Hi All,
I have looked through the forums and searched the Google and I can't find the correct info for my situation so I appreciate any help.
I have a Moto G GPe that I ordered from Google Play, it came with Android 4.4.2 on it and I am wondering if I can downgrade it to 4.3.
I've unlocked the bootloader and it looks like I should be able to flash a custom recovery, the problem is that I cannot find an image for the stock Moto G GPe 4.3 firmware.
I want to downgrade because I have a need to test an Android app on 4.3.
Any thoughts?
Thanks in advance.
lysdexic said:
Hi All,
I have looked through the forums and searched the Google and I can't find the correct info for my situation so I appreciate any help.
I have a Moto G GPe that I ordered from Google Play, it came with Android 4.4.2 on it and I am wondering if I can downgrade it to 4.3.
I've unlocked the bootloader and it looks like I should be able to flash a custom recovery, the problem is that I cannot find an image for the stock Moto G GPe 4.3 firmware.
I want to downgrade because I have a need to test an Android app on 4.3.
Any thoughts?
Thanks in advance.
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There is a regular Motorola 4.3 firmware available
you can get it here - http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=14
just to let you know, it will try to force you to update to 4.4.2
AgentChaos said:
There is a regular Motorola 4.3 firmware available
you can get it here - http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=14
just to let you know, it will try to force you to update to 4.4.2
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Awesome, I wasn't sure if I could use the regular Motorola firmware on it. I had read that the partition tables are different and I've only seen threads where people flash from the Motorola firmware to the GPe version.
Do you think this would present any problems?
Thanks again.
Backup anything you want to keep because the phone will be completely wiped. There should be no problems. You can find out how to easily disable KitKat 'update' notifications, if you search this forum. It's worth considering there is an issue with the Moto G that should be patched in the next few weeks, but that will require you to update to 4.4.2/3.
https://forums.motorola.com/comment/774000
Hi, has everyone received their 4.4.3 update as I'm still waiting to receive mine also some are getting the 4.4.4 now so it seems a bit strange! Also does anyone know if I can update manually?
Thanks
alifff said:
Hi, has everyone received their 4.4.3 update as I'm still waiting to receive mine also some are getting the 4.4.4 now so it seems a bit strange! Also does anyone know if I can update manually?
Thanks
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you don't want 4.4.3 and they stopped it anyway, 4.4.4 has not been rolled out in the uk yet as far as i can tell from these forums.
quizmaniac said:
you don't want 4.4.3 and they stopped it anyway, 4.4.4 has not been rolled out in the uk yet as far as i can tell from these forums.
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Why is it taking so long for it to reach the UK, dont they just upload it on a server and thats it ?
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Why is it taking so long for it to reach the UK, dont they just upload it on a server and thats it ?
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It's far more complicated than that.For the moment the UK Moto Gs are still on 4.4.2 (which is actually a good thing).
Even if it comes out these days, I won't be updating, until the don't release a bugfix to patch all the issues with 4.4.4
liveroy said:
It's far more complicated than that.For the moment the UK Moto Gs are still on 4.4.2 (which is actually a good thing).
Even if it comes out these days, I won't be updating, until the don't release a bugfix to patch all the issues with 4.4.4
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What are the bugs with 4.4.4
NextGenGTR said:
What are the bugs with 4.4.4
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Can tell you only few that I find significant. But the full list is quite extensive.
OTG doesn't work at all.
The proximity sensor gets stuck/ doesn't react while incall.
Loss of Wi-Fi and 3G signal for no reason.
Your device emmc gets re-petitioned and may get bricked.
Some poorly written, but useful apps doesn't run
Miracast doesn't work from time to time.
The vast majority of issues are due to upgrading via OTA update. I've Fastboot flashed the 4.4.3 US firmware image and had none of these problems.
lost101 said:
The vast majority of issues are due to upgrading via OTA update. I've Fastboot flashed the 4.4.3 US firmware image and had none of these problems.
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In which sense bud? I mean, when i flashed ota for kk over jb i haven't had any problem. Do you mean in this sense?
I'm only suggesting if people are having issues; download the full firmware, wipe phone and flash via fastboot.
