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Need some input on Shield Tablet

I was looking at the Shield Tablet for the following purposes:
1. Watching anime via MX Player
2. Reading light novels
3. general note taking via bluetooth keyboard
Would it be okay for these things?

Yes.

I have done all except use a BT keyboard. I do use BT earbuds and have no trouble.

How is the battery life on the shield tablet?

zxd3 said:
How is the battery life on the shield tablet?
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If you are only going to be using it for those things the battery life will be great. This is the best tablet on the market right now.
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ShrekOpher said:
If you are only going to be using it for those things the battery life will be great. This is the best tablet on the market right now.
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Does the shield tablet only have bad battery life if you are using gamestream? or are there other things that would kill its battery life?

zxd3 said:
Does the shield tablet only have bad battery life if you are using gamestream? or are there other things that would kill its battery life?
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Graphic intensive games and apps deplete the battery at a fast rate. Also, it gets heated up quite easily.

asim.sidz said:
Graphic intensive games and apps deplete the battery at a fast rate. Also, it gets heated up quite easily.
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The battery does die quickly when you are playing some of the more graphical games, or even poorly optimized non graphical games.. But I have not had the tablet get anywhere near hot on me, even after playing it in console mode hooked to a big screen and then pulling it off and playing it for another hour or so it has not gotten hot on me. Granted I am comparing this to every other device I have owned which is quite a few... This one actually stays the coolest out of any I have used at this point since we went to quad core.

whoamanwtf said:
The battery does die quickly when you are playing some of the more graphical games, or even poorly optimized non graphical games.. But I have not had the tablet get anywhere near hot on me, even after playing it in console mode hooked to a big screen and then pulling it off and playing it for another hour or so it has not gotten hot on me. Granted I am comparing this to every other device I have owned which is quite a few... This one actually stays the coolest out of any I have used at this point since we went to quad core.
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I have tried the tegra 4 exclusive games and it does get hot for me. Try Half-life 2, Trine 2, Horn or Portal and see the device getting pushed to its limits within minutes.

asim.sidz said:
I have tried the tegra 4 exclusive games and it does get hot for me. Try Half-life 2, Trine 2, Horn or Portal and see the device getting pushed to its limits within minutes.
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I have Trine 2 and Portal and played them quite a bit with no heat issues..

Could this issue be kernel specific? Or did Nvidia make different batches of slightly different hardware that we are not aware of? I'm unable to find a reason to this.

How's reading texts on this device? Like is the screen too small to pay attention to consistently? I plan on reading pdf textbooks to be specific, I'm really leaning towards this device against the Nexus 9 but not 100% sure yet as the screen might be too small.

MetTrax said:
How's reading texts on this device? Like is the screen too small to pay attention to consistently? I plan on reading pdf textbooks to be specific, I'm really leaning towards this device against the Nexus 9 but not 100% sure yet as the screen might be too small.
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Its great for reading. I'm coming from 720p devices. Compared to the 2012 N7 and original Note 10.1 its much sharper. Comfortable weight for reading too.

Battery (screen time)

I have never used a 3k mAh battery(phone) before and now that i have i cant really see a big change here are the stats
1. 20% battery after 10 hours.
2. Screen time 5 hours.
3.call time 40 mins
4. I am connected to wifi all day so whenever my screen is on its either i am surfing net or using any other internet apps
5. No game played
These are the status for today (usually same other days too)
If anyone of u can take out some time to reply abt if ur guys are getting the same or almost same charge time or is it only me

