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Hold out for 5.1 or downgrade to kitkat

Hey guys my moto g XT1032 has been incredibly slow since the update to 5.0.1, I think this is due to the memory leak issue?
Restarting solves the issue for all of 20 mins - I've also tried wiping the cache.
Has anyone had any experience with this ?
I'm stuck between waiting for 5.1 and fixing it or downgrading to kitkat - it's incredibly frustrating at this stage waiting for my apps to load.

RockinPlay said:
Hey guys my moto g 2nd gen has been incredibly slow since the update to 5.0.1, I think this is due to the memory leak issue?
Restarting solves the issue for all of 20 mins - I've also tried wiping the cache.
Has anyone had any experience with this ?
I'm stuck between waiting for 5.1 and fixing it or downgrading to kitkat - it's incredibly frustrating at this stage waiting for my apps to load.
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IMO kitkat is far more responsive, quick, and stable than lollipop. Lollipop 5.1 is better than 5/5.01/5.02 but I still prefer kitkat over Lollipop. That's just my opinion.

classic757 said:
IMO kitkat is far more responsive, quick, and stable than lollipop. Lollipop 5.1 is better than 5/5.01/5.02 but I still prefer kitkat over Lollipop. That's just my opinion.
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Just what I thought :/ anyone have any tips on downgrading it back to kitkat ? ( I'm on 5.0.1 now)

RockinPlay said:
Just what I thought :/ anyone have any tips on downgrading it back to kitkat ? ( I'm on 5.0.1 now)
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What model number moto g do you have? xt1063/64 or which one?

classic757 said:
What model number moto g do you have? xt1063/64 or which one?
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hey
I'm xt1032

RockinPlay said:
hey
I'm xt1032
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Okay. In your original post you stated that you have the 2nd gen moto g. The xt1032 is the 1st gen moto g.
Also, if your bootloader is not unlocked and/or you are not rooted then you are stuck on Lollipop. If it is unlocked then you can adb fastboot the correct 4.4.4 firmware for your phone to go back to KitKat. I purchased my xt1028 with JellyBean on it, ota'd to 4.4.2 KitKat, then later took the 4.4.4 ota. Unlocked bootloader, rooted it and flashed numerous KitKat roms. Then upgraded my bootloader from 41.13 to 41.19 and flashed more than a few Lollipop roms. At the end of the day, I am just not impressed with Lollipop at all. Too bright, too many colors, and the design is too kiddie-like, as though they designed it for kindergarten children. Grow up android, and make an os for adults.
I reverted back to KitKat and I like it far better. Although I am about done with android. Going to iphone.

thanks for the reply - you're right -I'm a 1st gen ( XT1032).
So am I completely stuck on lolipop since the upgrade? ( I'm not rooted)

RockinPlay said:
thanks for the reply - you're right -I'm a 1st gen ( XT1032).
So am I completely stuck on lolipop since the upgrade? ( I'm not rooted)
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Yes, unfortunately if you are not rooted you are stuck on lollipop. However, you have a GSM phone and I think it is unlockable through Motorola's bootloader unlock program. Here is a link that may help: http://motogroms.com/moto-g-bootloa...o-g-xt939g-xt1008-xt1031-xt1032-xt1033-xt1034
And if you have success unlocking your bootloader, this link will help you restore KitKat on your phone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2542219
Keep in mind though that when you took the Lollipop ota it updated your bootloader so even if you restore your phone to KitKat you will still have the updated bootloader(bootloader cannot be downgraded) so you will have some screen flicker every time you reboot your phone but that is resolved by just turning the screen off/on.
If you need any further assistance please feel free to let me know and I'll do what I can to help.

Upgraded mine 2 days ago I totally hate lollipop
the lock screen sucks with the speed dial on it .....I have acidently made calls twice......I have had to put a pass code in to stop this happening
untill I can find a way of removing this pile of **** from my phone.

classic757 said:
Yes, unfortunately if you are not rooted you are stuck on lollipop. However, you have a GSM phone and I think it is unlockable through Motorola's bootloader unlock program. Here is a link that may help: http://motogroms.com/moto-g-bootloa...o-g-xt939g-xt1008-xt1031-xt1032-xt1033-xt1034
And if you have success unlocking your bootloader, this link will help you restore KitKat on your phone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2542219
Keep in mind though that when you took the Lollipop ota it updated your bootloader so even if you restore your phone to KitKat you will still have the updated bootloader(bootloader cannot be downgraded) so you will have some screen flicker every time you reboot your phone but that is resolved by just turning the screen off/on.
If you need any further assistance please feel free to let me know and I'll do what I can to help.
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thanks for the reply classic757 - you're a gent
It looks like I'm stuck so for a while. Any sign of an improved 5.1 to deal with the memory leak / slowdown?