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I'm only suggesting if people are having issues; download the full firmware, wipe phone and flash via fastboot.
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umm ok.. problem that atm the only 443 complete firmware is the US i think. We need to wait...
True. But that image does work perfectly fine on a UK / EU XT1032.
Ok, so I've been doing a lot of reading, and would like some confirmation for if I understand this part correctly, I had a hard time finding anything on flashing rules for the moto g.
In general you can flash any rom stock or custom back and forth as long as you stay within the same version number or you can update, but no downgrading, am I right? So if I have a boost moto g with stock 4.4.2 and I flash to Verizon stock 4.4.2(for pageplus) or CM11(for custom rom) I can then turnaround and flash boost stock 4.4.2 and everything will be fine? as long as I don't upgrade to 4.4.4 in which case I would be fine as long as I stay within 4.4.4 roms?
Please let me know if I understand this correctly, and if I missed any small but important details that have to do with rom flashing.
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Ok, so I've been doing a lot of reading, and would like some confirmation for if I understand this part correctly, I had a hard time finding anything on flashing rules for the moto g.
In general you can flash any rom stock or custom back and forth as long as you stay within the same version number or you can update, but no downgrading, am I right? So if I have a boost moto g with stock 4.4.2 and I flash to Verizon stock 4.4.2(for pageplus) or CM11(for custom rom) I can then turnaround and flash boost stock 4.4.2 and everything will be fine? as long as I don't upgrade to 4.4.4 in which case I would be fine as long as I stay within 4.4.4 roms?
Please let me know if I understand this correctly, and if I missed any small but important details that have to do with rom flashing.
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yep you got it correctly..
theonecallednick said:
yep you got it correctly..
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It's about time someone answered. Thank you so much for your response
deanspeed said:
It's about time someone answered. Thank you so much for your response
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no problem bro, happy to help
Actually you can't downgrade from 4.4.x to 4.3 because the bootloader is different and if you try you'll brick your device but you can flash any rom back and forth if is based on 4.4.x because the minor release are just small bugfix to the system. So actually what said theonecallednick it's not totally true.
Hi all,
I have rooted my Moto G and I installed Cyanogenmod 11 on it.
Cyanogenmod hasn't made Snapshot builds since M6.
M6 is getting old. I could install the latest nightly, but last time I installed a nightly version I couldn't play Soundcloud and other music related apps.
So I want to go back to Stock 4.4.4
I've got 2 questions:
1) Where can I download the stock firmware? I have already searched at http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=14 , but I can't find the latest 4.4.4 update. (at least not for my region, which is The Netherlands)
2) There are plenty of firmwares. Before I installed Cyanogenmod, Stock 4.4.2 176.44.1.falcon_umts.EURetail.en.EU (no specific carrier) was preinstalled on the device. Now I would like to install Android 4.4.2 KOT49H.M004 (no specific carrier) which is smaller than the preinstalled one. But is it safe to do that?
Thanks in advance!
Did you ever update your phone to 4.4.4 on stock via OTA?
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danielsinnema said:
Hi all,
I have rooted my Moto G and I installed Cyanogenmod 11 on it.
Cyanogenmod hasn't made Snapshot builds since M6.
M6 is getting old. I could install the latest nightly, but last time I installed a nightly version I couldn't play Soundcloud and other music related apps.
So I want to go back to Stock 4.4.4
I've got 2 questions:
1) Where can I download the stock firmware? I have already searched at http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=14 , but I can't find the latest 4.4.4 update. (at least not for my region, which is The Netherlands)
2) There are plenty of firmwares. Before I installed Cyanogenmod, Stock 4.4.2 176.44.1.falcon_umts.EURetail.en.EU (no specific carrier) was preinstalled on the device. Now I would like to install Android 4.4.2 KOT49H.M004 (no specific carrier) which is smaller than the preinstalled one. But is it safe to do that?
Thanks in advance!
