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I'm unable to use Android Pay - I'm not rooted, the boot loader is RELOCKED but when I try and add my card I get the dreaded "Google is unable to verify that your device or software running on it is Android compatible" error.
So, I was wondering, is it the fact that I did previous unlock my boot loader or something else stopping me.
BTW, Vendor: hw Country: eu, running C432B170.
Cheers.
No joy either
Same problem here. Imported mine and have done nothing but update to latest version of official roms (tried a couple of different ones today as well) and I get the same error. No rooting, purposely held off doing so so I could try Android Pay. SafetyNet Helper says the "CTS profile match" is false. My wild stab in the dark is that it is something to do it with it being identified as an international handset or handset from a non-Android pay supported country.
Had a web chat with an Android Pay helpdesk monkey and they had me reboot and reinstall a few times. They've also had me send some screenshots but I'm not holding out much hope for a useful reply.
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CTS
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CTS or CSC?
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CTS or CSC?
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CTS. Just double checked.
Maybe it's the same thing as CSC for Samsung phones.
In case, this might represent the target market for that phone, and that market might not yet be allowed to use Android Pay.
I'm using the single SIM version, NXT-L09, I managed to add my card but when I tried to pay for something in store I got the unable to verify.... message pop up on screen.
It also fails the CTS profile match in Safetynet helper
Android Pay worked for me today
I gave safetynet helper another try and this time it said my device passed. Re added my card to it and then used it on a London bus.
Using a Mate 8 NXT-L09C636B170
I too am able to use Android Pay. It started working for me last Thursday. While I had an open support ticket with the Android Pay help desk I periodically checked to see if it had started working. Eventually it did. I was able to add cards, SafetyNet Helper passed it's check and I was able to make payments. Result.
The same day, Android Pay help desk got back to me regarding my support ticket (there had been some backwards and forwards with logs, screenshots and the like). They concluded that Android Pay would not work because my phone was rooted. It isn't and has never has been. They had me send screenshots of multiple root checkers that displayed that the phone was not rooted *before* they came to this conclusion. I guess they just wanted the ticket closed and that was the most convenient excuse.
I've put it down to enough people reporting handsets not working that the Google added more phones to the "approved list" and help desks don't know what they are talking about.
My build number is NXT-L29C636B180
Hm.. Well this was interesting to read. Thanks for the updates saying that Android Pay does in fact (hopefully) work! I'm going to to get the L29 International dual SIM version soon so I was curious... I'll update when I get it and test it out
Mine still doesn't work - I then tried upgrading to B320 and I can't even add a card now whereas before I did eventually allow me to add a card. I'm cheesed off with it. Bootloader Locked no root and no Android Pay on a L29C432B320
gnasher666 said:
Mine still doesn't work - I then tried upgrading to B320 and I can't even add a card now whereas before I did eventually allow me to add a card. I'm cheesed off with it. Bootloader Locked no root and no Android Pay on a L29C432B320
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Same here...
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Same here...
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I've downgraded to B170 and now have Android Pay working.
The high level process was:
All done via the help of SRK Tool http://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-8/development/tool-srk-tool-huawei-t3369797
1) Unlock Boot Loader
2) Install Custom Recovery
3) Root Phone
4) Change to oeminfo and custom.bin eu (c432) - Even though I already was
5) Copy Full Update.app for C432B153 to dload folder
6) Flash stock recovery
7) Boot recovery and allow update to install
8) Factory Reset
9) Copy Update.app for C432B170 to dload folder
10) Boot recovery and allow update to install
I'm not sure how but following this process (although I've listed the steps from memory and not in front of my Laptop I did this on) I ended up with a Bootload LOCKED C432B170 and Android Pay works. I've not - nor will I update to and EMUI 4.1 version until they are released as OTA updates that my phone asks me to install
Android Pay was working fine on B103, I've upgraded to B321 via dload and now got pop up info that my device is incompatible with android pay. Any ideas?
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Just one question
Hi,
Which recovery should I flash? the one for EMUI 4.1 or 4.0?
thanks
I believe Android Pay will not work with EMUI 4.1. I wish we were warned about this before we were allowed to flash to 320 or 321. No warning with the update links. Sucks!
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I recently bought a verizon Pixel and have already unlocked the bootloader and flashed a stock image NDE63V that comes directly from google. I'm using it on T-Mobile. If I relock the bootloader at this point will everything be ok? I've read something about people saying it would brick the phone if you relock after flashing unsigned code, but the official stock images from google are signed. Will I get official updates for the unlocked google store version of the Pixel?
