This device acts very, very odd. It seems that whenever an app is installed from the play store, its default move is to block every permission that app may have. It doesn't even prompt. So I have to go in to the permission manager every time I install a new app and "trust" it. Is there any way to just disable this permission software and go back to the way aosp marshmallow asks for permissions upon installing apps?
Also, I keep setting my default mms app to Google messenger, and literally every reboot it reverts back to the stock messages app.
Lastly, is there any way to have the hold home and swipe up function changed back to context search instead of this Chinese search app that is useless to my non Chinese speaking self?
Im sure ill have more to ask soon. Very odd acting phone indeed.
Have similar issues myself with this, even though I have driven apps permission they don't always work especially emails when the screen is off. I have been over and over the settings but just can't seem to get it fully right
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Deafcyclist said:
I'm using the latest XDANDROID on my AT&T Tilt2 (Rhodium) and i just simply can't seem to be able to keep it uninstalled. when i try to uninstall it, it seemed like it is indeed uninstalled but every time i reboot and go into XDANDROID, it's back there.
I do not need the extra features. I just generally prefer the simplistic default message function that android already have.
I've only started using android for a few days so far so if i've missed something simple, i apologize in advance. Likewise, if someone could help me with this, I thank you in advance
P.S. I've tried the search function and i just couldn't find anything about uninstalling handcent SMS rather than uninstalling the default messages.
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How did you try and uninstall it? Was it through Settings-> Applications, etc, or was it with an unistalling app?
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Deafcyclist said:
I tried it via setting--> application and a app called aTrackDog. everytime i tried to uninstall it, it was rather quick so i'm assuming that it is only uninstalling a few files and the handcent sms is fixing it every reboot.
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Hmmm, well I would try to install it again, and install an uninstaller called Apex, just search for that, its the first one to come up. If Apex doesn't work, and if another regular uninstall through settings doesn't work, then I would leave it, or wipe your phone again if it bothers you too much to have it.
Remember you can just turn Handcent notifications off and turn on the default notifications, set all the messaging to the default messenger and you'll never even know it was there. But I would try to reinstall then uninstall with both of those methods. Let us know how it goes.
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Deafcyclist said:
i've upgraded handcent from 2.9.29 to 2.9.30 to 'reinstall' it and then used aTrackDog to remove it. it seemed to work perfectly well. so I've went ahead and rebooted to see if it persisted. it didn't. i now have Handcent SMS 2.9.29 still on and that Apex software is buggy since it didn't detect handcent and a number of other apps on it.
gonna try to figure out how to disable Handcent SMS notification and see if it persist. I don't neccessarly have to reset my phone since the XDANDROID is running purely from my microSD (using HARET).
Handcent SMS is really really annoying for me now cause I still have to go into the default SMS client for the notification for that to stop. I'm essientally having double notication for every messages i'm getting.
P.S. I've just noticed that these other apps are also persisting too despite my effort to uninstall them;
Digital Rain
Hero Clocks
Live Wallpaper Picker
Starfield
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Well, I'm unfamiliar with the inner workings of Xdandroid and why it wouldn't be uninstalling the apps you don't want, but I'm very familiar with Handcent. So to turn of the notifications, open Handcent and on the screen with all of your conversations press the wrench in the top right. Then go down to Notifications and uncheck the "Display message notifications in status bar" This will stop you from getting double notifications. If you wanted to use Handcent and turn off the notifications in the default, open the default with the conversations listed, go to menu, then settings, and the same thing - uncheck the notifications button.
Perhaps after you uninstall the apps, there is something on your SD card that could be making it still be there. Maybe uninstall the app then mount your SD and do a computer search over your sd for anything dealing with Handcent, or whatever app and delete it. I'm sorry I can't be of more help, hopefully someone else using Xdandroid can give some insight.
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Hi everyone, ever since the update, my apps stop running in the background when I close the app. Example: I don't get Whatsapp notifications anymore unless I open the app and keep it open. If I close all open apps, I will no longer receive any of the notifications for any of them.
I went into the battery settings disabled battery saver mode but that didn't do anything.
I would appreciate any help you could provide.
DominionChamber said:
Hi everyone, ever since the update, my apps stop running in the background when I close the app. Example: I don't get Whatsapp notifications anymore unless I open the app and keep it open. If I close all open apps, I will no longer receive any of the notifications for any of them.
I went into the battery settings disabled battery saver mode but that didn't do anything.
I would appreciate any help you could provide.
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It's apparently one of the issues with the latest OTA update, where closing all running apps will terminate the background processes associated with the apps closed. Prior to the update and the Close All button being added to the recent apps list, I don't think it had this problem (I don't use Whatsapp, but my Skype and Discord notifications still come through even if I don't have them on my recent apps list).
This is a little frustrating. Noticed that I wasn't getting any notifications from tasker, pushover, textra, hangouts, inbox and etc.
Also noticed that pushover will not update unless it is off of wifi. All my other devices receive notifications on this wifi. IE nothing blocked.
