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[Q] T-Mobile

Fellow Nexus S'ers, please assist me in a decision that needs to be made by tomorrow.
I have AT&T. I want T-Mobile (or do I?).
Thanks

Only you can answer this. Are you happy with your AT&T service? Have you ever had Tmo before, and is it good enough service for you where you live? If so, then Tmobile (IMO) would be the way to go.
Tmobile is cheaper, and (personally) I've never had a dropped call with Tmo - not to mention awesome CS! Been with Tmo for about 8 years, never considered AT&T. Good luck!

Like Bmerz said I would only switch if you don't like ATT. I have had both and can only say that ATT has better overall coverage, but Tmobile's customer service is 10X better than ATT.
Tmobile's coverage in most cities is about the same, but if you travel and rely on cellphone coverage while in rural areas keep ATT.

I'm okay with at&t, but I was gonna switch at the beginning of the year to T-Mobile for the N1, but decided not to. I'm gonna do it.
But I still don't know if i want a contract for a cheaper price. What do you guys think about that? I hate being locked in to contracts.

Again, only you can answer this. If you can afford the upfront cost of the NS ($529), then going without a contract is probably (in the long run) the way to go. But if you're on a budget, then unfortunately doing a contract and getting the phone for less (upfront $199), would be the better solution for you.

Singlespeed said:
Tmobile's coverage in most cities is about the same, but if you travel and rely on cellphone coverage while in rural areas keep ATT.
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Pretty accurate statement there....
I had ATT for several years but now have Tmobile (I switched for a Nokia N900 a year ago, then of course got the n1, as well as a myriad of other phones).
Anyways - Tmobile is cheaper $80 vs $90 if you're on contract. $60 vs $90 if you're on even more plus (which I am). EM+ and not having a contract is awesome... just in case some other carrier peaks my interest, I can switch easily. Tmobile has HSPA+ right now, at&t doesn't. At&t in my area doesn't have the best speeds.
There is this perception out there that TMO is a low quality carrier, when in reality they're completely fine (and their customer service has a reputation for being top notch). Sure they don't have coverage everywhere, but for HSPA+ and the cost, it's really good.
If you have HSPA+ active in your area, its a no brainer.

I have been with T Mobile (and Voice Stream before it changed the name to T Mobile) for over 13 years. They have been very good to me. I really would not consider switching to any other carrier at this point in time. Their CS is the best in the Business. I personally think they will be getting some really great phones coming up next year. As for right now IMHO I don't believe there is a phone out right now that tops the Nexus S or even rivals it at the moment. I have the N1( which I am in process of selling) the MT4G and a Vibrant. Also going to sell the MT4G(great phone but am not confident messing with it , like roms etc. due to security measures etc) I like the Vibrant the best at the moment as I feel it is easier to install roms etc and recover it if something wild happens. I am eagerly anticipating the Nexus S which I hope to receive tomorrow. I would not switch from T Mobile they go the extra mile for long time loyal customers

I'm on my parent's AT&T family plan, so they pay for my Cell (I had T-Mobile year ago on my own, but disappointed with their Androids so I went to AT&T and joined my parents).
I'm buying the Nexus S full price, so I'll see how it handles EDGE on AT&T first, if it sucks, I'll drive a couple blocks to my T-Mobile store and get the Even More Plus no contract plan for $60 a month and transfer my number over.

It's folly to give a general recommendation because it will all depend on where you live. I really like T-Mobile, but that's only because I have very good coverage where I live.
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It's folly to give a general recommendation because it will all depend on where you live. I really like T-Mobile, but that's only because I have very good coverage where I live. I couldn't possibly recommend it to you unless you live in the same city.
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Kubernetes said:
It's folly to give a general recommendation because it will all depend on where you live. I really like T-Mobile, but that's only because I have very good coverage where I live.
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I agree with this.

Always choose your carrier first (based on location)
Then choose the best phone that carrier has.
If Att & Tmo are equal coverage then I would go with Tmo since they are a nicer company (price and customer service wise) to their customers.

I am a long time T-Mobile customer and I'll buy it in full price to keep contract intact.