-edit- I decided to live dangerously, re-locked the bootloader, and now I have a completely stock google store pixel
My understanding is it will revert back to Verizon boot loader with updates. Am I wrong in that assumption. I am in the same boat and would like convert to google stock and use on T-Mobile with OTA updates
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brainymd said:
My understanding is it will revert back to Verizon boot loader with updates. Am I wrong in that assumption. I am in the same boat and would like convert to google stock and use on T-Mobile with OTA updates
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I don't think anyone knows. Right now I flashed stock google ROM through fastboot which replaced bootloader image, I am using it with T-Mobile, and I relocked bootloader. I'm going to assume it would get stock google updates.
I just got my Verizon pixel a couple days ago. I immediately uninstalled the Verizon sim card and did not enabled wifi until after I unlocked the bootloader and installed the Google's NDE63V. I then disabled Automatic System Updates within Developer Options and sometime after I installed TWRP, root, and a custom kernel I noticed a system update was available.
It turned out to be NDE63X. From what I understand that is a Verizon only image. This makes me believe what others have been saying, Verizon IMEIs are being pushed Verizon updates.
I followed the guide here to disable any future update notifications since I will be sideloading OTAs manually.
If you relock the bootloader you may not be able to unlock it again as I am guessing a future Verizon update will block dePixel8.
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I just got my Verizon pixel a couple days ago. I immediately uninstalled the Verizon sim card and did not enabled wifi until after I unlocked the bootloader and installed the Google's NDE63V. I then disabled Automatic System Updates within Developer Options and sometime after I installed TWRP, root, and a custom kernel I noticed a system update was available.
It turned out to be NDE63X. From what I understand that is a Verizon only image. This makes me believe what others have been saying, Verizon IMEIs are being pushed Verizon updates.
I followed the guide here to disable any future update notifications since I will be sideloading OTAs manually.
If you relock the bootloader you may not be able to unlock it again as I am guessing a future Verizon update will block dePixel8.
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I also have a Verizon version. Is there an advantage to flashing the Google version of updates as opposed to Verizon? For the moment I have an unlocked bootloader with TWRP and SuperSU installed. I tried installing an OTA update and it failed.
If I want to install one of the image updates posted (such as NDE63X from Verizon available right now) do I need to run the "flash-all" script? Could I just flash system or something else? Or should I expect it to overwrite my custom recovery and I'll have to restore that?
As of right now, I do not know of any advantages of the Google image vs Verizon's other than lack of bloatware.
I have not performed an update myself, but I think this guide should help you.
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As of right now, I do not know of any advantages of the Google image vs Verizon's other than lack of bloatware.
I have not performed an update myself, but I think this guide should help you.
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Thanks for the help, I followed the guide and installed the updates. Unfortunately I did not get any new gestures available (Lift to Wake or Double Tap) as I had hoped... either those are not in the Nov 2016 Verizon system.img, or they are an app update I haven't received yet.
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I just got my Verizon pixel a couple days ago. I immediately uninstalled the Verizon sim card and did not enabled wifi until after I unlocked the bootloader and installed the Google's NDE63V. I then disabled Automatic System Updates within Developer Options and sometime after I installed TWRP, root, and a custom kernel I noticed a system update was available.
It turned out to be NDE63X. From what I understand that is a Verizon only image. This makes me believe what others have been saying, Verizon IMEIs are being pushed Verizon updates.
I followed the guide here to disable any future update notifications since I will be sideloading OTAs manually.
If you relock the bootloader you may not be able to unlock it again as I am guessing a future Verizon update will block dePixel8.
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Yes, they may block it in the future, but can't you always flash the November image (since it's signed), and dePixel8 again ? Do updates have the ability to change the trusted key or prevent flashing an older image ? I'm guessing yes, since that's what Lenovo does for its BIOS, but I haven't looked at Android that closely.
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Thanks for the help, I followed the guide and installed the updates. Unfortunately I did not get any new gestures available (Lift to Wake or Double Tap) as I had hoped... either those are not in the Nov 2016 Verizon system.img, or they are an app update I haven't received yet.
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If the gestures were not in that update, they should be soon in an upcoming OTA according to reports. I am currently using the double-tap gesture with the ElementalX kernel (enabled within its app).
Edit: I think this app can enable lift to wake. I bookmarked it after finding a post about it here until I read Google will be adding this feature soon.
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Yes, they may block it in the future, but can't you always flash the November image (since it's signed), and dePixel8 again ? Do updates have the ability to change the trusted key or prevent flashing an older image ? I'm guessing yes, since that's what Lenovo does for its BIOS, but I haven't looked at Android that closely.
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I am not sure as I haven't had a nexus device since the Samsung Galaxy Nexus on Verizon .
On a lot of their devices Verizon likes to update bootloaders to only accept new updates. It's likely that if they patch out the ability to use dePixel8 in a future update, they will prevent people from flashing older builds. C'Est la Vie I guess
Just got my pixel yesterday but still using my s5 for now. I've gone from a droid x - GS 3 - GS4 - GS5. Development for each of those phones seemed really good. I was always jealous of other devices who's bootloaders were unlockable right away because of the crazy amount of development for them (Nexus). Most of the reason I got the Pixel was because I thought it would be just like the Nexus devices as far as development goes but so far it doesn't seem like it's going that way. I know it's somewhat new but just curious if people think it's going to pick up?
