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Why you can't root your Samsung Galaxy S6 Verizon on 5.1.1.
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1.) The Bootloader is locked so you can't like flash a package to root your phone.
2.) There are no true exploits...
^ This means that there are no exploits for the Samsung Galaxy S6 Verizon, what do I mean by this ? Well I don't consider a FLASH FILE to be a exploit of some sorts mostly because this root method is using recovery or download mode.
3.) I hope knox dies in a fire somewhere.
4.) No one is developing a exploit to root the Samsung Galaxy S6 Verizon without tripping knox
^ Why is this ? Well unlike the iOS jailbreaking community where to jailbreak your iphone you need to use a exploit that somebody put into a executable that will also install cydia and mobile substrate. We have gotten to used to using recovery mode or download mode to root a device, so when a device comes out with a locked bootloader people don't want to take the time to make a exploit for this new device.
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If anybody can post a better thread about
why you can't root the Samsung Galaxy S6 Verizon on 5.1.1.
that will be much appreciated.
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1. So you can't like, root it, like ever ever?
2. Sure there are, some people may simply choose not to publicly share them.
3. Knox isn't so bad. It's no worse than a locked boot loader.
4. No one? Did you confirm with all of *them*?
Also: s/a/an is OK sometimes.
s6 is like the note 3 not enough people care about it,like an unjailbroken iphone were just another sheep in the flock ,i actually hate my s6 compared to my s5 (should of never switched)they took a great phone and in my opinion ruined it all the best features i used to love are no more i find myself using my iphone more and more lateley (jailbroken of course).just my thoughts have a great day all.
I feel the same way about my S6 compared to my S4. I didn't have a problem with the plastic build, the SD card, the removable battery, and the perfect size and screen. All they had to do was speed up the internals and that's it. I too should have kept my S4. Next phone is gonna be Nexus for sure.
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I'm still using the charge for my daily driver. The original one I had died and for $50 and a trip to ebay, I'm back in business.
The phone is EP5 with tweaked 3.2. The phone works but has lag and the ROM is loosing support. I know about Tweaked lite 1.0 but the themes and boot animations are missing...
It has been a long time since I've shopped phones and am starting to think about it again. Now I have some questions:
1. Since I have Verizon's unlimited data, I have to buy phones outright in order to keep data. What phones are worth buying now or waiting for?
2. If I buy a new phone like the galaxy S5, how easy will it be to root? Will I have to wait for a ROM to be developed or can I just add root to the stock phone?
3. What are the benefits of kitkat versus the old OS that charge has?
4. Why do phone manufactures insist that bigger is better? I like the size of the charge and if I get another phone the same size, I am forced to get a "less than the best" model.
5. With flash no longer being supported on android, has someone cooked a batch that will work with kitkat or are we SOL? I do use the phone every year to watch football games online. It sucks that I live out of market for the Vikings and am stuck with Jets, bills and other teams I could care less about.
I think that's about it. I guess I'm just weary of shelling out hundreds of dollars to get a new phone when the one I have does most of the stuff I want.
Mike
beavermjr said:
I'm still using the charge for my daily driver. The original one I had died and for $50 and a trip to ebay, I'm back in business.
The phone is EP5 with tweaked 3.2. The phone works but has lag and the ROM is loosing support. I know about Tweaked lite 1.0 but the themes and boot animations are missing...
It has been a long time since I've shopped phones and am starting to think about it again. Now I have some questions:
1. Since I have Verizon's unlimited data, I have to buy phones outright in order to keep data. What phones are worth buying now or waiting for?
2. If I buy a new phone like the galaxy S5, how easy will it be to root? Will I have to wait for a ROM to be developed or can I just add root to the stock phone?
3. What are the benefits of kitkat versus the old OS that charge has?
4. Why do phone manufactures insist that bigger is better? I like the size of the charge and if I get another phone the same size, I am forced to get a "less than the best" model.
5. With flash no longer being supported on android, has someone cooked a batch that will work with kitkat or are we SOL? I do use the phone every year to watch football games online. It sucks that I live out of market for the Vikings and am stuck with Jets, bills and other teams I could care less about.
