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We were able to get LTE working on the Nexus 4, abit crudely though, I read something about the Nexus 5 having an adjustable tuner, or something like that. Any chance somebody can "adjust" it to work on band 13 for Verizon?
I currently have a Galaxy Nexus, what would happen if I put my SIM card into the Nexus 5? Would it work with CDMA? It has the right CDMA bands and frequencies that Verizon uses. And if I was in an AWS band 4 area, I suppose LTE could work as well.
I know that I can pop my SIM card in any other Verizon phone, and it will work, CDMA and LTE. I don't need to go to Verizon to activate the CDMA part of the phone. So let's say I got a G2 and put my Galaxy Nexus SIM in it, it would work just like my Galaxy Nexus. So if I put my SIM card into a Nexus 5, wouldn't the CDMA just work because my SIM is there and it has the correct CDMA bands? If it does, I guess all we would have to do is get band 13 working so we can get full LTE support on Verizon.
I'm almost compelled to buy a Nexus 5 now and try this out, and hope somebody figures out how to get band 13 working.
Am I just dreaming or what?
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We were able to get LTE working on the Nexus 4, abit crudely though, I read something about the Nexus 5 having an adjustable tuner, or something like that. Any chance somebody can "adjust" it to work on band 13 for Verizon?
I currently have a Galaxy Nexus, what would happen if I put my SIM card into the Nexus 5? Would it work with CDMA? It has the right CDMA bands and frequencies that Verizon uses. And if I was in an AWS band 4 area, I suppose LTE could work as well.
I know that I can pop my SIM card in any other Verizon phone, and it will work, CDMA and LTE. I don't need to go to Verizon to activate the CDMA part of the phone. So let's say I got a G2 and put my Galaxy Nexus SIM in it, it would work just like my Galaxy Nexus. So if I put my SIM card into a Nexus 5, wouldn't the CDMA just work because my SIM is there and it has the correct CDMA bands? If it does, I guess all we would have to do is get band 13 working so we can get full LTE support on Verizon.
I'm almost compelled to buy a Nexus 5 now and try this out, and hope somebody figures out how to get band 13 working.
Am I just dreaming or what?
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I'd say it's easier to leave VZW.
Can you just do hacks and get the band to work?
And secondly it won't work. There have been countless posts about this. When you pop your Sim in it may take a while for service because Verizon is checking the imei on the phone to either grant it access or deny it access to the network.
I'm sure many people have ordered one and hope it will work (I have seen comments on dlife about them).
If the actual hardware components (Transceiver, Power Amplifier, Filters, Duplexers, etc..) on Nexus 5 support Band 13, maybe.
But you can't magically software enable something that doesn't physically exist.
How are you going to add the ESN to Verizons network???
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Yes the actual hardware supports Band 13, this phone hardware wise is a G2 dressed in a different set of clothing and that's it. My Nexus 7 LTE works just fine on Verizon's Band 13 and my IMEI is not in Verizon's database. Now Verizon wont activate a sim in a device that isn't in their database and Verizon CDMA has always been unlocked. I am betting money if you take a sim out of an iPhone 5 and live/visit a market where Verizon is doing LTE on AWS and pop that nano into a Nexus 5 your gonna auth on the LTE network and your gonna be working 100%
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And secondly it won't work. There have been countless posts about this. When you pop your Sim in it may take a while for service because Verizon is checking the imei on the phone to either grant it access or deny it access to the network.
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I currently have the Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 7 LTE. The Nexus 7 LTE's IMEI is not in Verizon's database and it still works when I put my Verizon SIM into it, and it does not take it a while to get service.
I understand things are different with CDMA, but I still have a sliver of hope that somebody will get this working on Verizon.
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Yes the actual hardware supports Band 13, this phone hardware wise is a G2 dressed in a different set of clothing and that's it. My Nexus 7 LTE works just fine on Verizon's Band 13 and my IMEI is not in Verizon's database. Now Verizon wont activate a sim in a device that isn't in their database and Verizon CDMA has always been unlocked. I am betting money if you take a sim out of an iPhone 5 and live/visit a market where Verizon is doing LTE on AWS and pop that nano into a Nexus 5 your gonna auth on the LTE network and your gonna be working 100%
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Same sentiments except the Nexus is micro sim so you would need a converter. Band 13 is controversial because VZ has a consent decree to allow open device access but other bands are not covered. Since Band 13 is not enabled a hacked modem FW need to be installed to enable as such. The Nex 7 LTE does not support CDMA nor Voice so that is not exactly the same.
