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Android Pay issues

OK, here goes. I am running COS 12.1, rooted, with an unlocked bootloader. I recently upgraded to Android Pay after using Google Wallet for NFC payments for years on my old GS4 and my OnePlus One.
At first, I was unable to add my payment card due to being rooted. Easily fixed, I unrooted using SuperSU to do a full unroot and was able to add my card and complete the app setup.
The showstopper is that whenever I try to use it at a merchant, I end up with a screen that says Confirm your password - you must unlock to use Android Pay. No matter how many times I enter my password it just keeps asking over and over. I disabled the quick unlock feature under lock screen settings just in case that was the issue, but it made no difference. An ongoing support case with Google just came back with the following:
"The specific error message that you saw means that your device can't support Android Pay's advanced security. It seems that the phone manufacturer has modified the operating system to the point where it is no longer compatible with our software. You may want to use Android Pay on a different device for the most secure payments."
So, has anyone running COS 12.1 had any luck with Android Pay? Thoughts, comments, suggestions are all welcome.

Hurricane Andrew said:
OK, here goes. I am running COS 12.1, rooted, with an unlocked bootloader. I recently upgraded to Android Pay after using Google Wallet for NFC payments for years on my old GS4 and my OnePlus One.
At first, I was unable to add my payment card due to being rooted. Easily fixed, I unrooted using SuperSU to do a full unroot and was able to add my card and complete the app setup.
The showstopper is that whenever I try to use it at a merchant, I end up with a screen that says Confirm your password - you must unlock to use Android Pay. No matter how many times I enter my password it just keeps asking over and over. I disabled the quick unlock feature under lock screen settings just in case that was the issue, but it made no difference. An ongoing support case with Google just came back with the following:
"The specific error message that you saw means that your device can't support Android Pay's advanced security. It seems that the phone manufacturer has modified the operating system to the point where it is no longer compatible with our software. You may want to use Android Pay on a different device for the most secure payments."
So, has anyone running COS 12.1 had any luck with Android Pay? Thoughts, comments, suggestions are all welcome.
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Yes I have also fyi - there is also another thread talking bout Android pay and what we got it working on and which roms it does not work with. Did you try it with root enabled?

playya said:
Yes I have also fyi - there is also another thread talking bout Android pay and what we got it working on and which roms it does not work with. Did you try it with root enabled?
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I first tried it with root enabled, then when that didn't work I did the full unroot. I will try with just disabling SU over the weekend and see what happens.

Hurricane Andrew said:
I first tried it with root enabled, then when that didn't work I did the full unroot. I will try with just disabling SU over the weekend and see what happens.
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yeah with stock no need to full unroot. you can have bootloader unlocked root added and all that. Its just when you set it up make sure its stock root and not by using the supersu zip file. My findings was when I flashed Supersu it did not work but if I flashed stock rom then let TWRP inject root it worked. Of course I unchecked the option in supersu set up Android Pay then found one of those coke machines that take Android pay and tested it out.

Looking for help root/unlock Droid Mini with SU2-3.3

I had a Moto X 2013 Developer Edition (5.1 with XPosed) that recently died. As a stop gap until I can get something newer and nicer I bought a Droid Mini on Ebay. Here is the information on what it came with:
System version: 19.6.3.obakem_verizon.Verizon.en.US
Android version: 4.4
Baseband version: MSM8960PRO_BP_2323.031.111.00R
Kernel version: 3.4.42-gel1d6506-00006-g9ddacc8 [email protected] #1
Build number: SU2-3.3
It looks like my build number is older than those that seem to block unlocks. I was hoping to find a way to at least get root (get XPosed), and at most unlock the bootloader (flash a newer ROM). I am avoiding all system updates just in case they could ruin my chances of an exploit.
I have enabled loading 'other' applications and disabled verifying apps.
I've tried reading some of the threads here - some talk about loading tools like RockMyMoto onto the device and then using Impactor, but Impactor fails to access using telnet as a system level user. I tried installing PwnMyMoto 1.4.3 but I get certificate parse errors. I may be doing something wrong.
Does anyone know which threads I should be using for my build, or if I can't even do anything? I feel sort of lost. Any help would be appreciated.