I think that's about it. I guess I'm just weary of shelling out hundreds of dollars to get a new phone when the one I have does most of the stuff I want.
Mike
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I upgraded from the Charge to the Note 3 in December. While the Charge was a good starter phone for me, I was chomping at the bit for a new phone.
1. I love my Note 3, but it is BIG.
2. Since Verizon hasn't released the s5, don't know about rooting it. However, if past behavior is any guide, the Note 3 has a locked bootloader so you can't flash kernels(no ASOP). I rooted it with Kingo and have safestrap installed to test non-stock roms.
3. I have the kitkat version of PacRom on my Galaxy Tab2 7.0; I've noticed very little difference between 4.4 and 4.3.
4. That kind of bugs me too, they should have a Galaxy s5 Mini with the same specs but a smaller screen. On the other hand, the new phones are thinner and the larger screens look really nice. Also I have "old eyes", hence the Note 3(I also like the S-pen).
5. It could be worse, you could have TWO teams leave your market the same year(damn Rams and Raiders). My understanding that discontinuing Flash support was more of an Adobe decision. Other than that I've got nothing.
Did I mention I love my Note 3?
10amla said:
I upgraded from the Charge to the Note 3 in December. While the Charge was a good starter phone for me, I was chomping at the bit for a new phone.
1. I love my Note 3, but it is BIG.
2. Since Verizon hasn't released the s5, don't know about rooting it. However, if past behavior is any guide, the Note 3 has a locked bootloader so you can't flash kernels(no ASOP). I rooted it with Kingo and have safestrap installed to test non-stock roms.
3. I have the kitkat version of PacRom on my Galaxy Tab2 7.0; I've noticed very little difference between 4.4 and 4.3.
4. That kind of bugs me too, they should have a Galaxy s5 Mini with the same specs but a smaller screen. On the other hand, the new phones are thinner and the larger screens look really nice. Also I have "old eyes", hence the Note 3(I also like the S-pen).
5. It could be worse, you could have TWO teams leave your market the same year(damn Rams and Raiders). My understanding that discontinuing Flash support was more of an Adobe decision. Other than that I've got nothing.
Did I mention I love my Note 3?
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#3 the charge has android 2.3.6. new phones have kit kat 4.4? what is the difference?
#5 I've read about browsers with built in flash and hacked versions of flash. Do any of them work?
#5b. 2 teams? How do you manage? It's bad enough watching one team limp through last season. oh and don't get me started on Jared Allen.
beavermjr said:
#3 the charge has android 2.3.6. new phones have kit kat 4.4? what is the difference?
#5 I've read about browsers with built in flash and hacked versions of flash. Do any of them work?
#5b. 2 teams? How do you manage? It's bad enough watching one team limp through last season. oh and don't get me started on Jared Allen.
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#3 My comparison was based on 4.3 vs 4.4. The difference between 2.3 and 4.4 is the difference between night and day. One of the problem that I began running in to, was many apps that would only work on 4.0+.
#5 Not sure about browsers with build-in flash.
#5b I wasn't too great a loss to me, I was always more of a college football fan. One team in particular(Go Bruins).
Who usually works on root for att devices? I know the bootloader is locked but is anyone working on it?
I haven't heard of someone specifically working on it. But they could be working on and keeping it on the DL so they don't get pestered to death.
Now from another thread, user @android-DEP did some research with adb commands here is his post:
android-DEP said:
Finally,i found the slideshow presentation i recently read that was posted online by the NSA, they're the ones implementing SELINUX to work with this KNOX bull****, plus all the other cute names of whatever other misc. technology, SAFE, TIMA.... i'm sure everyone saw the long list of garbage in the About section underneath where it shows the KNOX version.
The whole KNOX thing isn't where the issue is on the locked bootloader on NOTE 4. Since Knox was intended to be used in Enterprise corporate environments where a centralized server can be put in place to manage users devices, tripping that knox bit doesn't necessarily automatically void your warranty. About rooting Samsung KNOX-enabled devices and the KNOX warranty void bit. This is also discussed here, Knox Security & locked bootloader on new firmwares. Reading these 2 blogs was interesting and good info to know because I had a different idea of what this knox business was really all about.
