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[Q] stock rom vs custom rom

good morning,
i'm quite new on this phone even if It works fine for me with a stock rom 4.0.4 I would you like to understand if there is a good advantage to pass on a custom rom.
Please share with me your experience and answer with my few questions:
what kind of custom rom and kermel you have on?
which is the difference there is in term of battery life; performance; stability.
Thanks for your help

Welcome to the Nexus ... you're going to love this phone. With that said, you need to jump in and do some reading. There is no shortage of opinion on which rom, kernel, or even GB vs ICS ... is best. It very much depends on your likes, dislikes, etc. I assume that you have a gsm device, so make sure to flash the appropriate roms, kernels, etc. Lastly, there is lots of help available, but it's always best if you dig in and bring yourself up to speed with what's already been posted in these great forums. Good luck!

wmdunn said:
Welcome to the Nexus ... you're going to love this phone. With that said, you need to jump in and do some reading. There is no shortage of opinion on which rom, kernel, or even GB vs ICS ... is best. It very much depends on your likes, dislikes, etc. I assume that you have a gsm device, so make sure to flash the appropriate roms, kernels, etc. Lastly, there is lots of help available, but it's always best if you dig in and bring yourself up to speed with what's already been posted in these great forums. Good luck!
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thanks mate,
after few weeks i tested it, i find this phone a very good one and I don't feel the need to jump in a custom rom. I rooted it, installed a busybox and the clockwork and I added some apps to eliminate some gaps like the missing notification when the screen is off (I installed the noled apk for it) or like a switch off or switch on of the screen using the power button (I used an apps called accendi scermo and I switch on and off the screen using the phone sensor). The only thing that miss on this phone is an fm radio offline. I'm still searching a solution.

Stock rom: more stable, less features
Custom rom: less stable, more features

Well if you want to be normal. Than good for you.
Now a custom rom and kernel can give you unlimited privilages to things you can never imagine possible. Undervolting your device to give you brain blowing battery life or over clocking to give you awesome graphics.
A custom rom like CM9 or AOKP (there are way more than two but im just listing the popular ones) is of course better than stock since... well if it wasnt why would they make it. A kernel links your hardware to your software, meaning you can do some tweaking in the middle. If you find the right kernel and rom mix you can have a wopping 15 days standby on your battery (eg CM9 and Matr1x Kernel).
Now thats just the basics. if you are interested and want more information. Just do a bit of research and reading in this forum and ask questions in those forums. Hope this helps.

ics 4.0.4 stock+ simple or thalamus kernel

Or Bugless Beast with one of those kernels
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TigaTiger said:
Well if you want to be normal. Than good for you.
Now a custom rom and kernel can give you unlimited privilages to things you can never imagine possible. Undervolting your device to give you brain blowing battery life or over clocking to give you awesome graphics.
A custom rom like CM9 or AOKP (there are way more than two but im just listing the popular ones) is of course better than stock since... well if it wasnt why would they make it. A kernel links your hardware to your software, meaning you can do some tweaking in the middle. If you find the right kernel and rom mix you can have a wopping 15 days standby on your battery (eg CM9 and Matr1x Kernel).
Now thats just the basics. if you are interested and want more information. Just do a bit of research and reading in this forum and ask questions in those forums. Hope this helps.
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Thanks x your answer. You gave a good view. As sono i find ti me i Will try a custom rom with a kermel
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TigaTiger said:
If you find the right kernel and rom mix you can have a wopping 15 days standby on your battery (eg CM9 and Matr1x Kernel).
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I want 15 days standby! lmfao maybe a day at most if I'm at home with my wifi on and airave all day...