Mine screem time always exceeds 6.30hrs and i play games

Between 5-6 hrs of screen-on time on all-day wifi, 20-30 mins of 2G calls, an hour of gaming, an hour of YouTube or music, and the rest of the time wasted on social networking & other apps, and in taking a LOT of photos.
There have been days where i've seen 7 hrs of SOT, but that was when the phone wasn't loaded with as many apps as it is now. Now its mostly around 5 hours on moderately heavy usage and just over 6 on days when i only text & browse the web.
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stivinnaura said:
Between 5-6 hrs of screen-on time on all-day wifi, 20-30 mins of 2G calls, an hour of gaming, an hour of YouTube or music, and the rest of the time wasted on social networking & other apps, and in taking a LOT of photos.
There have been days where i've seen 7 hrs of SOT, but that was when the phone wasn't loaded with as many apps as it is now. Now its mostly around 5 hours on moderately heavy usage and just over 6 on days when i only text & browse the web.
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Lol, its like we have identically usuage of phone

ruffain said:
I have never used a 3k mAh battery(phone) before and now that i have i cant really see a big change here are the stats
1. 20% battery after 10 hours.
2. Screen time 5 hours.
3.call time 40 mins
4. I am connected to wifi all day so whenever my screen is on its either i am surfing net or using any other internet apps
5. No game played
These are the status for today (usually same other days too)
If anyone of u can take out some time to reply abt if ur guys are getting the same or almost same charge time or is it only me
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1.5 Days with full charge...

prasad12ka4 said:
1.5 Days with full charge...
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Damn. But what kinda usage

ruffain said:
Damn. But what kinda usage
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Basic usage..
Calls, whats app, mails,....

Managed 7 hours screen on time with moderate usage.
- Mostly browsing on Wi-Fi
- Took over 80 photos
- 50 mins of calls on 2G
- All day Wi-Fi except while sleeping
This is just after the 6.5.5.0 update.
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stivinnaura said:
Yes i did notice really great difference in the screen time dont know if it was just me it did actually changed after the update
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ruffain said:
stivinnaura said:
Yes i did notice really great difference in the screen time dont know if it was just me it did actually changed after the update
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Stats refer to pic were
1.5 hour youtube
1 hour call
Wifi almost all the time
Screen time was more then 6 hours
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Battery usage- not effective
Dear friends,
I hear you all talking about battery usage, and i am wondering if anything is wrong with my phone.... who knows... but i would like to report that, yes , indeed the screen time is reaching the 5 hours but the battery has been reduced from 90% to 15% and only using facebook and videos and the music player!!!! OMG!!!! I Mean OMG!!!
Where did you came up with 5 hours with youtube plus gaming plus facebook plus talking plus plus ????
To my humble belief the battery needs to save more energy. !!!! At the moment i dont have any tool to monitor if all 8 processors are runnning at the same time, but i am pretty sure that they do run together for everything! BUT actually they dont need to run !!! Especially when the phone is used only for facebook webrowsing and all these applications.!!!!!
all cores must be triggered and be fully working when you are using high end graphic games and stuff! Why all this battery is running for such small applications @???@@@@!!!!!?????????
I am not sure if anyone knows any solution on how to deactivate all these cores, but if there is swomebody i would appreciate it if he really did as it is a pitty all this battery to go wasted JUST AND ONLY FOR the purpose of just alll 8 cores running at the same time WITHOUT ANY LOGICAL REASON!!!!
This phone has amazing poetntials!!!! AMAZING POTENTIALS if it to be reprogrammed and debloated by developers such as yourselfs!! If i knew how i would immediatelly start searching for a solution to all these issues!!! There are much more issues than that and for this phone specs the capabilities are being wasted!!! It needs to be debloated and may other things that will enable this phone to become a big GADGET in the market as a low cost and proper phone that it its!
Please for your replies
All the best
Bill

I have left this phone on overnight for 7 hours with WiFi and 4G connections, starting with 100% charge. Periodically my phone would have been checking for new podcasts but other than that it wasn't doing anything.
On my Moto G 4G, the battery dropped from 100 to 93%.
On the Mi 4i it only dropped to 97%, which could be the much larger battery, but it might also be the CPU returning quickly to a deep sleep state as it can finish tasks quicker.
In day to day usage I haven't found it hugely better in terms of battery life but I think that's because the screen is a lot larger and also has far more pixels which places a greater requirement on the GPU.
I use the GSam Battery Monitor app and have attached a screenshot from this as well as from the MiUi6/Android graph.

