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One Plus USB C flat cables

https://oneplus.net/type-c-cable Not a horrible price for the 150 cm at $6.99 I grabbed three myself.

fatboypup said:
https://oneplus.net/type-c-cable Not a horrible price for the 150 cm at $6.99 I grabbed three myself.
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Interesting deal those are quite the color

I hope they support fast charging. I bought 2 150cm and 1 100cm cables

Pilz said:
I hope they support fast charging. I bought 2 150cm and 1 100cm cables
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If you look at the USB-C pinout, I really doubt these support fast charging. These only have 4 pins for the USB 2.0 interface, I believe the 5W @ 3A is only possible via the cable bus power and ground since that delivery is unique to USB Type-C.

Skitals said:
If you look at the USB-C pinout, I really doubt these support fast charging. These only have 4 pins for the USB 2.0 interface, I believe the 5W @ 3A is only possible via the cable bus power and ground since that delivery is unique to USB Type-C.
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So you're saying it needs to be Type-C to Type-C for fast charging?

Pilz said:
I hope they support fast charging. I bought 2 150cm and 1 100cm cables
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It maxes out at 2A, and fast charge for the 6P is at 3A. It'll be charging at 2/3 the speed of fast charging.
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So you're saying it needs to be Type-C to Type-C for fast charging?
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AFAIK, that is true. I'm not electrical engineer though, only took the intro class to that major in freshman year...

kalookakoo said:
It maxes out at 2A, and fast charge for the 6P is at 3A. It'll be charging at 2/3 the speed of fast charging.
AFAIK, that is true. I'm not electrical engineer though, only took the intro class to that major in freshman year...
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I took an EE type course too but we never learned about pin set ups for cables lol. 2A is still good enough when I need a cable on he go

how much is shipping from OP?

Probably going to cancel my order then. I need the fast charging. Guess that means I need a new brick too then eh?
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Actually, it says in the product description that it delivers up to 2amps. Oops. Hope they get my ticket.

cm? This is 'Murica. Land of the free and home to the Google. How many inches/feet?

Although it may not matter much given a phone is obsolete in a year or two, I suspect charging at 2/3 or less would greatly extend battery life.

PaisanNYC said:
cm? This is 'Murica. Land of the free and home to the Google. How many inches/feet?
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Let me Google that...
About 5' cable.

rufflez2010 said:
Let me Google that...
About 5' cable.
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Thank you I just read it is only 2A though. But thanks again. I was tired of Googling metric measurements. When will the rest of the world catch up and start using the empirical system?

PaisanNYC said:
Thank you I just read it is only 2A though. But thanks again. I was tired of Googling metric measurements. When will the rest of the world catch up and start using the empirical system?
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. The world isn't ready for it. They need things to be base-10 for it to make sense.

I've ordered two of these, one of each size regardless of fast charge capabilities. I have so many regular USB-A chargers dotted all over the place that I might as well keep them useful. Plus the One Plus cables have a really good quality track record among their fans.
Also I tend to carry an extra cable with me with no charger for use in unexpected circumstances, and USB A ports are of course the most common available in a pinch. Simply practical to have extra C to A cables.
I might invest in an additional fast charger beyond what is supplied, once we have complete and precise clarification on how to maximize the 6P fast charging.

Awesome cables, I bought 5 because they're better than the offerings on Amazon while being easier to plug in, and perfectly compatible with my Macbook.

Mine came today

Definitely feels like quality cable

fatboypup said:
Definitely feels like quality cable
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Did you order directly from OP?

Pilz said:
Did you order directly from OP?
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Yes

Which of these USB Type C to A cables support fast charging? (Shopping on Amazon)

Which one of these cables support fast charging for the 6P?
I do not want to get new adapters so hopefully one of these cables are good enough
Thanks
1 - http://www.amazon.com/Yoozon®-Hi-sp...45399787&sr=8-3&keywords=usb+type+c+to+type+a
2 - http://www.amazon.com/Multi-Colour-...45399787&sr=8-4&keywords=usb+type+c+to+type+a
3 - http://www.amazon.com/iOrange-E-Bra...45399787&sr=8-7&keywords=usb+type+c+to+type+a
This one mentions this, Support the Maximum 2.4A fast charging and the speed of data sync up to 480 Mbps however I thought it needs to be 3A to support fast charging, if someone could please clarify, thanks
4 - http://www.amazon.com/NewLobo-1-met...45399787&sr=8-6&keywords=usb+type+c+to+type+a
5 - http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters...45399787&sr=8-8&keywords=usb+type+c+to+type+a
6 - http://www.amazon.com/JOTO-Standard...5399787&sr=8-11&keywords=usb+type+c+to+type+a

None of them will. You might get close to 2 amps if you are lucky, but no Type-A port will support Type-C fast charging. While cable quality matters, its more dependant on the load the phone can draw from the charger.
See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63220997&postcount=1

Continuing off what Elnrik said, you can still go ahead and buy yourself some generic quality USB A to USB C cables (see one plus cables for quality and value). You'll get pretty standard old charge rates through them but they are better than nothing in a pinch, for the time being, unless you want to replace all your old adapters.

