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Hi, Im very interested in one of these sunno phones, there are 3 models, 1 of them is a cheap copy that I wont buy. The other ones are originals from sunno factory, witch one would you choose? please let me know why
There are 3 kind of s880, (please tell us about them if you have any of them)
The great one:
CPU: Marvell PXA310(1GHZ)
Look at the back camera(thats the diference)
Main 5mpx cam,
No android os
Just wm6.5
Where to buy?: www china-mobile-phone com
PICS:
N/A I have links restriction
The second most powerfull:
CPU: Unknown 806MHZ processor 256RAM
Diferent back camera, 8mpx
DUAL BOOT OS Android and WM6.5
Where to buy?: Anywhere, the most common one
PICS: N/A I have links restriction
The third, "the cheap one":
CPU: Hisilicon K3 460Mhz
8Mpx camera
WM6.5 and Android
Where to buy?: This one seems to be a cheap copy, so be aware. If you find that back camera in a s880, thats a cheap copy.
PICS: N/A I have links restriction
I will add photos to this post when my links restriction is gone
Please, give me your opinion about witch one should I buy, and why
thanks!
Hi Mhz250,
I've been delivered the model you describe as "The Great One", i.e. with 1GHz processor (at least, that's what it reports) and NOT dual boot.
I can't tell you which one to buy as I'm not familiar with the others, but below are some of my impressions. As a disclaimer, the model I'd ordered was meant to be the dual boot one, so I'm a bit disgruntled, and also this is my first smart phone, so I don't have anything to compare it to with regards performance. However I do have an Ipod touch so I'm familiar with capacitive screens.
Build Quality:
The body feels reasonably solid. There's a bit of a plastic squeek when you squeeze if from the sides but otherwise there's a nice weight to it. The battery cover is metal and again feels solid.
The buttons below the screen and the two volume buttons on the side feel robust, but the cover for the memory card slot is a loose friction fit, and the small power button feels like it might eventually fall out.
Screen quality:
Brightness:
It doesn't seem as bright as my Ipod touch, even with the lightness up full. I've not tried to use it outdoors on a sunny day (I'm avoiding using it until I've my support query on sorting the dual-os settled) but for indoor use it has been fine.
Touch:
I'm using a screen protector that I ordered with the phone, which might have an effect on the responsiveness. It is a resistive screen rather than capacitive: sometimes a light touch is sufficient to get a response, other times you've got to press firmly. I'd characterise the difference like this:
- with a capacitive screen you can lightly "swoosh" with the pad of a finger to scroll
- with the S880, I find I either have to drag with the pad of my finger to scroll, or else use the tip of my finger/nail.
- in general, I find I've to re-enter my taps etc to get a response some of the time, other times it works fine.
- also bear in mind that you will not have multi-touch (pinch-to-zoom), which makes browsing less convenient.
OS:
In my opinion Windows mobile 6.5 is not very nice to use without a stylus: the settings menus and the keyboard are rather small and, although not impossible to use with the tip of your finger, it's still quite easy to select the wrong item. Note that the S880 doesn't come with one of those built-in stylus slots (or even a stylus). Installing FingerKeyboard helps with the keyboard issue, but doesn't help with the small menus.
The lack of an "alt-tab" built in to the OS to switch between running apps is a pain. Perhaps due to my unfamiliarity with the OS, I keep finding myself back at the home screen and have to re-navigate to the application (sometimes via task manager).
I downloaded a trial of SPB Mobile shell and that helps to make the screen feel more responsive. That's all very well while you're in the SPB shell (navigation) but when you finally arrive at the app, you're back in the Win6.5 world . It also adds an extra $30 to the factor into the cost, but if I cannot get the dual-os issue resolved, I'd personally go for this (and, before anyone asks, no, I'm not affiliated with SPB)
So, although this shouldn't be a review of the OS, in terms of selecting which S880 model to go for, all else being equal I'd lean towards the dual boot in order to be able to use Android. (I'm sure there are threads arguing over which OS is better, I don't mean to kick of any such debate here).
Conclusions
This is an admittedly selective review: for me, the two dominant factors are the resistive screen and the Windows interface, neither of which I particularly like, and I don't think they compliment each other.
I hope this helps!
Hi itburns!
thanks very much for such a great personal opinion! Could you test the camera for me? I really would like to know if it can take pictures at night, what's the pictures quality, real MPX of the camera.
Could you also please tell us your opinion about the speed of the phone? try to use a couple of apps at the same time and see what happends. Or a 3d game if you can!
Thanks again
Thanks for a good review! Its always nice to get personal feedback on Chinese cloned phones!
>Could you test the camera for me? I really would like to know if it can take pictures at night, what's the pictures quality, real MPX of the camera.
The camera has a popup controls dialog with the following settings
- Resolution: L, 1M, 2M, 3M
- White Balance: Auto, night, daylight, {some bizarre symbol that might mean fluorescent light}, incandescent light (a traditional lightbulb)
- EV: +/- 2 stops
- Location for storage;
- Wide-screen review
- Auto-timer
There's also a quick route to view stored pictures and a menu: the menu has
- Special Effect ( a bunch like b&w, sepia, etc)
- Snap sound
- Flash
- Iamge[sic] Quality : High Low Normal
- About: Camera V1.0
I took just a couple of shots outside at twilight and at night. Twilight ones appeared on the screen pretty close to what I was seeing. Not entirely sure what you were looking for with the night shots: they look dark, naturally! I've not viewed them on a pc yet (so no opinion on the quality) but on the phone's screen you can make out street lights etc. in the night shots
Stored as: Jpeg
Sizes: 2048 x 1246, 1600x960, 1280x768,
> Could you also please tell us your opinion about the speed of the phone?
> try to use a couple of apps at the same time and see what happends.
> Or a 3d game if you can!
If I'm not mistaken, apps don't run seem to concurrently in Windows Mobile: i.e. although in RAM, they remain in a sleep mode until you switch to them. This seems to be backed up by the view in task manager: CPU usage remains 0% for "running" apps. So running other apps shouldn't really affect performance other than by hogging RAM.
I've no 3D games (and anyway, as this is my first smart phone, I'd have nothing to compare with). As an aside, the phone has Teeter installed (one of those marble-around-a-maze) which, although it doesn't show off the graphics or processing, it does show off the gravity sensor and it works really well.
I did a quick scan of xda-developers for benchmarking and came across SPB Benchmark (again, I'm not affiliated with SPB!). I'll give that a run and let you know. I don't know if there are other benchmark tests worth looking at?
Hello,
You can look at the technical characteristics of Sunno S880. This smartphone model uses Marvell PXA 310 806 MHz processor but the actual CPU frequency is 624 MHz. The CPU is fast and works well with almost all applications. It can run on Windows Mobile and Android, but for now there is not a complete ROM for Android. The camera is type CMOS sensor, 1944x2592 pixels, 5MP and its quality is not different from the other Sunno Smartphone models. It depends on the environmental light, however, there are different built-in filters that improve the image quality.
Hi infobg,
thanks for that link: the model I has some differences to the one listed:
-cosmetically, the back plate looks distinctly different, while there's a slight difference on the front.
- the device information (as reported by the device itself) states
CPU Model: Marvell PXA310
CPU Speed: 1GHz
So either this is a slightly different model to the one at the link, or the information can be/is faked in WinMob Settings/Device Info.
Could you explain a bit more "for now there is not a complete ROM for Android" - I have a complaint in with my seller because the phone doesn't support Android. Is a ROM due soon, and how could I get it?