BTW my S4 now shows Band 17/20 support with the new MJ7 Modem update.
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Yes the actual hardware supports Band 13, this phone hardware wise is a G2 dressed in a different set of clothing and that's it. My Nexus 7 LTE works just fine on Verizon's Band 13 and my IMEI is not in Verizon's database. Now Verizon wont activate a sim in a device that isn't in their database and Verizon CDMA has always been unlocked. I am betting money if you take a sim out of an iPhone 5 and live/visit a market where Verizon is doing LTE on AWS and pop that nano into a Nexus 5 your gonna auth on the LTE network and your gonna be working 100%
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IMEI can be activated by Verizon
from google forums:
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/nexus/Jv9FAwucMWM/7pIfTKxY5yUJ
sconosciute on Dec 1 said:
Okay so non-vzw device is actually a common issue. It is completely possible to activate a non Verizon device on the Verizon Wireless network, thought it's not something we advertise, and chances are you if you ask us if it's possible we will give you the blanket answer of no because many phones designed for other carriers are locked to that carrier, it is possible to unlock it for activation on another network (eg AT&T iPhone on Verizon network) but it's not something we do. When we receive something that the system does not recognize (it can only be done by placing an active sim into a new device) we have to fill out an e911 compliance form and manually add the MEID/IMEI to the system, tech support is capable of doing all of this upon request.
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FYI: I have a Nexus 5 on latest Marshmallow update and it runs great on the Project Fi network after I activated the SIM in my Nexus 6.
Thought I would try this to answer your questions.
I have an activated VZW SIM which I swap out to many other devices, including the Project Fi version of the Nexus 6 (Non-VZW device), a Droid MAXX, GPE HTC One... and many unlocked tablets and MiFi hotspots without issues (so long as the bands are supported).
I popped the VZW SIM into the Nexus 5 and it recognized the SIM but showed no network service. I attempted the pre-configured VZW APN settings to no success. I then manually entered all APN settings from the Nexus 6 which works fine. Nothing... no service.
While you may be able to get VZW to manually add your IMEI to their E911 database, I doubt it's worth the effort.
In Short and to re-confirm all of the previous posts... NO, you cannot use a Nexus 5 on Verizon wireless.
I recommend you go pick up a 5X and it'll work straight up out of the box.... or sign up for Project Fi. I love Fi but keep my VZW for the unlimited data.
After several long calls with Verizon and help from Motorola insiders, I have been given to understand that:
1. Droid Maxx if not activated on Verizon, before leaving US, cannot be used on other carriers (say in Europe or Asia).
The reason is the SIM unlock cannot be done by the customer support since they won't see the device in their network if it is not activated first.
2. The activation cannot happen outside US, since Verizon does not have a network.
So bottom line is get the device activated before you import it from US.
Now, my Droid Maxx is locked to Verizon. I know the boot loader can be unlocked. Will this help me in flashing something that can get rid of the SIM lock that Verizon has in place.
My device is an employee edition so perhaps there was some extra protection added there by Verizon.
Please help.
I do not have a Maxx, but I'm replying because you PM'd me asking to take a look at this thread..
It has been my experience that Verizon's 4GLte phones are sim unlocked (on the GSM side) out of the box. I thought that was a condition of VZW's 700Mhz spectrum auction win? One potential issue is does the phone support the needed bands out of the box (think Bionic where a hack was needed to enable bands needed for T-mobile).
That being said, if your Maxx is truly SIM LOCKED, then unlocking the bootloader wont help you SIM unlock, nor will flashing a 3rd party Rom after unlocking the bootloader.
where are you located, and who is your carrier? Do they use CDMA for voice, or GSM? What happens when you put a non-VZW sim in the phone?
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I do not have a Maxx, but I'm replying because you PM'd me asking to take a look at this thread..