I know you said Amazon, but Google sells an a to c cable capable of 5v/3a
https://store.google.com/product/usb_type_c_to_usb_standard_a_plug_cable
Currently out of stock though
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I am trying to find one as well that will do 3A/5W. So far I have found this one that according to the description will do it.
http://www.amazon.com/Rankie®-Hi-sp...29503&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=usb-c+cable&psc=1

heleos said:
I know you said Amazon, but Google sells an a to c cable capable of 5v/3a
https://store.google.com/product/usb_type_c_to_usb_standard_a_plug_cable
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I really don't know what Google are playing at with the spec for that cable. There's no way in the world a USB Type-A 2.0 cable can deliver 3A. You absolutely need Type-C end to end to achieve that.
If I'm wrong, I'm gonna look like a right chump. But I haven't been ravenously soaking up info on this topic for nothing!

krazyq said:
Which one of these cables support fast charging for the 6P?
I do not want to get new adapters so hopefully one of these cables are good enough
Thanks
1 - http://www.amazon.com/Yoozon®-Hi-sp...45399787&sr=8-3&keywords=usb+type+c+to+type+a
2 - http://www.amazon.com/Multi-Colour-...45399787&sr=8-4&keywords=usb+type+c+to+type+a
3 - http://www.amazon.com/iOrange-E-Bra...45399787&sr=8-7&keywords=usb+type+c+to+type+a
This one mentions this, Support the Maximum 2.4A fast charging and the speed of data sync up to 480 Mbps however I thought it needs to be 3A to support fast charging, if someone could please clarify, thanks
4 - http://www.amazon.com/NewLobo-1-met...45399787&sr=8-6&keywords=usb+type+c+to+type+a
5 - http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters...45399787&sr=8-8&keywords=usb+type+c+to+type+a
6 - http://www.amazon.com/JOTO-Standard...5399787&sr=8-11&keywords=usb+type+c+to+type+a
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With the Nexus 6P, none of them. It is not the cable, but the 6P that is the culprit. All those cables will actually support 5V/3A. For some bizarre reason, Google designed the charging system in the 6P around the Type C spec (the spec for a connector) and not around the USB Power Delivery Spec, but then used the configuration channel in USB Type C which eliminates the possibility of using Type A to Type C for putting 5V/3A into the 6P. Even Apple respects USB Power Delivery in the MacBook Pro.
I think Google's mistake (or at least foolish decision) will become apparent next year when the next Nexus phones (and a lot of other laptops, tablets and phones) have Type C, but not 5V/3A and instead support more standard power like 5V/2A and 12V/1.5A. There is a reason Qualcom chose those 2 combinations for Quick Charge 2.0. They didn't pull them out of their butt like Google.
To me, not having the device in my hands, is the biggest single disappointment with the phone. Don't get me wrong, even 5V/1.5A is decent power for charging a phone. Guess the other disappointment also centers around the implementation of Type C and not allowing HDMI via the Type C connector which it was expressly designed to do.

dwswager said:
With the Nexus 6P, none of them. It is not the cable, but the 6P that is the culprit. All those cables will actually support 5V/3A. For some bizarre reason, Google designed the charging system in the 6P around the Type C spec (the spec for a connector) and not around the USB Power Delivery Spec, but then used the configuration channel in USB Type C which eliminates the possibility of using Type A to Type C for putting 5V/3A into the 6P. Even Apple respects USB Power Delivery in the MacBook Pro.
I think Google's mistake (or at least foolish decision) will become apparent next year when the next Nexus phones (and a lot of other laptops, tablets and phones) have Type C, but not 5V/3A and instead support more standard power like 5V/2A and 12V/1.5A. There is a reason Qualcom chose those 2 combinations for Quick Charge 2.0. They didn't pull them out of their butt like Google.
To me, not having the device in my hands, is the biggest single disappointment with the phone. Don't get me wrong, even 5V/1.5A is decent power for charging a phone. Guess the other disappointment also centers around the implementation of Type C and not allowing HDMI via the Type C connector which it was expressly designed to do.
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Wow super lame...
So I'm going to have to buy new type adapters
(wall and car charger) and new type c to c cables?
I have the Moto X Pure right and the only reason I'm getting the 6P is cos of the battery and camera which I'm hoping to be better.