ohioDroid said:
I had a Moto X 2013 Developer Edition (5.1 with XPosed) that recently died. As a stop gap until I can get something newer and nicer I bought a Droid Mini on Ebay. Here is the information on what it came with:
System version: 19.6.3.obakem_verizon.Verizon.en.US
Android version: 4.4
Baseband version: MSM8960PRO_BP_2323.031.111.00R
Kernel version: 3.4.42-gel1d6506-00006-g9ddacc8 [email protected] #1
Build number: SU2-3.3
It looks like my build number is older than those that seem to block unlocks. I was hoping to find a way to at least get root (get XPosed), and at most unlock the bootloader (flash a newer ROM). I am avoiding all system updates just in case they could ruin my chances of an exploit.
I have enabled loading 'other' applications and disabled verifying apps.
I've tried reading some of the threads here - some talk about loading tools like RockMyMoto onto the device and then using Impactor, but Impactor fails to access using telnet as a system level user. I tried installing PwnMyMoto 1.4.3 but I get certificate parse errors. I may be doing something wrong.
Does anyone know which threads I should be using for my build, or if I can't even do anything? I feel sort of lost. Any help would be appreciated.
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Your best bet is Sunshine:
http theroot.ninja

I agree. Sunshine and Kingroot are the ways I rooted and unlocked my Droid Ultra on Android 4.4.4 (SU 4.21)
These are the steps I took:
1 ) I downloaded Kingroot and rooted temporarily with that, since Sunshine does a check to see if you're rooted. I was getting an error with Sunshine as it tried to temp root, but it would just restart the phone and nothing happened. This is the work around I found.
2 ) Downloaded Sunshine and let it do all it's tests that it runs, including the workaround in the previous steps
3 ) Bought the access code for $25. If you think about it, it's worth the $25 since a new phone with a newer OS is far more expensive than $25. Therefore you can keep up with the newest OS through free ROMs
4 ) Let Sunshine do it's thing
5 ) Install TWRP, CWM, or Philz
6 ) Have fun

pbarrette said:
Your best bet is Sunshine:
http theroot.ninja
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xjewpacabrax said:
I agree. Sunshine and Kingroot are the ways I rooted and unlocked my Droid Ultra on Android 4.4.4 (SU 4.21)
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I did download Sunshine and ran it through the tests - it says that it can get root and could unlock my phone if I paid. I'm surprised it didn't have in-app purchases - I was going to use Google Play but I guess you have to buy from the developers online or send them an Amazon Gift Card? Or maybe there is a way to use Google Play?

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I did download Sunshine and ran it through the tests - it says that it can get root and could unlock my phone if I paid. I'm surprised it didn't have in-app purchases - I was going to use Google Play but I guess you have to buy from the developers online or send them an Amazon Gift Card? Or maybe there is a way to use Google Play?
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The only way that I am aware of is through the app using a debit/credit card. I wouldn't worry about it too much, since this app has been confirmed by multiple people on a myriad of devices as working and legitimate
If there is another way, hopefully someone else can chime in and let you know.

Unofficial lg x power thread

Sooo I recently purchased this device and it is a nice lil budget phone with amazing battery life. I am reallllly hoping others are out there with this sucker and savvy enough to work together on rooting this device and possibly more customization later on down the road afterwards. I have the Cricket Variant LGK450 and so far getting into fastboot is a no go and I am basically stuck until root is gained on this device as I am guessing everyone else with it is as well. So this thread is basically for things you have tried to gain root on the device and sharing information on what has worked and what hasn't for you and any other tips and tricks you have discovered using this device any info could be helpful until we perhaps get an official thread in the LG Forums like the X Screen and X Cam have. So far the only thing I have really gotten into to do some tinkering with is using the dialer code *#LGMENU#*450# and you can modify various things there and some of the more useful tools for logging are there as well, and crash handler/ramdump etc. running a ls -l -R | grep -E "^c.{6}((r.)|(.w))" in shell shows that the only drivers we could mess with are as follows.
crw-rw-r-- system radio 10, 55 2016-01-01 08:32 alarm
crw-rw-rw- root root 10, 60 2016-01-01 08:32 ashmem
crw-rw-rw- root root 10, 61 2016-01-01 08:32 binder
crw-rw-r-- system system 10, 95 2016-01-01 08:32 ion
crw-rw-rw- system system 240, 0 2016-10-04 23:53 kgsl-3d0
crw-rw-rw- root root 1, 3 2016-01-01 08:32 null
crw-rw-rw- root root 5, 2 2016-10-04 23:53 ptmx
crw-rw-rw- root root 1, 8 2016-01-01 08:32 random
crw-rw-rw- root root 5, 0 2016-01-01 08:32 tty
crw-rw-rw- root root 1, 9 2016-01-01 08:32 urandom
crw-r--r-- root root 10, 53 2016-01-01 08:32 xt_qtaguid
crw-rw-rw- root root 1, 5 2016-01-01 08:32 zero
crw-rw-rw- root root 1, 3 1969-12-31 18:00 null
Everything else is permission denied.