Just got my Pixel 2 days ago through Verizon, had it shipped to me instead of getting it at the store.
I did an initial charge and then set up the phone, during setup, it allowed me to choose which Google and Verizon apps were being installed.
I don't get any Verizon screens, just the Google boot animation. There isn't even a Verizon logo on the phone. I don't even see anything Verizon unlit after the SIM is detected.
I was wondering if anyone else that got their Pixel through Verizon has carrier markings or bloat on it? And if it does, did you go 32gb or 128gb and did you get yours via mail or from the store?
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Just got my pixel yesterday but still using my s5 for now. I've gone from a droid x - GS 3 - GS4 - GS5. Development for each of those phones seemed really good. I was always jealous of other devices who's bootloaders were unlockable right away because of the crazy amount of development for them (Nexus). Most of the reason I got the Pixel was because I thought it would be just like the Nexus devices as far as development goes but so far it doesn't seem like it's going that way. I know it's somewhat new but just curious if people think it's going to pick up?
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Yes, it will most definitely pick up. The Partitions are different than any other phone, and as soon as we have a stable TWRP then the custom ROM's will pour in. Just give it some time, and be happy with stock for now. Good times are coming, and I'm looking forward to using this phone for the next two years.
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Just got my Pixel 2 days ago through Verizon, had it shipped to me instead of getting it at the store.
I did an initial charge and then set up the phone, during setup, it allowed me to choose which Google and Verizon apps were being installed.
I don't get any Verizon screens, just the Google boot animation. There isn't even a Verizon logo on the phone. I don't even see anything Verizon unlit after the SIM is detected.
I was wondering if anyone else that got their Pixel through Verizon has carrier markings or bloat on it? And if it does, did you go 32gb or 128gb and did you get yours via mail or from the store?
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The only Verizon bloat that comes is three apps that can be uninstalled. other than that, there is no Verizon logo anywhere.
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Yes, it will most definitely pick up. The Partitions are different than any other phone, and as soon as we have a stable TWRP then the custom ROM's will pour in. Just give it some time, and be happy with stock for now. Good times are coming, and I'm looking forward to using this phone for the next two years.
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The only Verizon bloat that comes is three apps that can be uninstalled. other than that, there is no Verizon logo anywhere.
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Thanks for the reply! I've unlocked bootloader already but haven't rooted or anything yet. Been busy so I need some time to read through the Pixel forums more. I do remember seeing mention of something with the partitions on the Pixel causing issues with TWRP. Do you have a link by any chance or something that explains what is going on with it and how the partitions are different? Just want to read up on it. Been with my s5 for soooo long so coming to a new device basically means starting over and learning lots of new stuff. Software versions, unlocking, rooting, etc
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Thanks for the reply! I've unlocked bootloader already but haven't rooted or anything yet. Been busy so I need some time to read through the Pixel forums more. I do remember seeing mention of something with the partitions on the Pixel causing issues with TWRP. Do you have a link by any chance or something that explains what is going on with it and how the partitions are different? Just want to read up on it. Been with my s5 for soooo long so coming to a new device basically means starting over and learning lots of new stuff. Software versions, unlocking, rooting, etc
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I bought my Verizon Pixel yesterday. Unlocked in 20 seconds and within a few minutes TWRP 3.0.2-0 for sailfish is installed and SuperSU 2.78-SR5 has been flashed. Works perfect.
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Thanks for the reply! I've unlocked bootloader already but haven't rooted or anything yet. Been busy so I need some time to read through the Pixel forums more. I do remember seeing mention of something with the partitions on the Pixel causing issues with TWRP. Do you have a link by any chance or something that explains what is going on with it and how the partitions are different? Just want to read up on it. Been with my s5 for soooo long so coming to a new device basically means starting over and learning lots of new stuff. Software versions, unlocking, rooting, etc
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I feel your pain! I'm also coming from the S5 for 2.5 years. Had everything (almost) perfect with systemless root, twrp, xposed, adaway, etc. (but no Android Pay) . Now with this Pixel and Verizon-depixel8 unlocked bootloader, I'm trying to piece together the best plan for having the most stuff working.
So far, bootloader unlocked, and I flashed the full 7.1.1 images from Google. Then I tried using the setup wizard and it brought over my account info and wifi passwords and such from my S5 by directly connecting the phones, and it downloaded my apps from google play, but I need app-data.
So, now I'm thinking this would be the process if you want to have a rooted pixel, and be able to reboot into a "clean" boot for Android Pay?:
1) boot TWRP alpha2 (since RC1 having problem rooting?)
2) install TWRP alpha2 zip
3) install stock-safetynet kernal to boot_a
4) boot into boot_a
5) setup Android pay, add credit cards, etc.
