This has already discussed in other posts here BUT I continue to see A LOT of people waiting for Nougat OTA like Santa Claus should bring to them... (or, even worse, trying to push it in their phones... )
So, I make this post just to give more visibility to all...
I'll try to write it clear...
Don't update your Z to Nougat by OTA!
Is it clear enough? :laugh:
Now some explainations...
Over the the common generic motivations (difficulties when not in full stock conditions, risk to brick it during process, OTAs that are the Evil... ), there is a strong one in this case: Nougat OTA for Moto Z (silently...) upgrades your bootloader too, from v. 90.xx to v. 91.xx...
This isn't really needed (Nougat runs flawlessly on v.90.xx too... ) BUT it introduces some tighter rules on what you can and what you can't anymore boot on it, limiting hacking and upgrading (to developed third part ROMs...) possibilities...
One of this rules is that with v. 91.xx bootloader you can't anymore boot to MM ROM!
Considering that as of today it seems that bootloader can't be donwgraded (some have soft/hard bricked their Z trying to downgrade it...), Nougat upgrade by OTA is a one way process.
If you consider that stock Nougat seems to have some bugs and issues (and, as of today, no Xposed available...!) and that some (all?) third part Nougat ROMs requires "MM" (v. 90.xx) bootloader to work, it seems not to be a great idea leave that Motorola upgrades silently your bootloader...
So?
So, at present, the best method (IMHO...) to upgrade to Nougat is that one which is described in OP of this thread: you will have a full stock Nougat BUT with older bootloader and the possibility to easily return to MM or to whatever ROM you want...
I already did nougat via ota for my moto z droid... Does this affect anything? Also how do i flash a factory nougat on my moto z droid if i want to stsrt fresh?
xterminater07 said:
I already did nougat via ota for my moto z droid... Does this affect anything? Also how do i flash a factory nougat on my moto z droid if i want to stsrt fresh?
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Considering we on the Moto Z droid don't have an unlockable bootloader and/or ability to root I don't see it effecting you negatively, other than an exploit that may be discovered for marshmallow that would allow for root. We are at the mercy of a kind developer taking on the task. I really miss my hotspot without a fee... But I can go back to my Moto X if it is necessary.
xterminater07 said:
I already did nougat via ota for my moto z droid... Does this affect anything? Also how do i flash a factory nougat on my moto z droid if i want to stsrt fresh?
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I agree with dap... proposed solution can't be used since of unlocked bootloader, BUT if I had a Droid I would have remained sticky to first SW release as long as possible because of the higher probabilities of a flaw to hack and root it...
With Nougat and newer (even more "locked"...) bootloader it will be harder...
those are a lot of steps... is there a way to just hide the nag/update screen that pops up? it keeps wanting to update or ask for a time to update or reminds me to update etc
enetec said:
So, at present, the best method (IMHO...) to upgrade to Nougat is that one which is described in OP of this thread: you will have a full stock Nougat BUT with older bootloader and the possibility to easily return to MM or to whatever ROM you want...
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Does the method you linked to even work with the VZW variant? It looks like it used to, but the Verizon stuff is all marked through and I'm not clear on the process.
hmmmfff... I have updated mine using OTA.. now I want to back to MM... but no way to do that...
aatjitra said:
hmmmfff... I have updated mine using OTA.. now I want to back to MM... but no way to do that...
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Hello did you try to get down to MM? Thank you
regards
iron maiden said:
Hello did you try to get down to MM? Thank you
regards
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No. I didn't.
I read in other thread that bootloader v91 won't work with MM.
Moto Z ( UAE ) no OTA yet
HI,
can anyone suggest which android 7 update is to be used for UAE users and how to install manually ?
How can i disable the OTA Update app opening all the god damn time? I mean seriously, every time i lock the screen and turn it back on, it annoys me by saying i need to update to Android 7, I DON'T ****ING WANT TO! Can someone PLEASE tell me how to disable this?
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How can i disable the OTA Update app opening all the god damn time? I mean seriously, every time i lock the screen and turn it back on, it annoys me by saying i need to update to Android 7, I DON'T ****ING WANT TO! Can someone PLEASE tell me how to disable this?
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You can't. The only thing you *can* do is tap the "Later" and then "Done" buttons. That will defer it for another 24 hours since it automatically fills in the phone's current time for the next check.
It's annoying, but it's only once a day.