I have had to open all the programs that I want to receive notifications from, open. Not the best work around.
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I noticed that on occasion there will be small text under the new button that says "long press to set up apps that could run in the background" I do it but it doesn't seem to do anything, maybe free up some of the RAM but that's about it. I'm wondering if there is a bug and if it's supposed to show something.
Has anyone else tried the long press?
As of now all I do is keep a folder on the desktop labeled background apps. It helps big time when I accidentally tap the close all button. But my solution as of now is to keep things open that don't seem to work in the background. I've been experimenting with what works and it seems like in some recent app updates they begin to work without being open. I know for sure that facebook and now facebook messenger work without being open, as well as some google services. I have a memory clearer app that I use when I'm not using my phone so it clears whatever it can without killing the apps. But that's what I have as of now, trial and error to figure out what I need to leave open and what I can close. And I strongly recommend the folder, I have had many times where I accidentally close everything and forget what I had to leave open.
It's a bummer though, I just bought the phone and then this update came out. Kinda kills the excitement of getting a new awesome phone if I have to deal with this frustration :/ Other than that, it's definately a nice step up from a Samsung S4.
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I noticed that on occasion there will be small text under the new button that says "long press to set up apps that could run in the background" I do it but it doesn't seem to do anything, maybe free up some of the RAM but that's about it. I'm wondering if there is a bug and if it's supposed to show something.
Has anyone else tried the long press?
As of now all I do is keep a folder on the desktop labeled background apps. It helps big time when I accidentally tap the close all button. But my solution as of now is to keep things open that don't seem to work in the background. I've been experimenting with what works and it seems like in some recent app updates they begin to work without being open. I know for sure that facebook and now facebook messenger work without being open, as well as some google services. I have a memory clearer app that I use when I'm not using my phone so it clears whatever it can without killing the apps. But that's what I have as of now, trial and error to figure out what I need to leave open and what I can close. And I strongly recommend the folder, I have had many times where I accidentally close everything and forget what I had to leave open.
It's a bummer though, I just bought the phone and then this update came out. Kinda kills the excitement of getting a new awesome phone if I have to deal with this frustration :/ Other than that, it's definately a nice step up from a Samsung S4.
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does it misbehave after rebooting? or all the time?
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does it misbehave after rebooting? or all the time?
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Misbehave as in not show anything after a long press?
Yes, nothing happens anytime I try it. After reboot, the first time I pull up the running apps is when I get the prompt. After the first long press after a reboot, the prompt is gone. If I have an app open and then I do the long press, I am taken back to the desktop, but no matter what I try, nothing seems to happen after the long press other than being taken back to the desktop if I had an app open.
I have the same issue, I thought it was a Internet connection issue (see my thread) but after digging deeper realised my background apps werent running after closing them and the long press option does nothing.
I have the same problem. Any solution?
MatisasB said:
I have the same problem. Any solution?
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I've just installed the new update and it looks like the issues I had with background apps closing when clearing all apps has been fixed. I've got no apps running in the foreground yet can see Whatsapp, Fitbit, etc still running and I'm receiving notifications for them.
Setting up my new X10 is turning into a nightmare, as nearly every app needs to have specific permissions set before it works correctly, and then every time I try to set them, I get the 'Screen overlay detected' message - telling me to turn it off.
The problem is that there is no single setting to turn it off temporarily like there is on other devices (apparently), that I've been able to find, and the only way to set the right permissions for the app is to turn off all other apps 'Draw over other apps' permission. That works for the first app, but then all the other apps have to be reset. So, I end up going round and round in circles.
Does anyone know a way round this problem?
So Android 10 is running great on my OG Pixel so far but I'm puzzled by the fact that I'm now getting random prompts that some random app that I haven't run in a long time has just requested location access. This might actually be more of an "how does android work" than a pixel question but I thought I'd ask here first. So apps that I haven't run in months will just get flagged for requesting location. An app like the TouchTunes app which uses location I understand but a network app like Fing? Why are these apps running at all? I know the phone has been rebooted since the last time I used these apps and I know for a fact that I've actively force stopped TouchTunes. Why are these apps waking up and requesting location?
PS: Love the fact that Android 10 is telling me about this as it's giving me an easy way to slowly work through permissions for all my apps!
Its all part of the new location privacy/permissions/security set up on 10 that flags up background location requests etc.
If you been into the main settings menu you will have probably seen the separate location tab with the new 3 level location settings, bit better than on or off lol.
Oh and those apps you force stopped have probably re started on reboot, if they have run at start perms a reboot will start them again when the system is fully booted.
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Its all part of the new location privacy/permissions/security set up on 10 that flags up background location requests etc.
If you been into the main settings menu you will have probably seen the separate location tab with the new 3 level location settings, bit better than on or off lol.
Oh and those apps you force stopped have probably re started on reboot, if they have run at start perms a reboot will start them again when the system is fully booted.