RockinPlay said:
thanks for the reply classic757 - you're a gent
It looks like I'm stuck so for a while. Any sign of an improved 5.1 to deal with the memory leak / slowdown?
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Your welcome.
And I am not quite sure if there is a 5.1/5.1.1 Lollipop update for your phone. You can always visit Motorola Software Update Page to check.

5.1.1 Performance Experiences

Hey guys, I just saw that 5.1.1 has been available for my N915G for some time now. I would like to ask how people are feeling about it in terms of performance? I was on 5.0.1 awhile back and it was so laggy and slow that I eventually downgraded to 4.4.4 (at times, I wouldn't even be able to answer calls because the phone would ring but the phone was so laggy that the screen wouldn't turn on until after they hung up).
I'm very happy with the performance of 4.4.4 now but I do like the features in Lollipop so I just wanted to ask if it's safe to jump back in? I heard that it's not possible to downgrade after flashing 5.1.1 so I need to be sure before taking the dive. Thanks a lot in advance!

marcolorenzo said:
Hey guys, I just saw that 5.1.1 has been available for my N915G for some time now. I would like to ask how people are feeling about it in terms of performance? I was on 5.0.1 awhile back and it was so laggy and slow that I eventually downgraded to 4.4.4 (at times, I wouldn't even be able to answer calls because the phone would ring but the phone was so laggy that the screen wouldn't turn on until after they hung up).
I'm very happy with the performance of 4.4.4 now but I do like the features in Lollipop so I just wanted to ask if it's safe to jump back in? I heard that it's not possible to downgrade after flashing 5.1.1 so I need to be sure before taking the dive. Thanks a lot in advance!
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Phone works really smooth, no lag at all! Even multitask works really well

klect said:
Phone works really smooth, no lag at all! Even multitask works really well
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Thanks for the reply. Although I am always a little cautious when I hear people say there's no lag at all. I have never had a non-stock Android phone that was lag free (well, with the exception of my old Z1 Compact maybe). Even on 4.4.4 where the performance is far better than on 5.0.1, there is noticeable but tolerable lag at times. But still, I'm glad to hear you're having a good experience on it!

klect said:
Phone works really smooth, no lag at all! Even multitask works really well
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+1
Also to add, battery life is 4x now!

how did you update 5.1.1, I'm on 5.0.1 and OTA doesn't show any update available?

sarfrazhc said:
how did you update 5.1.1, I'm on 5.0.1 and OTA doesn't show any update available?
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It depends on what version of the Note Edge you're on. Mine is SM-N915G (yours could be 9150, 915F, 915FY etc.) and sammobile.com listed 5.1.1 as being available. Then you need to flash it through odin. There are tons of guides around for that if you do find a compatible firmware for you.

I have 915G. Can you please provide any updated working guide /links?

sarfrazhc said:
I have 915G. Can you please provide any updated working guide /links?
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Well I haven't done it yet myself but I'm pretty sure it works the same way as with previous firmwares. There are heaps of guides here and elsewhere that describe the steps to using Odin such as this one. And get the firmware from here.
Question for the more knowledgeable people: Does the baseband version on my current firmware have to match with the one I'm trying to flash from Sammobile?

marcolorenzo said:
Well I haven't done it yet myself but I'm pretty sure it works the same way as with previous firmwares. There are heaps of guides here and elsewhere that describe the steps to using Odin such as this one. And get the firmware from here.
Question for the more knowledgeable people: Does the baseband version on my current firmware have to match with the one I'm trying to flash from Sammobile?
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Shouldn't matter, it's the "G" that's important.
There is both a Telstra rom and a generic rom of 5.1.1 so you should be good to go.
If you want to get root access you will need to flash a 5.1.1 root enabled kernel however...