EDIT: I thought you were referring to the VZW variant. If you're not and your phone is rooted, you might be able to disable or remove "Motorola Update Services". To do so, go to Settings > Apps > select "Show system" from menu (3 dots at top right) > scroll down and tap "Motorola Update Services"
I can't disable it on my VZW unit, but you might be able to. Or maybe you can remove the app via root (though I have no idea if that will cause further problems).
I too can confirm thr disabling motoservice in settings method. But you have to do it everytime you reboot your phone, it does t hurt me doing that.
I found a simple fix, get Titanium Backup and freeze that crap app, done.
yanniclord said:
I found a simple fix, get Titanium Backup and freeze that crap app, done.
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There is another way for users with root eventually...
saif_khans said:
HI,
can anyone suggest which android 7 update is to be used for UAE users and how to install manually ?
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Simply use the method linked in OP. It uses retmx sw.
True, I updated via Ota and now I can not install custom roms, will in the future have a solution to this problem? Because we all know that by unlocking the bootloader we lose the warranty, but we do this because we want to have options to install on our devices.
Could any dev have managed to fix this in the future roms?
sam564 said:
True, I updated via Ota and now I can not install custom roms, will in the future have a solution to this problem? Because we all know that by unlocking the bootloader we lose the warranty, but we do this because we want to have options to install on our devices.
Could any dev have managed to fix this in the future roms?
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Which variant do you have? @erfanoabdi suggested in another thread that they might have root figured out for the VZW variant in the next couple of days. No idea if what they're working on will be applicable to the Nougat.
rczrider said:
Which variant do you have? @erfanoabdi suggested in another thread that they might have root figured out for the VZW variant in the next couple of days. No idea if what they're working on will be applicable to the Nougat.
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Variants doesn't matter all moto z is using same kernel source (I have Chinese moto z)
Let me explain, I'm trying to port farm-root for moto z
Here's the source : https://github.com/freddierice/farm-root
If anyone knows how to deal with ndk and other Stuffs, can install TWRP with this version of farm-root
But I'm trying to make it easier and here's big barrier called SELinux
rczrider said:
Which variant do you have? @erfanoabdi suggested in another thread that they might have root figured out for the VZW variant in the next couple of days. No idea if what they're working on will be applicable to the Nougat.
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Hope it happens. The phone (accidentally?) Downloaded the update and is now asking to install. I'm afraid one day it'll just automatically update on it's own.. I can't seem to find where the system update got downloaded to, otherwise I'd delete it
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Hello, has anybody that owns a Moto G XT1028 (U.S Verizon) gotten the Android Lollipop update yet? I'm in need to know becuase i want to purchase a Moto G for Dev purposes but i would like it to be running Android Lollipop after purchase and checking for system updates. Btw im purchasing it 06/22/15. Please post screenshots if you have them.
If you do own one that has Lollipop could you please make a quick review, including the following topics.
- Battery life
- Preformance
- Any bugs
I would greatly appreciate it.
I was wondering the same thing ... I own a Moto G XT1028 (Verizon) but im still on Android 4.4.4 KitKat. I constiently check for updates almost daily. If i don't recieve the Android Lollipop update within the next 14 days, I'm: rooting, unlocking the botloader, installing a custom recovery and putting Cm12 on it. I originally didn't want to do that for warranty and safety reasons but i feel the need to have Lollipop. The update is way over due ...
There is no Lollipop firmware for the XT1028.
Sent from my XT1031
Motorola states "This device will be upgraded to the Android 5 Lollipop release of Android, pending partner support." here: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/software-upgrade-news/g_id/1949
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I was wondering the same thing ... I own a Moto G XT1028 (Verizon) but im still on Android 4.4.4 KitKat. I constiently check for updates almost daily. If i don't recieve the Android Lollipop update within the next 14 days, I'm: rooting, unlocking the botloader, installing a custom recovery and putting Cm12 on it. I originally didn't want to do that for warranty and safety reasons but i feel the need to have Lollipop. The update is way over due ...
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You can't root anyhow, unfortunately
aoleg said:
Motorola states "This device will be upgraded to the Android 5 Lollipop release of Android, pending partner support." here: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/software-upgrade-news/g_id/1949
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Motorola has been saying that since Lollipop came out in November of last year. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it if I were you.