Snarklife said:
I really don't know what Google are playing at with the spec for that cable. There's no way in the world a USB Type-A 2.0 cable can deliver 3A. You absolutely need Type-C end to end to achieve that.
If I'm wrong, I'm gonna look like a right chump. But I haven't been ravenously soaking up info on this topic for nothing!
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I would tend to agree with you, and the other people that have researched the actual USB spec, but I feel like it's this was an error, they would realize it quickly and change it. The hire some smaht people at Google
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Snarklife said:
I really don't know what Google are playing at with the spec for that cable. There's no way in the world a USB Type-A 2.0 cable can deliver 3A. You absolutely need Type-C end to end to achieve that.
If I'm wrong, I'm gonna look like a right chump. But I haven't been ravenously soaking up info on this topic for nothing!
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Don't confuse the cable's capability to handle 3A with what the SPEC allows. A Type A to Type C cable can actually handle 3A. Both connectors can do it. Even a Micro B can do 3A. The Spec does not support it. And here is the big issue. The spec, both original and the newer ones including USB-PD are set up for simultaneous power and data. For a charger, we are only worried with power and data speed/corruption is not an issue.
USB PD allows 60W (20V/3A) through micro B and100W (20V/5A) through standard A and B. It requires specially 'marked' cables which will be a little beefier than standard 2.0 cables. But the connectors can handle it.

So what is the solution?
Get new car and wall chargers only usb type c cables?

Okay, this is interesting. So, if the cable and both the A and C connectors can both handle 5/3, could you plug this cable into a block that pushes out 5/3 via a female A port and achieve maximum charge velocity?
That goes against what so many have said - that you need C to C - but I'd be delighted to hear it.

EDIT: Just saw @dwswager's post. What he said.
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USB TYPE-A has standards not specs, limitations are grounded in physics not words and it is possible for a USB type A to deliver 3A with lower Ohms at 5v with the right power adapter/hub.
USB 2.0 refers to Data rates not charge rates.
Bonus: 3A 5V is one of the Quick Charge Class A power standards for C to C even if 6P isnt yet certified for it. Could be Google pushing for an A to C 3A to 5V Quick Charge USB Class?
Snarklife said:
I really don't know what Google are playing at with the spec for that cable. There's no way in the world a USB Type-A 2.0 cable can deliver 3A. You absolutely need Type-C end to end to achieve that.
If I'm wrong, I'm gonna look like a right chump. But I haven't been ravenously soaking up info on this topic for nothing!
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heleos said:
I would tend to agree with you, and the other people that have researched the actual USB spec, but I feel like it's this was an error, they would realize it quickly and change it. The hire some smaht people at Google
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I think the conversation over USB "specs" has been misconstrued. What people are looking at are USB standards. Standards are not limits. They are heavily optimized guidelines for creating compatibility and uniformity with as many devices as possible and to protect as many devices as possible from accidental burnout.
USB 2.0 Data rate does not prevent a USB A port from having a 3.1 or similar charging configuration.
As is already clear, Google is not following USB charging standards of any kind with the 6P and noted by @dwswager.
It is entirely possibly to throw 3a INTO a USB A standard cable; ampere limitation isnt the problem USB 3.1 standards for USB A do it perfectly fine but at 3a 12v(4ohm), which is a higher ohm set up than with 3a 5v(1.67ohm). We also know that USB 3.1 standards allow for 2a 5v (2.5ohm), which is even closer to the 3a 5v set up. .The standards are set at those points because the lower the ohms the great the heat created, think of it like a welder, or a sub-ohm vaporizer.
Note that the size of the USB 3.1 pin size don't change due to the change in ohms. What is likely changing is the conducting material and size of the transmission wire.
Most 2a 5v cables run cool because the cable is a 2.5ohm resistance cable and its getting fed precisely 2a, as very carefully designed, which then makes that cable a "5v" (2.5ohm x 2a) cable. A 3a 5v cable would hence need to have a lower resistance of 1.67ohm, which is higher conduction, likely from a more optimized conduit throughout.
The cable can exist under Huawei/ Google's unique of standard setup.
Thing is, nobody as part of the USB standards have ever said you CANNOT put 3a through a USB Type A, but also nobody outside of chinese ebay sales sell anything with USB A that puts out 3a at 5v right now (Google for it, they exist. Wouldn't recommend buying one).
Bonus from Google CS (Source: http://www.droid-life.com/2015/10/19/nexus-6p-nexus-5x-quick-charge/#comment-2315607310):
"Currently, the Nexus 6P isn't listed on Qualcomm's list of devices
that have been tested and certified to be compatible with Qualcomm Quick Charge
2.0 chargers, so I can't say with 100% certainty yet. This is something that can
change the longer the Nexus 6P is out on the market and is tested for
compatibility and interoperability."
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Snarklife said:
Okay, this is interesting. So, if the cable and both the A and C connectors can both handle 5/3, could you plug this cable into a block that pushes out 5/3 via a female A port and achieve maximum charge velocity?
That goes against what so many have said - that you need C to C - but I'd be delighted to hear it.
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Turns out electrical engineering and understanding takes more than misconstruing USB standards as specs.