Stock 6.0.1 for XT1540?

Hi! Is there a stock rom with 6.0.1 ? 6.0 on xt1540 works really slow, and have a LOT of hangs ... I've only seen 6.0.1 for XT1541... Or any other rom? Im now on Broken with 6.0.1 but it reboots by itself and thats quite annoying...
Thanks in advance!

jkiper said:
Hi! Is there a stock rom with 6.0.1 ? 6.0 on xt1540 works really slow, and have a LOT of hangs ... I've only seen 6.0.1 for XT1541... Or any other rom? Im now on Broken with 6.0.1 but it reboots by itself and thats quite annoying...
Thanks in advance!
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Have not seen a stock ROM for 6.0.1.
Did you try Factory Reset of 6.0? I know many had several issues after upgrading to 6.0 that required a FR to fix.

MrTooPhone said:
Have not seen a stock ROM for 6.0.1.
Did you try Factory Reset of 6.0? I know many had several issues after upgrading to 6.0 that required a FR to fix.
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Yeap.... several times... First it works good, but after a few days it gets slower and slower and slower....

My wife has the XT1540 and the MM 6.0 makes her smartphone really slow, it freezes all the time. Still waiting 6.0.1 update!

Same here.... now using Broken but it reboot itself sometimes... Stock 5.1.1 with optimization also works very well...

RAM issue
I had the XT1540 and moved up to the XT1550 because of the same issue. It's the 1gb of RAM that does it. The extra gig in the XT1550 makes a big difference. I'd try keeping all caches cleaned periodically. You can also overclock the GPU and CPU but that's at the risk of overheating and battery life.

jcyoungmoney said:
I had the XT1540 and moved up to the XT1550 because of the same issue. It's the 1gb of RAM that does it. The extra gig in the XT1550 makes a big difference. I'd try keeping all caches cleaned periodically. You can also overclock the GPU and CPU but that's at the risk of overheating and battery life.
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So we can say that motorola should give us a solution ... but... they answer me... "The problem is the facebook apps...." LoL!!! So this is a really dumb "smart"phone... Well so, which rom do you recommend then?

Moto Z Nougat Update India

Hi All,
I am starting this thread so that we can keep track of the Moto Z Nougat Update and its issues.
Just got the OTP today. Size is 1465MB. Its getting installed as of now.
I will update once its installed.

What is your channel of software update?

200mpx said:
What is your channel of software update?
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retin
Build Number: NPL25.86-15
My experience till now:
Phone seems to be a lot smoother and heat build up seems to be less while gaming (I play Mortal Kombat X very often).
Cannot comment on battery as of now as its not even 24hrs since the update has been installed.
If anyone has any question, then do let me know.

Great. Even Moto Z play nougat update is coming in few days

Seems like getting better battery backup as comapred to Marshmallow.
I am at 37% remaning battery after 24hrs with 1hr 11mins SOT.

Finally someone from india with a moto z :victory:

Aingaran said:
Finally someone from india with a moto z :victory:
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Did you get the Nougat update till now?
What mods are you using with the phone?

I updated manually with the ota zip few weeks back.. I didn't buy any mods yet..

Since I read that the new OTA update (which comes with Nougat upgradation too) also updates the bootloader - in the US Verizon (locked) versions of the phone. As a consequence of which the users are unable to unlock the new bootloader at USA.
My question is - since we already have an unlockable bootloader, will the new Nougat update make the bootloader UN-"unlockable"?
This is very important for me since I am looking forward for a stable official ROM (CM 14.1 based) with root support.
Thanks in advance.
PS: I know that Android 6.0.1 with July 1 patch is the most stable android OS till date. Can anyone compare the latest OTA with this?

I received a second update for nougat, 540 mb, slowed down the phone

ams1576 said:
I received a second update for nougat, 540 mb, slowed down the phone
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Would it be NPL25.86-17-3 by chance? If so, it fixes the quiet notification issue.
What security patch are you on now?