I am also interested in this. I haven't got far at all. This is a great value phone so i am really hoping someone can root it.

I am wondering if we could compile this exploit and give it a try i tried to compile it with gcc but it threw a ton of errors but if someone else can put this together I will test it please check out the following exploit code https://www.exploit-db.com/exploits/39340/ We do indeed have sensord service and it is running as root so in theory this exploit should work on our device I think but I need someone to help me out with how I would compile it I have metasploit and such but i am pretty new to messing around in there I am running Kali Linux x64 my guess is that I am compiling it incorrectly.

Have a LG xpower android 6.0.1, tried many ways/online tutorial, can't root it
I have checked the connectivity by "adb devices".
After run command "adb reboot bootloader", LG Xpower then go to "fastboot mode". The screen is black and "=> FASTBOOT mode..." is shown at the left bottom corner.
However, after that, the PC was failed to recognize it.
I opened device manager and realised under the section "Other device" with an unsuccessfully installed device(unrecognized character). I have verified that is the LG Xpower by unplug and plug the USB cable.
I got stuck here.
Although Xpower can be in FASTBOOT mode but the PC cannot recognize it. Depressed.
I am new here and don't know how to post the screen capture image.

What provider do you have? I have cricket and no fastboot for me at all you would seem to at least have hope sounds like your just missing some drivers.

I am wondering guys I think what I have dug out of the device may be good news but wanted to get feedback on if yall think it would work or not, I got the otacerts.zip off of the device and within is releasekey.x509.pem which is the same key used to sign the OTA updates and they must match that key in order to pass and flash to the device sooooo if I was to make a prerooted system for instance and sign with this pem could I actually flash that to the device without a brick?

could anyone provide a link to a stock spft backup please!!

new root?
is there anyone who rooted the lg x power?

Well you could try the latest KingRoot I no longer have this device swapped to a s5 then also got me a moto g4 to tinker with. I would say best chance is kingroot.

KazuDante said:
could anyone provide a link to a stock spft backup please!!
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I just got this phone. Boost version.
1) Teach me how to make an original ROM backup... before I do anything.
Some people said use CWM. But that requires root? which I dont have.
So what do I use? Someone tell me the app, and steps, and ill upload it for the community to work on.
Let's get this phone rooted
2) Ah f*ck. As I was writing it did some update without my permission. "com.lge.bnr."
A "system" update is pending but I wont start it.
How do I disable auto updates? It's not a normal google play update, but some system or LG thing.

t5678 said:
I just got this phone. Boost version.
1) Teach me how to make an original ROM backup... before I do anything.
Some people said use CWM. But that requires root? which I dont have.
So what do I use? Someone tell me the app, and steps, and ill upload it for the community to work on.
Let's get this phone rooted
2) Ah f*ck. As I was writing it did some update without my permission. "com.lge.bnr."
A "system" update is pending but I wont start it.
How do I disable auto updates? It's not a normal google play update, but some system or LG thing.
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To disable updates....you can go to dialer and dial *#LGMENU#*450# I think that's the code and it will give you some.menus where the 450 is if your model is other than k450 then use those numbers instead but in those menus their is one for disable it update sorry I don't have the device anymore to say for are but I had done that on mine also the main prob is the security updates that's what will kill chances of rooting so don't take those if you can help it and I think some models like boost maybe if your able to get to fastboot then you should be able to unlock the bootloader then build a tarp or cwm recovery flash a systemless root and then custom Roms etc but for most if you can't get to fastboot like the attached or cricket variant then you will most likely have to wait til kingroot figures something out

