Downgrade to JB 4.2. - Droid Ultra Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello, I've done a little research and I need your help.
I have Motorola Droid Maxx non-dev with 4.4.4., 21.11.21.obake, SU4.21 and I would like to downgrade to first firmware. I know that I need unlock my bootloader and Sunshine app works with SU4.21 well so I will use it. My problem is I need working root. I can't find any. I tried kingroot and other 2 similar to kingroot with no succes. Please help.
Thanks a lot.

Use the temp root
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Durteedee said:
Use the temp root
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Ok, thanks. And when I'm unlocked I can just flash via rsdlite?

Nope I don't think you can downgrade at all
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Durteedee said:
Nope I don't think you can downgrade at all
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A lot of people are saying if you have unlocked bootloader you can but noone is saying HOW!

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fufixiil said:
A lot of people are saying if you have unlocked bootloader you can but noone is saying HOW!
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My maxx is messed up and needs some work so I have been playing with it.
Once your android version gets to 4.4.4 you will get a downgrade security warning and it will not let you proceed with the downgrade. At least I have not found a way.
But... If you use mfastboot you can downgrade 'parts' of it. There are some things like the gpt image that will trigger the warning and not let you flash that part, but I have been able to get my maxx 'partially' downgraded so that the version listed is 4.2.2 using mfastboot by flashing one part at a time.

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if you took a bootloader unlocked HD and used SBF then you would have a locked bootloader again ???
just wonderring if that would be a way to go back?
thanks
idroidnow said:
if you took a bootloader unlocked hd and used sbf then you would have a locked bootloader again ???
Just wonderring if that would be a way to go back?
Thanks
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good question. My guess would be no. Hopefully since there is a root method for 4.1.2 someone will try and let us know...
it made sense to me that if would lock it again since its not a hardware based unlock and SBF sets it to factory. i know they can relock a bootloader with an OTA so why not a SBF?
idroidnow said:
it made sense to me that if would lock it again since its not a hardware based unlock and sbf sets it to factory. I know they can relock a bootloader with an ota so why not a sbf?
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because when they put the sbf together they werent trying to relock the bootloader. I really have no idea, just speculating.
IF ANYONE HAS A LINK TO THE MAXX HD SBF ID BE WILLING TO TRY IT...
we need someone wiser then us
i just would li ek to know i could go back to locked for testing purposes.
idroidnow said:
we need someone wiser then us
i just would li ek to know i could go back to locked for testing purposes.
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i found the sbf from your other thread, ill try it and let you know
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i found the sbf from your other thread, ill try it and let you know
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thanks !!!
iDroidNow said:
if you took a bootloader unlocked HD and used SBF then you would have a locked bootloader again ???
just wonderring if that would be a way to go back?
thanks
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No, SBF will not relock the bootloader. The unlock method for all consumer HD's blows the QFuse, once it's blown it cannot be unblown.
Meaning your device cannot be re-locked. After I unlocked I SBF'd back to ICS, just to start fresh, before loading up CM 10.1. Hope this answers your question.
thanks for the answer. was hoping it would lock it back. ooh well.
idroidnow said:
thanks for the answer. Was hoping it would lock it back. Ooh well.
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doesnt touch bootloader, it stays unlocked
Is there any method to lock it? At all?
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Where is the sbf file at if you don't mind me asking
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dustin4863 said:
Where is the sbf file at if you don't mind me asking
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Take a look here: http://sbf.droid-developers.org/vanquish_u/list.php
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joshua_helm said:
Is there any method to lock it? At all?
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I don't think this is possible and if it is only Motorola knows.
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Can someone please explain to me what are the advantages of having an unlocked boot loader.
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xblackchaosx said:
can someone please explain to me what are the advantages of having an unlocked boot loader.
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for one youll always have a way to root your phone. Fastbooting twrp/cwm means you can flash su even if moto blocks existing exploits. That in itself is good enough for me.
Apparently, the guy who discovered the unlock also answered this: no, it can never be relocked. Unlocking blows a QFuse on the phone that can never be unblown given the physical nature of the fuse.
I'll tell you how, maybe a week or 3 from now, AT&T and Motorola will finish bloating up there update and use some excuse such as security to re lock the bootloader.
Codex01 said:
I'll tell you how, maybe a week or 3 from now, AT&T and Motorola will finish bloating up there update and use some excuse such as security to re lock the bootloader.
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There is no way for moto or anyone to re-lock our bootloaders once they are unlocked. The only thing that can happen now is that Moto can make an update that can prevent us from unlocking/rooting if the new phone comes with this new firmware or we take the ota without being rooted and/or unlocked. No firmware patch/upgrade can re-lock once unlocked...
A few people on the atrix forums says otherwise. It makes me think, but Motorola would be wrong to do that now that they're owned by Google.