If you can get decent T-Mobile service around your city, especially your house, and you can get T-Mobile 3G, it's a no brainer. T-Mobile's speeds are lightyears ahead of AT&T

I believe you can get T-Mobile and try it out for a certain amount of time to test it out in your area. I think the window is either 30 or 45 days. Ask a T-Mobile rep in your area for more info.
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What has been said here already is true. I've used both AT&T and T-Mobile and while my coverage was a bit better with AT&T, the way they treated me as a customer was downright unacceptable. They deserve to be at the bottom of Consumer Reports.

I've had much better service/coverage with T-Mobile than I did with AT&T. Customer service has been waaaaaaay better with T-Mobile as well. If you aren't stuck with AT&T, my vote is to sign a 2-year contract with T-Mobile.

Is there an EM+ for the Nexus S? I'm strongly weighing the paying the ETF on my AT&T account and grabbing something in the morning. As long as I have unlimited data I'm fine...
dale_cooper said:
Pretty accurate statement there....
I had ATT for several years but now have Tmobile (I switched for a Nokia N900 a year ago, then of course got the n1, as well as a myriad of other phones).
Anyways - Tmobile is cheaper $80 vs $90 if you're on contract. $60 vs $90 if you're on even more plus (which I am). EM+ and not having a contract is awesome... just in case some other carrier peaks my interest, I can switch easily. Tmobile has HSPA+ right now, at&t doesn't. At&t in my area doesn't have the best speeds.
There is this perception out there that TMO is a low quality carrier, when in reality they're completely fine (and their customer service has a reputation for being top notch). Sure they don't have coverage everywhere, but for HSPA+ and the cost, it's really good.
If you have HSPA+ active in your area, its a no brainer.
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bmstrong said:
Is there an EM+ for the Nexus S? I'm strongly weighing the paying the ETF on my AT&T account and grabbing something in the morning. As long as I have unlimited data I'm fine...
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Of course, you just buy the phone outright (529) and sign up for EM+ at $60 / month.

Only reason to be on at&t is for the iPhone, otherwise T-Mobile will meet your need and for less

G2x on AT&T?

Would it be possible to run this beast on AT&Ts network?

ookami614 said:
Would it be possible to run this beast on AT&Ts network?
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Yes, but you won't get 3g speeds.
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I heard that it is possible for at&t 3G ..but I think it would be a result if the merger goes through or not
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As of right now, not possible for 3g data. The phone doesn't have the baseband but there is a group that thinks the phone actually supports Att 3G but is locked down until the merger goes through. Would make sense that Tmo would keep it locked in order to maintain customers as long as possible.

hiko36 said:
As of right now, not possible for 3g data. The phone doesn't have the baseband but there is a group that thinks the phone actually supports Att 3G but is locked down until the merger goes through. Would make sense that Tmo would keep it locked in order to maintain customers as long as possible.
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I am totally hoping that ATT comes in, forces a massive switch to their network, and then allows everyone to update their phones inside of the current contracts.
I would get the G2x, keep it as a wifi machine or sell it on Ebay, and be able to get the Galaxy SII for the low contract price.
I want ATT to take over the towers, and give all the old users new hardware to work within the ATT system. And the T-Mobile data costs locked in. Great deal for everyone.
One thing for sure, if ATT comes in, they have to give the same 4G (3.5G++ or whatever you want to call T-Mobile 4G) service to all the G2x owners...one way or the other.
Heck if ATT is not able to finish the purchase they need to pay up 6 billion in penalties. A bunch of new phones to existing user, going out a new contract prices, is easy. Plus ATT has way more solid coverage in my area.
I went with the G2x hoping that it would become an orphaned phone in the ATT world....gets me a new piece of hardware on the cheep