vrtsvas said:
Dear friends,
I hear you all talking about battery usage, and i am wondering if anything is wrong with my phone.... who knows... but i would like to report that, yes , indeed the screen time is reaching the 5 hours but the battery has been reduced from 90% to 15% and only using facebook and videos and the music player!!!! OMG!!!! I Mean OMG!!!
Where did you came up with 5 hours with youtube plus gaming plus facebook plus talking plus plus ????
To my humble belief the battery needs to save more energy. !!!! At the moment i dont have any tool to monitor if all 8 processors are runnning at the same time, but i am pretty sure that they do run together for everything! BUT actually they dont need to run !!! Especially when the phone is used only for facebook webrowsing and all these applications.!!!!!
all cores must be triggered and be fully working when you are using high end graphic games and stuff! Why all this battery is running for such small applications @???@@@@!!!!!?????????
I am not sure if anyone knows any solution on how to deactivate all these cores, but if there is swomebody i would appreciate it if he really did as it is a pitty all this battery to go wasted JUST AND ONLY FOR the purpose of just alll 8 cores running at the same time WITHOUT ANY LOGICAL REASON!!!!
This phone has amazing poetntials!!!! AMAZING POTENTIALS if it to be reprogrammed and debloated by developers such as yourselfs!! If i knew how i would immediatelly start searching for a solution to all these issues!!! There are much more issues than that and for this phone specs the capabilities are being wasted!!! It needs to be debloated and may other things that will enable this phone to become a big GADGET in the market as a low cost and proper phone that it its!
Please for your replies
All the best
Bill
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If you have heard of overclocking and underclocking nywas yes u can tweak processor u need to root our phone for that there are lot of apps for that I don't remember the names rights now.
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Hi thanks
ruffain said:
If you have heard of overclocking and underclocking nywas yes u can tweak processor u need to root our phone for that there are lot of apps for that I don't remember the names rights now.
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Hi,
Wouldn't it be much more nicer though the fact of developing a new rom that the user will be able to do all these stuff ( i mean overclocking/underclocking, play with colors saturation and setting as well as eliminating all the process that prevent the phone from keeping the battery for 2 days! (that is even with wi fi use!)
Cause if you think about it , we are not far from previous low end generation phone that the used single core and much more less characteristics in order to run the exact same application on the same level, but in a lower graphics environment. Also look at samsung note 4 hibernation mode, that would be a development for this phone as well and keep the phone lasting for 30 days!
From one point of view we are talking with an open world of software, why not having these abilities why do we have to waste drain battery with no reason what so ever. ???
I think you know what short of improvements i am talking about and these would be accompanied perfectly with this phone specs.
what do you think guys?
i want your point of view, maybe i am not saying everything correctly.
Thanks

vrtsvas said:
Hi,
Wouldn't it be much more nicer though the fact of developing a new rom that the user will be able to do all these stuff ( i mean overclocking/underclocking, play with colors saturation and setting as well as eliminating all the process that prevent the phone from keeping the battery for 2 days! (that is even with wi fi use!)
Cause if you think about it , we are not far from previous low end generation phone that the used single core and much more less characteristics in order to run the exact same application on the same level, but in a lower graphics environment. Also look at samsung note 4 hibernation mode, that would be a development for this phone as well and keep the phone lasting for 30 days!
From one point of view we are talking with an open world of software, why not having these abilities why do we have to waste drain battery with no reason what so ever. ???
I think you know what short of improvements i am talking about and these would be accompanied perfectly with this phone specs.
what do you think guys?
i want your point of view, maybe i am not saying everything correctly.
Thanks
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Yes that would be nice and I guess ASOP roms have all those features wat you are asking about. A new rom would be nice but miui keeps on fixes minor bugs I don't think mi would provide us that rom in near future and noone really likes to wait so everyone roots their phone and tweaks it xposed framework is one of the best thing after rooting
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ruffain said:
Yes that would be nice and I guess ASOP roms have all those features wat you are asking about. A new rom would be nice but miui keeps on fixes minor bugs I don't think mi would provide us that rom in near future and noone really likes to wait so everyone roots their phone and tweaks it xposed framework is one of the best thing after rooting
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i have rooted my mi 4i but i cannot adjust only using two out of the eight cores for everything in order to achieve battery reduction.... there is non such application neither kernel development of any short hat allows you to change the kernel setting to how-many number of cores you would like.
But if you know any other way i would be most happy to hear about it my friend.