toxinburn said:
To disable updates....you can go to dialer and dial *#LGMENU#*450# I think that's the code and it will give you some.menus where the 450 is if your model is other than k450 then use those numbers instead but in those menus their is one for disable it update sorry I don't have the device anymore to say for are but I had done that on mine also the main prob is the security updates that's what will kill chances of rooting so don't take those if you can help it and I think some models like boost maybe if your able to get to fastboot then you should be able to unlock the bootloader then build a tarp or cwm recovery flash a systemless root and then custom Roms etc but for most if you can't get to fastboot like the attached or cricket variant then you will most likely have to wait til kingroot figures something out
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Thanks for the info on question 2).
Also thanks for the security update warning. Do you know if "com.lge.bnr" was the type of security update that makes rooting harder? If anyone can confirm, then future new owners can be quicker to disable it before the update is forced.
So for question 1), you are saying that for me to make a CWM backup, that I WILL have to unlock bootloader somehow?
If possible, I wanted to make a CWM backup without any risky flashing, in case a problem occurs - since if a problem does occur during flashing then I wouldnt have a backup to install lol.
But if someone tells me it is low risk, and the current method works on this new device, then ill try to get an original CWM backup for the rest of us to have as backup.

t5678 said:
Thanks for the info on question 2).
Also thanks for the security update warning. Do you know if "com.lge.bnr" was the type of security update that makes rooting harder? If anyone can confirm, then future new owners can be quicker to disable it before the update is forced.
So for question 1), you are saying that for me to make a CWM backup, that I WILL have to unlock bootloader somehow?
If possible, I wanted to make a CWM backup without any risky flashing, in case a problem occurs - since if a problem does occur during flashing then I wouldnt have a backup to install lol.
But if someone tells me it is low risk, and the current method works on this new device, then ill try to get an original CWM backup for the rest of us to have as backup.
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Well the only way to get a CWM backup or TWRP backup would be to first unlock the bootloader on the device, but since you can't get into fastboot to actually unlock the bootloader their is no safe way to flash a CWM or TWRP nor is their a custom recovery compiled for this device, you cant just flash any twrp or cwm build and expect it to function since they need to be compiled for each device independently in other words the CWM and TWRP are device specific and when you build either one you have to specify which partitions the specific device your building for is using for various things such as the system and boot etc. And these partitions vary from device to device, I am not sure what the app does that updated either, but for sure do not try to flash twrp or cwm unless it has been built for your specific device and you wont ever be able to without an unlocked bootloader since 6.0 uses dm verity etc if you flash custom recovery or rom to this device without the unlock in effect it will most likely soft brick at the very least. In the past their were ways to kind of sideload roms from the external sd card but that from what I know of is no longer an option unless someone figures out a new way to bypass the newer security checks, I am not going to say they never ever will but it will take some time at the very least....From all the times I have messed with rooting and customizations on android through the years I would say your safest bet in the future is to make an educated purchase before you decide to buy a new phone if you for sure want to be able to root and use custom anything like roms and kernels then you need to find out beforehand is your device going to support bootloader unlocking officially or is their already an exploit that will enable you to do so in existence at time of purchase, I find if the unlock is not supported officially then you would probably want to get a flagship device as the devs and exploit gurus typically work it out on those devices first and steer clear of ATT devices or Cricket as they rarely get the support from the community for things of this nature due to the total lockdown methods att seems to use on their devices in the past years to present. I would recommend HTC or Motorola as they seem to support unlocking officially on many more devices than other manufacturers and even still you may have to buy them directly from them vs the carrier as the carrier has the option most of the time to lock the bootloaders and customize the roms the way they want with all the bloatware etc. T-Mobile is also usually unlocked as well or at least easier to figure out a way to get unlocked vs ATT or Verizon, I am not sure about some of the smaller carriers but I think Metro PCS also has alot of devices that you can get unlocked fairly easy. I hope this sort of enlightens you to what exactly your asking for and educates you a little more for future reference. I am using Cricket as my carrier due to the cheaper price, no contracts and they use ATT towers which seem to have best reception in my area but their devices suck if you want to root and unlock the bootloader as they use the same firmware as the ATT phones and those too are mostly locked tight and most of them you cannot even get into the stock recovery without a no command message which does you no good at all, so I mostly order my devices from the net directly from the manufacturers and inquire beforehand on whether or not they support bootloader unlocking on them, or you can find good deals on swappa.com or sometimes ebay just make sure they are the right variant of the device your wanting, because sometimes you for instance have the LG X Power which on Cricket you cannot even get to Fastboot to even try to unlock the bootloader but on T-Mobile their variant probably would allow you to access it, the device would also be called LG X Power but the actual variant number would be different so you really gotta check all those things first. I really wanted to dev for this device too, but I quickly noticed that the chances of someone getting the thing unlocked were slim to none therefore I decided to move on. It is sad as the X Power does have some great potential to be made alot better with a custom kernel etc. but their is nobody with the knowledge needed really working on it at this time that I know of.