Many thanks
Hi Itburns,
the information on the website is actual. We have added a link to the Marvell PXA310 CPU specifications. It runs well up to 624 MHz, so bear in mind that Windows may not show the right information because the equipment information is recorded by the software developer. This CPU generally supports the Android core, but there isn't yet a stable version for it.
It seems we need a benchmark of your phone itburns.
infobg, I've been researching a LOT in the web and there are actually 3 models of this phone. One of them seem to be a fake, another seem to be a old model and the other is the actual model(the one with 806Mhz CPU running at 624mhz)
It seems that the first model was the one with 1Ghz processor.
Itburns, hope we can see your benchmark test soon!
Im looking to buy your s880 model
Sunno S880 Benchmark
Description
The SPB Benchmark software runs a series of separate tests under the following headings:
- Main
- Sorage Cards
- Battery
- Active Sync
Setup:
I skipped the battery test: it involves things like brining it to full power, then allowing it to run out of power, then repeating under different conditions; hadn’t got the patience.
General: - After initiating the test, I didn’t interact with the phone until the tests had run to completion.
- Connections all off: phone, Bluetooth, wifi
- Screen “lightness” set half-way and timeout for dimming set to 15 seconds.
Specific test setup- Main, File – performed with the phone powered by the mains (but with the battery also at 100% power.)
- Active Sync – performed with the phone connected to a HP laptop.
Results:
The Spb Benchmark “visualise results” didn’t work when the combined tests {Main, Storage Card, Active Sync} were in the results file, so I split out the storage card results and uploaded {Main, Active Sync}: it is possible that this could affect some of the cumulative results? Anyway I’ve copied the relevant part of the xml file below for the storage card test.
The comparand (iPaq 3650) has a 206 MHz Intel StrongARM SA-1110 32-bit RISC Processor (source ipaqrepair.co.uk)
- The “Pocket Word” and “Internet Explorer” tests did do something, I could see stuff pop up on the screen (which came alive during the test), so it is possible that the test just failed to grab the results. IT IS POSSIBLE (PROBABLE?) that the cumulative Spb Benchmark index is incomplete or unreliable, given the few failures?
- Note: for some values it would look like a low value is good (File system index?), but the hyperlinks on the spb site to explain the benchmarks seem to be broken, so I cannot be sure.
Spb Benchmark Indices
Spb Benchmark index: 463.21 (iPAQ 3650 scored 1000)
CPU index: 2657.1 (iPAQ 3650 scored 1000)
File system index: 183.66 (iPAQ 3650 scored 1000)
Graphics index: 2018.77 (iPAQ 3650 scored 1000)
ActiveSync index: 13219.63 (iPAQ 3650 scored 1000)
Platform index: insufficient number of tests were done. (iPAQ 3650 scored 1000)
Main test results:
Test Time Speed % of iPAQ 3650* speed
Write 1 MB file :527 ms 1945 KB/sec 245%
Read 1 MB file : 121 ms 8.27 MB/sec 45%
Copy 1 MB file : 563 ms 1819 KB/sec 230%
Write 10 KB x 100 files : 3182 ms 322 KB/sec 57%
Read 10 KB x 100 files : 422 ms 2.37 MB/sec 37%
Copy 10 KB x 100 files : 3425 ms 299 KB/sec 63%
Directory list of 2000 files : 1280 ms 1.56 thousands of files/sec 1%
Internal database read : 510 ms 1962 records/sec 466%
Graphics test: DDB BitBlt : 16.5 ms 60.6 frames/sec 225%
Graphics test: DIB BitBlt : 85.7 ms 11.7 frames/sec 86%
Graphics test: GAPI BitBlt : 1 ms 1000 frames/sec 464%
Pocket Word document open : error
Pocket Internet Explorer HTML load : error
Pocket Internet Explorer JPEG load : error
File Explorer large folder list : 3346 ms 598 files/sec 116%
Compress 1 MB file using ZIP : 3106 ms 326 KB/sec 308%
Decompress 1024x768 JPEG file : 292 ms 961 KB/sec 301%
Arkaball frames per second : 2.86 ms 350 frames/sec 323%
CPU test: Whetstones MFLOPS : 2995 ms 0.124 Mop/sec 269%
CPU test: Whetstones MOPS : 722 ms 87.3 Mop/sec 256%
CPU test: Whetstones MWIPS : 6238 ms 8.02 Mop/sec 269%
Memory test: copy 1 MB using memcpy : 7.01 ms 143 MB/sec 203%
ActiveSync: upload 1 MB file : 870 ms 1177 KB/sec 1022%
ActiveSync: download 1 MB file : 375 ms 2730 KB/sec 2906% <storagecard-tests>
<storagecard-test card-name="Storage Card">
<sc-largefilewrite>1224.800000</sc-largefilewrite>
<sc-largefileread>372.700000</sc-largefileread>
<sc-largefilecopyto>592.300000</sc-largefilecopyto>
<sc-largefilecopyfrom>634.800000</sc-largefilecopyfrom>
<sc-manyfileswrite>5391.400000</sc-manyfileswrite>
<sc-manyfilesread>606.800000</sc-manyfilesread>
<sc-manyfilescopyto>4347.700000</sc-manyfilescopyto>
<sc-manyfilescopyfrom>2888.800000</sc-manyfilescopyfrom>
<sc-dirlisting>212.700000</sc-dirlisting>
</storagecard-test>
<storagecard-test card-name="built in storage">
<sc-largefilewrite>524.200000</sc-largefilewrite>
<sc-largefileread>122.100000</sc-largefileread>
<sc-largefilecopyto>560.700000</sc-largefilecopyto>
<sc-largefilecopyfrom>564.100000</sc-largefilecopyfrom>
<sc-manyfileswrite>3326.100000</sc-manyfileswrite>
<sc-manyfilesread>358.300000</sc-manyfilesread>
<sc-manyfilescopyto>3336.100000</sc-manyfilescopyto>
<sc-manyfilescopyfrom>3571.600000</sc-manyfilescopyfrom>
<sc-dirlisting>1226.000000</sc-dirlisting>
</storagecard-test>
</storagecard-tests>
Sunno S880 Benchmark - Second test
CORRECTION: In my first posting, I said that the S880 doesn't have a built-in stylus, but I have since found it! It is very neatly hidden in the bottom right of the phone.
Ok, I've now run SKTools' benchmark. There seems to be quite a variation in the results on different runs of the tests, so this is only a snapshot and may not indicate the best or worst performance of the S880. The SKTools results usefully provide results from other phones: in the results below, I've also given results for the Touch Diamond (528MHz), Samsung Omnia II (800MHz) and HDC Touch HD2 (1GHz). Mhz250, I took a look at the video on china mobile com and the form factor of the model matches my own.
Setup as before:
- phone plugged into mains
- connections off (bluetooth, phone, wifi)
- Screen lightness mid-way, with a timeout of 15 seconds
Results:
Integer: 347 Moves / 25usec :
Compare with: 331 HTC Touch Diamond (528MHz)
530 Samsung Ominia II (800Mhz)
813 HTC HD2 (1 GHz)
Floating point: 8.751
Compare with: 7.64 HTC Touch Diamond
11.40 Samsung Omia II
19.71 HTC HD2
Ram Access: 929
Compare with: 472 HTC Touch Diamond
795 Samsung Omia II
1445 HTC HD2
Draw Bitmaps: 1262
Compare with: 765 HTC Touch Diamond
1621 Samsung Omia II
1135 HTC HD2
Main storage (write): 1901
Compare with: 14698 (!!?) HTC Touch Diamond
3750 Samsung Omia II
4983 HTC HD2
Main storage (read): 5003
Compare with: 16786 (!!?) HTC Touch Diamond
9480 Samsung Omia II
63340 (!!?) HTC HD2
Sunno S880 Conclusions: Steer clear!