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I was wondering the same thing ... I own a Moto G XT1028 (Verizon) but im still on Android 4.4.4 KitKat. I constiently check for updates almost daily. If i don't recieve the Android Lollipop update within the next 14 days, I'm: rooting, unlocking the botloader, installing a custom recovery and putting Cm12 on it. I originally didn't want to do that for warranty and safety reasons but i feel the need to have Lollipop. The update is way over due ...
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I rooted my xt1028 over a year ago after paying a "chinese middleman" $45 for a bootloader unlock code. Since then I have installed soooooooooo many roms, first Kitkat and then Lollipop. I must say that imo stock 4.4.4 Kitkat is better than anything else you can install on the xt1028. Every rom out there has one bug or another and even though you can do more customization with non-stock roms, it seems to be at the expense of better performance and battery life with stock. As for lollipop, I ran a lot of lollipop roms and I do not like it. Too many kiddie colors and childish building block icons. Google acts as if they are making their operating system for a bunch of kindergartners.
Oh, and other than paying someone for an unlock code, you can forget rooting the xt1028 or unlocking its' bootloader because Verizon has the phone on total lockdown.
Verizon can have my x1028 junk ass phone and I am going to get something else and straightalk..
still holding out hope that Verizon will push out an update. they just updated the first gen Moto X to Lollipop, so perhaps the Moto G is next in line...
How you unlock the bootloader in the xt1028,I can't unlocked, funking verizon
motoinspri said:
I was wondering the same thing ... I own a Moto G XT1028 (Verizon) but im still on Android 4.4.4 KitKat. I constiently check for updates almost daily. If i don't recieve the Android Lollipop update within the next 14 days, I'm: rooting, unlocking the botloader, installing a custom recovery and putting Cm12 on it. I originally didn't want to do that for warranty and safety reasons but i feel the need to have Lollipop. The update is way over due ...
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we stayed last
XT1028 lollipop is out!
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XT1028 lollipop is out!
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Unfortunately, my wife is in a quite sticky situation. Verizon locked the device so it can't be activated, but that's not really the problem... We can't figure out how to bypass the Setup Guide (all the old ways are now patched). Can't use it until that's figured out.
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XT1028 lollipop is out!
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I confirm my XT1028, also adopted the Android 5.1
Just got mine. Maybe the root community can crack this one. Maybe a better chance on rooting this version.
The same here
DamianHelixTV said:
Unfortunately, my wife is in a quite sticky situation. Verizon locked the device so it can't be activated, but that's not really the problem... We can't figure out how to bypass the Setup Guide (all the old ways are now patched). Can't use it until that's figured out.
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I have the same problem, this has a solution?
deathkryz said:
I have the same problem, this has a solution?
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I hope the wonderful Android community does what I think it'll do and figure out a bypass to the new Lollipop Setup Wizard.
DamianHelixTV said:
I hope the wonderful Android community does what I think it'll do and figure out a bypass to the new Lollipop Setup Wizard.
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Hoping for a solution as well, as I only use the device on WiFi.
I suppose I'll hold off on installing the update, for now.
can anyone with a bootloader unlocked XT1028 pull the 5.1 partitions and post them? or has anyone seen the stock partitions for 5.1 anywhere?
as for those stuck at the setup guide... was data wiped causing you to have to set the device up? or does it force the setup guide either way?
hopefully someone can post the images so I can get my device out of fastboot mode and poke around
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can anyone with a bootloader unlocked XT1028 pull the 5.1 partitions and post them? or has anyone seen the stock partitions for 5.1 anywhere?
as for those stuck at the setup guide... was data wiped causing you to have to set the device up? or does it force the setup guide either way?
hopefully someone can post the images so I can get my device out of fastboot mode and poke around
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There's someone reporting on Reddit that he got past it by deleting the cache repeatedly in recovery mode. I might go ahead and update, just for the heck of it.
http://www.reddit.com/r/motog/comme..._update_notification_on_xt1028verizon/cx03pe5
UPDATE: I updated, and everything works great! I didn't have to set up the device, it just carried over everything with the new look. I have no idea why anyone would be stuck at the activation screen, when I didn't even have to set it up again...weird
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can anyone with a bootloader unlocked XT1028 pull the 5.1 partitions and post them? or has anyone seen the stock partitions for 5.1 anywhere?
as for those stuck at the setup guide... was data wiped causing you to have to set the device up? or does it force the setup guide either way?
hopefully someone can post the images so I can get my device out of fastboot mode and poke around
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The reason I'm stuck at Setup is because after the update we factory reset (it updated just fine, just wanted a 'fresh' start)
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Belac77 said:
There's someone reporting on Reddit that he got past it by deleting the cache repeatedly in recovery mode. I might go ahead and update, just for the heck of it.