Somewhere I stumbled upon a link to some NSA stuff to find out that the NOTE 4 was their chosen platform that they have thoroughly tested against every security standard in their books and all the new security changes they've implemented have held up to pass with flying colors. So one thing off the top I remembered clearly was that it is no longer possible to write to the /system partition within in domain or by any anything other than in recovery. Since previously the SELINUX was set to PERMISSIVE mode, there was wiggle room to work with whereas now it's set to ENFORCING by a mandatory device policy which simply denies all attempts and requests made to get access to the /system partition.
I was able to use adb to push busybox as well as the su binary files to /data/local/tmp directory where the shell has read\write privileges which let me use chmod 777 busybox, and the same thing for su. Then you can use them by first typing in ./busybox and whatever function\command you want busybox to perform. I spent last night and all of today just trying every single command and combo and variation of using busybox with just the su binary, I even installed supersu.apk and superuser.apk and kingroot.apk, tested a few dozen different mod strings variations using towelroot, I even decompiled a simple apk application to declare permission for request_superuser because using the "pm grant com.testapp.something android.permission.REQUEST_SUPERUSER", according the command usage instructions is supposed to grant the app whatever permission it's requesting that isn't by default granted by the system originally. So if an app is requesting some specific permission that was denied, "theoretically" that command should grant the privilege to the app so it would be able to run normally, but it just denies installing the app on the device no matter what I've tried.
Then I reread this statement from the NSA site on this exact phone
Security Evaluation Summary
The evaluation was carried out in accordance with the Common Criteria Evaluation and Validation Scheme (CCEVS) process and scheme. The criteria against which the Samsung Galaxy Note 4, Galaxy Note Edge, Galaxy Alpha & Galaxy Tab S 8.4 LTE & 10.5 LTE with KNOX 2 was judged are described in the Common Criteria for Information Technology Security Evaluation, Version 3.1 rev 4. The evaluation methodology used by the evaluation team to conduct the evaluation is the Common Methodology for Information Technology Security Evaluation, Version 3.1 rev 4. Gossamer Security Solutions determined that the evaluation assurance level (EAL) for the product is EAL 1. The product, when delivered and configured as identified in the Samsung Android 4.4 on Galaxy Devices Guidance Documentation, version 1.14, October 31, 2014 document, satisfies all of the security functional requirements stated in the Samsung Galaxy Note 4, Galaxy Note Edge, Galaxy Alpha, Galaxy Tab S 8.4 LTE & 10.5 LTE, & Galaxy Tab Active with KNOX 2 (MDFPP11) Security Target, Version 1.1, October 31, 2014. The project underwent CCEVS Validator review. The evaluation was completed in October 2014. Results of the evaluation can be found in the Common Criteria Evaluation and Validation Scheme Validation Report (report number CCEVS-VR-VID10597-2014) prepared by CCEVS.
Compliant Product - Samsung Galaxy Note 4, Galaxy Note Edge, Galaxy Alpha, Galaxy Tab S 8.4 LTE & 10.5 LTE, & Galaxy Tab Active with KNOX 2
Then reading this was like getting punched in the stomach
Protecting the Android TCB with SELinux
And this
Security Enhancements (SE) for Android
So I doubt my futile efforts would be any match against whatever the NSA has signed off on. This task would require someone that has a far deeper understanding of manipulating the coding to try exploiting any known vulnerabilities like geohot or comex or djrbliss... I really doubt there will be root available for the at&t variant anytime soon, I'm on the verge of trading this phone for a galaxy S5 with someone just because the S5 is rootable and I never knew how much I relied on having root permissions, it's frustrating to not be able to do so many things with the phone that I never realized required root
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Also this thread might be useful to follow for root info. It's at least got people conversing on the subject.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2961974
Also http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2930222
It's for the note 4 and correct me if I'm wrong but if it works for the note 4 it should work for the note edge as well.... right?
And also here is the bounty thread for note 4 root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2946770
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Thanks for the links. I should have just stayed patient and ordered from tmobile. I wanted the phone so bad I went to att without even considering this would be a problem lol.