"they need to be compiled for each device independently"
So even if two people have the exact carrier model number, the CWM backup for one phone will not work for another phone (with a different MEID)?
I was trying to help give a CWM backup for people who have my carrier model phone, since I havent done the extra updates. But if its not possible...
"you wont ever be able to without an unlocked bootloader since 6.0 uses dm verity etc if you flash custom recovery or rom to this device without the unlock in effect."
So the downgrade to a lower android, then root, then update, doesnt work anymore (due to dm verity that prevents downgrading)? I have the LG Volt, and this was the method to root it.
"your safest bet in the future is to make an educated purchase before you decide to buy a new phone if you for sure want to be able to root and use custom anything."
I get what you are saying. Honestly, I just sort of assumed that someone would be able to hack it, since the hack comes out eventually. This phone is pretty new, or will get more popular with the black friday sale. Thus I think there is enough demand for people to work on this phone.
I had to do a quick buy since it was on sale. And I did research specs. I hate the new samsungs that dont have an LED notification. The flagships have it, but I couldnt afford those or the unlocks. So hopefully someone can find a solution to this good mid range phone with a high battery and octa core.
My LG Volt doesnt work anymore, so I need to get the new X power working soon
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PS I saw this before I bought the phone. Does it look legit? http://www.root-android.tech/2016/10/lg-x-power-8133.html
The link at "1." has one of those surveys to download it... so not sure if its a scam and the comments are fake? or...
How To Root LG X Power [Tutorial]
I rewrite this tutorial from forum.xda-developers.com :
1. Download Super-Root.apk for LG X Power from this link : Download or http://downloadsafe.org/file/0yF980
Tutorial Video : Easy Way To Download Super-Root.apk = http://how-to-root.com/10
2. Connect your device to your PC using the USB cable.
3. Copy the Super-Root.apk over to the root of your SD card.
4. Once it’s been copied, disconnect your device from your PC.
5. Head to Menu>>Settings>>Security on your device and enable the Unknown sources option.
6. Open the File Manager app on your device and install the app you copied earlier to your device.
7. Once the app’s been installed, launch it from your App Drawer.
8. Select Install SuperSU from the first dropdown menu.
9. Select exploit, tap on it in the app.
10. The app should begin rooting your device, shouldn’t take too long to finish.
11. Reboot your device once it’s been rooted.
12. You’re all done! Excellent! You’ve successfully rooted your Android device using the Super-Root.apk app and you should now be able to see the SuperSU app in your App Drawer!
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It works! Thank you!
Gary Mathews says
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This is not a simple tutorial, but it works. Thanks.
Daniel says
5 days ago
Finally, I found a working tutorial. Thanks
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*Im not a pro. Just compiling info for others to look over, and to save time by not searching/trying things that dont work.
*Ill edit and add to the list if people tried other methods that dont work to get to the LG menu on this X Power phone.
"To disable updates....you can go to dialer and dial *#LGMENU#*450# I think that's the code and it will give you some.menus where the 450 is if your model is other than k450 then use those numbers instead but in those menus their is one for disable it update sorry I don't have the device anymore to say."
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I tried this and it didnt work. *#LGMENU#*755#
(It called and a voice said Im not authorized to make this call).
The stats for the 2016 Boost version of the LG "X Power" are:
Model LGLS 755
Hardware rev.1.1
Android 6.0.1
Software version LS755ZV5
This didn't work either to get the LG menu: http://www.phonearena.com/news/How-to-access-the-hidden-service-menu-on-the-LG-G4_id71670
LG G4's service menu. To access it, you have to input the code 277634#*# into the dialer.
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These basic codes arent working either. "Android Common Codes." http://joyofandroid.com/android-secret-codes-hidden-menu-dialler-codes/
Display Info about device: *#*#4636#*#*
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The voice says "Your account is not authorized to make calls to this number."
So im not sure if the codes are restricted from working on this device. Or if its due to me not having a phone number or service set up yet.

This phone is very much worthy of trying to acquire root..hope someone will be able to figure it out.