Lol

Lol. Wtf is the point in having a smartphone if you aren't going to use it?
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chronophase1 said:
Lol. Wtf is the point in having a smartphone if you aren't going to use it?
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Haha that's the problem! I use it too much! Lmfao

Rblacula said:
Haha that's the problem! I use it too much! Lmfao
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Yeah.... well, I have to use 2 even 3 batteries for day as heavy usage...
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Andromadus vs. Jellytime vs. PACman vs. Pure CM10

Hello,
at the moment i am using Jellytime. For now i am happy with this, but i think the battery life could be just better. So which rom from above offers you the best battery lifetime?

im using pacman.. the battery life is good.. i can use the phone the whole day(surfing, internet, texting, music...).. i always plug my phone in before going to bed, and i still have around 10% left
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ddd- said:
Hello,
at the moment i am using Jellytime. For now i am happy with this, but i think the battery life could be just better. So which rom from above offers you the best battery lifetime?
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Using Pacman v18.0 at the moment and the battery life is not very good. Its usually dead by evening.

nikhilmulay said:
Using Pacman v18.0 at the moment and the battery life is not very good. Its usually dead by evening.
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Me too. Battery life is very short using Pacman v18.0, at most 5 hours. The screen is the process that consumes more battery. Maybe it is only a my problem, but with Fallout v.5 I didn't have this problem (but others :laugh.

Well I find the battery life good on pure CM10.
If it wasnt for the graphics glitches when browsing, it'd be a really good ROM!

I have installed Pacman v18.0 about 3 days ago and am very impressed with the ROM. No problem with battery life but one major problem with the phone randomly going into Sim Lock mode. Could be after 5 minutes, could be after 5 hours and sometimes while just using it.

PACman, way to go.

I'm using Andromadus CM10.1 and battery is good...Overall is good except Bluetooth that doesn't work yet...

nikhilmulay said:
Using Pacman v18.0 at the moment and the battery life is not very good. Its usually dead by evening.
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Mine has about an hours worth of battery...
For now I'm switching to my sense rom

On the latest build (build 10) of Andromadus 10.1 I found that the bluetooth was fixed!
Overall, at this time, I believe that the 3 andromadus ROMs are by far the best Jellybean effords!

Thank GOD I got here...
Could someone help me with rom that includes these features?
1. The official ics look (nexus ics)
2. That includes all apps like the sensed ics got. (fM radio,voice recorder,youtube etc)
3. My wifi doesnt turn on when i use any custom rom It just says "Turning on wifi" for the whole day.
4. The settings tab normal (not the tablet type like pacman got)
....
Thanks

battery life when using pacman is sucks, only 7 hours with minimal usage, texting, phone with 3g/hsdpa signal

gunn46 said:
battery life when using pacman is sucks, only 7 hours with minimal usage, texting, phone with 3g/hsdpa signal
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Can someone recommend ROM with good battery life indead of lamenting on PACMAN ?

badmanPL said:
Can someone recommend ROM with good battery life indead of lamenting on PACMAN ?
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why not try the ROMS yourself and find which one is suitable for u. Everyone has a different preference and taste.
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hisname said:
why not try the ROMS yourself and find which one is suitable for u. Everyone has a different preference and taste.
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I'am trying different roms all the time... right now I'm using FullySamsung-1.0.1 since couple of days... battery life sucks on this rom...
I do not see the connection between battery life and "preferences and taste"...
From my experiences all JB roms for DS are draining battery very fast...

badmanPL said:
I'am trying different roms all the time... right now I'm using FullySamsung-1.0.1 since couple of days... battery life sucks on this rom...
I do not see the connection between battery life and "preferences and taste"...
From my experiences all JB roms for DS are draining battery very fast...
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some people prefer to UV their kernels. Some people don't prefer. Some kernels allow UV, some don't. see it all comes down to preference,of course UV also may cause performance to decrease. so it stills come down to preference.
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hisname said:
some people prefer to UV their kernels. Some people don't prefer. Some kernels allow UV, some don't. see it all comes down to preference,of course UV also may cause performance to decrease. so it stills come down to preference.
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That still isn't answer for a question from first topic... "So which rom from above offers you the best battery lifetime?".
It's just general deviation about the opportunities offered by kernels...

badmanPL said:
That still isn't answer for a question from first topic... "So which rom from above offers you the best battery lifetime?".
It's just general deviation about the opportunities offered by kernels...
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Hmm, when ppl say try it yourself, it simply means that u would have to flash the rom to know what's best for u.
Everyone uses his/her phone differently, so basicly there is no ideal rom that pleases everyone.
Everyone will you give a different opinion in terms of battery/speed/etc. That's why it is a bit pointless in asking what's the "best rom" for the other person when the usage is different.
So no point having second doubt and just flash the phone, try every single rom, i have flash from sense to cm to ics and now back to gb.
Go ahead and experiment the roms for yourself. Today someone might give u a suggestion, the next day a another. that's why it is consider pointless in asking such question as 'which is the best can u recommend me' and much better to try it for yourself instead of being shortchange in case there is another better than that is being suggested.