6) boot into TWRP and install root with SR5 to boot_b
7) boot into boot_b and restore other app backups with Titanium Backup, install Adaway/hosts
8) no Xprivacy /Xposed available yet, right?
9) restore backed up apps from old phone with Titanium Backup (from cloud, etc.)
I have one question with this, I have a Verizon pixel with unlocked bootloader. I just wanted to make sure I can flash the Google image and still use on Verizon. Will I lose any features like the advanced calling stuff?
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I have one question with this, I have a Verizon pixel with unlocked bootloader. I just wanted to make sure I can flash the Google image and still use on Verizon. Will I lose any features like the advanced calling stuff?
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Yes you can still use it on Verizon. Advanced Calling is a feature i am not too familiar with. Is that HD Calling? If so then yes that will work as well works on my phone without issue.
So from here I can flash Google's bootloader and Google image and then when updates come out just use the Google ones
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Question for those with a Play store version of the Pixel: what is your bootloader version on the 7.1.1 software?
For reference my Verizon store Pixel has BL version 8996-12001-1610061102.
Thanks in advance!
the samsung device maintenance system app worked alright in the past, but I've been seeing a few people not liking the new update since it apparently targets more than what it should; I aimed to not update it at all, but while I was updating apps before I went to sleep yesterday, that app updated as well. I didn't know it did so I've been trying to downgrade it to an earlier version. I downloaded an apk file from apkmirror, made sure to uninstall the updates to it and set it to factory version, but it won't let me install, saying it conflicts with the same app already present. I then used the adb command-line tool to "uninstall" it (pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.samsung.android.lool ), hoping it would work then, but it says "nope, this app doesn't exist on this phone, plus this apk file is corrupted". I can "re-install" it by installing it from the google play store
I'm at a loss on how I can get this done without root (I don't plan on rooting my phone unless the situation is perfect for it), using the adb tool or any tool that won't kill my phone. Any help
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the samsung device maintenance system app worked alright in the past, but I've been seeing a few people not liking the new update since it apparently targets more than what it should; I aimed to not update it at all, but while I was updating apps before I went to sleep yesterday, that app updated as well. I didn't know it did so I've been trying to downgrade it to an earlier version. I downloaded an apk file from apkmirror, made sure to uninstall the updates to it and set it to factory version, but it won't let me install, saying it conflicts with the same app already present. I then used the adb command-line tool to "uninstall" it (pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.samsung.android.lool ), hoping it would work then, but it says "nope, this app doesn't exist on this phone, plus this apk file is corrupted". I can "re-install" it by installing it from the google play store
I'm at a loss on how I can get this done without root (I don't plan on rooting my phone unless the situation is perfect for it), using the adb tool or any tool that won't kill my phone. Any help
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Uninstalling updates and reverting it back to the factory version is downgrading it as far as it will downgrade, and if it worked before you let it update, then you are running the version (factory) that was working previously, therefore something else is wrong if it still doesn't work
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Uninstalling updates and reverting it back to the factory version is downgrading it as far as it will downgrade, and if it worked before you let it update, then you are running the version (factory) that was working previously, therefore something else is wrong if it still doesn't work
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what would I have to do to diagnose this if possible, and if it can't be, am I pretty much at a dead end?
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what would I have to do to diagnose this if possible, and if it can't be, am I pretty much at a dead end?
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Flash the same ROM over the top using HOME_CSC instead of CSC so not to lose data
If that fails, bite the bullet and factory reset
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Flash the same ROM over the top using HOME_CSC instead of CSC so not to lose data
If that fails, bite the bullet and factory reset
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im using the default Android OS (7.1 nougat), no custom ROMs, and this android phone was bought at an AT&T retailer; if the right chance comes, I would be willing to flash a custom rom (probably LineageOS) after I get it unlocked (doubt ill be updating to a newer phone unless there's an actual difference) and the money situation is good, but until then, sticking with what I got
I did remember about an application called odin that can (maybe?) flash stock rom of android without tripping the knox counter, that true? and if I do, will I lose all my installed stuff, apps, contact info, etc...
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im using the default Android OS (7.1 nougat), no custom ROMs, and this android phone was bought at an AT&T retailer; if the right chance comes, I would be willing to flash a custom rom (probably LineageOS) after I get it unlocked (doubt ill be updating to a newer phone unless there's an actual difference) and the money situation is good, but until then, sticking with what I got
I did remember about an application called odin that can (maybe?) flash stock rom of android without tripping the knox counter, that true? and if I do, will I lose all my installed stuff, apps, contact info, etc...
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If your phone is a US model S7 (snapdragon) you cannot flash custom ROMs
My instructions are for ODIN (version 3.12.7 for Nougat)
So at this point, my only option is to switch to a new phone that can be used by Odin, or just standard root my phone and flash a custom rom of a different type, right?