UPDATE: I updated, and everything works great! I didn't have to set up the device, it just carried over everything with the new look. I have no idea why anyone would be stuck at the activation screen, when I didn't even have to set it up again...weird
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Thank you! Will test NOW. Well if I can ever get the recovery menu to show up.
Hey guys... Does anyone know when I should expect my update to Oreo OTA. I don't plan on becoming a beta tester or flashing it myself.
So if anyone has an idea of when Oreo will be pushed out to the masses, I'd appreciate it!
Thanks!
connorhiller said:
Hey guys... Does anyone know when I should expect my update to Oreo OTA. I don't plan on becoming a beta tester or flashing it myself.
So if anyone has an idea of when Oreo will be pushed out to the masses, I'd appreciate it!
Thanks!
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I'm in the same boat. No one knows yet. There are not even factory images available nor full OTA images on the google site here.
https://developers.google.com/android/images
Until such time as they appear don't sweat it. After they do then you can re-ask your question but you'll probably get it before you can hit send. Someone said they got an OTA on Verizon from 7.1.2 to 8.0 but I'm a little leery of that claim since no one else I've seen has received it.
I believe it was destined for the Aug 21 deadline but some major problems have arisen and I believe it was pulled for further testing. Bluetooth is one of them, random rebooting, stuff like was on some dp4 devices. I also saw some volume control issues too. Yes, I know others haven't had issues and someone will post a link to the factory images on the android site but that doesn't help any of us with locked bootloaders. Besides the fact that I like the background install and being able to use the phone while it's updating. Then a simple reboot and you're done. It'll happen soon but no one knows when yet.
I am in UK and I have already received for Oreo OTA on Google Pixel set.
It can be flashfire updated as well for root purpose.
sitnaing said:
I am in UK and I have already received for Oreo OTA on Google Pixel set.
It can be flashfire updated as well for root purpose.
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So you were on stock 7.1.2, locked bootloader, not rooted and you received an OTA to 8.0? I'm not sure what you mean by flashfire updated. An OTA installs in the background.
bobby janow said:
So you were on stock 7.1.2, locked bootloader, not rooted and you received an OTA to 8.0? I'm not sure what you mean by flashfire updated. An OTA installs in the background.
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I am on 7.1.2 unlock bootloader with root.
You should also have received ota update if you are on locked bootloader with no root.
Some of ota roll out dependent on carrier. But if yours is google set, you would be able to receive by now.
sitnaing said:
I am on 7.1.2 unlock bootloader with root.
You should also have received ota update if you are on locked bootloader with no root.
Some of ota roll out dependent on carrier. But if yours is google set, you would be able to receive by now.
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Well that's a bit of good news. One thing is that on G+ no one has posted the inevitable screenshot of the OTA notification (which are at best annoying but they do it anyway), so it must be rolling out very slowly. The other thing is that once an OTA is released the system images are usually available with the OTA images shortly thereafter. I don't see either of those at this point.
I mean I'm gonna wait and I'm sure it'll be here, but the question is when. I'm on VZW so they might be tweaking some things before the let Google release it. Not sure how that works.
Did yours install in the background and then a reboot to 8.0? How long was the bootup process if you watched it?
For carrier, like you said roll out will take some time. For me, time taken is similar to update and reboot as normal security patch monthly update where it should take longer as this is the whole different version. May be backbone still same but with just UI change and some tweaks.
Just got it 30min ago, The android on it now is 6.0 emui 4.1 and it wants me too update too 7.0 5.0. Is it ok too update too it now before unlocking the bootloader and root?
Why i ask is i think it would be a good idea too test the phone for a few days first too make sure it has no issues.
Also from reviews and from what i herd about the phone from others. They say the back plate is metal? From what i can tell its plastic on mine is that normal? Or did they just meant its a metal like finish?
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Just got it 30min ago, The android on it now is 6.0 emui 4.1 and it wants me too update too 7.0 5.0. Is it ok too update too it now before unlocking the bootloader and root?
Why i ask is i think it would be a good idea too test the phone for a few days first too make sure it has no issues.