Is it possible to root DROID ULTRA on KitKat?

My DROID ultra is currently running KitKat and I know there is a method called SlapMyMoto but it requires you to be on android 4.2.2 to complete some steps and THEN take the 4.4 update.
Is there a way for me to Downgrade to 4.2.2 and then update to 4.4 and root it withoutdo I losing things like my apps and other data or do I HAVE TO lose my data to be rooted on 4.4
PLZ HELP!!!
Thanks
John
Not currently
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But can I still gain root but using house of moto to downgrade to 4.2.2 and then use slapmymoto to gain root or is it IMPOSSIBLE to downgrade?
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Imposdible to downgrade
Maxx'd out Kit Kat
downgrade with DE
Topsnake said:
Imposdible to downgrade
Maxx'd out Kit Kat
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I heard downgrade was possible with the developer edition. I've searched but haven't found instructions or advice on how to do this...any thoughts by folks smarter than myself.
OldManP said:
I heard downgrade was possible with the developer edition. I've searched but haven't found instructions or advice on how to do this...any thoughts by folks smarter than myself.
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you CAN downgrade on the DE, bootloader remains on KK though. It also is not necessary to downgrade a DE to get root on KitKat as the rooting process is the same as if you were on JB.
So, does this mean the root process is the same if the boot loader is unlocked? If that's the case, that'd make my month!
OldManP said:
So, does this mean the root process is the same if the boot loader is unlocked? If that's the case, that'd make my month!
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If your boot loader is unlocked then the root process is the same whether on JB or KK. Just install twrp reboot recovery and reboot system. Install root when it asks
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After using sunshine how do i get root?

Im currently running kitkat 4.4.4. on my ultra. I have searched and searched and can't seem to find a working root for my build on droid ultra. I am aware that there is a app called sunshine that unlocks your bootloader (for 25 bucks) but i have two questions regarding this. 1. when using sunshine does it erase all your data when unlocking the bootloader? 2. After unlocking the bootloader is there anyway i can get root on my phone? And if anyone knows of a way to root the ultra on 4.4.4 please feel free to tell me!
Thanks,
droidusr2014
droidusr2014 said:
Im currently running kitkat 4.4.4. on my ultra. I have searched and searched and can't seem to find a working root for my build on droid ultra. I am aware that there is a app called sunshine that unlocks your bootloader (for 25 bucks) but i have two questions regarding this. 1. when using sunshine does it erase all your data when unlocking the bootloader? 2. After unlocking the bootloader is there anyway i can get root on my phone? And if anyone knows of a way to root the ultra on 4.4.4 please feel free to tell me!
Thanks,
droidusr2014
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1. Sunshine did not erase data for me.
2. Follow this write up http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2645122 and install supersu through TWRP
Ok thanks for your reply. Sorry to bother you with one last question, so just making sure that sunshine won't take my data and it will work without problem on my droid ultra running Kitkat 4.4.4? And also after this I will be able to get root?
Thanks,
droidusr2014
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droidusr2014 said:
Ok thanks for your reply. Sorry to bother you with one last question, so just making sure that sunshine won't take my data and it will work without problem on my droid ultra running Kitkat 4.4.4? And also after this I will be able to get root?
Thanks,
droidusr2014
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Sunshine doesn't work on 4.4.4 unless already rooted. Only 4.4.3 and below.
Topsnake said:
Sunshine doesn't work on 4.4.4 unless already rooted. Only 4.4.3 and below.
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OK on sunshine there is a temp root option will that work? Or is there a way for me to get permanent root on 4.4.4....? although as far as I know there isn't a way to get root on 4.4.4
Thanks for the help,
droidusr2014
droidusr2014 said:
OK on sunshine there is a temp root option will that work? Or is there a way for me to get permanent root on 4.4.4....? although as far as I know there isn't a way to get root on 4.4.4
Thanks for the help,
droidusr2014
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No;No;Correct
Topsnake said:
No;No;Correct
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OK well it looks like I'm stuck then ..... wish the droid family had more developer and root support....
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droidusr2014 said:
OK well it looks like I'm stuck then ..... wish the droid family had more developer and root support....
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By all means, let the app check for you, but the failure rate is pretty consistent on 4.4.4.

How to root?