Camera Issue
Does any one facing camera issue?
I tried installing many JB roms but camera lags in all while video recording.
Is there any work around for this??
Thanks..

Bluetooth an Andromadus CM10.1
Can someone help me wh my bluetooth isn't working on Build 12?
I can't receive any incoming file etc.
-permissions are fixed
-wiped everything!
THANKS in ADVANCE Folks!!!

[Q] Most stable battery efficient ROM?

I'm fixing a phone for someone. At first it was stock and crashed very often about once every 10 minutes of use, so I flashed cyanogenmod but the battery life is much worse. I just need a good stable battery efficient ROM and the other features like ICS don't matter much. Any suggestions?

Daedalus_ said:
I'm fixing a phone for someone. At first it was stock and crashed very often about once every 10 minutes of use, so I flashed cyanogenmod but the battery life is much worse. I just need a good stable battery efficient ROM and the other features like ICS don't matter much. Any suggestions?
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Try them, and find out for yourself. Everyone seems to get different results, different preferences and different usage of the device.

bhundven said:
Try them, and find out for yourself. Everyone seems to get different results, different preferences and different usage of the device.
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The problem with that is that I'm not using the device so I can't test out several roms during the day and find out what has good battery life.

Daedalus_ said:
The problem with that is that I'm not using the device so I can't test out several roms during the day and find out what has good battery life.
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Then just leave the phone off?!? That's the best battery saving rom EVAH!

Daedalus_ said:
The problem with that is that I'm not using the device so I can't test out several roms during the day and find out what has good battery life.
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I didn't ask what's the most stable, battery efficient ROM on SGSII forum when my friend gave me a day. Flash a ROM, give it to your friend and see what he thinks of it, then if he doesn't like it then flash another ROM.
It's all about preference, you might like SCOM ROM (GB) but your friend might prefer CyanogenMod9 (ICS) more. But if your really looking towards battery life go for Gingerbread ROM.

th3controller said:
I didn't ask what's the most stable, battery efficient ROM on SGSII forum when my friend gave me a day. Flash a ROM, give it to your friend and see what he thinks of it, then if he doesn't like it then flash another ROM.
It's all about preference, you might like SCOM ROM (GB) but your friend might prefer CyanogenMod9 (ICS) more. But if your really looking towards battery life go for Gingerbread ROM.
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You guys really can't just tell me what works for you or what you had experience with? I already tried to help once and it takes weeks before this person has free time to give me their phone to try and fix it again.
It's not like this phone has different hardware from all the rest of the galaxy s 4g's and they are dependent on the phone. They should all work the same so it shouldn't be such a big deal to ask for some measly suggestions.

Daedalus_ said:
You guys really can't just tell me what works for you or what you had experience with? I already tried to help once and it takes weeks before this person has free time to give me their phone to try and fix it again.
It's not like this phone has different hardware from all the rest of the galaxy s 4g's and they are dependent on the phone. They should all work the same so it shouldn't be such a big deal to ask for some measly suggestions.
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Not everyone is going to get the same results from the same rom. It all depends on your usage.
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gregcapps said:
Not everyone is going to get the same results from the same rom. It all depends on your usage.
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Please state with reasons and what variables there are and what the tradeoffs are or you are talking out of your ass. Of course people's usages vary, but if you keep your usage constant while changing roms like you typically would or have a composite number than your can compare roms for battery life.
It's seriously not that hard to quantify which roms last longer on battery. This is ridiculous.

If it's that easy to you (may be?), do the testing and post the results. Document and publish your methodology so it can be peer reviewed. Please keep it up to date as ROMs are updated.
I look forward to your findings.
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I just told you that gingerbread roms have great battery life.