Also from reviews and from what i herd about the phone from others. They say the back plate is metal? From what i can tell its plastic on mine is that normal? Or did they just meant its a metal like finish?
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Welcome on board!
I suggest you to update the system and testing it a while before unlocking the bootloader, just to be sure it's OK.
The back of my phone it's like gray metal, I can't tell if it's real or plastic. Feels like metal though.
You could check some videos on the web to see if your phone it's just like the other.
Goodnight
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Landrea said:
Welcome on board!
I suggest you to update the system and testing it a while before unlocking the bootloader, just to be sure it's OK.
The back of my phone it's like gray metal, I can't tell if it's real or plastic. Feels like metal though.
You could check some videos on the web to see if your phone it's just like the other.
Goodnight
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Thanks
Just did the update a hour ago
And yea its hard too tell sense some metals can feel like plastic lol But im pretty sure its metal now reviews says the top and bottom edges are plastic but the middle part is metal and i still have the plastic cover on the back so its a bit hard too tell lol.
So far its working great i probably will run it for couple days before i do anything too it bootloader etc.
Big performance boost from my old htc droid the droid is still a decent device but the battery is on its way out will ony hold about a 50% charge:/ and max it runs is 6.0 and the biggest issue is no mico sd slot...
welcome
So far still running great really loving the performance!
I have question tho. Under security it says patch level march 2017. Is that normal? or should i be on a newest date?
Its on 7.0 5.0 build number b360 and says there's isn't a new update.
Model is bln-l24 us.
gordesky1 said:
So far still running great really loving the performance!
I have question tho. Under security it says patch level march 2017. Is that normal? or should i be on a newest date?
Its on 7.0 5.0 build number b360 and says there's isn't a new update.
Model is bln-l24 us.
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The US version doesn’t get timely security patches from Huawei.
gordesky1 said:
So far still running great really loving the performance!
I have question tho. Under security it says patch level march 2017. Is that normal? or should i be on a newest date?
Its on 7.0 5.0 build number b360 and says there's isn't a new update.
Model is bln-l24 us.
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I have the US model and it just got an update to EMUI 5.0.1 tonight. The update probably has bug fixes, but I know it comes with the October security update for sure.
SenyorMauricio said:
I have the US model and it just got an update to EMUI 5.0.1 tonight. The update probably has bug fixes, but I know it comes with the October security update for sure.
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Hmm so far nothing for me. Maybe it takes time too roll out too others.
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Hmm so far nothing for me. Maybe it takes time too roll out too others.
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It rolls out in batches if new OTA comes. However, for regualr or old update it comes very quickly once you insert the sim. You may wait for couple of days though before trying anything new
So looks like everything is fine on this phone hardware wise So im looking into unlocking the boot loader and doing root but want too keep the stock feeling.
When i go too this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-6x/how-to/root-huawei-honor-6x-install-twrp-t3671822 and when going too twrp i see they saying fastboot flash recovery twrp-3.1.1-0-berlin.img..
Is there a img for the usa model? Or will the berlin.img work too?
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It rolls out in batches if new OTA comes. However, for regualr or old update it comes very quickly once you insert the sim. You may wait for couple of days though before trying anything new
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Should i wait doing the bootloader and root?
When looking for root all i see its for other versions like berlin. unless that works for the usa model too?
Hmm just noticed the thread i posted is yours lol
Does it work with the usa model? what got me hang up is the berlin step.
i just unlocked the bootloader Tried doing it with the UC browser on the device and it wouldn't load the sites in the guide... But it worked doing on this page and doing it from my pc. https://www.gadgetcreed.com/100-working-huawei-honor-6x-unlock-bootloader-guide/
Gave me my unlock code and i followed the guide and it worked OEM unlock was showing for me too which says some users wont have it on 5.0.
Now for root question. Will i still get updates if i root? I probably wont mess with custom roms for awhile cause i like the stock look lol
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i just unlocked the bootloader Tried doing it with the UC browser on the device and it wouldn't load the sites in the guide... But it worked doing on this page and doing it from my pc. https://www.gadgetcreed.com/100-working-huawei-honor-6x-unlock-bootloader-guide/
Gave me my unlock code and i followed the guide and it worked OEM unlock was showing for me too which says some users wont have it on 5.0.