Hope to get bootloader unlocking tool by lg soon.
See these already available tools.
http://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev?categoryTypeCode=ANRS

Pretty sure these will never be available for Sprint Boost Mobile phones

Source Code-
Vanilla ROM: http://opensource.lge.com/osSch/list?types=NAME&search=lgus610
Cricket ROM: http://opensource.lge.com/osSch/list?types=NAME&search=lgk450
The X Power has OEM Unlock option in Developer Settings, so it should be as simple as replacing the Cricket ROM with the stock ROM. LG releases these open source, so editing will be easier.
To enter download mode, turn off the device, hold volume down or volume up depending on your software while inserting the data cable. To exit download mode, hold power and volume down for 15 seconds.
To enter reset mode, hold volume down and power until the lg logo appears, then release power and immediately hold power again.
I still haven't been successful in entering fastboot to enable fastboot oem unlock

t5678 said:
I just got this phone. Boost version.
1) Teach me how to make an original ROM backup... before I do anything.
Some people said use CWM. But that requires root? which I dont have.
So what do I use? Someone tell me the app, and steps, and ill upload it for the community to work on.
Let's get this phone rooted
2) Ah f*ck. As I was writing it did some update without my permission. "com.lge.bnr."
A "system" update is pending but I wont start it.
How do I disable auto updates? It's not a normal google play update, but some system or LG thing.
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Press and hold update notification until you see an info icon (i) to the right and tap it to disable notifications for updates

Boost Mobile LG LS755 X Power
goitalone said:
Press and hold update notification until you see an i (info) icon to the right and tap it to disable notifications for updates
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Wondering if there is a way to make this X Power Boost/Sprint version (LS755) work on GSM carrier like AT&T or Rogers in Canada?
There is a sim restriction built in, so when I put in other than CDMA sim card, it restricts it. Maybe flash another ROM?
Thanks

DON'T upgrade to Nougat by OTA!

This has already discussed in other posts here BUT I continue to see A LOT of people waiting for Nougat OTA like Santa Claus should bring to them... (or, even worse, trying to push it in their phones... )
So, I make this post just to give more visibility to all...
I'll try to write it clear...
Don't update your Z to Nougat by OTA!
Is it clear enough? :laugh:
Now some explainations...
Over the the common generic motivations (difficulties when not in full stock conditions, risk to brick it during process, OTAs that are the Evil... ), there is a strong one in this case: Nougat OTA for Moto Z (silently...) upgrades your bootloader too, from v. 90.xx to v. 91.xx...
This isn't really needed (Nougat runs flawlessly on v.90.xx too... ) BUT it introduces some tighter rules on what you can and what you can't anymore boot on it, limiting hacking and upgrading (to developed third part ROMs...) possibilities...
One of this rules is that with v. 91.xx bootloader you can't anymore boot to MM ROM!
Considering that as of today it seems that bootloader can't be donwgraded (some have soft/hard bricked their Z trying to downgrade it...), Nougat upgrade by OTA is a one way process.
If you consider that stock Nougat seems to have some bugs and issues (and, as of today, no Xposed available...!) and that some (all?) third part Nougat ROMs requires "MM" (v. 90.xx) bootloader to work, it seems not to be a great idea leave that Motorola upgrades silently your bootloader...
So?
So, at present, the best method (IMHO...) to upgrade to Nougat is that one which is described in OP of this thread: you will have a full stock Nougat BUT with older bootloader and the possibility to easily return to MM or to whatever ROM you want...

I already did nougat via ota for my moto z droid... Does this affect anything? Also how do i flash a factory nougat on my moto z droid if i want to stsrt fresh?

xterminater07 said:
I already did nougat via ota for my moto z droid... Does this affect anything? Also how do i flash a factory nougat on my moto z droid if i want to stsrt fresh?
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Considering we on the Moto Z droid don't have an unlockable bootloader and/or ability to root I don't see it effecting you negatively, other than an exploit that may be discovered for marshmallow that would allow for root. We are at the mercy of a kind developer taking on the task. I really miss my hotspot without a fee... But I can go back to my Moto X if it is necessary.

xterminater07 said:
I already did nougat via ota for my moto z droid... Does this affect anything? Also how do i flash a factory nougat on my moto z droid if i want to stsrt fresh?
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I agree with dap... proposed solution can't be used since of unlocked bootloader, BUT if I had a Droid I would have remained sticky to first SW release as long as possible because of the higher probabilities of a flaw to hack and root it...
With Nougat and newer (even more "locked"...) bootloader it will be harder...