So, up to now I've been recording first impressions and also benchmarks. Now that I've had some time to use the Sunno S880 as a phone, it is worth adding: it's rubbish.
a) call quality is very poor - those calling me hear an echo of themselves and also complain that it's very hard to make out what I'm saying. So if you don't want to be continually be repeating yourself, avoid.
b) the phone continually loses signal, often mid call. And I'm not talking about areas of "poor reception", this happens in our capital city.
Additionally: battery life is very short, I was getting a drop of about 50% overnight with light usage (about two-three calls, 5 mins playing mah jong).
In the end, I had to cut my losses and buy the cheapest big-brand phone that I could live with, so I got a Samsung Tocco Lite. Although I'm no fan of its software interface, the call quality on the Tocco is crystal clear and there's none of the loss of signal that I was experiencing with the S880.
So I'd have to conclude: avoid the Sunno S880.
Sunno s880 pro
Hi everybody
I would like to give you my feed back about the Sunno S880pro.
First I bought this mobile phone to the website Mobino1, the shipping was fast.
1-My first surprise was that the package was a bulk ,not in a nice packet (like the samsung phone).
2-The phone in itself is nice , the screen also.
3-The problems comes when I wanted to use the phone.
The wireless, bluethoot and phone network are not stabile, I have always disconnections. An When a use the wireless, bluethoot the Battery discharges very quickly.
The Big Problem is that I cannot make a call and send SMS With the Mobile phone company "BASE" (in Belgium). So with friends we tested with anothers Mobile phone Company " Mobistar" & "Proximus",In this case the calling work well.
So I decided to change my subscription to Mobistar.
To my big surprise after two days the disconnection problems come back again.
I still have the problem actually.
I try in vain to find another ROM for this phone ,but I have not found.
If someone has the program, I m interested to have.
thank you for your understanding
sorry for my poor english
Emmanuel
Well I am planning to get an android phone. Since I am a student I don't really need off the shelve and out of box multicore processor or some gimmicky stuff that adds to the price, what I am looking for is -
1. Q: Budget?
A: 15-20k INR ( ~$300-~$400)
2. Q: Preferred Form Factor(flip, bar, slider)?
A: Bar
3. Q: Preferred display type?
A: TFT / LED / AMOLED
4. Q: Do you have any brand preference or dislike? Please name them.
A: Sony , HTC (except One V)
5. Q: Preferred input method (Touchscreen, QWERTY, etc.)?
A: Touchscreen
6. Q: Camera required or not? If required, please specify type like front camera/flash/etc.
A: Required at least 5MP camera. Flash. With better sensors.
7. Q: Preferred operating system? (Android, Symbian, iOS, Windows Phone etc).
A: Android 2.3 minimum with upgrade to 4.0 official.
8. Q: Preferred connectivity options? (3G, Wifi, Edge etc).
A: 3G. / Wifi/ GPS/ Bluetooth
9. Q: What is your intended use for this phone(internet, camera, multimedia, mails, etc)?
A: Music, Sports - Tracker, Reading , Application development.
10. Q: Any other requirements?
A: Don't require dual sim/require dual sim/etc.
11. Q: If you have already considered a phone then please mention the model.
A: Sony Xperial Sola, Xperia Neo V .
Good looking with ample processing power.
Modding support.
More than fast web browsing.
Music and videos
Sports Tracker heavy usage
NOte - The most important thing that I want is MIUI / CM Mod support, since Xperia Sola is yet to be released by 22nd May in India, should I get the device ? or vouch for some older modle ? How well can I expect developer support specially MIUI rom ? I know its a bit to early to expect developer support but whats the developer take on SOLA ?
Those are the only primary need that I have, if the phone can render pdf that will be beneficial but i don't like sluggish rendering. I am buying the phone for learning purpose (droid ecosystem) and development of apps.
I dont have ample money in my hand nor I want a high end phone. My current phone Motorola WX260 (999 INR bucks) serves me good. have no real contrainst for screen size but it shouldn't be too big to carry.
Budget is max $400 that I can arrange. Will be good if I get some great deal online with some coupons.
Other than that I don't know what to expect. Not particularly looking for good cam and all, just more than decent music and web support with ample processing power.
That should suffice I guess , please do suggest me a decent phone.
Regards
shashpant said:
Well I am planning to get an android phone. Since I am a student I don't really need off the shelve and out of box multicore processor or some gimmicky stuff that adds to the price, what I am looking for is -
1. Q: Budget?
A: 15-20k INR ( ~$300-~$400)
2. Q: Preferred Form Factor(flip, bar, slider)?
A: Bar
3. Q: Preferred display type?
A: TFT / LED / AMOLED
4. Q: Do you have any brand preference or dislike? Please name them.
A: Sony , HTC (except One V)
5. Q: Preferred input method (Touchscreen, QWERTY, etc.)?
A: Touchscreen
6. Q: Camera required or not? If required, please specify type like front camera/flash/etc.
A: Required at least 5MP camera. Flash. With better sensors.
7. Q: Preferred operating system? (Android, Symbian, iOS, Windows Phone etc).
A: Android 2.3 minimum with upgrade to 4.0 official.
8. Q: Preferred connectivity options? (3G, Wifi, Edge etc).
A: 3G. / Wifi/ GPS/ Bluetooth
9. Q: What is your intended use for this phone(internet, camera, multimedia, mails, etc)?
A: Music, Sports - Tracker, Reading , Application development.
10. Q: Any other requirements?
A: Don't require dual sim/require dual sim/etc.
11. Q: If you have already considered a phone then please mention the model.
A: Sony Xperial Sola, Xperia Neo V .
Good looking with ample processing power.
Modding support.
More than fast web browsing.
Music and videos
Sports Tracker heavy usage
NOte - The most important thing that I want is MIUI / CM Mod support, since Xperia Sola is yet to be released by 22nd May in India, should I get the device ? or vouch for some older modle ? How well can I expect developer support specially MIUI rom ? I know its a bit to early to expect developer support but whats the developer take on SOLA ?
Those are the only primary need that I have, if the phone can render pdf that will be beneficial but i don't like sluggish rendering. I am buying the phone for learning purpose (droid ecosystem) and development of apps.
I dont have ample money in my hand nor I want a high end phone. My current phone Motorola WX260 (999 INR bucks) serves me good. have no real contrainst for screen size but it shouldn't be too big to carry.
Budget is max $400 that I can arrange. Will be good if I get some great deal online with some coupons.
Other than that I don't know what to expect. Not particularly looking for good cam and all, just more than decent music and web support with ample processing power.
That should suffice I guess , please do suggest me a decent phone.
Regards
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Now you have:
Sony Xperia Neo V
Sony Xperia ray
Motorola Motoluxe
But I think you should wait for Sola It's new, good technical specs and looks amazing, like all new expensive models S, U, P.
Hi friends and spice mi 500 owners!
As local devices like mi 500 don't have a separate section for them on xda, here's a specific thread for our mi 500 where you can share everything related to the phone: ROMs, recoveries, themes, games you can play and everything that can be done on an Android.
Rooting your phone:
Download Bin4ry rooting tool from his thread.
Install drivers on your windows pc using pdanet.
Connect your phone to your pc.
Unzip Bin4ry's tool and run the RunMe.bat batch script.
Follow the instructions that roll in the command window and you will be done.
A big thanks to Nileshtambe for this.
ClockworkMod ported to Spice Mi 500!
Download CWM or TWRP recovery.