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So at this point, my only option is to switch to a new phone that can be used by Odin, or just standard root my phone and flash a custom rom of a different type, right?
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You cannot flash a custom ROM to a snapdragon phone using any method, it has a locked bootloader
ODIN is for stock ROMs only (and TWRP recovery which you cannot use on snapdragon either)
You can use ODIN on any S7 for stock ROMs
To sum it all up, you're saying that I have to get an exynos/international version of any Android phone if I want to root and or flash a custom ROM, correct? And if I do, could I still use it with a US phone carrier, like AT&T or MetroPCS afterwards?
And even if I could use it with a US phone carrier, would I still be eligible for any technical support / repair service they would offer, or would I have to use a non-affiliated repair service?
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To sum it all up, you're saying that I have to get an exynos/international version of any Android phone if I want to root and or flash a custom ROM, correct? And if I do, could I still use it with a US phone carrier, like AT&T or MetroPCS afterwards?
And even if I could use it with a US phone carrier, would I still be eligible for any technical support / repair service they would offer, or would I have to use a non-affiliated repair service?
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Yes, only Exynos has an unlocked bootloader (See the snapdragon vs exynos custom ROM dev forums)
Yes you could still use a US carrier as long as the phone is SIM unlocked (carphone warehouse phones are all unlocked), I have no idea of the limitations / implications, but some people here already do that, and the G930W8 (Canada) is Exynos
No idea about warranty, but if you bought it from say the UK and had it shipped, you'd have to discuss with Samsung if they would accept it into a US service centre or if you'd have to ship it back to the UK, no idea about that, no doubt there are places in the US that you could buy a Exynos from
Hit Samsung up on twitter and ask them
Basically the title. I received my Chinese Edge S today, so far I like it but I've barely used it. I thought I got a model with Gapps preloaded, but I was wrong (big surprise). I sideloaded Play Store, but haven't gotten much farther. Unlocking the bootloader was a little difficult, I had to factory reset, with the SIM card installed, to get "OEM Unlocking" to not be grayed out. But from there it was simple, I used the Motorola website to get the unlock code, ran it, no problem. I just followed the normal Magisk instructions: I installed the Magisk app, found the boot.img file inside the ROM download from the Lenovo Rescue and Smart Assistant, patched it with Magisk, flashed it via fastboot and I'm rooted. Once I hid Magisk, Google Pay seems to work fine (although it says NFC is not set up...I'll have to test it tomorrow for tap to pay to see if it works; when I go into NFC settings it says Google Pay is default). I'll let you all know how it goes. I also downloaded Google Assistant, but as I suspected it isn't working. I tried to sideload Gapps from Android 10, but it didn't work. I'll have to try TWRP later, or maybe wait until an Android 10 Gapps is available.
EDIT: Since I have root, is there a way install the Gapps? I found BiTGApps which has Android 11 support, but it only lists TWRP install method and there's currently no TWRP for this phone.
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Basically the title. I received my Chinese Edge S today, so far I like it but I've barely used it. I thought I got a model with Gapps preloaded, but I was wrong (big surprise). I sideloaded Play Store, but haven't gotten much farther. Unlocking the bootloader was a little difficult, I had to factory reset, with the SIM card installed, to get "OEM Unlocking" to not be grayed out. But from there it was simple, I used the Motorola website to get the unlock code, ran it, no problem. I just followed the normal Magisk instructions: I installed the Magisk app, found the boot.img file inside the ROM download from the Lenovo Rescue and Smart Assistant, patched it with Magisk, flashed it via fastboot and I'm rooted. Once I hid Magisk, Google Pay seems to work fine (although it says NFC is not set up...I'll have to test it tomorrow for tap to pay to see if it works; when I go into NFC settings it says Google Pay is default). I'll let you all know how it goes. I also downloaded Google Assistant, but as I suspected it isn't working. I tried to sideload Gapps from Android 10, but it didn't work. I'll have to try TWRP later, or maybe wait until an Android 10 Gapps is available.
EDIT: Since I have root, is there a way install the Gapps? I found BiTGApps which has Android 11 support, but it only lists TWRP install method and there's currently no TWRP for this phone.
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Wow, thanks for all this info. That is great that you were already able to root and get Magisk on there with minimal issues. This is pretty much what I do with my phones right out of the box. Regarding that link for Gapps, I read through the start of that thread and the package is definitely what we'll probably need for this phone. But, without a working recovery at this point, I don't think there is another way to install it.
That's awesome that you did that. I received my code from Moto, but I need to factory reset myself to get the OEM unlock slider to not be grayed out. I'm just waiting for the G100 Rom to be available and flash it then.
Until then. its a pretty sweet phone for the money.
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That's awesome that you did that. I received my code from Moto, but I need to factory reset myself to get the OEM unlock slider to not be grayed out. I'm just waiting for the G100 Rom to be available and flash it then.