It has been my experience that Verizon's 4GLte phones are sim unlocked (on the GSM side) out of the box. I thought that was a condition of VZW's 700Mhz spectrum auction win? One potential issue is does the phone support the needed bands out of the box (think Bionic where a hack was needed to enable bands needed for T-mobile).
That being said, if your Maxx is truly SIM LOCKED, then unlocking the bootloader wont help you SIM unlock, nor will flashing a 3rd party Rom after unlocking the bootloader.
where are you located, and who is your carrier? Do they use CDMA for voice, or GSM? What happens when you put a non-VZW sim in the phone?
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Thanks Mark.
The phone Droid Maxx does support these bands since there are others who are using the same phone on GSM networks in the country.
The networks in India are:
2G capabilities GSM 900, GSM 1800
3G capabilities UMTS 2100
4G capabilities LTE 2300 (this one won't work with the phone, plus my carrier does not have it either)
The CDMA is CDMA 2000 - but I have not been able to try with a CDMA SIM, but that one has a higher probability of working.
When I put a non-VZ SIM, and set to Global mode, it does not detect any signal and the search network does pretty much nothing. The automatic mode tries to connect but then throws an error saying "can't connect to this network at this time"
I am using a brand new nano SIM card (which now is back in my Moto Defy with an adapter.)
Earlier I had a normal SIM converted to a nano SIM and that one did not work, but after I put in APN manually, I was able to access data.
I tried another user's cut-nano SIM and that one worked for data out of the box (another GSM provider).
Ditto for me, but I am using DroidMini... I also have DroidMAXX which is working great (even unlocked its BL and rooted it)...
I am also from India... Using it in GSM networks... I may get one Nano CDMA SIM to test later and will report here for sure...
Thanks...
kanagadeepan said:
Ditto for me, but I am using DroidMini... I also have DroidMAXX which is working great (even unlocked its BL and rooted it)...
I am also from India... Using it in GSM networks... I may get one Nano CDMA SIM to test later and will report here for sure...
Thanks...
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Well, we have interacted on Rimweb recently.
The radio on the Droid series is the same. The difference between the mini and the maxx in your case is that the mini has never been activated on VZ network and hence it is SIM locked. Whereas, the Maxx would have been purchased as a used item (perhaps just activated and then sold off?). So that takes care of the SIM unlock part.
Yesterday I spend around 60 minutes with global support, VZ.
I escalated the issue to the supervisor.
He checked and said that the IMEI is clean and not in any sort of negative list. So there is nothing else that they can do.
He also said, the phones are unlocked by default for global use.
Obviously they don't want to dig deeper into why three phones are not working on GSM in India.
I am now running out of avenues. Does anyone have some debugging tool which can log what is happening when the phone tries to log on to the network?
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Thanks Mark.
The phone Droid Maxx does support these bands since there are others who are using the same phone on GSM networks in the country.
The networks in India are:
2G capabilities GSM 900, GSM 1800
3G capabilities UMTS 2100
4G capabilities LTE 2300 (this one won't work with the phone, plus my carrier does not have it either)
The CDMA is CDMA 2000 - but I have not been able to try with a CDMA SIM, but that one has a higher probability of working.
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The current Droid Maxx that Verizon sells supports the following..
LTE Band 13/4 700/1700
EDGE/GSM: 850/900/1800/1900,
HSPA/UMTS: 850/900/1900/2100 (download speeds to 42.2 Mbps, upload speeds to 5.76 Mbps
From what you listed, the Maxx should get GSM/Edge/HSPA/UMTS coverage there. And of course, no LTE.
The CDMA side of the Verizon phones is still "locked" so I also would not expect CDMA to work. In other words, if your carrier NEEDS CDMA, stop trying.
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When I put a non-VZ SIM, and set to Global mode, it does not detect any signal and the search network does pretty much nothing. The automatic mode tries to connect but then throws an error saying "can't connect to this network at this time"
I am using a brand new nano SIM card (which now is back in my Moto Defy with an adapter.)
Earlier I had a normal SIM converted to a nano SIM and that one did not work, but after I put in APN manually, I was able to access data.
I tried another user's cut-nano SIM and that one worked for data out of the box (another GSM provider).