Now for root question. Will i still get updates if i root? I probably wont mess with custom roms for awhile cause i like the stock look lol
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You will still receive OTA updates; however, I don't know if they'll install on your device properly after rooting. If you get an update, I'd recommend unrooting, reflashing the stock bootloader, and then relocking the bootloader. The Android 8.0 update is likely to come out for the Honor 6x in December or January, so I wouldn't have rooted now if I were you. I think 8.0 might be the last major update for the Honor 6x for a while, so I would recommend rooting then, honestly. Even the guys who make the Stock ROMs (Open Kirin) stopped development for Nougat in favor of Oreo ROMs, so many of the Nougat stock Android ROMs are buggy.
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You will still receive OTA updates; however, I don't know if they'll install on your device properly after rooting. If you get an update, I'd recommend unrooting, reflashing the stock bootloader, and then relocking the bootloader. The Android 8.0 update is likely to come out for the Honor 6x in December or January, so I wouldn't have rooted now if I were you. I think 8.0 might be the last major update for the Honor 6x for a while, so I would recommend rooting then, honestly. Even the guys who make the Stock ROMs (Open Kirin) stopped development for Nougat in favor of Oreo ROMs, so many of the Nougat stock Android ROMs are buggy.
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Oh i ony did the unlocking boot loader so best case is too just wait not rooting it right now till when 8.0 comes out? Having the boot loader unlocked wont effect updates etc tho right?
But yea i was ony going too root for the root apps and the trwp recovery but stay on the stock rom that comes with it.
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Oh i ony did the unlocking boot loader so best case is too just wait not rooting it right now till when 8.0 comes out? Having the boot loader unlocked wont effect updates etc tho right?
But yea i was ony going too root for the root apps and the trwp recovery but stay on the stock rom that comes with it.
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You will get OTA but wont be able to install as boot.img modified. Best way in that case would be to flash the stock boot.img, stoct recovery.img and proceed with ota download and installation.
Or other way, be as it is, download full firmware and update via Dload. These manual update is way faster before OTA even rolls out.
gordesky1 said:
Just got it 30min ago, The android on it now is 6.0 emui 4.1 and it wants me too update too 7.0 5.0. Is it ok too update too it now before unlocking the bootloader and root?
Why i ask is i think it would be a good idea too test the phone for a few days first too make sure it has no issues.
Also from reviews and from what i herd about the phone from others. They say the back plate is metal? From what i can tell its plastic on mine is that normal? Or did they just meant its a metal like finish?
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I have also recently purchased honor 6x , and mine also is on 6.0 emui 4.1.3, by checking system update it says no updates, have you found any solution ( also i dont want to unlock bootloder and root my device , so please suggest other than this)
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You will get OTA but wont be able to install as boot.img modified. Best way in that case would be to flash the stock boot.img, stoct recovery.img and proceed with ota download and installation.
Or other way, be as it is, download full firmware and update via Dload. These manual update is way faster before OTA even rolls out.
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You mean if i root? Or the unlock bootloader for the ota updates part?
And whats Dload mean? Did some research and found out what dload means its doing it manual from the dload folder on a sd card
Sorry for these stupid questions hehe i been out of the loop with this phone stuff for awhile lol
NinadMestry said:
I have also recently purchased honor 6x , and mine also is on 6.0 emui 4.1.3, by checking system update it says no updates, have you found any solution ( also i dont want to unlock bootloder and root my device , so please suggest other than this)
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Mine had the update from the start when i click check for updates for 7.0 5.0.
gordesky1 said:
Mine had the update from the start when i click check for updates for 7.0 5.0.