@vrtsvas
on what version ROM are you?

hi there
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@vrtsvas
on what version ROM are you?
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i am on
android version : 5.0.2. lrx22g
miui version 6.5.6.0 (lximicd) stable
why are you asking this though? how does this relates to the core programming and usage, do you know any software to downclock and use only two cores only? that would be the benefit to the story,

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i am on
android version : 5.0.2. lrx22g
miui version 6.5.6.0 (lximicd) stable
why are you asking this though? how does this relates to the core programming and usage, do you know any software to downclock and use only two cores only? that would be the benefit to the story,
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Well coz Dev ROM sucks the battery so I thought that might ur case yes u can under clock the processor and ur devices must be rooted for it since the kernel source is out I guess we shd wait for a new ROM i am sure someone would include that feature in the ROM
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If someone have root can use "Tweaks For Mi 4i . Fast Charge, No Lagging, Fix issues. For Any ROM" thread from en.miui page to get more standby. I used Tweak your cpu. Phone was coller and by night it used about 3%. Now on V7 I'm not sure it works but that ROM got a lot wakelocks from enything. By night it used 5%.

[Q] Ram management issue on the s6 causes lag?

Hey guys I am sorry if this question is asked again, but does the ram management issue on the s6 cause lag in day to day usage or it just deters the multitasking performance? Gonna buy the s6 tomorrow, and Im damn excited

albysajan said:
Hey guys I am sorry if this question is asked again, but does the ram management issue on the s6 cause lag in day to day usage or it just deters the multitasking performance? Gonna buy the s6 tomorrow, and Im damn excited
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It will mean if you use the back key to come out of apps, sometimes they will reload, such as phone and messaging etc, but only usually games will be closed regularly and aggressively. General lag isn't a problem, just a slight delay loading aps back into memory once they've closed.
I find if I back out of apps using the home key this problem is reduced.

Jonathan-H said:
It will mean if you use the back key to come out of apps, sometimes they will reload, such as phone and messaging etc, but only usually games will be closed regularly and aggressively. General lag isn't a problem, just a slight delay loading aps back into memory once they've closed.
I find if I back out of apps using the home key this problem is reduced.
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How about scrolling through apps such as chrome ,Facebook ,play store. Does this issue cause any lag?

I've never really experience any huge lag. I turn off my device once in 2 days so maybe that helps.

albysajan said:
Hey guys I am sorry if this question is asked again, but does the ram management issue on the s6 cause lag in day to day usage or it just deters the multitasking performance? Gonna buy the s6 tomorrow, and Im damn excited
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90% of users won't even notice the memory management "issue". Only hardcore multitaskers will. The "issue" is the S6 kicks apps out of cache very quickly so whenever you tap the multitask button, the app relaunches/redraws instead of resuming from a hibernated state. There is a little lag (~0.5 second), but it is not a dealbreaker that would prevent you from enjoying the phone.
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How about scrolling through apps such as chrome ,Facebook ,play store. Does this issue cause any lag?
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Chrome lags on every device I have owned, including the S6. Any app that uses Android WebView will lag.
I don't use facebook, so I can't speak for that app.
No Play store lag on my S6.