GibMcFragger said:
Would it be NPL25.86-17-3 by chance? If so, it fixes the quiet notification issue.
What security patch are you on now?
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Yes , I have received NPL25.86-17-3
November 2016

try Wipe cache partition
see if helps speeding up
ams1576 said:
I received a second update for nougat, 540 mb, slowed down the phone
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[email protected] said:
try Wipe cache partition
see if helps speeding up
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Looks like the CPU is underclocked shows 1.6 Ghz

ams1576 said:
Looks like the CPU is underclocked shows 1.6 Ghz
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No, it's not under clocked. All 4 cores are working as it should (atleast for now), after nougat update, core 3 and 4 had wake issues. (will remain inactive untill next reboot) hope this update fixes it.. I will report after a day or two..
Update - 3 and 4th core issue so persists. Hope moto will find a solution soon

ams1576 said:
I received a second update for nougat, 540 mb, slowed down the phone
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Even I have received the same, but theres no performance issue.

New update received weighing 139.2MB. Installing now.

Need help with downloading the update without OTA method, is there an Indian version Nougat rom available online, which I can download the Nougat update and than flash it?

mine receive nlp25.86-30 whats the different

shuvadeep said:
New update received weighing 139.2MB. Installing now.
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Could you upload the ota package please?

I guess moto x pure will not have Android N, Android O is coming

I guess moto x pure will not have Android N, Android O is coming:crying:
I have waiting for a long time, moto still let me wait. I think moto is dying, it will be my last moto phone.

What are you on about dude? They are currently soak testing N and.while it may be later than you like boohoo..

kudouyuzi said:
I guess moto x pure will not have Android N, Android O is coming:crying:
I have waiting for a long time, moto still let me wait. I think moto is dying, it will be my last moto phone.
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lol... Your inexperience is showing here. The Moto X getting Nougat has nothing to do with Android O, we will get it within the next few months but it will likely be our last upgrade.
Other newer Moto devices will get O, probably towards the end of the year or early next year.
If you want consistent, regular updates and constantly be on the latest and greatest then buy a Pixel. End of story, nothing else will get you better.

kudouyuzi said:
I guess moto x pure will not have Android N, Android O is coming:crying:
I have waiting for a long time, moto still let me wait. I think moto is dying, it will be my last moto phone.
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What are you talking about? There are literally dozens of Nougat ROMs in the forums. I am currently running Resurrection Remix and their ROM is pretty stable on 7.1.1. I haven't had any issues with it and it's super smooth and fast. Try it!

blackra1n said:
What are you talking about? There are literally dozens of Nougat ROMs in the forums. I am currently running Resurrection Remix and their ROM is pretty stable on 7.1.1. I haven't had any issues with it and it's super smooth and fast. Try it!
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I somewhat agree with you. Am on latest Lineage build with boot.img fix and everything is working fine.
But you can't argue against, "Stock Moto is best Moto."
Moto's stock ROM usually have best performance and battery life.
P.S: They improved battery life in Soak Test. There's very little battery drain when phone is idle. Also the phone doesn't get heat up much when multitasking.

Unified reply:
The third party ROM does not have Moto's unique features, power consumption and instability.

antariksh said:
I somewhat agree with you. Am on latest Lineage build with boot.img fix and everything is working fine.
But you can't argue against, "Stock Moto is best Moto."
Moto's stock ROM usually have best performance and battery life.
P.S: They improved battery life in Soak Test. There's very little battery drain when phone is idle. Also the phone doesn't get heat up much when multitasking.
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Tell me, how is your in call volume mate, can you change it? Are you really sure everything is working fine? How about wave over the screen to wake the phone?
For someone that's a small issues but I rather stay on MM and wait for stock ROM.

lukas77 said:
Tell me, how is your in call volume mate, can you change it? Are you really sure everything is working fine? How about wave over the screen to wake the phone?
For someone that's a small issues but I rather stay on MM and wait for stock ROM.
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FYI, Yes. I can change Call volume without any problem. Also Audio and Mic are working perfectly fine.
"wave over the screen to wake the phone" - I guess, you meant AMBIENT DISPLAY.
Well, in your words, Yes, I can wave over the screen to wake the phone.
Am currently on Lineage 03/20 build with fixed boot.img from the dev.
and before that I was on 02/13 build which was just as stable as stock ROM.
Maybe you should look around in forum a bit more.