those are a lot of steps... is there a way to just hide the nag/update screen that pops up? it keeps wanting to update or ask for a time to update or reminds me to update etc

enetec said:
So, at present, the best method (IMHO...) to upgrade to Nougat is that one which is described in OP of this thread: you will have a full stock Nougat BUT with older bootloader and the possibility to easily return to MM or to whatever ROM you want...
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Does the method you linked to even work with the VZW variant? It looks like it used to, but the Verizon stuff is all marked through and I'm not clear on the process.

hmmmfff... I have updated mine using OTA.. now I want to back to MM... but no way to do that...

aatjitra said:
hmmmfff... I have updated mine using OTA.. now I want to back to MM... but no way to do that...
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Hello did you try to get down to MM? Thank you
regards

iron maiden said:
Hello did you try to get down to MM? Thank you
regards
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No. I didn't.
I read in other thread that bootloader v91 won't work with MM.

Moto Z ( UAE ) no OTA yet
HI,
can anyone suggest which android 7 update is to be used for UAE users and how to install manually ?

How can i disable the OTA Update app opening all the god damn time? I mean seriously, every time i lock the screen and turn it back on, it annoys me by saying i need to update to Android 7, I DON'T ****ING WANT TO! Can someone PLEASE tell me how to disable this?

yanniclord said:
How can i disable the OTA Update app opening all the god damn time? I mean seriously, every time i lock the screen and turn it back on, it annoys me by saying i need to update to Android 7, I DON'T ****ING WANT TO! Can someone PLEASE tell me how to disable this?
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You can't. The only thing you *can* do is tap the "Later" and then "Done" buttons. That will defer it for another 24 hours since it automatically fills in the phone's current time for the next check.
It's annoying, but it's only once a day.
EDIT: I thought you were referring to the VZW variant. If you're not and your phone is rooted, you might be able to disable or remove "Motorola Update Services". To do so, go to Settings > Apps > select "Show system" from menu (3 dots at top right) > scroll down and tap "Motorola Update Services"
I can't disable it on my VZW unit, but you might be able to. Or maybe you can remove the app via root (though I have no idea if that will cause further problems).

I too can confirm thr disabling motoservice in settings method. But you have to do it everytime you reboot your phone, it does t hurt me doing that.

I found a simple fix, get Titanium Backup and freeze that crap app, done.

yanniclord said:
I found a simple fix, get Titanium Backup and freeze that crap app, done.
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There is another way for users with root eventually...

saif_khans said:
HI,
can anyone suggest which android 7 update is to be used for UAE users and how to install manually ?
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Simply use the method linked in OP. It uses retmx sw.

True, I updated via Ota and now I can not install custom roms, will in the future have a solution to this problem? Because we all know that by unlocking the bootloader we lose the warranty, but we do this because we want to have options to install on our devices.
Could any dev have managed to fix this in the future roms?

sam564 said:
True, I updated via Ota and now I can not install custom roms, will in the future have a solution to this problem? Because we all know that by unlocking the bootloader we lose the warranty, but we do this because we want to have options to install on our devices.
Could any dev have managed to fix this in the future roms?
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Which variant do you have? @erfanoabdi suggested in another thread that they might have root figured out for the VZW variant in the next couple of days. No idea if what they're working on will be applicable to the Nougat.

rczrider said:
Which variant do you have? @erfanoabdi suggested in another thread that they might have root figured out for the VZW variant in the next couple of days. No idea if what they're working on will be applicable to the Nougat.
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Variants doesn't matter all moto z is using same kernel source (I have Chinese moto z)
Let me explain, I'm trying to port farm-root for moto z
Here's the source : https://github.com/freddierice/farm-root
If anyone knows how to deal with ndk and other Stuffs, can install TWRP with this version of farm-root
But I'm trying to make it easier and here's big barrier called SELinux

rczrider said:
Which variant do you have? @erfanoabdi suggested in another thread that they might have root figured out for the VZW variant in the next couple of days. No idea if what they're working on will be applicable to the Nougat.
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Hope it happens. The phone (accidentally?) Downloaded the update and is now asking to install. I'm afraid one day it'll just automatically update on it's own.. I can't seem to find where the system update got downloaded to, otherwise I'd delete it

Motog8 plus root

Does anyone know how to root? Till yet ?
Today IT was my Christmas.present
Thanks
Daniel

No source from motorola, nor updates yet.

Hello you can root your moto with magisk.

Mounib BOULAABI said:
Hello you can root your moto with magisk.
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If you have a copy of the boot.img
Sent from my mata using XDA Labs

Thanks by the way. I found i way to root my Device.