sublimaze said:
90% of users won't even notice the memory management "issue". Only hardcore multitaskers will. The "issue" is the S6 kicks apps out of cache very quickly so whenever you tap the multitask button, the app relaunches/redraws instead of resuming from a hibernated state. There is a little lag (~0.5 second), but it is not a dealbreaker that would prevent you from enjoying the phone.
Chrome lags on every device I have owned, including the S6. Any app that uses Android WebView will lag.
I don't use facebook, so I can't speak for that app.
No Play store lag on my S6.
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Well that cleared all of my doubts

albysajan said:
Well that cleared all of my doubts
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Really, I did'nt notice the problem with multitasking (because the S6 is so fast) before I read about it here.
Also, all the **** you hear about the battery life is not true. Of course, it's not the best out there (only 2550mah, so of course not) but it easily get you through the day (normal usage) and at least into another. The battery have gotten way better with a few updates (it was damn bad at the start) and might get even better when 5.1 hits in a few weeks.
Just turn of basic stuff, that noone uses anyway (almost) like, location history, wifi always scanning and such.

Faspaiso said:
Really, I did'nt notice the problem with multitasking (because the S6 is so fast) before I read about it here.
Also, all the **** you hear about the battery life is not true. Of course, it's not the best out there (only 2550mah, so of course not) but it easily get you through the day (normal usage) and at least into another. The battery have gotten way better with a few updates (it was damn bad at the start) and might get even better when 5.1 hits in a few weeks.
Just turn of basic stuff, that noone uses anyway (almost) like, location history, wifi always scanning and such.
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Glad to hear that, by the way 5.1 just came out recently and its showing mixed reactions among the users. Some people says that the battery life has improved a lot after the update and some just says its the same.

albysajan said:
Glad to hear that, by the way 5.1 just came out recently and its showing mixed reactions among the users. Some people says that the battery life has improved a lot after the update and some just says its the same.
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No, it's not out yet. At least not for the international version. Some users think, that the reason only one carrier got it yet, is because it is a "test" version. Not sure tho.
But well, as said, only out for one carrier for over a week now.

Faspaiso said:
Also, all the **** you hear about the battery life is not true. Of course, it's not the best out there (only 2550mah, so of course not) but it easily get you through the day (normal usage) and at least into another. The battery have gotten way better with a few updates (it was damn bad at the start) and might get even better when 5.1 hits in a few weeks.
Just turn of basic stuff, that noone uses anyway (almost) like, location history, wifi always scanning and such.
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Yeah the battery life is overblown. It is no worse than any other phone with <2500 mAh battery. Anyone coming from a 3000+ mAh battery will be disappointed, but anyone that is used to plugging in every day won't know any different.
If you are rooted, I also recommend App Ops to manage permissions and save more battery :good:

Check Force gpu rendering and no lag. As far as it regards multitasking it sucks.
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How is the 7.0 upgrade overall compared to the XZ on Android 6?

Can anyone list the bugs they've found since updating to 7.0 from MM? Also, how is battery life and overall speed/smoothness compared to MM? I can't find any definitive info on this and as I'm happy with MM I'm loathe to upgrade but know that the update will auto-install one of these days.

better battery (at least on data for me )
smootheness is a bit better
and the ram management is hell better than before...
camera i belive is same
boot time a bit better

Totally agree with that adding the camera is enough good for my expectations (im not trying to win a photo competition) and it works even better in low light than 6.0 (just an impression)... Otg is workin very good...
Bugs? Need more testing time none by now?
The lack of mhl or any other video out alternative is killing me badly. Very dissapointed
No fm support by now also.

So it's just as fast and smooth?
No bluetooth/Wifi/signal issues?
No lag or freezing? Thanks guys.

sunking101 said:
So it's just as fast and smooth?
No bluetooth/Wifi/signal issues?
No lag or freezing? Thanks guys.
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im using bluetooth so much with my sony sbh80.. no problems
and signal? all my internet is based on cell internet and nope... everything is ok
wifi i dont use alot... unless im at home but its good and no problems
its fast and smooth

Can somebody confirm that the vulkan api its active în games? Its any difference now în gaming??