Rename the downloaded file to recovery.img and transfer it to your phone's sd card.
Download Mobile uncle MTK Tools from Play Store.
Open the app and select update recovery.
Select yes in the confirmation dialog and your recovery will be flashed.
Thank you Yuweng for porting CWM, and NileshTambe for confirming it's working.
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Specs of Spice Mi 500:
Dimensions: 143x77.4x10.5 mm
GSM Phone,Quad-band GSM 850/ 900/ 1800/ 1900
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Battery: 2400 mAh
5" TFT display with 480x800 resolution, 186.59 ppi density and 0.1361 mm dot pitch.
Weight: 205 g
Capacitive multitouch touch screen
Storage:
Internal: 2.07 GB
External: upto 32 GB
Ram: 512 MB
ROM: 4 GB
CAMERA:
Secondary/back camera: 5 megapixels with autofocus and dual LED flash
Primary Camera: 0.3 megapixel
GPS/A-GPS, proximity sensor, accelerometer
The phone is dual Sim and supports dual standby. Other hardware features include 3G, Bluetooth, Wifi and everything else generally found in a phone.
The phone can currently be ordered from saholic for inr 12,499.
Whatever follows ahead is not meant for noobs, neither for those who don't want to risk their devices. Following anything below might lead you to voiding your manufacturer warranty.
P.S. If any developer has got this device, please port clockwork mood recovery to this device. If you have got any specific rooting method that worked for your mi 500, post it below our pm me.
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Received my Spice Mi-500 - running commentary
Just received it 18 hours ago - this will be a running commentary on it. In a week's time I will post my full review
1) Looks good - not too bulky
2) Screen resolution is 800x480 - but its not pixelated. Screen bright and colors look accurate
3) Camera pathetic - some software bug creates hyper-contrasted and hyper-colored photos - needs a software update to fix this (NB: changing the camera settings on contrast, color, etc does nothing and photos still look pretty bad)
4) No compass - no magnetic sensor - Is this not present or has this not been activated??
5) The CPU and GPU are pretty good - MTK6577 dual core 1Ghz processor is fast and Antutu benchmark scores are very close to the Samsung S2. GPU works well on HD games (not fully tested)
6) Software is android 4.0.4 - not too many tweaks by Spice. A few preinstalled apps like TOI, dhingana, etc
7) Very responsive and fluid - no hangups or crashes yet
8) Battery life seems fine (but, not fully tested). GPS sucks away battery at the rate of 1% per minute. 3G usage is not as battery hungry
18hr report - great value for money phone - desperately needs a software update to fix the camera bug
Hello Vind_r,
Welcome to xda (I noticed it was your first post) and also to this thread.
Have you had any prior experience with any Android smartphone? Do you know rooting and stuff? If yes, then please check out if the processor given in the original post works for the mi 500 or not.
If no, you might want to check out the [URL ="http://www.droidiser.com/2012/07/must-have-apps-for-android-beginners.html"]list of must have apps for your new Android phone.[/URL]
Coming to the benchmark thing, can you post a screenshot/snap of the benchmark screen showing the results. Also try out the quadrant benchmark score and post it here so that we can compare it with some other devices. You're the only one here (at present) who is having the device, that's why I am asking you to do so much stuff
vind_r said:
3) Camera pathetic - some software bug creates hyper-contrasted and hyper-colored photos - needs a software update to fix this
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Try alternative camera apps from the play store. Search for "camera"to get few relevant apps.
vind_r said:
No compass - no magnetic sensor - Is
this not present or has this not been
activated??
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Try this compass application:https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devuni.compass&hl=en
If it works fine, your device has a magnetic sensor. Android phones most probably have a magnetic sensor.
vind_r said:
Just received it 18 hours ago - this will be a running commentary on it. In a week's time I will post my full review
1) Looks good - not too bulky
2) Screen resolution is 800x480 - but its not pixelated. Screen bright and colors look accurate
3) Camera pathetic - some software bug creates hyper-contrasted and hyper-colored photos - needs a software update to fix this (NB: changing the camera settings on contrast, color, etc does nothing and photos still look pretty bad)
4) No compass - no magnetic sensor - Is this not present or has this not been activated??
5) The CPU and GPU are pretty good - MTK6577 dual core 1Ghz processor is fast and Antutu benchmark scores are very close to the Samsung S2. GPU works well on HD games (not fully tested)
6) Software is android 4.0.4 - not too many tweaks by Spice. A few preinstalled apps like TOI, dhingana, etc
7) Very responsive and fluid - no hangups or crashes yet
8) Battery life seems fine (but, not fully tested). GPS sucks away battery at the rate of 1% per minute. 3G usage is not as battery hungry
18hr report - great value for money phone - desperately needs a software update to fix the camera bug
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Can u plz post antutu,quadrant,nenamrk,nenamark 2 scores?
Is it scratch resistent?
which you is present in this phone?
does it gets heated?
is it really 200 grams ?
how is the battery life on heavy usage?
can it play nova and gta or any HD game like those?
how are all the sensors?
how is web browsing?
does second Sim gets disabled while first has data connection on?
does the screen gets fingerprints?
is the body made of cheap plastic our and solid material?
how does it feels in hand? is it easy to carry and has a comfortable grip?
can it be really used with single hand i mean can your fingers reach every party of the screen?
Mi-500 benchmark
droidiser said:
Hello Vind_r,
Welcome to xda (I noticed it was your first post) and also to this thread.
Have you had any prior experience with any Android smartphone? Do you know rooting and stuff? If yes, then please check out if the processor given in the original post works for the mi 500 or not.
If no, you might want to check out the ]
Coming to the benchmark thing, can you post a screenshot/snap of the benchmark screen showing the results. Also try out the quadrant benchmark score and post it here so that we can compare it with some other devices. You're the only one here (at present) who is having the device, that's why I am asking you to do so much stuff
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I have experience rooting a lot of android devices - I have had android phones and tablets and have rooted/unlocked/hacked/installed custom rom/etc on them all!!. But I am not going to root/hack/customise my mi-500 for the next month - want to check out how all the hardware/software parts work before I start tweaking it. In a month of so, I will definitely start customising my mi-500 and I will certainly report back on this forum.
Coming to the benchmark, I have attached the Antutu benchmark scores - scores quite well (especially when one considers the price). But, am not a big believer in benchmarks - like real-life testing using real-world apps. The processor seems quite capable - In 1 day of mild usage, my Mi-500 has been very smooth, very fluid - does not hang/stutter or slow down in anything mild. I have browsed extensively using the stock browser, played a couple of casual games, recieved/sent emails, opened pdfs/ppts/doc/xls etc using kingsoft - basically used it non-gaming, work purposes - processor has handled it well. Will start throwing more intensive things at it over the weekend and will report back. Have not tested the GPU extensively - another thing I will do this weekend
droidiser said:
Try alternative camera apps from the play store. Search for "camera"to get few relevant apps.
Try this compass application:
If it works fine, your device has a magnetic sensor. Android phones most probably have a magnetic sensor.
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Have used multiple camera apps - all end up looking similar - there seems to be some weird OS/firmware level bug that creates horrible pictures. On the veiwfinder screen, things looks balanced - when clicked and opened, everything is over saturated. Definitely needs a software update/camera firmware update to correct this
My mi-500 does not have a magnetic sensor (or it has been deactivated at the OS level). No software recognises/identifies any sort of magnetic sensor and no compass or map app shows this either. Have used multiple android system informers/elixer/compass type apps - all report that there is no magnetic sensor.