Until then. its a pretty sweet phone for the money.
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If you don't mind me asking, where did you purchase the phone? And where do you live?
Edit: Just saw your answer in the other thread.
CCivale said:
If you don't mind me asking, where did you purchase the phone? And where do you live?
Edit: Just saw your answer in the other thread.
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It's worth noting that I cancelled my Giztop purchase and bought from Aliexpress instead. Can't remember if I actually said that or not.
there is twrp, it is experimental
Electimon said:
there is twrp, it is experimental
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I couldn't find it, can you link it?
Electimon said:
there is twrp, it is experimental
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Can you link it?
syncrosys said:
That's awesome that you did that. I received my code from Moto, but I need to factory reset myself to get the OEM unlock slider to not be grayed out. I'm just waiting for the G100 Rom to be available and flash it then.
Until then. its a pretty sweet phone for the money.
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Any idea when the G100 ROM will be available?
Can you please describe the steps on how to flash the new ROM?
ktitimbo said:
Any idea when the G100 ROM will be available?
Can you please describe the steps on how to flash the new ROM?
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I imagine it'll be available as soon as the phone itself is, just a matter of someone downloading the G100 ROM with RSA, then uploading it for the rest of us. I also imagine the process will simply be to download it, and rename it so RSA will flash it instead of the Chinese ROM for us, but that's really only speculation at this point. It may have a checksum that would make flashing a little more difficult, in which case it would be a matter of installing TWRP (once available) and then flashing that way.
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Can you share the URL for unlock code request?
I couldn't unlock with global website...
I think I just used the global one here: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a/
Hello, I have patched boot img to my moto edge S 5g Chinese version and I have magisk root ok but if I restart the motorola it is lost and I have to reinstall boot parched, do you know why?
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I imagine it'll be available as soon as the phone itself is, just a matter of someone downloading the G100 ROM with RSA, then uploading it for the rest of us. I also imagine the process will simply be to download it, and rename it so RSA will flash it instead of the Chinese ROM for us, but that's really only speculation at this point. It may have a checksum that would make flashing a little more difficult, in which case it would be a matter of installing TWRP (once available) and then flashing that way.
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Thanks for info . İs flashing g100 rom need root device or unlocking bootloader ?
Hi XDA, first time poster and I could not find a similar thread with the answers I was looking for, if that thread exists I apologize!
So basically I started a job in a retail phone shop a few months back. We have a drawer in store that has a bunch of old demo units in there that, once they have been removed from display, just sit there unused. There is phones in there from almost 10 years ago. They are never given back or requested back, nor are they logged in any way.
Well I noticed there was an almost perfect condition S21+ in there so I asked my manager if we could use it as a sales incentive and he replied saying the phones are useless because of the software on them. I said I was pretty sure you could remove the retail software and use it as a normal phone and he said if I can do that and get it working, I can take the phone for myself.
Well, I took it home and did some digging / experimenting. The phone has a proper IMEI already, you can put a SIM into the phone and it registers to the network. The problem is, the phone has security restrictions on data sharing and it does not have the playstore on it and there is no factory data reset option in the settings, nor in recovery mode.
I have tried flashing a stock firmware on using Odin which I thought worked, however when the phone restarts and you go through set up, Samsung Knox pops up and installs settings which forces the phone to set up in retail mode again with the same restrictions as previous (no play store, factory reset etc).
Any idea how to get around this issue? I would have thought flashing stock software would be the obvious work around but something on the phone forces it to install on retail mode every time.
Any advice on this is much appreciated.
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Hi XDA, first time poster and I could not find a similar thread with the answers I was looking for, if that thread exists I apologize!
So basically I started a job in a retail phone shop a few months back. We have a drawer in store that has a bunch of old demo units in there that, once they have been removed from display, just sit there unused. There is phones in there from almost 10 years ago. They are never given back or requested back, nor are they logged in any way.
Well I noticed there was an almost perfect condition S21+ in there so I asked my manager if we could use it as a sales incentive and he replied saying the phones are useless because of the software on them. I said I was pretty sure you could remove the retail software and use it as a normal phone and he said if I can do that and get it working, I can take the phone for myself.
Well, I took it home and did some digging / experimenting. The phone has a proper IMEI already, you can put a SIM into the phone and it registers to the network. The problem is, the phone has security restrictions on data sharing and it does not have the playstore on it and there is no factory data reset option in the settings, nor in recovery mode.
I have tried flashing a stock firmware on using Odin which I thought worked, however when the phone restarts and you go through set up, Samsung Knox pops up and installs settings which forces the phone to set up in retail mode again with the same restrictions as previous (no play store, factory reset etc).
Any idea how to get around this issue? I would have thought flashing stock software would be the obvious work around but something on the phone forces it to install on retail mode every time.
Any advice on this is much appreciated.