theTqM said:
Turns out electrical engineering and understanding takes more than misconstruing USB standards as specs.
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I have been fighting this corner since the day of the announcement, I am glad to hear someone else say it. There is absolutely nothing about USB Type-C that has any effect on wall chargers and the amount of current it can draw, and equally nothing stopping Type-A from providing aforementioned current / voltage. What it needs its a cable that can handle it (like the offical Google one), and a wall charger that will provide it, simple as that.

vido.ardes said:
I have been fighting this corner since the day of the announcement, I am glad to hear someone else say it. There is absolutely nothing about USB Type-C that has any effect on wall chargers and the amount of current it can draw, and equally nothing stopping Type-A from providing aforementioned current / voltage. What it needs its a cable that can handle it (like the offical Google one), and a wall charger that will provide it, simple as that.
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Thank God! Realism
If under USB-PD Profile 5, Type A can handle 20V/5A, why people think it can't handle 5V/3A is a mystery. The question has been will the phone accept it with an undetectable (to the Type C device) Type A to Type C cable by the 6P. The answer appears to be yes it can.

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Thank God! Realism
If under USB-PD Profile 5, Type A can handle 20V/5A, why people think it can't handle 5V/3A is a mystery. The question has been will the phone accept it with an undetectable (to the Type C device) Type A to Type C cable by the 6P. The answer appears to be yes it can.
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I've bought the cable I linked to from Google (it has already turned up) and I have bought a car charger that claims to output 3A/5V so I will be testing as soon as my device turns up. The car charger wasn't cheap, but it has been rebranded a lot so it's 50/50 as to whether or not it will hold up to it's claim. It has a type-C port as well so I can at least check they output the same.

@vido.ardes @dwswager. If what I quoted earlier from G CS is correct and the Nexus 6P hopefully-perhaps-maybe gets certified by Qualcomm for Quick Charge, and google updates the kernel to enable it then we'll have the entire world of Qualcomm certified 3A Quick Chargers at our disposal. Its a hope.

theTqM said:
@vido.ardes @dwswager. If what I quoted earlier from G CS is correct and the Nexus 6P hopefully-perhaps-maybe gets certified by Qualcomm for Quick Charge, and google updates the kernel to enable it then we'll have the entire world of Qualcomm certified 3A Quick Chargers at our disposal. Its a hope.
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Not sure how it would get certified. QC 2.0 takes an extra chip in the device and the 810 SOC is not QC3.0 certified.

dwswager said:
Not sure how it would get certified. QC 2.0 takes an extra chip in the device and the 810 SOC is not QC3.0 certified.
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You're right regarding QC 3.0.. however:
Check out the 5x teardown.. it has a QC 2.0 quick charge chip: http://9to5google.com/2015/10/22/nexus-5x-teardown-repairability/
Chances that the 6P has the same.. high...

theTqM said:
You're right regarding QC 3.0.. however:
Check out the 5x teardown.. it has a QC 2.0 quick charge chip: http://9to5google.com/2015/10/22/nexus-5x-teardown-repairability/
Chances that the 6P has the same.. high...
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That's interesting!
All this charging crap could have been avoided if Google would have just spent 30 seconds explaining it. I suspect that they used Type C and designed the circuit to take 3A and wanted to call that fast charging without having to actually implement a fast charging solution.
If I had the 6P in my hands I would get a few chargers:
Google Captive (5V/3A)
A Type C 5V/3A
A Type A 5V/3A (or the ASUS Transformer charger with micro B and a micro B to C adapter.
A 5V/1A charger.
Then with phone less than 10% charged plug them in and check the current draw. All of them should be somewhere close to the Nominal rated current output.
Then with the phone above 90% charged, plug them up again and they all should be drawing about the same current because the current draw should be well below the rated current of all the chargers.