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I've been through this with some trying the Moto X in India, and I've been through it while trying my T-Mobile and ATT sim's in my Verizon Moto X.
From what you are describing, it sounds like your APN settings for your carrier on the phone are not set right.
Example... When I put my T-Mobile SIM into my Verizon Samsung Galaxy S4, I get "unknown sim" and bars, but no network connectivity. Nothing works. By going into the mobile network settings on the phone and adding an APN with the T-Mobile settings, features like calling, SMS, data, etc. start working. I have had occasions where I thought I had the APN right, as calls and data worked, but MMS only partially worked (would send but not receive). When I do have the settings right, everything works. Similar thing happens on my Moto X with T-Mobile SIM.
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s_u_n said:
Yesterday I spend around 60 minutes with global support, VZ.
I escalated the issue to the supervisor.
He checked and said that the IMEI is clean and not in any sort of negative list. So there is nothing else that they can do.
He also said, the phones are unlocked by default for global use.
Obviously they don't want to dig deeper into why three phones are not working on GSM in India.
I am now running out of avenues. Does anyone have some debugging tool which can log what is happening when the phone tries to log on to the network?
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Unless you have an active account with Verizon, and are trying to use their service when traveling, Verizon wont help you. In other words, unless you are trying to get your Verizon phone, working on Verizon's Global Roaming service, on your currently active Verizon account, they wont help you.
Even if you are a Verizon customer who is just traveling and popped out your VZW SIM in favor of using a local prepay sim to save data/voice costs, once you pop that VZW SIM out, they wont assist.
But you have received confirmation of what I said.. the GSM side is unlocked.
The SIM you are trying to use is from a GSM India carrier? As long as they only use GSM (no CDMA required), your only hope will be working with them. Telling them your phone is SIM Unlocked and going from there. Or finding a local message board for the carrier, and hope people are discussing use of "3rd party" phones, and you might get some help there.
I really think it will come down to the APN settings for the GSM carrier not being correct on the Maxx.
I can't offer any more than that. Sorry.
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The current Droid Maxx that Verizon sells supports the following..
LTE Band 13/4 700/1700
EDGE/GSM: 850/900/1800/1900,
HSPA/UMTS: 850/900/1900/2100 (download speeds to 42.2 Mbps, upload speeds to 5.76 Mbps
From what you listed, the Maxx should get GSM/Edge/HSPA/UMTS coverage there. And of course, no LTE.
The CDMA side of the Verizon phones is still "locked" so I also would not expect CDMA to work. In other words, if your carrier NEEDS CDMA, stop trying.
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I have now put in a CDMA SIM card, but run into another problem with that. I will activate that SIM on another phone and then pop it in the Maxx again and check. But CDMA should work fine as reported by other users.
But the problem is the GSM part, because that is what we need to get working.
Unless you have an active account with Verizon, and are trying to use their service when traveling, Verizon wont help you. In other words, unless you are trying to get your Verizon phone, working on Verizon's Global Roaming service, on your currently active Verizon account, they wont help you.
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That is bad on the part of Verizon. I have purchased a Verizon device off-contract and that device is a global one. So I am entitled to some support from them even if I am without a service plan.
The SIM you are trying to use is from a GSM India carrier? As long as they only use GSM (no CDMA required), your only hope will be working with them. Telling them your phone is SIM Unlocked and going from there. Or finding a local message board for the carrier, and hope people are discussing use of "3rd party" phones, and you might get some help there.
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Yes. Local carrier. And for now, there are three such XDA members who have been facing the same issue. In one case, a member was able to make calls and receive calls and also use data. Then after a few minutes, the SIM invalid message popped up.
I really think it will come down to the APN settings for the GSM carrier not being correct on the Maxx.
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APN settings are pretty easy. I did that with my earlier SIM and I got data working. There was no voice, so I gave that SIM back to the carrier and got a brand new nano SIM. Now, nothing works. The old and new SIM are for the same number and same service provider.
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s_u_n said:
APN settings are pretty easy. I did that with my earlier SIM and I got data working. There was no voice, so I gave that SIM back to the carrier and got a brand new nano SIM. Now, nothing works. The old and new SIM are for the same number and same service provider.