The battery is vastly improved. Albeit, I only updated this morning. But I have 3.5hours of SoT and I'm still at 50%
Did about 30mins of calling today and lots of emails/texting and chrome and playing around with split screen

Not noticed the battery but the swipe from the top works different
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Andybrad said:
Not noticed the battery but the swipe from the top works different
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Right, new swipe from top shortcuts needs two pushes to activate instead 6.0 single tap to enable style. Don`t like too much but works ok

If you just pull down the a row of icons, that's still tap to activate or deactivate.

ram management issue

So i have 8/256 zenfone on last android 10 update but multitasking on this phone behave strange random apps are getting killed in the background even if I use idk 50 % of ram and by night most of the apps are gone from memory.
https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discussion/comment/37973#Comment_37973 now some assus boy is trying to say that this is fine but no it is not -.- iam wondering if iam missing some option to turn off or any of you have some similar issues? Maybe iam missing some power saving option to turn off but i think i turn off all of them by now? :crying::cyclops:

Yes, by default this phone has fairly aggressive memory management. Most of the settings you'll want to adjust are under Settings - Battery - Powermaster - Battery Saving Options. You might also want to have a look under Settings - Advanced - Optiflex.

Devhux said:
Yes, by default this phone has fairly aggressive memory management. Most of the settings you'll want to adjust are under Settings - Battery - Powermaster - Battery Saving Options. You might also want to have a look under Settings - Advanced - Optiflex.
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Think I check them all already but today have the same situation still. I even do the format yesterday and for half of the day, phone keep 24 apps in memory without reloading and overnight on charger phone just clean its memory and leave me to 3 apps open so it cleans 21 apps -.- 'm on the edge of returning it i pay 25 % more for 8 GB and my phone is pretending to be 1 GB device sometimes...

berni502 said:
Think I check them all already but today have the same situation still I even do the format yesterday and for half of the day, phone keep 24 apps in memory without reloading and overnight on charger phone just clean its memory and leave me to 3 apps open so it cleans 21 apps -.- 'm on the edge of returning it i pay 25 % more for 8 GB and my phone is pretending to be 1 GB device sometimes...
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That's called battery savings...

EMJI79 said:
That's called battery savings...
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I don't need that and don't need anybody force me to save my battery lol And we have profiles for battery savings x; ) besides that this is my first android phone doing that... Even my older phones from Xiaomi and Xiaomi is widely known for aggressive ram management never went full retard on cleaning almost all my apps. :silly:
And why on earth it decides to save battery when its plugged to charger xD.

@berni502 is right. There's a bug with LMK or something. You can use RAM memory filler to test how much ram can be allocated to an app (and it gets killed at 5GB instead of 7GB on Pie). Since then everything gets killed even though there's about 4.5GB free, SystemUI included. Reboot fixes the problem. I think I'll open a new discussion there.

aleksander002 said:
@berni502 is right. There's a bug with LMK or something. You can use RAM memory filler to test how much ram can be allocated to an app (and it gets killed at 5GB instead of 7GB on Pie). Since then everything gets killed even though there's about 4.5GB free, SystemUI included. Reboot fixes the problem. I think I'll open a new discussion there.
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Pls do it! I feel like I am only one in there who cares : ( it seems that killing apps overnight and a way too aggressive ram management starts on android from android 9 there is a lot of ppl writing about it on pixel,oneplus and samsung forums but on asus is it just me : /.
I even find this site but think op resolve problem already because i have op 7t for +/- 3 days and it just works fine no even single app missing form ram overnight.
https://dontkillmyapp.com
I actually can semi confirm your observation about ram after reboots. Yesterday on clean install android 9 multitasking gets huge temporary improvement ram can get as low as 1,5 gb ram or even less but after a day 1 + unwanted ram clear overnight and my restart after this phone struggle to pass 2,8GB free memory it can handle way fewer apps in memory and start reloads them sooner.
First day on android 9 downgrade
VS
Second day
It can be fixed oneplus show it but they won't fix it if I am the only one who is barking about it on their forum.
BTW does your app getting wipe out from memory overnight? I mean from 20 + app get something between 3-9 in the morning and if not can you describe what exactly do you turn on or off in your system or you just don't touch anything?