Cables or adapters for USB C

Little confused on what I need for my new phone coming Friday. Obviously, I have a host of Micro USB cables that I'd like to be able to use with my new phone. I assume there must be some adapter that is recommended.
I also need a cable to run from an Anker charger to my new phone.
Thanks!

Confused or not you really should spend some time reading through the other threads that are already here.
The situation has started to clear up quite a bit but all the info is already here.

I started to read through one of the threads but I just got more confused. Lots of talk about what wouldn't work and the one plus one cables being bad.
I'd be happy to research more on my own, if you could point me in the direction of a quality thread or post.
Thanks

Essentially, some companies are producing USB Type-A to USB Type-C cables that don't meet the standards set out by the USB Consortium (made up of Google, Apple, and many other tech companies). These cables that don't meet the specification could allow a device (such as your phone) to try to pull too much current from a charger, USB port, or USB hub and thus damage them. Worst case scenario, they cause a charger to overheat and start a fire!
SO, your best bet is to buy USB Type-A to USB Type-C cables directly from Google or any of the cables Benson Leung (a Google engineer) has reviewed highly. It doesn't matter if they're USB 2.0, 3.0, or 3.1 as the Nexus 6P only supports the slower USB 2.0 speeds and it's all compatible!

Are there any certified adapters or recommendations on something that converts a Micro USB end to a Type-C end? I'd prefer to just extend the cables I already have rather than replace them.

I sadly have not seen a verified adapter yet. You could take a chance on buying some that haven't been disqualified and test them with this app, and return them if they fail. Otherwise, some people are keeping track of verified accessories on this spreadsheet and someone might find good adapters.

Ewto16 said:
Are there any certified adapters or recommendations on something that converts a Micro USB end to a Type-C end? I'd prefer to just extend the cables I already have rather than replace them.
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I looked through his profile and all of the reviews he's done and none of the adapters have met specifications. You might be better off going with cables instead of adapters.

Thanks you were both very helpful!

All this info above is true. But just an FYI I've had my phone for about a month and only used the micro USB to c adapters (other than a couple times to test with the googled one ) since my case I got had the port too small for the Google charger to fit through and I've never had any issues. The charger or phone doesn't get any hotter or warmer. The phone does charge slower than the Google charger, but that's because the power adapters I'm using are about 1500mah bricks.

Just wanted to chime in that I was not able to get any of my microusb OTG cables working using an adapter. (2 different microusb F to usb-C M adapters purchased through Aliexpress) Perhaps I was just unlucky, though.
They seem to work for connecting to a computer. I also see videos from XDA's youtube channel where they use one of those adapters for connecting a 6p to a computer.
Strangely, one of the adapters shows that it's compliant through the aforementioned app!

The cables/adapters that are out of specification can work fine; but it all depends on how your devices, chargers, and hubs handle the incorrect cable. While you might get lucky and it'll work fine, you might also get unlucky!
Why take a chance? And why support companies that don't follow the rules?

BillyTheRatKing said:
Why take a chance? And why support companies that don't follow the rules?
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This.
It also baffles me why people are so willing to shell out $500+ for a new phone, but scream bloody murder when having to pay a little more for compliant cables / adapters / chargers.

Elnrik said:
This.
It also baffles me why people are so willing to shell out $500+ for a new phone, but scream bloody murder when having to pay a little more for compliant cables / adapters / chargers.
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While I went for the certified cables, most complain because we're spending 10+ on a cable we're used to buying for 4 or 5 bucks... For the longer cord.
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Elnrik said:
This.
It also baffles me why people are so willing to shell out $500+ for a new phone, but scream bloody murder when having to pay a little more for compliant cables / adapters / chargers.
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Yes you have a valid point except that there are no certified adapters yet as far as I know. Which means for someone like me it's not about money, but it's about being able to use micro USB still since practically every other devices I have uses that still. Ie tablet, controllers, remotes.

frigidazzi said:
Yes you have a valid point except that there are no certified adapters yet as far as I know. Which means for someone like me it's not about money, but it's about being able to use micro USB still since practically every other devices I have uses that still. Ie tablet, controllers, remotes.
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So it about not wanting to carry 1 extra cable? I don't see that being a big deal at all.