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vind_r said:
Have used multiple camera apps - all end up looking similar - there seems to be some weird OS/firmware level bug that creates horrible pictures. On the veiwfinder screen, things looks balanced - when clicked and opened, everything is over saturated. Definitely needs a software update/camera firmware update to correct this
My mi-500 does not have a magnetic sensor (or it has been deactivated at the OS level). No software recognises/identifies any sort of magnetic sensor and no compass or map app shows this either. Have used multiple android system informers/elixer/compass type apps - all report that there is no magnetic sensor.
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Does anyone else with a Mi-500 also have the same camera problems? And does any other Mi-500 have a compass/magnetic sensor in it?? Could I have received a dud Mi-500 with these two problems?
rjunraj said:
Can u plz post antutu,quadrant,nenamrk,nenamark 2 scores?
Is it scratch resistent?
which you is present in this phone?
does it gets heated?
is it really 200 grams ?
how is the battery life on heavy usage?
can it play nova and gta or any HD game like those?
how are all the sensors?
how is web browsing?
does second Sim gets disabled while first has data connection on?
does the screen gets fingerprints?
is the body made of cheap plastic our and solid material?
how does it feels in hand? is it easy to carry and has a comfortable grip?
can it be really used with single hand i mean can your fingers reach every party of the screen?
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1) Antutu benchmark posted - please above
2) Have not tested the screen for scratch resistance. Will not test it deliberately - but, it will be evident in a month or two if it is.. Will reprt back
3) It does not get heated under normal and 3g use. Top of screen gets heated when charging - makes it very difficult to hold to ear for ~2-3 mins after charging - cools down soon though
4) Battery life not yet fully tested - but has lasted whole day with 3G on and intermittent use
5) Have not played any HD game on it yet
6) No magnetic sensor/compass - do not know if this is a bug in my phone or if it is omitted altogether or it it needs to be activated at firmware/OS level through a software update. But - at the moment, no compass - no gyroscope. All other sensors present - proximity, accelerometer, etc
7)We browsing is super smooth using stock browser - dual core processor really helps (+ ICS browser is quite good)
8) If 3G is on on the master SIM, then data can be used on the 1st sim and 2nd sim is active also (for calls only)
9) Spice have sent it with a screenguard on - leaving it on for 1-2 weeks. So, havent checked if screen is oleophobic or regular
10) It is indeed 200g. It has a second flip cover based back cover also included in the package - if you remove the stock back cover and put this flip cover, then the weight goes up by 10-15%
11) Feels comfortable to hold. Of course with a 5 inch screen, no way can you do everything one handed - you need two hands or to keep it on a table for some activities
12) Material is white with a silver trim on the side - all plastic. Feels decent
vind_r said:
1) Antutu benchmark posted - please above
2) Have not tested the screen for scratch resistance. Will not test it deliberately - but, it will be evident in a month or two if it is.. Will reprt back
3) It does not get heated under normal and 3g use. Top of screen gets heated when charging - makes it very difficult to hold to ear for ~2-3 mins after charging - cools down soon though
4) Battery life not yet fully tested - but has lasted whole day with 3G on and intermittent use
5) Have not played any HD game on it yet
6) No magnetic sensor/compass - do not know if this is a bug in my phone or if it is omitted altogether or it it needs to be activated at firmware/OS level through a software update. But - at the moment, no compass - no gyroscope. All other sensors present - proximity, accelerometer, etc
7)We browsing is super smooth using stock browser - dual core processor really helps (+ ICS browser is quite good)
8) If 3G is on on the master SIM, then data can be used on the 1st sim and 2nd sim is active also (for calls only)
9) Spice have sent it with a screenguard on - leaving it on for 1-2 weeks. So, havent checked if screen is oleophobic or regular
10) It is indeed 200g. It has a second flip cover based back cover also included in the package - if you remove the stock back cover and put this flip cover, then the weight goes up by 10-15%
11) Feels comfortable to hold. Of course with a 5 inch screen, no way can you do everything one handed - you need two hands or to keep it on a table for some activities
12) Material is white with a silver trim on the side - all plastic. Feels decent
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How is the touch responce and scrolling?
Can u upload a video review on youtube?
I m still not sure about hd video and gaming fun and also about battery life.
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How many touch points does it have?
Spice mi 425 had 5 touch points so i guess this one would also have
rjunraj said:
How is the touch responce and scrolling?
Can u upload a video review on youtube?
I m still not sure about hd video and gaming fun and also about battery life.
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How many touch points does it have?
Spice mi 425 had 5 touch points so i guess this one would also have
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The screen is 800x480 - but its still sharp at normal distances (its not a retina display by any stretch, but at normal viewing distances it does not matter). It has only 2 touch points - but have no complaints as it is very sensitive and the sensitivity can be dialled up or down at the OS level.
Battery life is quite good - no fully tested, but in normal usage with 3g always on and wifi off and auto brightness, even after 8 hours of moderate usage, 50% battery life is left (single SIM only - am sure if both SIMs are present and active, this will decrease the battery life)
Spice Mi-500 is manufactured by Chinese OEM Konka - sold in China as Konka W990
Found this when I was exploring the menu options. Please find below additional details and specifications of this phone. (have also attached two photos of the W990 - obviously, other than the branding, it looks exactly same as mi-500).
Hope this information helps those of us creating custom ROMs etc.
BTW - this forum is not allowing me to post links
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Konka W990 3G WCDMA Android4.0 MT6577 Dual Core 1.0GHz Dual Sim 4.0"WVGA 5.0MP
Description:
Konka W990, 3G WCDMA, Android4.0, MT6577 Dual Core 1.0GHz, Dual Sim, 4.0"WVGA, 5.0MP, Gravity Sensor, Proximity Sensor, Light Sensor, Smartphone, Wifi, GPS, FM radio, Multi-touch, Schedule Power on/off
Brand / Model
Konka W990
CPU
CPU: MTK6577 ARMv7 Cortex-A9 Dual-core 1.0GHz
GPU: PowerVR SGX531 Ultra
OS
Android V4.0
Default English.
Memory
RAM : 512MB / ROM : 4GB eMMC
MAX supports 32GB Class 12 Micro SD Memory Card (TF-Card)
Size
143 x 77.4 x 10.5mm
Weight
205g with battery
Screen
5.0" WVGA, 480 x 800, 16M Colors (TBD),TFT-LCD
Capacitive Multi Touch Screen
Network
Dual Sim, supports W+G / G+G
2G：GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 900/1800/1900 MHz
3G：WCDMA/HSPA/HSPA+: 2100MHz
Color
White
GPS
Built In GPS & A.GPS
Connection
Bluetooth with EDR & A2DP
Wi-Fi : IEEE 802.11 b/g/n, supports Wi-Fi hotspot
micro USB 2.0
Camera
Dual Camera
Back 5.0 mega pixel / Auto Focus / Flash LED
Front 0.3 mega pixel, supports Skype Video Calls
Support to shoot 3GP 720P (1280x720) with sound, Max 30 mins.
Sensor
Gravity Sensor, Proximity Sensor, Light Sensor
Radio
FM
Video
AVI, MP4, FLV, 3GP, MOV, ASF, MPEG, RMVB, H.263, H.264, etc.
Audio
MP3, AAC, WAV, etc. / 3.5 mm Audio Jack, Beats Audio
Special function
G-sensor, P-Sensor, L-Sensor, FM radio, Wifi, GPS, Multi-touch, Dual SIM, Schedule Power on/off
Package Includes
- Li-ion Batteries 2350mAh x 1
- Earphone / 3.5 mm Audio Jack
- USB Cable
- Charger
vind_r said:
Found this when I was exploring the menu options. Please find below additional details and specifications of this phone. (have also attached two photos of the W990 - obviously, other than the branding, it looks exactly same as mi-500).