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So my dumb question then is there an easy way to go through all apps and turn on/off run at startup?
JoeHockey said:
So my dumb question then is there an easy way to go through all apps and turn on/off run at startup?
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Not really mate, it's not a user facing permission that you can switch on and off in app settings like location etc.
I'm not even sure that would be possible nowadays even if your device is rooted?. All I can suggest is either disable it (if it allows) and open when needed or uninstall it.
I like to stop background data and set battery use to restricted for most of my apps.
I spent about 10 minutes yesterday going through every app and turning off background data and setting the battery use to restricted, but after a reboot, everything is back to default, including apps I've previously enabled to install other apps (Google chrome, mixplorer, sai, etc)
Any ideas?
Here is something that I do to achieve a similar result. I use the app Ice Box to freeze many of my apps that I want to restrict. This temporarily disables them, but keeps their data. This cuts down on battery usage, background CPU/RAM usage, and notifications. Whenever you want to use one of those apps, you can just tap the icebox icon and it will show a panel of all of you frozen apps and you can just tap an app to open it. It does offer the ability to put shortcuts of the frozen apps in your launcher to make it easier to access them.
If you are rooted it is simple to set up. If you are not rooted, you can still use it with ADB permissions (works well with Shuzuku too), but you need to reissue the adb command anytime your phone it rebooted. Shizuku makes this step a bit easier.
synesthete said:
Here is something that I do to achieve a similar result. I use the app Ice Box to freeze many of my apps that I want to restrict. This temporarily disables them, but keeps their data. This cuts down on battery usage, background CPU/RAM usage, and notifications. Whenever you want to use one of those apps, you can just tap the icebox icon and it will show a panel of all of you frozen apps and you can just tap an app to open it. It does offer the ability to put shortcuts of the frozen apps in your launcher to make it easier to access them.
If you are rooted it is simple to set up. If you are not rooted, you can still use it with ADB permissions (works well with Shuzuku too), but you need to reissue the adb command anytime your phone it rebooted. Shizuku makes this step a bit easier.
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Thanks @synesthete, but my use is different. I've used SDMaid and other apps to freeze apps for years, but that's not what I'm after.
For instance, I don't think Google Chrome needs to have background data when I'm not actively using it. I also think that there's no need for it to have "optimized" battery setting if I only want it running when I want to use it. There are a lot of apps that fall into this category that I'd like to be in control of.
So in short, I want to disable background data and set it's battery use to "restricted", which works right up until I restart my phone.
I hope this isn't some new "intended behavior", that'll suck.
Battery life is part of my concern - apps that are on the "restricted" list don't use as much battery, and I couldn't care less if I get notifications from most of them, but I still want to use them.
Background data is more privacy-concern. I don't think most of my apps need to call home and tell them what I've done in their app since last time it called home. My invoicing program for instance. I need that info synced, but when *I* choose for it to sync, not 14 times in the middle of the night when I'm not using the phone.
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Thanks @synesthete, but my use is different. I've used SDMaid and other apps to freeze apps for years, but that's not what I'm after.
For instance, I don't think Google Chrome needs to have background data when I'm not actively using it. I also think that there's no need for it to have "optimized" battery setting if I only want it running when I want to use it. There are a lot of apps that fall into this category that I'd like to be in control of.
So in short, I want to disable background data and set it's battery use to "restricted", which works right up until I restart my phone.
I hope this isn't some new "intended behavior", that'll suck.
Battery life is part of my concern - apps that are on the "restricted" list don't use as much battery, and I couldn't care less if I get notifications from most of them, but I still want to use them.
Background data is more privacy-concern. I don't think most of my apps need to call home and tell them what I've done in their app since last time it called home. My invoicing program for instance. I need that info synced, but when *I* choose for it to sync, not 14 times in the middle of the night when I'm not using the phone.
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Yeah I understand your reasoning and I agree that many apps like that do not need background data or to even run run in the background. I suppose some people use web-apps/PWAs and push notifications in their browsers, but it seems that background data should be an opt-in setting for many apps.
It is very strange that those settings are resetting after reboot. I just tested it out with Chrome and Chrome Beta and the restricted setting survived a reboot.
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Yeah I understand your reasoning and I agree that many apps like that do not need background data or to even run run in the background. I suppose some people use web-apps/PWAs and push notifications in their browsers, but it seems that background data should be an opt-in setting for many apps.
It is very strange that those settings are resetting after reboot. I just tested it out with Chrome and Chrome Beta and the restricted setting survived a reboot.
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Damn, ok, at least I know there's something wrong with specifically MY setup.
Hopefully someone will chime in with a reason and a fix.
Thank you for checking it out on yours and giving me input!!
I hate to double-post, but it's been a couple days and I was hoping that someone with experience in what my issues is would chime in.
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I set specific apps to restrict background data and set the battery use to restricted.
After a phone restart, the settings are back to default, including any 'disable over' and other permissions. My changes do not persist after a reboot.