I agree with this. If AT&T forces people into having crippled phones without offering heavily subsidized replacements on their new network then surely there will be an outcry ... with that said we could be getting a great upgrade deal for getting the shaft (but this would be nearly 2 years down the road so its sort of win win)
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tombaker1 said:
I am totally hoping that ATT comes in, forces a massive switch to their network, and then allows everyone to update their phones inside of the current contracts.
I would get the G2x, keep it as a wifi machine or sell it on Ebay, and be able to get the Galaxy SII for the low contract price.
I want ATT to take over the towers, and give all the old users new hardware to work within the ATT system. And the T-Mobile data costs locked in. Great deal for everyone.
One thing for sure, if ATT comes in, they have to give the same 4G (3.5G++ or whatever you want to call T-Mobile 4G) service to all the G2x owners...one way or the other.
Heck if ATT is not able to finish the purchase they need to pay up 6 billion in penalties. A bunch of new phones to existing user, going out a new contract prices, is easy. Plus ATT has way more solid coverage in my area.
I went with the G2x hoping that it would become an orphaned phone in the ATT world....gets me a new piece of hardware on the cheep
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Uhhh i guess you want plan costs to go through the roof. No one wants this merger to succeed. Tons of tmobile plans will disappear
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Several upcoming phones for Tmobile support AT&T 3G bands and it is quoted in several sources that "the bandband for AT&T will be locked until the merger goes through".
AT&T is putting up a pretty big wager guaranteeing it would go through. I don't see why it wouldn't. Sure AT&T would be the only major GSM carrier in the US but there is still plenty of competition (Verizon). Plus larger cities have their own local cell carriers.
They probably would also be subject to leasing out their frequencies to companies like Cricket and Boost Mobile, that piggy back off other carriers towers.
I personally think it is a good idea because there is only so much frequency bandwidth for GSM and having to split it up among different groups creates problems. Not all area's have all the frequencies but once the merger goes through, phones would support all and would be able to connect to anything. This means more signal and bandwidth for everyone.
Sure I dislike AT&T but I did like their service (back before the iFone). It then became over crowded and I couldn't use it at my house. For travel, AT&T > Tmobile. At home, where I am most of the time, Tmobile>AT&T. If they combine, it will be the best of both worlds.

[Q]: Unlocking Infuse to access other networks?

I just moved to NC and get absolutely **** AT&T service. I hear Verizon works best in my area, so I'm wanting to switch to Verizon but not at the cost of buying a brand new phone when I have my beloved Infuse, and the deposit.
I actually have NOT rooted my Infuse because I liked the stock so much, saw no need to. I did have a rooted Galaxy S, as well as a rooted Nook, so I'm not a complete noob.
I'm just nervous about unlocking my phone to possibly hook it up with Verizon. Can you tell me how this works? After unlocking are you sure it'll be 100% to use with Verizon?
Anything else I need to know? How's your mother doing?

I don't think the infuse will work with Verizon. Verizon uses cdma and infuse is a gsm phone. How's tmobile over there? It'll work but with slow data speeds.
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Ugh, eff. This is going to suck. Tmobile is shiz, too. I was really hoping to avoid having to spend $200+ plus whatever security deposit requirements. I've been with AT&T over 5 years.
Grr.

Idk infuse maybe compatible with cdma, I've seen the option to use it in a special menu somewhere, its regularly set for cdma/gsm so it maybe able to use Verizon but I'm no developer so I'm not to sure
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Plus isn't T-Mobile at&t anyway. Don't they use the same towers? I thought I heard at&t bought t-mobile
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You could try switching to Credo, which uses sprint's towers and you wouldn't lose any money.
They will buy out your at&t contract if you switch to them, so you don't have to pay at&t early termination fees. If you sign their contract, you can also get the sprint sgs2 For $200 and just sell your infuse to cover that cost. So you would have to drop some money at first but get it all back.
I've been considering doing this because Credo spends their money on things like lobbying against sopa/pipa, whereas at&t is really into censoring the uses of our phones.
Edit:
Contract buyout info
http://www.credomobile.com/specialoffers/
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goobieracing said:
Plus isn't T-Mobile at&t anyway. Don't they use the same towers? I thought I heard at&t bought t-mobile
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The merger did not happen.
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zOMGrae said:
I just moved to NC and get absolutely **** AT&T service. I hear Verizon works best in my area, so I'm wanting to switch
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If service sucks in your house, look into getting a used Microcell from Ebay or Craigslist. On principle I hate the fact I have to use my own broadband connection, buy my own device, and still have my minutes and data usage count against my monthly alottment but that's the way AT&T plays. If it's the entire area you are in then maybe a carrier change is in order.
The Samsung Infuse is a GSM phone. It does not have the capability to connect to CDMA networks (Verizon, Sprint, and any of the MVNOs using Sprint or Verizon's network).
If unlocked, you can use any SIM from another GSM carrier and make voice calls. You will also be able to use Edge (2G) data coverage from any GSM carrier.
In the US, the two largest GSM carriers are AT&T and T-Mobile. They use different 3G frequencies which means using a phone originally for AT&T on T-Mobile only allows you 2G data speeds and vice versa (in general... though some T-Mobile smartphones can use AT&T's 1900Mhz band)
Hope that helps. Unlike Europe and Asia, our phones are by and large locked to their respective carriers even if you unlock them because of the technology difference and frequency differences.