Hope this information helps those of us creating custom ROMs etc.
BTW - this forum is not allowing me to post links
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Konka W990 3G WCDMA Android4.0 MT6577 Dual Core 1.0GHz Dual Sim 4.0"WVGA 5.0MP
Description:
Konka W990, 3G WCDMA, Android4.0, MT6577 Dual Core 1.0GHz, Dual Sim, 4.0"WVGA, 5.0MP, Gravity Sensor, Proximity Sensor, Light Sensor, Smartphone, Wifi, GPS, FM radio, Multi-touch, Schedule Power on/off
Brand / Model
Konka W990
CPU
CPU: MTK6577 ARMv7 Cortex-A9 Dual-core 1.0GHz
GPU: PowerVR SGX531 Ultra
OS
Android V4.0
Default English.
Memory
RAM : 512MB / ROM : 4GB eMMC
MAX supports 32GB Class 12 Micro SD Memory Card (TF-Card)
Size
143 x 77.4 x 10.5mm
Weight
205g with battery
Screen
5.0" WVGA, 480 x 800, 16M Colors (TBD),TFT-LCD
Capacitive Multi Touch Screen
Network
Dual Sim, supports W+G / G+G
2G：GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 900/1800/1900 MHz
3G：WCDMA/HSPA/HSPA+: 2100MHz
Color
White
GPS
Built In GPS & A.GPS
Connection
Bluetooth with EDR & A2DP
Wi-Fi : IEEE 802.11 b/g/n, supports Wi-Fi hotspot
micro USB 2.0
Camera
Dual Camera
Back 5.0 mega pixel / Auto Focus / Flash LED
Front 0.3 mega pixel, supports Skype Video Calls
Support to shoot 3GP 720P (1280x720) with sound, Max 30 mins.
Sensor
Gravity Sensor, Proximity Sensor, Light Sensor
Radio
FM
Video
AVI, MP4, FLV, 3GP, MOV, ASF, MPEG, RMVB, H.263, H.264, etc.
Audio
MP3, AAC, WAV, etc. / 3.5 mm Audio Jack, Beats Audio
Special function
G-sensor, P-Sensor, L-Sensor, FM radio, Wifi, GPS, Multi-touch, Dual SIM, Schedule Power on/off
Package Includes
- Li-ion Batteries 2350mAh x 1
- Earphone / 3.5 mm Audio Jack
- USB Cable
- Charger
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More information taken from the Chinese site on Konka w990 - of course, Spice have deactivated some of the Chinese specific functions like cloud storage, chinese voice recognition, chinese character input using stylus etc
Please note that the text below is taken from the Chinese website and so is obviously in highly tortured english!!!!
An atmospheric appearance, craftsmanship, taste of the election
● Konka dual-core using the large international companies, auto-sensing holster, opening the lid bright screen, closing lid put out the screen, user-friendly operation with thoughtful design, all-round for you to consider.
● innovation process stainless steel mold injection, the border is more narrow, thinner body, higher strength and feel better. The three-dimensional laser engraving process battery cover, delicate texture, comfortable non-slip.
● unique ultra-fine capacitive stylus, the industry-leading, then the complexity of Chinese characters can be accurately written, designed specifically for the Chinese people are used to.
Cortex-A9 architecture 1GHz dual-core CPU , a leading architecture, dual-core configuration, powerful performance
● Konka dual-core 40nm ultimate craft new Cortex-A9 architecture CPU 1Ghz dual-core ultra-high configuration with DDR2 high frequency memory the eMMC memory technology, performance almost equal to the top level bring more speed operation experience, the menu switch fast and smooth multitasking operating hand in hand.
● Built-in independent graphics processor GPU responsible for 2D/3D graphics calculations accelerated par with high-end performance, smooth running Need for Speed Urban GT 3D fighting game, more brilliant screen.
3. support the Android4.0 operating systems, smart to experience a new upgrade
● Konka dual-core support Android4.0 intelligent operating system faster, more fluid menu to switch, and more powerful.
● innovative face recognition unlock function, quick screen shot, panorama, font adjustment, image editing, and new features, bringing a new exceptional operating experience.
4. 5.0 -inch WVGA high-definition capacitive touch screen, open full HD Horizons
● Konka dual-core with a 5.0 inch wide viewing angle, resolution up to 800 × 480 , colorful, bright and clear.
● High sensitivity capacitive touch screen, supports multi-touch, free to stretch the picture, web pages, quickly and accurately reflect the humane new experience.
5. 500 megapixel AF autofocus camera, support LED flash, easily record a wonderful life
● Konka dual-core built-in 500 million pixel high-definition camera, super photosensitive ability to support AF autofocus with LED flash, ready to record the wonderful life lens effects comparable professional digital cameras, and more support for bar code scanning, business card recognition application.
● Independent front camera, video telephony, network video chat, self-timer ... casual.
● more support 720P HD video playback, playback, and easy to record high-definition video, ready to watch, delicate and smooth screen.
. cloud computing, cloud storage, cloud application Trinity, experience Intelligent era leading technology.
● Konka dual-core super cloud computing technology and support original handwriting function, can any handwritten the hybrid input text, letters, numbers, symbols, Bifeng free to choose the color, presented exclusively for your pen wind Wencai via MMS form of microblogging, e-mail, send a share.
● support the intelligent cloud applications - KOVO - Konka intelligent cloud voice system, the leading Chinese language understanding and recognition engine to achieve a number of functions, artificial intelligence and language exchanges and communication between the user and the phone.
● support for secure cloud storage, the configuration Mycloud private cloud server, fragmentation segmentation, multiple encryption and multiple backup cloud technology, free oversized exclusive space, so you can be anywhere, anytime remote access cloud backup photos, contacts, files, etc. .
7 , WIFI , GPS , Bluetooth, everything, QQ , microblogging, living navigation, HIFI music ...... rich smart applications, unlimited wonderful all in one.
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vind_r said:
Have used multiple camera apps - all end up looking similar - there seems to be some weird OS/firmware level bug that creates horrible pictures. On the veiwfinder screen, things looks balanced - when clicked and opened, everything is over saturated. Definitely needs a software update/camera firmware update to correct this
My mi-500 does not have a magnetic sensor (or it has been deactivated at the OS level). No software recognises/identifies any sort of magnetic sensor and no compass or map app shows this either. Have used multiple android system informers/elixer/compass type apps - all report that there is no magnetic sensor.
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Does anyone else with a Mi-500 also have the same camera problems? And does any other Mi-500 have a compass/magnetic sensor in it?? Could I have received a dud Mi-500 with these two problems?
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Confirmed that the Mi-500 does NOT have any magnetic sensor or compass (the original chinese version also excludes compass/magnetic sensor in its descriptions. So, its not just my phone - all Mi-500s lack a compass.
Tried using Google Navigate without compass - works quite well and maps out orientation well - only problem is when you are stationary - then, it does not show which direction one has to start out. But, after 5 mins of usage, did not have too many problems.
Installing and Rooting CWM
Hi Folks
I am using ZOPO ZP900 Leader phone and since the Spice Stellar uses the same processor MTK 6577, I am sure most of you will be seeking ways and means to Install CWM and root the phone.
MTK requires a Flash Tool to load ROMs. I have made a detailed guide for Installing CWM on ZOPO which can be accessed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1899412
For video guide you can see here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rfemoi6Aizw. The method is same when using Flash tool !
Note ZOPO device comes rooted but without CWM and hence my requirement was slightly different.