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Right, you got just DATA working with the APN settings, but the correct APN settings are also needed for SMS, MMS, Phone calls, etc.
I've had an issue where I had voice but no data, and it was related to APN. I've had an issue where I had voice, SMS, data but no MMS, again, it was related to APN settings for the carrier you are using.
So good luck!
the problem we sorted out to get gsm working in india first the phone must be activated on usa to get it work on india so can anyone help us > @s_u_n
So, after using the phone for a week on GSM with all application updates installed, I can safely state that
1. Verizon activation is not needed for non-VZ networks to work (at least outside US).
2. A full FXZ was installed and it probably solved the modem configuration mess that the phone might have been. Perhaps it unlocked something?
3. Four corner activation bypass method was used (as described in earlier Motorola phones).
Either 2 or 3 solved the problem
There was nothing to do with APN. Data works even without any APN settings out here, just like on my Motorola Defy.
Hi folks,
I live in a black hole of cellular signal. The only provider that has towers where I live is Verizon. I drive 45 minutes to work every day and over there both Verizon and AT&T have towers. I'm currently using a small, local carrier that uses Verizon towers and phones. I bought a Nexus 6 and want to activate it on straight talk. I thought I could use the IMEI from my existing phone, since it's a Verizon phone, but they say it's not compatible. They say they can activate it as a GSM phone, but I've read that if I activate it as a GSM device, it will not connect to Verizon towers so would basically be useless where I live. However, that doesn't really make sense to me since the Nexus 6 has both CDMA and GSM radios in it.
Does anyone know if I activate a GSM sim and pop it in my Nexus 6 if it will connect to Verizon towers? We do have LTE here, if that makes a difference Thanks for any help you can provide!.
Verizon network will only use CDMA but you could still use it in roaming
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Verizon network will only use CDMA but you could still use it in roaming
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Will it roam on cdma if i activate it as gsm though?
I am in Canada on Rogers/Fido network. I bought a Sprint note 5, it works OK in my house but loses signals at various other locations. is there any way this could be fixed?
Short answer: nope.
Longer answer: You probably already know that the N920P supports only some of the LTE bands in use in Canada, specifically for Fido/Rogers it's only one of them. In practice, having used both an N920P and a N920W8 on Fido, while the W8 shows a way better signal most of the time, when the cell is congested it doesn't really feel any different. I don't know why this is exactly, but as an example - on the train platforms in Union Station, the Sprint phone would show no connection/poor connection and the Canadian phone would show a good connection. On either phone, transfer speeds are reduced to a trickle.
P.S. if you don't already have it, Package Disabler Pro can get rid of the stupid Sprint activation screen every time you power cycle the phone
I currently have a z flip 4 with us cellular and a pixel 6 pro on Verizon, I want to use my Verizon and us cellular number on the z flip 4, kinda like dual sim but the Verizon one as my eim but I keep running into roadblocks, Verizon says it can't be done without closing off my account and us cellular does the same anyone figure out how to get past this?
I am with US Mobile. ( Verizon's MVNO ) I activate my number with eSim with them to get up and running quickly. Then I am able to switch to the real SIM after I receive new SIM order. My guess doing reverse should be the same with US Mobile. I am not sure why Verizon not able to do this without closing account.
On tmobile they set me up to esim, no issue. VERIZON may not be fully supporting esim on androids yet, I had Spectrum which uses Verizon, and they could not set up my esim.
I was on Verizon since cell phones were invented (postpaid, prepaid, mvno), their service and coverage has gone way down hill, now I get 5g where I couldn't even get reception before. So much for keeping a loyal customer happy.
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On tmobile they set me up to esim, no issue. VERIZON may not be fully supporting esim on androids yet, I had Spectrum which uses Verizon, and they could not set up my esim.
I was on Verizon since cell phones were invented (postpaid, prepaid, mvno), their service and coverage has gone way down hill, now I get 5g where I couldn't even get reception before. So much for keeping a loyal customer happy.
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I've had issues with us cellular using an esim too because they want the physical sim to be the main sim card which I think is rediculous, and Verizon just keep giving me road blocks to getting the number ported