use custom rom or have patience

antariksh said:
I somewhat agree with you. Am on latest Lineage build with boot.img fix and everything is working fine.
But you can't argue against, "Stock Moto is best Moto."
Moto's stock ROM usually have best performance and battery life.
P.S: They improved battery life in Soak Test. There's very little battery drain when phone is idle. Also the phone doesn't get heat up much when multitasking.
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Yeah I'll admit the battery life isn't the greatest but it's also not that bad. At least there's the option for Nougat if one desires it

Moto X Pure/Style will not get Android O - ever. It's doubtful whether it will get anything other than 7.0 to be honest .

m+a+r+k said:
Moto X Pure/Style will not get Android O - ever. It's doubtful whether it will get anything other than 7.0 to be honest .
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Oh, it will get Android O, and probably P, maybe even Q too... But not officially or from Moto. Look at the Moto G (original one) it is 3 or close to 4 years old, and it is still supported by developers, you can get Nougat on it and will likely get O as well.
And why should Moto continue to support it? This phone is a getting close to 2 years old, there is no logical reason for Moto to continue supporting a platform that is getting beyond it's normal life cycle.

acejavelin said:
Oh, it will get Android O, and probably P, maybe even Q too... But not officially or from Moto. Look at the Moto G (original one) it is 3 or close to 4 years old, and it is still supported by developers, you can get Nougat on it and will likely get O as well.
And why should Moto continue to support it? This phone is a getting close to 2 years old, there is no logical reason for Moto to continue supporting a platform that is getting beyond it's normal life cycle.
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Keep dreaming if you think that'll happen. 7.1.1 is already out for many devices not to mention O aka Oreo for Nexus devices. Lenovo/Motorola is garbage and we all know this. That's why we all stop supporting these two garbage companies so they can go out of business.
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Knight-Rider said:
Keep dreaming if you think that'll happen. 7.1.1 is already out for many devices not to mention O aka Oreo for Nexus devices. Lenovo/Motorola is garbage and we all know this. That's why we all stop supporting these two garbage companies so they can go out of business.
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Read my post again... I am talking about 3rd party ROMs... We will get 7.0 from Moto, already know that and it will be the end.

Knight-Rider said:
Keep dreaming if you think that'll happen. 7.1.1 is already out for many devices not to mention O aka Oreo for Nexus devices. Lenovo/Motorola is garbage and we all know this. That's why we all stop supporting these two garbage companies so they can go out of business.
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HAHA! I think so!

Custom Rom
You know what I think Lenovo is never going the moto x android N in non US countries it is apparently out in Latin America
But If you want the rom just install Lineage OS they have a decent battery life for a custom and the device runs perfectly fine no bugs no lag nothing
A perfect Android N rom for almost all Motorola devices

I am trying my first custom ROM so please help.
I have Moto x Pure Edition XT 1575 on Android 6.0. I have not done anything to my phone yet and this is the first time I am trying. Would you please let me know the exact steps to root, flash and install custom ROM on my phone?

kaleend101 said:
I am trying my first custom ROM so please help.
I have Moto x Pure Edition XT 1575 on Android 6.0. I have not done anything to my phone yet and this is the first time I am trying. Would you please let me know the exact steps to root, flash and install custom ROM on my phone?
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No need to root the stock rom if you're just going to wipe it and flash a custom rom. The steps you need to follow are:
1) Unlock bootloader if not already done (note unlocking will automatically wipe the device, so backup files appropriately first)
2) Use fastboot to flash TWRP
3) Make a full backup in TWRP (don't skip this step as it can save you a lot of trouble if things go wrong)
4) Wipe and flash your custom rom. Flash gapps before booting in to the new rom too if you want Play store, etc.
5) Some roms aren't pre-rooted any more. If you want root, I recommend Magisk.
Details on how to do all this are spelled out step by step in Heisenberg's guide. Just do not root using the method in there. As I mentioned above, you don't have to root the stock rom just to replace it with a custom. However, if you feel the need to root the stock rom just flash Magisk. Don't flash that custom boot image it links to; that was a hack from the early days of systemless root that we no longer need.

Back when i was messing around with my Moto X Pure...i tried all the Mm roms at the time. Always found stock rom the smoothest and best battery life and most to my liking. A year or so later....it still has amazing battery life and nearly 2 days of standby time. It even outperforms my LG V10 even after replacing the battery.
And Android 8.0 is Octopus...apparently... not Oreo.....the dev preview build that is out has an Octopus logo thing in it now.