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Have you tried following the steps in a video such as this?
DO THIS COMPLETELY AT YOUR OWN RISK! I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE IF ANYTHING GOES WRONG, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO BRICKING YOUR DEVICE, GETTING A VIRUS OR STARTING A LITERAL WAR.
Everything i was able find on the subject was kind of sketchy-looking (probably because doing this without permission would probably be illegal) so I included a warning.
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Have you tried following the steps in a video such as this?
DO THIS COMPLETELY AT YOUR OWN RISK! I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE IF ANYTHING GOES WRONG, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO BRICKING YOUR DEVICE, GETTING A VIRUS OR STARTING A LITERAL WAR.
Everything i was able find on the subject was kind of sketchy-looking (probably because doing this without permission would probably be illegal) so I included a warning.
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Thanks for the reply!
So I also came across this same video on the subject last night, it seems to be a workaround for bypassing Knox but I couldnt find any further info on what kind of state that leaves the phone in after, if it can still get official updates and such or if it triggered to eFuse that causes you to lose access to Samsung Pay and other official apps.
I'm aware this is at my own risk, the phone will sit in a drawer if I cant figure it out any way so no harm no foul as far as I can see. I've thought about rooting the device (I know this will trigger the eFuse) but I cant find any info on if that would get around the specific issue I'm having of Knox forcing the phone to install in retail settings or not so do not want to go down that road just yet.
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Thanks for the reply!
So I also came across this same video on the subject last night, it seems to be a workaround for bypassing Knox but I couldnt find any further info on what kind of state that leaves the phone in after, if it can still get official updates and such or if it triggered to eFuse that causes you to lose access to Samsung Pay and other official apps.
I'm aware this is at my own risk, the phone will sit in a drawer if I cant figure it out any way so no harm no foul as far as I can see. I've thought about rooting the device (I know this will trigger the eFuse) but I cant find any info on if that would get around the specific issue I'm having of Knox forcing the phone to install in retail settings or not so do not want to go down that road just yet.
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I'd say that the Knox workaround would probably (do not quote me on that) leave you with un-tripped Knox (=e-fuse intact) if it even still is. Even if Knox would be tripped, you would still most likely be able to get software updates. But because you said that you have already used Odin successfully on the device, that would lead me to believe that OEM unlocking might already be on in which case there probably isn't any more to lose by rooting the device. On a rooted device there are instructions o WikiHow on how to remove the Knox , but I haven't personally tested them. If I were you, I'd check with a Knox warranty checker app or through recovery mode, etc
whether the e-fuse is already triggered before continuing with anything.
And if I confused you, feel free to ask anything!
With the root approach you would also have to worry about passing Safety Net, but that'll only be relevant if you decide to go with that path.
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I'd say that the Knox workaround would probably (do not quote me on that) leave you with un-tripped Knox (=e-fuse intact) if it even still is. Even if Knox would be tripped, you would still most likely be able to get software updates. But because you said that you have already used Odin successfully on the device, that would lead me to believe that OEM unlocking might already be on in which case there probably isn't any more to lose by rooting the device. On a rooted device there are instructions o WikiHow on how to remove the Knox , but I haven't personally tested them. If I were you, I'd check with a Knox warranty checker app whether the e-fuse is already triggered before continuing with anything.
And if I confused you, feel free to ask anything!
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Interesting, I may give the workaround a shot when I get home later then.
So I have used Odin but it was with official firmware obtained through Frija and, according to reading, that does NOT trip the eFuse. I did turn on OHD in dev options but from what I can tell, the fuse is only tripped when you load an unofficial image onto the device which I havent done yet. I can check when I get home by booting into recovery mode and checking the warranty line AFAIK it will say either 1 or 0 indicating if it's been tripped or not.
So my issue with rooting is I dont know if I root, will the phone still install in the retail setup that it does currently. I know I can run apps or code to remove Knox once rooted, but I dont know if then just reinstall firmware and it will be back to default like I want, or if I'll then need to figure out how to get the playstore loaded, if the security issues persist etc. Also as far as I can tell to root, I need to install Magisk on the device first to alter one of the image files, then move that file back to the PC to flash with Odin, and I'm not sure I can do that with the retail settings enabled.
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Interesting, I may give the workaround a shot when I get home later then.
So I have used Odin but it was with official firmware obtained through Frija and, according to reading, that does NOT trip the eFuse. I did turn on OHD in dev options but from what I can tell, the fuse is only tripped when you load an unofficial image onto the device which I havent done yet. I can check when I get home by booting into recovery mode and checking the warranty line AFAIK it will say either 1 or 0 indicating if it's been tripped or not.