There is no definitive answer bro. I dont get the same battery life as jeffsf or FBis251 on AOKP. And neither one of them get the same battery life. It really does depend on each phone and the users habits of use.
Im going ahead and reporting this thread because the community here dislikes these threads. They never end well and you have POHR people being belligerent .

eollie said:
There is no definitive answer bro. I dont get the same battery life as jeffsf or FBis251 on AOKP. And neither one of them get the same battery life. It really does depend on each phone and the users habits of use.
Im going ahead and reporting this thread because the community here dislikes these threads. They never end well and you have POHR people being belligerent .
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As I've said before, usages vary but it's pretty reasonable to think that some people have used a few roms while keeping their usage constant. What makes it frustrating is that the people on this thread spew some faux wisdom that it's impossible to compare which it isn't.

I've had pretty good battery life so far with HebMIUI when it comes to ICS. Of course, GB ROMS such as Valhalla Final, Valhalla Black, and Octane are known for the excellent battery life.

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All of this is far too subjective. Try them and make your own decision.

[Q] Stock + GB or ROM?

Hi guys,
Thanks for all your help so far! Love this forum.
I'm pretty noob when it comes to Android customization, so I wanted your opinion: I'm trying to decide whether to run a stable, fast ROM, or simply stock with GravityBox and Franco Kernel.
Here are my considerations:
I'm not an advanced user, but I do use my phone a lot for work and personal things like email, browser, gps, videos, etc. Since I rely on it a lot, stability is pretty key. However, I get really bothered by some UI restrictions on stock (in particular non-customizable Quick Settings, non-customizable status/nav bars, and no PIE, but other small things count too). GravityBox is sufficient for the customization I need, but at this point speed and battery life come into consideration also. I wouldn't mind a longer battery since I use the phone pretty heavily. Speed is a consideration in that it would help me get things done faster.
So I guess my dilemma is whether I should use stock while relying on GB for customization and Franco kernel for battery efficiency, or if I should run a stable, fast ROM like SlimKat for the same purposes?

Xposed will slow things down so IMHO if a ROM has all your needs, use that.
That said I use a ROM and xposed
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rootSU said:
Xposed will slow things down so IMHO if a ROM has all your needs, use that.
That said I use a ROM and xposed
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Exactly. But even I prefer stock + GB
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Thanks for the replies guys. What ROM would you recommend for GB-like customization options, stability, and good battery life?

karabasdutapis said:
Hi guys,
Thanks for all your help so far! Love this forum.
I'm pretty noob when it comes to Android customization, so I wanted your opinion: I'm trying to decide whether to run a stable, fast ROM, or simply stock with GravityBox and Franco Kernel.
Here are my considerations:
I'm not an advanced user, but I do use my phone a lot for work and personal things like email, browser, gps, videos, etc. Since I rely on it a lot, stability is pretty key. However, I get really bothered by some UI restrictions on stock (in particular non-customizable Quick Settings, non-customizable status/nav bars, and no PIE, but other small things count too). GravityBox is sufficient for the customization I need, but at this point speed and battery life come into consideration also. I wouldn't mind a longer battery since I use the phone pretty heavily. Speed is a consideration in that it would help me get things done faster.
So I guess my dilemma is whether I should use stock while relying on GB for customization and Franco kernel for battery efficiency, or if I should run a stable, fast ROM like SlimKat for the same purposes?
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Yep, SlimKat, If stock Slim is missing a feature, about 50 people in that thread build their own Slim with some mods. One guy builds a version that has a DL/UL speed indication, L-style navbar buttons, and a bunch of other things.
Kernel, use Code_Blue. I prefer it over Franco. Just don't use the stock Slim kernel.

rahulpat13 said:
Exactly. But even I prefer stock + GB
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Stock ROM is awful IMHO.
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rootSU said:
Stock ROM is awful IMHO.
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Thats why we have slim rom

doctor_droid said:
Thats why we have slim rom
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Indeed. Even then I still add xposed though.
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I'll add my usual comment..... Lol
Roms have near nothing to do with battery life. It's setup and usage that make or break battery life.
Don't factor battery life into Rom decisions.... They're all the same. ?