Pilz said:
So it about not wanting to carry 1 extra cable? I don't see that being a big deal at all.
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We all have different scenarios. I like to have at minimum a charger in car, bedroom, living room, computer desk, bathroom with shower, work, kitchen and battery pack in backpack. I'm not carrying around an extra cable for each place.

frigidazzi said:
We all have different scenarios. I like to have at minimum a charger in car, bedroom, living room, computer desk, bathroom with shower, work, kitchen and battery pack in backpack. I'm not carrying around an extra cable for each place.
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I know where you are coming from, that's one of the reasons why I sold all of my mirco USB phones/tablets (my Nexus 6 and Shield Tablet LTE). I have 1 good USB-A to USB-C cable 2 USB C-C wall chargers, and a USB C battery pack along with 4 C-C cables.

Sill looking for good replacement USB C wall chargers. Anybody got a lock on some good quality ones?

ucisilentbob said:
Sill looking for good replacement USB C wall chargers. Anybody got a lock on some good quality ones?
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I have a feeling that the Google chargers will be the best quality ones you can get. I have both of the Google chargers - the single port and dual port - and have had great results with both.
I saw a few type c chargers from chotech on amazon.com the other day. No clue if they are any good though.

Ewto16 said:
Little confused on what I need for my new phone coming Friday. Obviously, I have a host of Micro USB cables that I'd like to be able to use with my new phone. I assume there must be some adapter that is recommended.
I also need a cable to run from an Anker charger to my new phone.
Thanks!
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Please refer to these 2 OP's for certified Type-C and Type-A to Type-C cables and discussion:
1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/accessories/usb-type-c-cables-reviewed-google-t3240861
2.http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/accessories/benson-leung-verified-usb-c-cables-t3245685

No quickcharge 3.0 supprot. Is that a big deal?

So this says no quickcharge 3.0. Can't say I'm not disappointed. Time is money...
http://androidandme.com/2016/03/new...-not-have-qualcomms-quick-charge-3-0/?ref=yfp

Disappointed because I bought a QC3.0 charger before the manual stating it only supported QC2.0 was released.

From the link:-
Quick Charge 3.0 isn’t that much faster: Yes, we all want the latest and greatest technology, but Quick Charge 3.0 isn’t that much faster than Quick Charge 2.0.
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A non-issue. So it might take an extra 20-30 minutes to go from 15% to 100%. No big deal unless you choose to make it one in your head. It's not as if we're talking hours here.

It would of been nice to have but no, it's not a big issue. I also would of loved to usb type c, but hey, still a great phone none-the-less.

shadow82x said:
It would of been nice to have but no, it's not a big issue. I also would of loved to usb type c, but hey, still a great phone none-the-less.
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With all of the issues with usb-c cables, I'm kind of glad they didn't go usb-c myself.
No real advantage besides a few mins saved charging (and hopefully not frying your device with a miswired usb-c cable you borrowed from a buddy or bought at an airport becasue you forgot yours.)
https://asia.cnet.com/news/usb-type-c-cable-problems/

I dont see it as a big issue, I will try to avoid the quick charging if I'm not in a hurry since it shortens(?) the life of the battery

Personally I think the lack of usb-c and QC 3.0 are a big deal. This is a premium handset and will be for the next year. There is absolutely no excuse for samsung to cheap out on these two things. I also bought a new car charger thinking Samsung would support QC 3.0 so could of saved myself £10 as my current S6 car charger would of done the job.

Cant keep all the whingers happy can they

Heard the Edge lasts about 1.5 to 2 days with regular use. And with the phones charging full in less than an hour it should be fine.

I personally think that Samsung kept the micro USB port due to either or both of the following possibilities:
1. Their Exynos chipset was not ready for USB 3.0 yet, even if Qualcomm was.
2. They had tons of unsold Gear VR devices and they couldn't afford to release a new Gear VR with USB-C port. Now that they gave them for free with the pre-orders, they are free to work on USB-C devices.

Cst79 said:
I personally think that Samsung kept the micro USB port due to either or both of the following possibilities:
1. Their Exynos chipset was not ready for USB 3.0 yet, even if Qualcomm was.
2. They had tons of unsold Gear VR devices and they couldn't afford to release a new Gear VR with USB-C port. Now that they gave them for free with the pre-orders, they are free to work on USB-C devices.
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Samsung basically said that they didn't use USB-C cause Gear VR uses micro USB and they didn't want to disappoint the people who bought it a few months ago.

Travis Bickle said:
Samsung basically said that they didn't use USB-C cause Gear VR uses micro USB and they didn't want to disappoint the people who bought it a few months ago.
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Bit of a cop out when you consider a decent micro usb lead can be bought for a couple of quid though.