Well, I'm not that hard multitasker. Of course I have some background services enabled but it's far from having 20 apps running at the same time. Regardless, after a week or so without reboot some issues become more apparent and LMK seems to be very aggressive even though there are 3 GB left (not even buffered).

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Well, I'm not that hard multitasker. Of course I have some background services enabled but it's far from having 20 apps running at the same time. Regardless, after a week or so without reboot some issues become more apparent and LMK seems to be very aggressive even though there are 3 GB left (not even buffered).
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can you try to bump your apps for the night and tell me how many of them you will see in recents in the morning
These issues are there from freaking July but they just don't care or idk
https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discussion/7078/ram-management-and-heating-issue

berni502 said:
can you try to bump your apps for the night and tell me how many of them you will see in recents in the morning
These issues are there from freaking July but they just don't care or idk
https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discussion/7078/ram-management-and-heating-issue
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I must confirm that you are not alone. I did it exactly as you described in one of your posts. Before going to bed I opened 24 applications, then I went through them all once again that they are really all loaded in memory (I have 6 GB of memory). When I woke up in the morning and pressed the multitask button, I was surprised to find that out of the 24 applications, there were exactly 3 left, as you have repeatedly claimed.
I stared at it open-mouthed. In fact, I've never done this check because the phone is fast enough that I just didn't recognize in the morning ((still sleepy) that applications were loading from Flash Memory instead of RAM.
This check is really simple, anyone can do it, but apparently not many users have done it yet.
Next time I would like to try to find out which applications actually stayed, whether the last used ones or completely random ones, and what processes took place at night that might be blame.

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I must confirm that you are not alone. I did it exactly as you described in one of your posts. Before going to bed I opened 24 applications, then I went through them all once again that they are really all loaded in memory (I have 6 GB of memory). When I woke up in the morning and pressed the multitask button, I was surprised to find that out of the 24 applications, there were exactly 3 left, as you have repeatedly claimed.
I stared at it open-mouthed. In fact, I've never done this check because the phone is fast enough that I just didn't recognize in the morning ((still sleepy) that applications were loading from Flash Memory instead of RAM.
This check is really simple, anyone can do it, but apparently not many users have done it yet.
Next time I would like to try to find out which applications actually stayed, whether the last used ones or completely random ones, and what processes took place at night that might be blame.
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I am really tired now of talking to the Asus boys on their forum its is like talking to the wall. Now i get info from them that this is a normal android 10 case but don't believe in this... I use logcat app for 2 nights but I am not that smart to figure out what and where its happening am trying but I think it will be better to return this phone while i still can... : / in the end like i said i pay almost 100$ more for 8gb to have those extra multitasking abilities but they are ripped off form the phone.
From my observation apps stayed in ram can be different. It sad because that ram issue was reported in July on their forum now i don't have any hope in asus work on fixing this problem.
use ram truth or some app to monitor ram and you see some another strange thing even that after night you stay with 3 apps open your ram will be almost full. For me, it was today about 700 mb difference after overnight app kill.

Have you guys tried the same exercise of opening 24 apps and checked them back at morning with other phones?. I'm no expert, but it is my understanding that apart from the LMK that kills apps if memory is needed there is also a time killer i.e. if an app is not used after X amount of time it is killed from memory, so what you see is normal Android behavior.

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Have you guys tried the same exercise of opening 24 apps and checked them back at morning with other phones?. I'm no expert, but it is my understanding that apart from the LMK that kills apps if memory is needed there is also a time killer i.e. if an app is not used after X amount of time it is killed from memory, so what you see is normal Android behavior.
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Like i said before i have oneplus 7t on android 10 for 3 days and it not clean my apps overnight but I am trying to collect some more info about pixel and oneplus now. I have multiple phones on android form 2.1 i believe xD oneplus 3 can keep my apps in memory for a week or longer

berni502 said:
oneplus 3 can keep my apps in memory for a week or longer
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Which Android version?
I haven't had a reason to deal with this issue yet, but after a while searching, I'm starting to feel that this is a feature of Android 9 and 10 that users of various brands complain about:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/note-9-closes-recent-apps-overnight-t3976779
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/apps-running-in-background-get-closed-refreshed.735964/
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/978fck/anyone_else_having_issues_with_be_pie/
And they nostalgically recall Oreo where these problems were not.