Please do tell, how?

Danieldergrosse said:
Thanks by the way. I found i way to root my Device.
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Would you mind sharing your way to root your device? Every piece of knowledge can help other users here on XDA.
Sent from my Moto G5 Plus using XDA Labs

http://androidbiits.com/root-motorola-moto-g8-plus-xt2019-2-xt2019-1-easily/
This method

Danieldergrosse said:
http://androidbiits.com/root-motorola-moto-g8-plus-xt2019-2-xt2019-1-easily/
This method
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your link seems dead or not correct. - edit: link correct, was not working due to my vpn...
I assume he patched a G8+ boot.img with magisk manager.
boot image can be extracted from official Doha firmware found here: https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/doha/official/
manual on how to do this can be found on official magisk manager website.
be aware that when unlocking bootloader your phone will reset to factory settings.

This is what I did. Yes..

Worked great for my G8+. I guess people should just check which stock ROM file they get from lolinet to make sure it's the right one. I say that because, in my case, lolinet list had two files for the Brazilian stock ROM. I went to Settings / About / Version number and downloaded the matching file. Don't know whether the other file would work the same or not. Just didn't want to risk having any issue since G8+ is somewhat new and there's not much info on solving root problems on the Internet.

Hi,
Couple of questions
Does the Bootloader have to be Unlocked to flash the modified Boot image?
Or can I use update option?
Are Motorola releasing unlock numbers for Bootloader now?
Thanks, Carl

carl.13 said:
Hi,
Couple of questions
Does the Bootloader have to be Unlocked to flash the modified Boot image?
Or can I use update option?
Are Motorola releasing unlock numbers for Bootloader now?
Thanks, Carl
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Hello, Carl. I guess it's not possible unless there's a flaw in the security. There are some articles on the Internet about that. Google "is-there-a-way-to-root-an-android-phone-without-unlocking-the-bootloader". I can't post URLs yet.
As for Motorola devices, I was able to unlock the bootloader without problems on my G8+, last week. The only caveat, I'm my case, is that I had to wait some days for the unlock bootloader option be available under developer options. It was disabled by default in my G8+. And, yes, they're releasing bootloader unlocking codes.

THANKS!

Have anybody with a rooted device tried to get wide angle camera working in gcam ports?
Thanks.

successfully rooted my Moto G8 Plus using the info in this thread
but for some reason I can't delete bloatware, even by deleting apps from root browsers or trying few solution I found on google

esrd43 said:
successfully rooted my Moto G8 Plus using the info in this thread
but for some reason I can't delete bloatware, even by deleting apps from root browsers or trying few solution I found on google
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magisk module debloater and also sdmaid helped with most of the bloatware, the only thing I could not remove was google files but I just deactivated it.

a really weird thing happened with the April 1st update, basically the update started automatically and it failed at 3/6 so I tought I should restart my phone and test it again, but it got stuck in bootloop and I had to reflash a rom with fastboot cmd.
I think that's because I unlocked the bootloader and rooted my phone, cause u lose the right for updates after you do that, but for some reason lenovo/moto update system goes automatically the next second u connect to the internet and fails halfway thru so u have a higher chance to ruin your phone or something, instead of denying the update from the start
so the solution I found was to try and delete "moto update service" app that I can't force stop or disable but I couldnt find it in system/app or system/priv-app, that's because the app name is "3c_ota", so deleting that with SD Maid app worked and the "update system" option in settings is reverted to a sort of default android one that lets you check manually.

Had a similiar issue. I soft bricked my phone (bootloop) and installed a stock rom from an unofficial source. The funny thing is, this version did make like 3 or 4 system upgrades to PPSI.29.65-51 without any issue. But the 1st April updated failed to install. I then flashed the official 1st april stock image with the moto rescue and smart assistant. After that, the official ROM tells me my phone is not allowed to do updates because the security of this phone is compromised and I should contact lenovo support
Those upates are kinda annoying if they don't work, I guess I'll just completey flash the phone every 6-12 months with the moto assistant.

yeah you should always have a backup rom that you can download with moto assistant or from lolinet g8 roms (https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/doha/official/)
I also got the same message saying that my phone is compromised ( unlocked bootloader + rooted) and it won't receive any further updates, but I just deleted the "3c_ota" app (the moto update service) which is bad cause if forces automatic updates the second u connect to internet.
I'm not going to touch any further updates or security patches until android 10, which I will attempt to flash via moto assistant