Beefheart said:
From the link:-
A non-issue. So it might take an extra 20-30 minutes to go from 15% to 100%. No big deal unless you choose to make it one in your head. It's not as if we're talking hours here.
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From what I've read, QC 3.0 doesn't offer much of an improvement over QC 2.0, but is just more efficient allowing more voltage steps than what QC 2.0 offers.

Wouldn't have wanted to buy new chargers or adapts for work car home battery pack ect. Hope there isn't any port soon so it's all wireless.

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Bit of a cop out when you consider a decent micro usb lead can be bought for a couple of quid though.
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There's no room inside the VR unit to connect a cord.
I'm just as happy to keep micro USB for one more generation. The advantages aren't that significant, and I have plenty of good existing cables I won't need to replace.
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Beefheart said:
From the link:-
A non-issue. So it might take an extra 20-30 minutes to go from 15% to 100%. No big deal unless you choose to make it one in your head. It's not as if we're talking hours here.
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Probably not even that much difference.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=difference+between+type+c+vs

0-50% in 30min. Pretty good for me

USB-A to C vs. Straight USB-C Charging Rates

I was curious, since I have quite a few USB-A Quick Charge 2.0 chargers, if there is any advantage to using a USB-C charger and cable, over a USB-A Charger with an A to C Cable?
I have compared the factory charger with several of my aftermarket QC 2.0 chargers/Cables and I get pretty much the same rate with both. Using the Ampere app I was able to get 1030 mA on both the Factory Samsung Charger/Cable and the aftermarket QC 2.0 Chargers/Cables (Anker and Aukey Brands).
Has anyone invested in a USB-C Charger/Cable that they could see if the Note 7 takes advantage of the higher Voltage/Amp of the USB-C platform?
Just wondering if it is worth it to step up the the USB-C Charger/Cable combination, since I already have quite a few QC 2.0 (USB-A) Chargers...
Just for reference I was getting ~540 mA charging rate using a couple different Standard Qi Wireless chargers. I guess the same question could be asked about the Qi Rapid Chargers, has anybody measured the charging rate with Ampere for a comparison?

You don't get fast charging with usb c to usb c. Not sure why.

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You don't get fast charging with usb c to usb c. Not sure why.
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I am guessing you are referring to the International version (Exynos 8890) vs. the US Version (Snapdragon 820)? I am specifically interested in the US version since the specs do say it supports the USB 3.1 Standard, vs. the International one that only supports usb 2.0 specs. Although it is nice to know about the Int'l version as well.

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I am guessing you are referring to the International version (Exynos 8890) vs. the US Version (Snapdragon 820)? I am specifically interested in the US version since the specs do say it supports the USB 3.1 Standard, vs. the International one that only supports usb 2.0 specs. Although it is nice to know about the Int'l version as well.
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Nope I own the sd820 version on Verizon. My charger that used to fast charge my 6p does not fast charge my note 7.

i could be wrong but it seems like the note 7 charges slower than my note 4 (edge)

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i could be wrong but it seems like the note 7 charges slower than my note 4 (edge)
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Note 7 does have a larger mah battery than the Note 4 edge so I'm sure that plays a factor.

aznmode said:
Note 7 does have a larger mah battery than the Note 4 edge so I'm sure that plays a factor.
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not by much yes but the note Edge (3220mAh) is charged in a hour to hour in a half the note 7 (3,500mAh) 2-3 hrs the note 7 battery life is good as hell though but takes longer to charge like a none fast charge rate but is fast charge but it never gets hot so maybe thermal controls?

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Nope I own the sd820 version on Verizon. My charger that used to fast charge my 6p does not fast charge my note 7.
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Bummer, I was hoping it would take advantage of the USB 3.1 Standards.
Thanks for the reply.
I guess listing USB 3.1 in the specs doesn't really mean much...

kench33 said:
Nope I own the sd820 version on Verizon. My charger that used to fast charge my 6p does not fast charge my note 7.
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Bummer, I was hoping it would take advantage of the USB 3.1 Standards.
Thanks for the reply.
I guess listing USB 3.1 in the specs doesn't really mean much...