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Which Android version?
I haven't had a reason to deal with this issue yet, but after a while searching, I'm starting to feel that this is a feature of Android 9 and 10 that users of various brands complain about:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/note-9-closes-recent-apps-overnight-t3976779
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/apps-running-in-background-get-closed-refreshed.735964/
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/978fck/anyone_else_having_issues_with_be_pie/
And they nostalgically recall Oreo where these problems were not.
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i don't even remember on what android it was
like I said I am trying to collect some information because i had no problems with one plus 7t on android 10 when i have it for 3 days.
here you have links to my threads because most of your info links are pretty outdated
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-4-xl/help/apps-killing-overnight-t4032207#post81434337
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7t/help/apps-killing-overnight-t4032153#post81433005
Even if android 10 works like that so what? xD they modified many apps in zenfone system and change many options and not implement many aswell so what's wrong with fixing something that clearly works bad and it is no fitted at all for devices with 6,8 gb of ram and more(not even 4 i will still be mad it this happened to me on 4 gb xD)... hmmm, now I'm curious how it works on rog phone 2 this beast have like what 12 gb of ram ? Imagine that you have 12 gb of ram and your apps still getting killed overnight xD i'am to tired to ask about it on rog 2 forum maybe you can.

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most of your info links are pretty outdated
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On the contrary, it is important that the links are older, because it only proves that this problem has been around for a long time (at least from A9) and in addition to different brands. The first link is from October 2019, which I would consider as current enough.

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On the contrary, it is important that the lines are older, because it only proves that this problem has been around for a long time (at least from A9) and in addition to different brands. The first link is from October 2019, which I would consider as current enough.
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yes but they are speaking about anbdroid 9 and they even find some semi solution of that in there(that restart one it shows how bugged it was) ; ) we don't know how it is on samsung android 10 now.
On pixel 4 seems to be ok without any issue and i can't find any no outdated info about oneplus so i just assume that there is no longer a killing app problemo + i have one fr 3 days.
Even minus app killing overnight ram management on asus it's just strange at the moment I am reopening one app that should be easy in memory because i have like 3gb of free ram left but nope it's gone -.-.

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we don't know how it is on samsung android 10 now.
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I'll check Samsung Galaxy S10 with A10 tomorrow maybe.

Question is, why would you want an app that you have not used for X hours to stay in memory? All apps that need to run in the background use a service for that purpose. The rest gets killed as they should because either another app needs the memory or because is haven't been used in a long time. To my knowledge Android has been like that for ever (as opposed to windows for example, where you can completely stall without memory unless you manually kill things).

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Question is, why would you want an app that you have not used for X hours to stay in memory? All apps that need to run in the background use a service for that purpose. The rest gets killed as they should because either another app needs the memory or because is haven't been used in a long time. To my knowledge Android has been like that for ever (as opposed to windows for example, where you can completely stall without memory unless you manually kill things).
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And why do i want all of them gone overnight when I am connected to charger ? Solution is easy if you wanna save your battery you have power profiles for that so you can and if you don't wanna do that you should still be able to but you cant... and there is matter of price why do i pay so much for so powerfull device when iam force to not use its hardware to full of its capabilities. You are right about android ram menagment but that i wanna kill your all apps start on android 9 apparently. There is nothing bad with cleaning some space when you need that for new apps but killing it all or killing it when you have half of ram empty its just stupid...
you can read some more in here maybe https://dontkillmyapp.com
and imagine i have 8 gb of ram that rog phone 2 can have even 12 and 6k battery if they have same problems lol its is like buying a sports hybrid car with turbo v8 engine and be forced to use only that electric motor because of fuel savings ^^