Darksynz said:
Thanks for the links. I should have just stayed patient and ordered from tmobile. I wanted the phone so bad I went to att without even considering this would be a problem lol.
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I did the same thing. I ended up returning the att model and bought the T-Mobile version. Att is always a struggle with the locked bootloaders. Could be awhile before root comes. I can tell you getting the T-Mobile one was well worth it. Root is great and it runs smoother than the att one. Could be an illusion but it seems a lot better.
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woke up today and was like man, i'd really like to root my AT&T Note Edge and debloat it some. now i'm sad...
don't give up on us devs !
I will personally murder any person of your choosing with my teeth if you can get the ATT Note edge rooted.
WITH. MY. TEETH.
I almost got to trade my note edge for a tmobile note 4 today..... almost. But then they stopped responding .... BUT I love the edge so maybe it for the better.
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Got my note edge and aside the nasty side effect these Samsung phones have called TouchWiz I love it
Can't wait for the development team to figure out how to root the vzw model
why they continue to sell us locked devices is beyond me. The 1 thing I'm missing
and feel I can't live without for long is viper4android
That requires root and since that isn't available yet anyone know of a good
alternative that doesn't require root? Something close to on par with viper?
It's pretty funny how Exynos-powered Samsung devices used to be considered less developer-friendly, but it's now their Snapdragon counterparts that are getting harder and harder to crack. This was the case with the Galaxy S7 and S7 edge last year, as well as the current Galaxy S8 and S8+. Some talented developers were able to get theselocked-down Samsung phones rooted*earlier this month. It's now available to the public, and it's (appropriately) called SamPWND.
We first heard about this breakthrough back on August 11th; however, there wasn't a tutorial that could be followed. There is now, and as long as you're not a complete tech illiterate, it's pretty easy to parse. This tutorial focuses on the Galaxy S8+ (G955U and G955U1), but will also work on the Galaxy S8 (G950U and G950U1). It's important to remember that this does*not*unlock your bootloader, as this is exploit-based. On the plus side, KNOX won't be tripped, so you should be able to keep your warranty as long as your phone's stock software is reflashed before you send it in.
From android police site !!!!
Hello guys, recently I dropped my LG G2 and broke its screen, so I decided to buy a new phone. I've searched a lot in the internet and I think I'm going to buy a Galaxy S7, but before doing so, I would like to get these questions answered (I would really appreciate if you could answer these questions, it'd help me a lot):
1. Which version would you recommend me to buy, S7 or S7 Edge? Is it purely up to my taste or are there any key differences? When it comes to my taste, I prefer S7 because I don't like the curved edges.
2. Should I pick the Snapdragon version or Exynos version? I have the possibility to choose, which one is better?
3. I'm afraid of burn-ins that are very common on AMOLED screens, does this phone suffer from kind of problem?
4. Is it possible for me to root this phone and then unroot it without letting Samsung know it was previously rooted (I mean, still get warranty after unroot)?
5. What about custom ROMs? Are they easy to install on this phone? what about camera driver, is it released by Samsung or is it closed source? (I'm asking this because my current phone, LG G2, doesn't have its camera driver released by LG, that means, we use a generic camera driver on custom ROMs like LineageOS and thus reduces the camera quality a lot)
Thank you for your time
1. Personal choice, same specs, bigger battery/screen in Edge
2. Exynos (Snapdragon is bootloader locked)
3. Not been many complaints, only a handful
4. No, once you flash custom you permanently trip KNOX, no reset
5. Not as easy as older phones but still fairly easy, camera driver not open source afaik, needs a touchwiz ROM for full quality
Thank you for your answers.
About question 4, all I want to do by now is root and use this app:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/08/12/hands-battery-charge-limit-rooted-devices-exactly-expect/
Don't you think I can root and use this, then unroot and still get warranty? (I'm asking this because you said "flash custom", maybe you got me wrong)
I think, re: 4, and what Detection said is that you will trip the Knox, and then Samsung will know the phone has been OS tampered at it's root level. What will Samsung do then about your warranty, knowing you intentionally breached their OEM OS?
Root is custom, root trips knox