zOMGrae said:
I just moved to NC and get absolutely **** AT&T service. I hear Verizon works best in my area, so I'm wanting to switch to Verizon but not at the cost of buying a brand new phone when I have my beloved Infuse, and the deposit.
I actually have NOT rooted my Infuse because I liked the stock so much, saw no need to. I did have a rooted Galaxy S, as well as a rooted Nook, so I'm not a complete noob.
I'm just nervous about unlocking my phone to possibly hook it up with Verizon. Can you tell me how this works? After unlocking are you sure it'll be 100% to use with Verizon?
Anything else I need to know? How's your mother doing?
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Won't work on VZ... sorry bro.
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Cross-Carrier Android Smartphone

Hey Folks,
Here in the U.S. phones are bound to their carriers--you buy an AT&T handset to run on the AT&T network, Verizon handset to run on Verizon, etc.. This, of course, is annoying as hell, because it makes it hard to switch carriers and lock you into a contract.
What's the best Android phone to use if I want to switch among Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, and Sprint? I've got 7 months left on a crappy contract and I can't wait to start taking advantage of better deals.
tyvm for your help, and forgiving the n00b question.

tangoking said:
Hey Folks,
Here in the U.S. phones are bound to their carriers--you buy an AT&T handset to run on the AT&T network, Verizon handset to run on Verizon, etc.. This, of course, is annoying as hell, because it makes it hard to switch carriers and lock you into a contract.
What's the best Android phone to use if I want to switch among Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, and Sprint? I've got 7 months left on a crappy contract and I can't wait to start taking advantage of better deals.
tyvm for your help, and forgiving the n00b question.
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You have 2 choices. GSM (ATT & Tmobile...Sim card) or CDMA (Sprint & Verizon...Non Sim card) There are a few phones that will work on all of them but you will lose faster data speeds like 3g and lte. All carriers are not using the same bands and each carrier has their bands hard coded in the hardware.

[Q] Which carrier should I go to?

I am currently a Sprint customer and have been their customer since 2001. Over the past 3 years i have noticed a significant instability in internet service. A lot of people has been telling me great reviews on Atnt...which I am r eally surprised. Whats so good about atnt now? when i do switch in feburary, i will be either going to atnt or tmobile. any suggestions?

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I am currently a Sprint customer and have been their customer since 2001. Over the past 3 years i have noticed a significant instability in internet service. A lot of people has been telling me great reviews on Atnt...which I am r eally surprised. Whats so good about atnt now? when i do switch in feburary, i will be either going to atnt or tmobile. any suggestions?
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I've been happy with T-mobile, but I live in a major city. You can probably find coverage maps online.

aznnoir22 said:
I am currently a Sprint customer and have been their customer since 2001. Over the past 3 years i have noticed a significant instability in internet service. A lot of people has been telling me great reviews on Atnt...which I am r eally surprised. Whats so good about atnt now? when i do switch in feburary, i will be either going to atnt or tmobile. any suggestions?
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I really depends on where you live and where you might be traveling to (and in between). Verizon has the best coverage, AT&T the second best, but they also have the worst plans. T-Mobile is fantastic if you're in a metropolitan area, and their plans and policies are unmatched, but if you're in a rural area or do a lot of driving between towns, you might find yourself without a signal. If you do a lot of traveling, it wouldn't be a bad idea to get an unlocked GSM phone and use it on a T-Mobile plan, and also pick up a pre-paid AT&T SIM (or one from an AT&T MVNO) to use while traveling in T-Mo's dead zones. That way you can enjoy T-Mobile's unlimited services but still be connected where they have no coverage but AT&T does.

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