You can use this method to flash CWM and use the options including making a nandroid backup, but I am not sure if flashing any of the available Su signed.zip files in this forums will effectively root this device (this was method to root the earlier Spice MI 410).
I am not a dev and maybe a dev/experienced member can comment on this.
Nevertheless this is a beginning ! If anyone make headway please do share and report for others benefit.
Also note there are many MTK 6577 devices and some have already released MODs based on Stock Rom. PLEASE DO NOT FLASH THEM since rest of the device hardware is very different !
Cheers !
vijayar said:
Hi Folks
I am using ZOPO ZP900 Leader phone and since the Spice Stellar uses the same processor MTK 6577, I am sure most of you will be seeking ways and means to Install CWM and root the phone.
MTK requires a Flash Tool to load ROMs. I have made a detailed guide for Installing CWM on ZOPO which can be accessed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1899412
For video guide you can see here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rfemoi6Aizw. The method is same when using Flash tool !
Note ZOPO device comes rooted but without CWM and hence my requirement was slightly different.
You can use this method to flash CWM and use the options including making a nandroid backup, but I am not sure if flashing any of the available Su signed.zip files in this forums will effectively root this device (this was method to root the earlier Spice MI 410).
I am not a dev and maybe a dev/experienced member can comment on this.
Nevertheless this is a beginning ! If anyone make headway please do share and report for others benefit.
Also note there are many MTK 6577 devices and some have already released MODs based on Stock Rom. PLEASE DO NOT FLASH THEM since rest of the device hardware is very different !
Cheers !
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For porting cwm use yuweng's guide present here at our xda....just search it. ...
My experience as a mtk user is that, I should better go back to samsung for any of their exynos or snapdragon...!
You can get the recovery.img of your stock recovery, then you can mod it so cwm can work with your android model.
If you don't already have the recovery.img file,to get it, first install terminal emulator on your phone(Your phone must be rooted for this!), then launch and type in:
$ su
# cat /proc/mtd
This should give you an output like:
dev: size erasesize name
mtd0: 00040000 00020000 "misc"
mtd1: 00500000 00020000 "recovery"
mtd2: 00280000 00020000 "boot"
mtd3: 04380000 00020000 "system"
mtd4: 04380000 00020000 "cache"
mtd5: 04ac0000 00020000 "userdata"
Now, check for the "recovery partition" , that is which "mtd" it's on. Here it's on mtd1, it might be different for your phone. With that info type in the terminal emulator(You should have your sdcard inserted before proceeding):
# cat /dev/mtd/mtd1(OR whichever mtd YOUR "recovery" is on) > /sdcard/recovery.img
Now upload that recovery.img file at http://builder.clockworkmod.com and see if the cwm works out for the Mi 500.
hi i brought two mi 500 ,, 2 days prior i had brought karbon a18 for my fried
battery backup is good but not good as mi 350 , screen is better in a18 but battery sucks of karbon only 1500 ma
gps and wifi sucks battery like hell
if i play 1080dpi battery drains like hell 2-3 points per min
camera is ok not bad , face unlock which i love most....
MI-500 and Exchange/ActiveSynch
Hi All,
Yesterday I purchased Spice MI-500. Its one good looking phone and I am loving it already. But there is a disappointment. I am not sure where the problem exists. Your inputs would be valuable.
I am trying to connect the phone to my office MS Exchange 2010 / ActiveSynch server using Email stock app. With all the credentials / settings correct, it errors out saying "Can't connect to server"
Talking to my admin, he reported this error on the server: 2012-10-12 06:52:07 10.51.1.90 POST /Microsoft-Server-ActiveSync/default.eas Cmd=FolderSync&User=somename%5Cusername&DeviceId=S piceMi-500&DeviceType=Android&Log=V141_LdapC1_RpcC13_RpcL 31_Cpo19968_Fet20013_S108_Error:deviceIdNonAlphanu meric_Mbxcmail02.officedomain.com_Throttle0_Budget D <truncated>
Note: Error:deviceIdNonAlphanumeric
The device id is : Spice MI-500.
Is "-" the problem? How do I work around this? Its defeating my purpose to buy this phone as a business / smart phone.
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After months of advertising, the ICOO ICOU Fatty2 is now finally on sale. The entry-level price of the tablet (Wi-Fi only) is RMB 899 (USD 149), which is much higher than competitions like the Yuandao mini one (USD 119) and CHUWI V88s (USD 119), both of which have the same 7.9 inch IPS display. But the Fatty2 is pricier for a reason, the 5500mAh battery it features gives the slate an extraordinary 10-12 hours run time, and the Wi-Fi reception is the best I’ve experienced on a Chinese tablet!
Key Features:
◇7.9 inch 16M-color IPS display at XGA resolution (1024X768 pixels)
◇Weighs 310g, 198*134*7mm in size.
◇Rockchip RK3188 SoC., 1.6GHZ quad core Cortex-A9 processor, Mali-400MP4 GPU, 1GB DDR3 RAM
◇Stock Android 4.1 Jelly Bean
◇16GB of built-in-storage
◇2.0MP front facing camera; 5.0MP rear-facing camera
◇Stereo speaker
◇HDMI TV-out
◇Bluetooth V2.1
◇USB host
◇MicroSD card slot
◇Standard 3.5mm audio jack
◇1080p video playback
◇5500mAh Li-Po rechargeable battery, 10-12 hours battery life
Main disadvantages:
Too similar to the iPad mini
So-so Cameras
Pricier than alternative options
First Impressions
The one thing that sticks out most about the Fatty2 is how much it looks like an iPad mini. And I'm not talking about the interface and apps, but the weight and size of the tablet, which is so thin and weighs so little you'd almost think you were browsing the web on a piece of paper.
The ICOU Fatty2 may not have the Retina Display and 2GB of DDR3 RAM of many 9.7 inch Chinese tablet, but it still looks beautiful and is extremely responsive. This shouldn't come as a surprise. Most apps are designed to run on standard resolution, only a few apps actually support the latest superior graphics of the retina display.
The 7.9-inch ICOU Fatty2 is only slightly larger than many 7 inchers, thanks to the narrow screen bezel it uses. When I pick it up with one hand, it seems just right. While many of the 8 inch tablets beg to be held with both hands, it feels natural to hold the Fatty in one hand, even for a long period of time.
Retail Package
It seems ICOO determined to stick to this colorful packaging approach for its tablet products this year. Fatty2 is wrapped up in a paperback box which has 7 colors to it. I personally prefer more simplistic style taken by Samsung and many other internationally well-known manufactures, but I can’t say that this packaging isn’t attractive.
Again, ICOO has carried on its wonderful tradition with a slew of buddle fittings. You will find a 5V-2A charger, a USB data cable, an OTG cable and a pair of SONY earphones along with the fatty2.
Design and Build
The front of the tablet is dominated by a 7.9 inch IPS display, with very small bezel around it. At 198*134mm, it is even smaller than the popular Apple iPad mini (200 x 134.7mm), and only slightly bigger than the Nexus 7 (198.5 x 120mm) and Kindle Fire HD (196.7 x 133), both of which use a much smaller 7-inch display.
As for thickness, the ICOO ICOU Fatty2 is easily the slimmest tablet I have ever seen, at 7mm it is even thinner than the ultra-slim iPad mini (7.2mm) and Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 (7.9mm). Although Yuandao has claimed the their so-called 6.8mm mini one is the thinnest tablet on earth, it is later proved to be just another lie, amongst many lies told by this unprincipled tablet maker.
All the connectors are hosted on the bottom edge. From left to right are a mini HDMI port, a micro USB port, a 2.5mm DC port, a 3.5mm audio jack, a tiny microphone pinhole and a MicroSD card slot which supports cards up to 32GB.
