google account.. something turns the calendars back on. Force stop, clear cache, clear data just re-enables S Planner again.
I prefer Google's Calendar app as my main calendar and because I can't disable S Planner I get double event notifications. Has anyone been able to turn it off? I'm not rooted.
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Thank you kindly msstockham
Well, I no longer get double notifications and s planner has stopped complaining about being able to read the calendars. So yeah, it's pretty much fixed. Only thing is that I would have rather just uninstalled s planner, because it's still there
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@Mainow, I have this too, it bothers me greatly. Did you get this fixed?
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Whoa. I haven't been on the forum a while. I thought I would have gotten an email if someone replied to my message.
Sorry for the VERY late answer
In short, no, i never got this fixed other than what i described. S-planner still is able to read my calendar, but I muted the notifications from the app itself
Do any of you facing an issue of system ui taking a lot of memory? It happens with me daily and only way to a temporary fix is reboot.
mujeeb999 said:
Do any of you facing an issue of system ui taking a lot of memory? It happens with me daily and only way to a temporary fix is reboot.
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What device? What ROM? What mods? What's running in the background? What makes you think it's specifically a memory leak, instead of something else like a runaway process?
Without details, we cannot help you.
Moto turbo xt1225, stock marshmallow with December security patch. Everything stock, no mods or root. I think it's a memory leak because system ui takes as much as 400-500 mb in couple of days after rebooting.
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Do any of you facing an issue of system ui taking a lot of memory? It happens with me daily and only way to a temporary fix is reboot.
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mujeeb999 said:
Moto turbo xt1225, stock marshmallow with December security patch. Everything stock, no mods or root. I think it's a memory leak because system ui takes as much as 400-500 mb in couple of days after rebooting.
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1) What is causing YOUR memory leaks? Could be anything. Lots of apps like to run in the background, even if you are not using them, so that when you do "open" them, they will snap open in an instant. (Since they are already running as a background process.) The developer thinks HIS app is so important it needs priority. Meanwhile all the time you don't have it actively open, it's still running in the background sucking up RAM. Every app developer thinks their app should be your most important app.
Greenify
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This is why an app like Greenify give you control back. Historically it was an app that needed root, but reportedly now also runs without root?
NEW: "Aggressive Doze" and "Doze on the Go" to maximize the battery saving on Android 6+, even without root!
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I don't know, as I've always been rooted and will always be rooted, but check it out. Anyway at least on my rooted phone Greenify will let you forcefully HIBERNATE all apps on a list of your apps that you choose, so that they will NOT run until you manually open them. Like my flashlight app doesn't need to be running in the background until I NEED my flashlight. HIBERNATE. Until I open the app. Then upon closing the app, will go back into HIBERNATION. Greenify will suggest apps to hibernate, but you can expand to a larger list of ALL your apps to choose from. I have over 200 apps, so I just went down through the list and checked most of them off.
Of course, you don't want to hibernate stuff like your email app or messaging app or weather widget. Those DO need to run in the background. But most everything else, yes.
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2) This won't necessarily help you, since you are not rooted, but I also use Auto Reboot to perform a daily scheduled reboot of my phone when I'm not using it. Like 4am, but would depend on each person's preference. Rebooting clears the RAM, prompts app updates, and generally just refreshes your phone. Same speed benefits as rebooting any PC. I have this set on my phone, my wife's phone, as well as all my friends' Androids who I tech support. We're all rooted of course.
Rebooting daily prevents a lot of the lag that seems to accumulate over time. So, I know you are thinking the reboot is "temporary fix", but rebooting daily can prevent any memory leaks from becoming a runaway process.
Auto Reboot (Root only)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pereira.autoreboot&hl=en
This scheduled pre-emptive rebooting when you are NOT using the phone is better than having to reboot when you are actively using the phone, yes? At work, we have a server that seems to freeze up about once a week. It would freeze up when we were using it, really needing it! Finally our engineering staff got the idea to schedule a weekly reboot of this server during a down time when we were NOT using it, and now it never freezes up!