So my issue with rooting is I dont know if I root, will the phone still install in the retail setup that it does currently. I know I can run apps or code to remove Knox once rooted, but I dont know if then just reinstall firmware and it will be back to default like I want, or if I'll then need to figure out how to get the playstore loaded, if the security issues persist etc. Also as far as I can tell to root, I need to install Magisk on the device first to alter one of the image files, then move that file back to the PC to flash with Odin, and I'm not sure I can do that with the retail settings enabled.
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I am interested in how this develops. Please keep me updated with the warranty byte status and whether the workaround is successful!
BloodyFruitDestroyer said:
I am interested in how this develops. Please keep me updated with the warranty byte status and whether the workaround is successful!
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So quick update on this: none of the workaround videos on youtube seem to be capable of doing anything. They all rely on being able to connect to Wifi then get around the device before Knox settings apply, however on my build as SOON as you connect to wifi, it immediately starts applying knox settings and cannot be skipped.
I am wondering if this is because the version of software I flashed on using Odin was the most recent firmware, being android 12, and most of these workarounds are for android 11? Is it safe to locate the original firmware for the S21+ somewhere and flash that on to the device instead do you think?
Also the eFuse is still currently in tact.
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So quick update on this: none of the workaround videos on youtube seem to be capable of doing anything. They all rely on being able to connect to Wifi then get around the device before Knox settings apply, however on my build as SOON as you connect to wifi, it immediately starts applying knox settings and cannot be skipped.
I am wondering if this is because the version of software I flashed on using Odin was the most recent firmware, being android 12, and most of these workarounds are for android 11? Is it safe to locate the original firmware for the S21+ somewhere and flash that on to the device instead do you think?
Also the eFuse is still currently in tact.
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You could flash an older Android version, but if and only if it has the same bootloader version as the current one, otherwise it won't work and might even brick your device. I am unsure though if the downgrade would help but if the bootloader versions match, you can try!
On SamMobile.com you can see older versions of firmware. Just check the bootloader version before flashing!
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You could flash an older Android version, but if and only if it has the same bootloader version as the current one, otherwise it won't work and might even brick your device. I am unsure though if the downgrade would help but if the bootloader versions match, you can try!
On SamMobile.com you can see older versions of firmware. Just check the bootloader version before flashing!
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So this may seem like a dumb question but how do I check to make sure the bootloader version matches?
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So this may seem like a dumb question but how do I check to make sure the bootloader version matches?
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It's most likely as simple as comparing the bootloader filenames between the Odin flashable files for the old and new software. I could verify whether that's the case if you send the filenames for both bootloader files here. (The file that goes into the BL slot in Odin)
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It's most likely as simple as comparing the bootloader filenames between the Odin flashable files for the old and new software. I could verify whether that's the case if you send the filenames for both bootloader files here. (The file that goes into the BL slot in Odin)
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So the first image is of the current firmware that successfully flashed to my device via Odin.
The second is firmware from August 2021 that is on a build of Android 11. You can also see by the file modification dates.
What were your exact model and region again? Probably won't matter, please wait a minute
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What were your exact model and region again?
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What were your exact model and region again? Probably won't matter, please wait a minute
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SM-G996B
Region is Ireland (CSC is MET)
Yeah, it seems like the current bootloader is version 4 while the Android 11 one is version 3 so these versions seem, unfortunately, incompatible.
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SM-G996B
Region is Ireland (CSC is MET)
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Hi there, I can help you out! I have some experience with Samsung.
So first off, I take it this is an Exynos model? Snapdragons require the use of a paid service to get an unlock.
It seems you've flashed stock firmware before but it didn't work out due to Knox. Did you flash all the files including the CSC (wipe all data) file? Also, you could try flashing TWRP and that would trip Knox, at which point Knox is disabled due to detecting system modifications or it will try to rollback your modifications.
So the only thing I personally can think of to get rid of the problem is going the TWRP route, but this will trip the Knox warranty byte to 0x1, so think about it. There might be someone more experienced than me that might be able to help without tripping Knox, but this is right now the only thing I can personally suggest to fix the problem.
Edit: It seems like someone more experienced appeared while I was writing this! Sweet!
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So the only thing I personally can think of to get rid of the problem is going the TWRP route, but this will trip the Knox warranty byte to 0x1, so think about it. There might be someone more experienced than me that might be able to help without tripping Knox, but this is right now the only thing I can personally suggest to fix the problem.
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SM-G996B
Region is Ireland (CSC is MET)
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Are you able to enable developer options? If so, you might be able to use ADB commands to disable the Retail Mode app. I doubt they're enabled though.
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Yeah, it seems like the current bootloader is version 4 while the Android 11 one is version 3 so these versions seem, unfortunately, incompatible.
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Dammit, so it seems I'm stuck on Android 12 and there is no way to get back to a previous version then I take it?
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Dammit, so it seems I'm stuck on Android 12 and there is no way to get back to a previous version then I take it?
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With official firmware, I'd be pretty certain that you can't. By the way, please look at the latest messages as there is someone else with fresh ideas here, too.