Hello,
I have verizon razr hd xt926 stock version 4.4.2 i am unable to root through towelroot what is another solution for root, unlock bootloader and recovery.
Please help.
Take a look around and read a little bit but I'm pretty sure it's been mentioned a few times that once you upgrade to stock 4.4.2 there is no such thing as rooting or unlocking your bootloader anymore. They've locked it down. Google the specific version that you have.
grnsl2 said:
Take a look around and read a little bit but I'm pretty sure it's been mentioned a few times that once you upgrade to stock 4.4.2 there is no such thing as rooting or unlocking your bootloader anymore. They've locked it down. Google the specific version that you have.
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Oh i am on latest build jul 2014 means i cant root it? May be there is any solution plz help
Is it possible i downgrade version and then root it
efuzone said:
Is it possible i downgrade version and then root it
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No
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RikRong said:
No
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So it means i lost the chance no any solution?
efuzone said:
So it means i lost the chance no any solution?
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Yes. You will forever have that device running whatever it is you have. NEVER take new OTAs until you read up on them and learn the effects of what the update does. Some updates are good to go and will allow you to unlock and root. Others, which it looks like in your case, will not allow you to unlock and root.
Best bet, find a broken device on ebay or amazon that is still able to be unlocked, buy it, and have it shipped to you. Also purchase any tools needed to open your device and a T5 screwdriver. Do a motherboard swap and then follow any guides on here to get the unlockable OTA to your device.
Good luck with this issue, we'll be here to help where/when we can.

Need some help guys, been a while since I've done this.

Bit of background...I've had Android phones since the OG Droid. All of them were rooted. The phone I have now is the Razr HD which I've never rooted. Guess I just got out of the game for a while. I want to root it now but unfortunately, it's been so long since I've been around the forums that I don't really know what anything is anymore or what does what.
I'm sure this has been asked before but every search I do, I come up with stuff that I don't understand. Can someone help out?
Phone is running 4.4.2
System version: 183.46.15.XT926
Thanks!
If your boot loader is locked, you can't do anything.
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maverick31210 said:
Bit of background...I've had Android phones since the OG Droid. All of them were rooted. The phone I have now is the Razr HD which I've never rooted. Guess I just got out of the game for a while. I want to root it now but unfortunately, it's been so long since I've been around the forums that I don't really know what anything is anymore or what does what.
I'm sure this has been asked before but every search I do, I come up with stuff that I don't understand. Can someone help out?
Phone is running 4.4.2
System version: 183.46.15.XT926
Thanks!
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Abstract: you wanna root your Motorola Razr HD (xt925) ?
You can't go anymore with the "gentle procedure" - which is using Motochopper, a way to root the 4.1.2 without tearing apart your phone.
So either you go back with a stock 4.1.2 and live happily with motochopper and a slow sys, or you follow Motorola instructions to unlock the phone. Be aware that once you enter the code Motorola will provide you'll void your warranty (if you still are under the grace period).
Graf Schmidt said:
Abstract: you wanna root your Motorola Razr HD (xt925) ?
You can't go anymore with the "gentle procedure" - which is using Motochopper, a way to root the 4.1.2 without tearing apart your phone.
So either you go back with a stock 4.1.2 and live happily with motochopper and a slow sys, or you follow Motorola instructions to unlock the phone. Be aware that once you enter the code Motorola will provide you'll void your warranty (if you still are under the grace period).
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You need to stop putting bad info out there, this unlock only works on the 925. The system version he shows is FW for the 926. You can't unlock the 926 via Moto.
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RikRong said:
You need to stop putting bad info out there, this unlock only works on the 925. The system version he shows is FW for the 926. You can't unlock the 926 via Moto.
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Isn't the Razr HD the xt925?
Or am I getting confused with all those names?
Edit: ah yeah, sorry, I've read only "RAZR HD", and I din't pay attention to sysver. My bad.
Graf Schmidt said:
Isn't the Razr HD the xt925?
Or am I getting confused with all those names?
Edit: ah yeah, sorry, I've read only "RAZR HD", and I din't pay attention to sysver. My bad.
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The 925 is the GSM variant and is unlockable through Moto. The 926 is the CDMA model that is typically used on Verizon and it's not unlockable through Moto.
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RikRong said:
The 925 is the GSM variant and is unlockable through Moto. The 926 is the CDMA model that is typically used on Verizon and it's not unlockable through Moto.
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Hi, RikRong. I'm also new to this XT926 and on the latest firmware I guess (183.46.15.xt926), is there's any new way to unlock bootloader and root this device? I read an old instruction in another post and just bought this device and now I'm so screwed over .
shallwedance said:
Hi, RikRong. I'm also new to this XT926 and on the latest firmware I guess (183.46.15.xt926), is there's any new way to unlock bootloader and root this device? I read an old instruction in another post and just bought this device and now I'm so screwed over .
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Unfortunately, right now there is no way to root or unlock that build.
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Is this still the case? My phone was auto-upgraded to 4.4.2... I'm stuck?

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