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What's your bootloader version? If it's 41.13 you can install the GPE 4.4.4 firmware, pure android from google, or the European version again, if you want the Motorola features (MotoCamera, MotoGallery, Radio FM, MotoAssist, SMS Messaging (AOSP), Keyboard (AOSP), MotoCare, MotoMigrate). I like the GPE, I miss just a little the HDR mode of the MotoCamera. GPE also consumes less ram.
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What's your bootloader version? If it's 41.13 you can install the GPE 4.4.4 firmware, pure android from google, or the European version again, if you want the Motorola features (MotoCamera, MotoGallery, Radio FM, MotoAssist, SMS Messaging (AOSP), Keyboard (AOSP), MotoCare, MotoMigrate). I like the GPE, I miss just a little the HDR mode of the MotoCamera. GPE also consumes less ram.
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Hi,
Thank you for your reply.
I found out that I have bootloader version 41.13. I would like to convert my moto g to Google Play Edition. Is it safe to install KOT49H (4.4.2, which has a lower bootloader version)? I can't find the file for GPE 4.4.4.
pfufle said:
Did you ever update your phone to 4.4.4 on stock via OTA?
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Yes, I updated from 4.4.2 to 4.4.4 via OTA on stock ROM. I had installed a custom recovery at that moment. I was afraid it would go wrong, but the recovery successfully installed 4.4.4.
danielsinnema said:
Hi,
Thank you for your reply.
How do I get to know the bootloader version? By the way, I didn't know I mentioned the google play edition firmware. And where can I find the firmware of 4.4.4? On that website I can only find 4.4.2.
Again, thanks!
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If you updated to 4.4.4 via OTA you running the v41.13, it's shown in the fastboot main page (the one you get when you press vol down + power button). There you go:
GPE 4.4.4
If you have XT1032 will work for sure, I never tested it on other models.:good:
oversleeper said:
If you updated to 4.4.4 via OTA you running the v41.13, it's shown in the fastboot main page (the one you get when you press vol down + power button). There you go:
GPE 4.4.4
If you have XT1032 will work for sure, I never tested it on other models.:good:
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Thank you.
I'm now downloading 4.4.4 GPE for Moto G.
I think I will need help again when it's time to install.
Is it the same procedure?
danielsinnema said:
Thank you.
I'm now downloading 4.4.4 GPE for Moto G.
I think I will need help again when it's time to install.
Is it the same procedure?
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Pretty easy... just download this bat, put it in the same folder of firmware and fastboot and run it:good:
for normal fastboot
for mfastboot
oversleeper said:
Pretty easy... just download this bat, put it in the same folder of firmware and fastboot and run it:good:
for normal fastboot
for mfastboot
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I successfully coverted my moto g to a GPE.
Thank you very much for your help! I couldn't have done / I wouldn't dare it without you.
Those batch files are very useful. I used to flash it manual..
THANKS!
danielsinnema said:
I successfully coverted my moto g to a GPE.
Thank you very much for your help! I couldn't have done / I wouldn't dare it without you.
Those batch files are very useful. I used to flash it manual..
THANKS!
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You're welcome I hope you like your GPE Moto G as I like it. It's a very light firmware, on my device the battery consumption in airplane mode is only 3℅ per night and the average ram usage is like 450-500 MB. Also I never got lag during the usage... And you get updates 1 month before the others. Enjoy it
This thread answers the questions I've been wondering about for the longest while but one problem, my bootloader is 41.11 (XT 1032 US Global version on 4.4.3) and my worries is if I update to 4.4.4 GPE and want to switch back to stock 4.4.3, I would not be able to. Currently running 4.4.2 GPE on the 41.11 (stock 4.4.3) bootloader. Everything works well, just can't change bootloader, obviously.
lifetimes said:
This thread answers the questions I've been wondering about for the longest while but one problem, my bootloader is 41.11 (XT 1032 US Global version on 4.4.3) and my worries is if I update to 4.4.4 GPE and want to switch back to stock 4.4.3, I would not be able to. Currently running 4.4.2 GPE on the 41.11 (stock 4.4.3) bootloader. Everything works well, just can't change bootloader, obviously.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/general/xt1033-t2821556
This thread will answer these remaining questions too
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/general/xt1033-t2821556
This thread will answer these remaining questions too...The thread us for the Asian version but the same logic applies to the us version too...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/general/xt1033-t2821556
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The only sure thing I can see is updating without flashing the bootloader. I've set up 4.4.2 GPE how I want it, so I'll keep it for for now.
lifetimes said:
The only sure thing I can see is updating without flashing the bootloader. I've set up 4.4.2 GPE how I want it, so I'll keep it for for now.