I'm happy with the battery performance, but only when the screen is on. When I use the phone mostly with the screen on, I get good SOT(6-9 hours), but with the screen off, the battery consumption is terrible. How can I pull this down?
Probably a cloud app; try temporarily disabling Google play Services, Google backup is a dependency as is Playstore, Gmail. Some apps also need it to run. I enable it once or twice a day. Disabled saves 1+%@hr.
Trashware social media apps like fb, WhatsApp etc shouldn't be installed. It all adds up.
6 hours SOT with a 5002 mAh battery isn't good, 9 hrs is fair to poor. That said all Samsung's should be optimized for best performance.
Thanks for your opininon. Are you saying we shouldn't use Whatsapp? Is it real solution?
Unfortunately, because of SD 8 gen 1 limitations (probably worse on Exynos variant), about 6-7 hours SOT is best you're going to get on the S22 ultra.
Try the following guide here & see if it helps your battery life.
I have the Exynos version. My phone has a SOT of about 10 to 12 hours. Rooted and bebloated. I do have the brightness very low though.
Android 13.
OneUI 5.
Latest.
Lightly debloated.
That's interesting. I guess depends on what apps the phone is using during SOT.......
Mind sharing your battery usage breakdown screenshot?
TheKaptan23 said:
Thanks for your opininon. Are you saying we shouldn't use Whatsapp? Is it real solution?
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Real as it gets. All social media apps should never be installed. Many should even be logged on to. WhatsApp track record is stunningly bad.
Lots of users means its got a huge bullseye on it even if they try to secure it, it will hacked again like the sun rises in the morning... for sure. Meanwhile phishing scams run under the radar and count on you screwing up. And many do.
You got to ask yourself one question,
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Thanks for your opininon. Are you saying we shouldn't use Whatsapp? Is it real solution?
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No really. The problem is that all the apps developed by Meta (Facebook, Instagram, Whatsapp) are power hogs. Meta does not care if it chews up battery. The primary reason is that Meta is shoving ads in your face. Even when your screen is off, those apps are running in the background. Meta is not the only offender. There are plenty of other app developers that do the same thing.
Also, there are different "flavors" of Android. Each OEM implements it differently (even within the OEMs). This makes it less cost effective to customize their apps for each OEM. There is only one flavor of iOS and iPadOS, so it is much easier to tweak it for iPhones and iPads than it is for Android devices.
I understand. Thanks. I have another question. You said you turned off google play services. When I turn it off, notifications do not work and many applications do not work. How do you overcome this situation?
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I understand. Thanks. I have another question. You said you turned off google play services. When I turn it off, notifications do not work and many applications do not work. How do you overcome this situation?
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It doesn't effect any notifications for me that I use except Gmail. Most my apps run without it. I tend to shun those that do.
Some of the Samsung apps take the place of Google apps, no need to run both.
If killing Google play Services helps at night it's likely Google backup Transport running.
Hello, I have something to ask about. I need to know if there is any ability to store a system application variables usin adb. Imagine that I want to open my settings app and do something mabye a confirmation dialog will be shown in order to say something such as alert for something supposed that I did click on OK, i the normal case this alert will never be shown even if you clear the settings app data or clear the cash, is there any way to use adb to store the settings app data before opening it the if anything as the previous senario happened I can restore the settings app to the moment before clicking on the OK button or even before this alert has shown
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I understand. Thanks. I have another question. You said you turned off google play services. When I turn it off, notifications do not work and many applications do not work. How do you overcome this situation?
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Many apps that "need" Google play Services are Playstore pay apps. This can be circumvented by first allowing the app to activate, then firewall blocking their internet connection. Firewall block Playstore as well although it should be disabled except when needed.
If an app doesn't need internet access to function it should be firewall blocked anyway.