excalfirst said:
Bummer, I was hoping it would take advantage of the USB 3.1 Standards.
Thanks for the reply.
I guess listing USB 3.1 in the specs doesn't really mean much...
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Maybe it has something to do with the charger itself? Not sure, but if anyone is willing to give this combination a try. Curious myself.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IBESEB8/
And one of these
https://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/w...ref=pdp_new_wl

excalfirst said:
Bummer, I was hoping it would take advantage of the USB 3.1 Standards.
Thanks for the reply.
I guess listing USB 3.1 in the specs doesn't really mean much...
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Something you should keep in mind is that USB 3.0 is Type-C as well. 3.1 is just a update spec for it.
If you’ve been paying attention to the world of USB, you may have heard of the announcements of USB 3.1 and USB Type-C. But what’s the difference? Which one do you need? And how are they different from USB 3.0 or even 2.0? Let’s break it down.
What is USB Type-C?
Over the years, the USB connection has taken on many forms. The rectangular port you’re most familiar is called USB Type-A. The blocky, almost square port used in many large peripherals like printers is USB Type-B. Add micro and mini versions of each of these into the fold and suddenly you’ve got a half dozen connection type and a recipe for confusion.
One thing to note, because announcements of Type-C connections have come hand in hand with USB 3.1, many people assume they’re the same, or at the very least that all Type-C runs on the 3.1 spec. This is not the case. Remember, Type-C is the connection type and may actually run on a lesser spec – USB 2.0 even – so don’t assume you’ll be getting all that 3.1 goodness just because you see that tiny reversible port.
What is USB 3.1?
USB Type-A and a USB Type C side-by-side in harmony
USB 3.1 (aka USB 3.1/gen 2) is the successor to USB 3.0. Identifiable by its bright turquois port, USB 3.1 doubles the transfer speed of 3.0 to a whopping 10 Gbps. USB Power Delivery 2.0 makes a big step forward as well with up to 100W of power. And like previous versions of USB, it is fully backwards compatible with its predecessors.
Source: http://www.velocitymicro.com/blog/usb-3-1-vs-usb-type-c-vs-usb-3-0-whats-the-difference/
According to Phone Arena it's USB Type-C Spec 3.1 Gen 1
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-7_id10024

DeadPhoenix said:
Something you should keep in mind is that USB 3.0 is Type-C as well. 3.1 is just a update spec for it.
If you’ve been paying attention to the world of USB, you may have heard of the announcements of USB 3.1 and USB Type-C. But what’s the difference? Which one do you need? And how are they different from USB 3.0 or even 2.0? Let’s break it down.
What is USB Type-C?
Over the years, the USB connection has taken on many forms. The rectangular port you’re most familiar is called USB Type-A. The blocky, almost square port used in many large peripherals like printers is USB Type-B. Add micro and mini versions of each of these into the fold and suddenly you’ve got a half dozen connection type and a recipe for confusion.
One thing to note, because announcements of Type-C connections have come hand in hand with USB 3.1, many people assume they’re the same, or at the very least that all Type-C runs on the 3.1 spec. This is not the case. Remember, Type-C is the connection type and may actually run on a lesser spec – USB 2.0 even – so don’t assume you’ll be getting all that 3.1 goodness just because you see that tiny reversible port.
What is USB 3.1?
USB Type-A and a USB Type C side-by-side in harmony
USB 3.1 (aka USB 3.1/gen 2) is the successor to USB 3.0. Identifiable by its bright turquois port, USB 3.1 doubles the transfer speed of 3.0 to a whopping 10 Gbps. USB Power Delivery 2.0 makes a big step forward as well with up to 100W of power. And like previous versions of USB, it is fully backwards compatible with its predecessors.
Source: http://www.velocitymicro.com/blog/usb-3-1-vs-usb-type-c-vs-usb-3-0-whats-the-difference/
According to Phone Arena it's USB Type-C Spec 3.1 Gen 1
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-7_id10024
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I was familiar with the excellent recap of the USB standards you posted. Thanks for posting since others may not be familiar.
So, When a vendor lists a spec such as USB 3.1 it only means it supports that specific data rate and the voltage that it charges at, is up to the vendor? I have read that the USB 3.0 and 3.1 specs are identical in the supported voltages. But I would guess that as far as supported voltages go, in the USB specs, it is totally up to the vendor as to which rates they choose to use. It just seems odd to me that you can actually charge faster with USB-A 2.0 "Rapid Charge" than with USB-C straight up.

excalfirst said:
I was familiar with the excellent recap of the USB standards you posted. Thanks for posting since others may not be familiar.
So, When a vendor lists a spec such as USB 3.1 it only means it supports that specific data rate and the voltage that it charges at, is up to the vendor? I have read that the USB 3.0 and 3.1 specs are identical in the supported voltages. But I would guess that as far as supported voltages go, in the USB specs, it is totally up to the vendor as to which rates they choose to use. It just seems odd to me that you can actually charge faster with USB-A 2.0 "Rapid Charge" than with USB-C straight up.
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I have read of 5.0v and 2.3v versions of 3.0 and 3.1. This may be a manufacturer design option. Type, power and speed specification.