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my honor 6x is indian variant bln-l22
whats yours
NinadMestry said:
my honor 6x is indian variant bln-l22
whats yours
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bln l24 usa model
My note 8 had OneUI pushed to it about a week ago even though I kept refusing not wanting to while I was sleeping. It says my bootloader is v5. This is actually what it says (N950USQU5DSD3). My problem is that when I search for the firmware I'm wanting to downgrade to (the last oreo update possible for this particular phone) on Sammobile I can't find the one for At&t. I see ones for Verizon, sprint, etc. But nothing for at&t, which one am I supposed to use and where can I get it? This is going to be my very first downgrade/upgrade, really my first time doing anything like it on android. And I CAN do this right? There's nothing I should be aware of that makes what I'm trying to do not able to be done is there? The biggest reason I'm asking is because I have very limited tools to work with, I have a little 12" Acer aspire one (no disk drive) running windows 7 home basic, mobile hotspot from my wife's phone(the last software I tried to download and use came from xda out of a thread I found titled, "Stock Oreo N950USQS5CRF6 Odin*files*for AT&T*NOTE*8" it failed halfway through 2 nights ago during the beginning of storm, and the whole time it would only download around 32kbs so it literally to FOREVER! Only for it to fail halfway through. Was I wasting my time or was this in fact the firmware I'm looking for? If not, as I asked before, where could I find it?? Thanks a bunch for any help.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/at...n950u-stock-n950usqs5crf6-odin-files-t3821222
^^^^^^^Is this all I need? Do I need to follow this tutorial or a different one?? What version of odin, do I need anything else
Sorry for so much all at once, I really hate this update and want Oreo back.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...m-n950u-u1-t3685884/post74087340#post74087340
Follow the steps from the above-linked post, and follow them very carefully. I did, and I was able to successfully downgrade from Pie to Oreo on my AT&T NOTE8.
I actually flashed the unlocked firmware, which has zero AT&T bloat. It works just fine for my needs. I don't think AT&T WiFi calling works on this unlocked firmware (I haven't tried - I don't use it).
Caveat emptor: whichever version of Oreo you choose (either the AT&T stock, or the unlocked firmware), we are stuck on the February 2019 Android security patch.
Only Pie gets the latest security patches. As long as you are ok with this, then proceed with the downgrade to Oreo!
pyrolad said:
Caveat emptor: whichever version of Oreo you choose (either the AT&T stock, or the unlocked firmware), we are stuck on the February 2019 Android security patch.
Only Pie gets the latest security patches. As long as you are ok with this, then proceed with the downgrade to Oreo!
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A little off topic, but has anyone seen an AT&T security update for May yet? I'm still on April security, and it's basically mid June?
Tha k you I'll check it out when I get off work, I didn't know you could flash the unlocked firmware on a carrier locked phone
Let me get this straight. Can a locked bootloader AT&T SM-N9500U on Android 9, N9500USQU5DSD3 downgrade to Oreo? I thought this bootloader whould not let you go back.
I LOATH Pie and wan to go back to Oreo so bad, please tell me there is a for sure way. This is my first permanently locked bootloader phone and it's killing me not to flash an software I prefer.
I dont know I wish someone could tell me forsure whether it will work or not because now my phone is getting another software update notification so it's getting ready to force another update on me and I doubt after that I will still have bootloader v5. Can someone please verify whether my current bootloader (N9500USQU5DSD3) will downgrade successfully to back to oreo or not? I have the oreo firmware I want to use downloaded and ready to go which is (SM-N950USQU5CRL1). Can I downgrade to this without messing anything up?? Please I need a fast reply I dont want this new update forced to my phone and updating my bootloader to v5 where I can ever go back to oreo.
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Let me get this straight. Can a locked bootloader AT&T SM-N9500U on Android 9, N9500USQU5DSD3 downgrade to Oreo? I thought this bootloader whould not let you go back.
I LOATH Pie and wan to go back to Oreo so bad, please tell me there is a for sure way. This is my first permanently locked bootloader phone and it's killing me not to flash an software I prefer.
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Yes you CAN downgrade back to Oreo. BUT you MUST go to a bootloader 5 firmware.
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Superloud024 said:
I dont know I wish someone could tell me forsure whether it will work or not because now my phone is getting another software update notification so it's getting ready to force another update on me and I doubt after that I will still have bootloader v5. Can someone please verify whether my current bootloader (N9500USQU5DSD3) will downgrade successfully to back to oreo or not? I have the oreo firmware I want to use downloaded and ready to go which is (SM-N950USQU5CRL1). Can I downgrade to this without messing anything up?? Please I need a fast reply I dont want this new update forced to my phone and updating my bootloader to v5 where I can ever go back to oreo.
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Yes you can go to that firmware. You will want to back up and allow it to factory reset. Be sure to use the modified version of Odin. Go HERE, post #2
Does anyone know how to root? Till yet ?
Today IT was my Christmas.present
Thanks
Daniel
No source from motorola, nor updates yet.
Hello you can root your moto with magisk.
Mounib BOULAABI said:
Hello you can root your moto with magisk.
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If you have a copy of the boot.img
Sent from my mata using XDA Labs
Thanks by the way. I found i way to root my Device.
Please do tell, how?