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I flashed 4.4.4 GPE then 4.4.4 brazil, then 4.4.3 brazil, then 4.4.2 brazil, then 4.4.2 GPE... in this precise order. You can flash whatever you want The only thing you can't downgrade is the bootloader.
lifetimes said:
The only sure thing I can see is updating without flashing the bootloader. I've set up 4.4.2 GPE how I want it, so I'll keep it for for now.
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That is exactly what you are supposed to do...and even the emmc in some cases..
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I flashed 4.4.4 GPE then 4.4.4 brazil, then 4.4.3 brazil, then 4.4.2 brazil, then 4.4.2 GPE... in this precise order. You can flash whatever you want The only thing you can't downgrade is the bootloader.
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Yeah, that is what I won't do at the moment as I am supposed to get the phone sold.
pfufle said:
That is exactly what you are supposed to do...and even the emmc in some cases..
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The firmwares for 4.4.2 and 4.4.4 GPE does not have in the emmc but the OTA does. As I said above, someone is looking to buy the phone, so I would leave it as is. Plan to get to get the dual sim version.
oversleeper said:
You're welcome I hope you like your GPE Moto G as I like it. It's a very light firmware, on my device the battery consumption in airplane mode is only 3℅ per night and the average ram usage is like 450-500 MB. Also I never got lag during the usage... And you get updates 1 month before the others. Enjoy it
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Yeah thanks.
Do you also know how to go back to Motorola's Stock Firmware?
I would like to go back because for me the battery life is worse at GPE.
danielsinnema said:
Yeah thanks.
Do you also know how to go back to Motorola's Stock Firmware?
I would like to go back because for me the battery life is worse at GPE.
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Just flash the stock firmware but make sure you do not downgrade your boot loader...
pfufle said:
Just flash the stock firmware but make sure you do not downgrade your boot loader...
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Well, I tried to do that, but it failed.
So I flashed GPE 4.4.4 again.
Isn't it possible to install stock 4.4.2 and update via OTA update?
I can't find Motorola's stock ROM for my region, which is the Netherlands.
No I don't believe you can ota because if a different boot loader version...you can flash the European union firmware...
Hi, someone can give me a tutorial to downgrade to marshmallow? I'm just getting back to android from iphone and I bought a second hand T-mobile galaxy s7 and I want to downgrade to 6.1.1
AngelxCasas said:
Hi, someone can give me a tutorial to downgrade to marshmallow? I'm just getting back to android from iphone and I bought a second hand T-mobile galaxy s7 and I want to downgrade to 6.1.1
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US GS7-s have locked bootloaders, which means we're unable to downgrade until bootloader keys are leaked or T-Mobile unlocks it for us, which probably will never happen.
installerrev said:
US GS7-s have locked bootloaders, which means we're unable to downgrade until bootloader keys are leaked or T-Mobile unlocks it for us, which probably will never happen.
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I just downloaded the 6.0.1 image for g930T and flash it with ODIN and that's it, I'm on 6.0.1 again :d
Ya I have downgraded from 7.0 to 6.0.1 several times already with no problems. My issue is that Nougat rooted is very laggy so I been trying all sort of fixes like govtuner etc but it is still laggy
anyway, here is attached screenshot of how I downgrade quickly and easily on sm-g930t
suddene said:
Ya I have downgraded from 7.0 to 6.0.1 several times already with no problems. My issue is that Nougat rooted is very laggy so I been trying all sort of fixes like govtuner etc but it is still laggy
anyway, here is attached screenshot of how I downgrade quickly and easily on sm-g930t
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I'm running on stock nougat and the phone is speedy, gets ok battery life and I'm really not missing root because I've found ways to make it do what I want. The only thing I miss is TB.