KJ said:
I'll add my usual comment..... Lol
Roms have near nothing to do with battery life. It's setup and usage that make or break battery life.
Don't factor battery life into Rom decisions.... They're all the same. ?
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The only way a ROM can really affect battery is if a feature is designed poorly or there's a derp in the build..
But yeah, you can't really improve "ROM battery life", you can only make sure there aren't any problems which affect it negatively.

rootSU said:
Xposed will slow things down so IMHO if a ROM has all your needs, use that.
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Really? I have the stock ROM and xposed with six different modules and I haven't noticed a substantial performance difference. Perhaps it's one of the modules you have installed or maybe xposed doesn't play as well with your ROM as it does with stock?

BirchBarlow said:
Really? I have the stock ROM and xposed with six different modules and I haven't noticed a substantial performance difference. Perhaps it's one of the modules you have installed or maybe xposed doesn't play as well with your ROM as it does with stock?
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Xposed is always going to slow it down. The amount, however, is different for everyone.

KJ said:
I'll add my usual comment..... Lol
Roms have near nothing to do with battery life. It's setup and usage that make or break battery life.
Don't factor battery life into Rom decisions.... They're all the same. ?
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So what about things like Franco Kernel, which claims to slow down processor when not in use to conserve battery?
And thanks for the help guys. I flashed SlimKat for now and am so far pretty happy with it.

Lethargy said:
Xposed is always going to slow it down. The amount, however, is different for everyone.
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Currently m an exception . Only module m using is gb...and by far havent noticed any slowdown...

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Currently m an exception . Only module m using is gb...and by far havent noticed any slowdown...
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Might not be noticeable, or it might be obvious, it's still always going to slow it down overall. Different experience between different people.

karabasdutapis said:
So what about things like Franco Kernel, which claims to slow down processor when not in use to conserve battery?
And thanks for the help guys. I flashed SlimKat for now and am so far pretty happy with it.
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I've used every Rom and kernel almost and after setting each up how I regularly do, and with similar usage patterns always....my battery times were always similar.
I never play with the clock speeds I should add......but that's my experience. The roms or kernels I used made no real difference to my battery life.
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Yes I've seen lots of "claims"....And guess what, many believe them. ?

Most stable custom rom

What is the most stable custom rom for our phone (not smiui)
Cheers

The TS ones are all pretty good except ASOPA which is currently a little shaky (first build...) and here on XDA, the CM and RR builds are both based on the same source and are both very solid now. It's a little early to say on the new SlimRom build but from my initial testing it's superb. Best battery life I've seen so far and buttery smooth .
I'm on a Mi4S though so your mileage may differ

Late night typing nonsense. My apologies

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The TS ones are all pretty good except ASOPA which is currently a little shaky (first build...) and here on XDA, the CM and RR builds are both based on the same source and are both very solid now. It's a little early to say on the new SlimRom build but from my initial testing it's superb. Best battery life I've seen so far and buttery smooth .
I'm on a Mi4S though so your mileage may differ
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SlimRom on the mi4s has the best battery life? About how good? If I can ask. Also from my understanding you can flash any mi4c roms into the mi4s?
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SlimRom on the mi4s has the best battery life? About how good? If I can ask. Also from my understanding you can flash any mi4c roms into the mi4s?
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Yeah you can absolutely ask . I'm so keen on the slim build that I'm currently downloading today's build looking forward to testing it . The battery life (with some Pokemon go) still comfortably gets me through a day and around 3-4hrs SOT. Antutu scores sit around the 70k region so more than fast enough.
And no, you can't flash any mi4c rom to mi4s. You need to patch an assert in the updater file and sometimes they just won't boot anyway. AOSPA is a good example of one that doesn't work at all.
From my experience, Kumajaya CM is the most solid to date with superb support, RR is built directly off it with a heavier favouring of performance rather than battery. And slim is quite a middle ground. Fast but good battery too, downside is it's much newer so expect the odd issue.
Enjoy
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morgs640 said:
What is the most stable custom rom for our phone (not smiui)
Cheers
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I am satisfied with the Resurrection Remix on my aqua.

Wow, exciting news.
Is the Bluetooth bug gone on the SlimRom or any of the roms mentioned here? I mean the bug where bt just freezes and you have to reboot the phone or restart the service?

jonasb_dk said:
Wow, exciting news.
Is the Bluetooth bug gone on the SlimRom or any of the roms mentioned here? I mean the bug where bt just freezes and you have to reboot the phone or restart the service?
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No issues at all
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