Danieldergrosse said:
Thanks by the way. I found i way to root my Device.
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Would you mind sharing your way to root your device? Every piece of knowledge can help other users here on XDA.
Sent from my Moto G5 Plus using XDA Labs
http://androidbiits.com/root-motorola-moto-g8-plus-xt2019-2-xt2019-1-easily/
This method
Danieldergrosse said:
http://androidbiits.com/root-motorola-moto-g8-plus-xt2019-2-xt2019-1-easily/
This method
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your link seems dead or not correct. - edit: link correct, was not working due to my vpn...
I assume he patched a G8+ boot.img with magisk manager.
boot image can be extracted from official Doha firmware found here: https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/doha/official/
manual on how to do this can be found on official magisk manager website.
be aware that when unlocking bootloader your phone will reset to factory settings.
This is what I did. Yes..
Worked great for my G8+. I guess people should just check which stock ROM file they get from lolinet to make sure it's the right one. I say that because, in my case, lolinet list had two files for the Brazilian stock ROM. I went to Settings / About / Version number and downloaded the matching file. Don't know whether the other file would work the same or not. Just didn't want to risk having any issue since G8+ is somewhat new and there's not much info on solving root problems on the Internet.
Hi,
Couple of questions
Does the Bootloader have to be Unlocked to flash the modified Boot image?
Or can I use update option?
Are Motorola releasing unlock numbers for Bootloader now?
Thanks, Carl
carl.13 said:
Hi,
Couple of questions
Does the Bootloader have to be Unlocked to flash the modified Boot image?
Or can I use update option?
Are Motorola releasing unlock numbers for Bootloader now?
Thanks, Carl
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Hello, Carl. I guess it's not possible unless there's a flaw in the security. There are some articles on the Internet about that. Google "is-there-a-way-to-root-an-android-phone-without-unlocking-the-bootloader". I can't post URLs yet.
As for Motorola devices, I was able to unlock the bootloader without problems on my G8+, last week. The only caveat, I'm my case, is that I had to wait some days for the unlock bootloader option be available under developer options. It was disabled by default in my G8+. And, yes, they're releasing bootloader unlocking codes.
THANKS!
Have anybody with a rooted device tried to get wide angle camera working in gcam ports?
Thanks.
successfully rooted my Moto G8 Plus using the info in this thread
but for some reason I can't delete bloatware, even by deleting apps from root browsers or trying few solution I found on google
esrd43 said:
successfully rooted my Moto G8 Plus using the info in this thread
but for some reason I can't delete bloatware, even by deleting apps from root browsers or trying few solution I found on google
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magisk module debloater and also sdmaid helped with most of the bloatware, the only thing I could not remove was google files but I just deactivated it.
a really weird thing happened with the April 1st update, basically the update started automatically and it failed at 3/6 so I tought I should restart my phone and test it again, but it got stuck in bootloop and I had to reflash a rom with fastboot cmd.
I think that's because I unlocked the bootloader and rooted my phone, cause u lose the right for updates after you do that, but for some reason lenovo/moto update system goes automatically the next second u connect to the internet and fails halfway thru so u have a higher chance to ruin your phone or something, instead of denying the update from the start
so the solution I found was to try and delete "moto update service" app that I can't force stop or disable but I couldnt find it in system/app or system/priv-app, that's because the app name is "3c_ota", so deleting that with SD Maid app worked and the "update system" option in settings is reverted to a sort of default android one that lets you check manually.
Had a similiar issue. I soft bricked my phone (bootloop) and installed a stock rom from an unofficial source. The funny thing is, this version did make like 3 or 4 system upgrades to PPSI.29.65-51 without any issue. But the 1st April updated failed to install. I then flashed the official 1st april stock image with the moto rescue and smart assistant. After that, the official ROM tells me my phone is not allowed to do updates because the security of this phone is compromised and I should contact lenovo support
Those upates are kinda annoying if they don't work, I guess I'll just completey flash the phone every 6-12 months with the moto assistant.
yeah you should always have a backup rom that you can download with moto assistant or from lolinet g8 roms (https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/doha/official/)
I also got the same message saying that my phone is compromised ( unlocked bootloader + rooted) and it won't receive any further updates, but I just deleted the "3c_ota" app (the moto update service) which is bad cause if forces automatic updates the second u connect to internet.
I'm not going to touch any further updates or security patches until android 10, which I will attempt to flash via moto assistant