Again, ICOO has taken a simplistic approach with the hardware keys, only a power/standby key and a volume rocker will be found on the transition area between the right edge and the back. Personally, I dislike the arrangement that the power button is actually below the volume rockers. Moreover, I am really disappointed that, in portrait mode, the lower part of the volume rocker is actually volume +. I know this may be due to the fact that we more often use the tablet in vertical mode, but if a tablet is designed to be like an iPad, it should be arranged like an iPad.
The back of the slate is partially plastic, partially aluminum. This is, contrary to the button layout, a brilliant arrangement. The plastic can guarantee solid Wi-Fi reception, and the use of hairline metal can avoid the feel of cheapness. A 5MP auto-focus front facing camera sits comfortably on the upper left corner, and the only speaker gate is on the lower left corner.
Also, you can choose to purchase a magnetic protection cover or a Bluetooth keyboard for your Fatty2, both of which are at relatively low price (cover: $7, Keyboard: $17). When you open the cover, the Fatty2 magically wakes up. And while you close it, the Fatty2 automatically goes to sleep. I have only seen this useful function on the iPad series and some Windows tablet before. Its presence here on a low-price Chinese tablet is pretty surprising. The Bluetooth keyboard feels even more solid than the tablet itself, at just 7.7mm thick it can turn your Fatty2 into a super-slim ultra laptop in just a second!
Screen
The Fatty2 sports exactly the same display used on the iPad mini. The IPS display technology together with the 7.9” XGA display delivers seamlessly brilliant colors that redefines the best visual experience a tablet can offer.
The ultra slim 7.9” XGA display offers brilliant contrast ratio, the best color gamut and response time, making text or image-viewing extraordinarily crispy and vivid regardless the viewing angle.
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There is nothing special about the resolution and some 7" tablets like the Nexus7 and the Kindle Fire HD even push the pixel density above 200 ppi. If you did the math already, you'd know the Fatty2 is far behind at 163 ppi. The Retina display of the new iPad is the standard-setter in tablets at 264 ppi, and you will always keep in mind the existence of the Google Nexus 10, which holds the tablet record of 300ppi. Hacing said that, the Fatty2’s display is still vivid enough for most users, packing an XGA resolution in such a small screen definitely brings much better visual experience than most of the computers.
Even when you put the Fatty2 next to the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7, which features a more expensive, more vibrant Super AMOLED Plus display, it still won’t be outshined. In fact, the IPS display the Fatty2 sports is likely to be more accepted by the majority of users as its color expression is more close to real.
Performance
The Fatty2 is powered by the 1.6GHZ quad core RK3188 Chipset, along with 1GB DDR3 RAM, which put up some incredible benchmark scores.
The 17,472 overall Antutu benchmark score handily beat the 16,734 notched by the Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0, and smashed scores achieved by the Allwinner A31 powered Onda V818 mini and Actions ATM7029 powered Ainol NOVO8 Dream.
It’s more or less the same story on the Quadrant Advanced. Again, the RK3188 powered Fatty2 scored higher points than the other 3 devices.
In the graphics-focused Nenamark2 test, the Fatty2 scored 55.6 FPS, higher than the category average. But the Allwinner A31 powered Onda V818 mini scored a much more impressive 58.9 FPS, thanks to its impeccable PowerVR SGX544MP2 GPU.
The An3D Bench XL also centers on the 3D capability of the device. But the Fatty2 turned the tide around this time, notching an incredible 37,018, blowing the other 8 inch competitions out of the water.
Vellamo is by far my favorite Benchmark application, the scores of certain device are very consistent, regardless of the version of the software. Although the Fatty2 was beaten by the more all-optimized Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 in both HTML5 and Metal test, it still smashed the other two quad-core slates.
CF-bench also witnessed the Fatty2’s capability, the 15888 final score easily outshined its competitions.
Fortunately, the Fatty2’s real world performance cohere with its benchmark scores, at XGA resolution, it is truly the fastest tablet I have ever used, and I want to continue using it until the Quad Core A15 era’s here.
The stock web browser works fine enough, but I am more of a fan of Dolphin HD and Chrome. Even with more than a dozen of webpages opened in different tabs, the Fatty2 remained super responsive with no delay and lag at all. Most apps I have used on this device work perfectly, but with this resolution you will find a few of the apps specifically made for 16:10 screens appeared somewhat distorted on the Fatty2’s display, but I don't mind that as the screen and colors are incredibly amazing, and until you hold this in your hand it’s hard to put in writing just how beautiful it really is.
With 1GB of DDR3 RAM, the Fatty2 isn’t as strong as the PIPO M9 in multi-tasking, with lots of big applications running at the same time the smoothness could be crippled. By big applications I am not talking about the chatting apps such as Skype and ICQ, or even games like the “Angry Bird” and “Temple Run”, I am talking about real big apps such as “IRON MAN 3” and some Office applications. So, for anyone who’s not a psycho tester like myself, the Fatty2’s RAM is enough!
Although the Fatty2 isn't exactly the most incredible multi-tasker, it really shines in the game department. In both portrait and landscape modes, the tablet is easy to hold and control, making it a snap to play games where you need both thumbs on the screen. One-handed tapping and swiping is easy as well, thanks to the form factor of the unit. While you can appreciate the size of a 10-inch tablet for gaming, the 7.9 feels very good in your hands. Also, it had no issues with any of the games I opened up on it, ranging from “Temple Run 2” to “Fruit Ninja: Puss in Boots” to “Virtua Tennis” to that lone pre-loaded level of “Dead Space”. I even loaded the insanely graphic-intense “Need for Speed: the Most Wanted”, and quickly became obsessed with the fast racing and crushing. Despite the fact that these games can be processor intensive, particularly on a tablet, I had no issues whatsoever.
Movies and Videos play very well with the stock video player and there are several on the market you can use if you find videos that do not work on the stock player. In my actual test, I have no problem playing any local video file in my mobile disk. Even with a few 1080P videos which cannot be played through hard-decision decoding, you can use soft decode them smoothly, thanks to the extremely powerful RK3188 quad core chipset.
Audio
Sound-wise, while the HD videos really show off what this tablet is capable of, you'll want some headphones or an external sound solution. I am not saying the Fatty2’s speakers are bad, in fact, it is much better than most of the 7-8 inch tablets I have used in the audio department. But the single speaker still doesn't pack nearly as powerful an audio punch to match the visuals. Even at full volume, sounds like a whirring computer fan or a printer will easily drown out anything from the tablet.
Cameras
The cameras mounted on the ICOO Fatty2 aren't anything to write home about. Rear camera photos are decent, especially if you have enough light, and shooting video in 720 HD also can be seen as a bonus.
Of course, 5MP cameras on different Chinese tablets perform pretty much the same, and the Fatty2 isn’t really disappointing, it just cannot produce crisp HD photos that you would expect to go with this fabulous display. It is still worth using the camera on-board, especially because if you've ever seen someone holding up a full-sized iPad to take a photo or shoot video, you know how ridiculous they look. With this sleek 7.9-inch pad, it's much easier to get away with using it as a camera and not looking like you're a protester at a rally.
Connectivity
The Fatty2 is well equipped in terms of connectivity. There is a Micro USB connector for computer connection. There is a microSD card slot as well. The 16GB of internal storage helps too.
The Wi-Fi support includes a/b/g/n versions, with both 2.4GHz and 5GHz band compatibility. Wi-Fi Direct and DLNA support are also available. In my actual test, the Fatty2’s Wi-Fi reception is more than satisfactory, thanks to the M500 Wi-Fi module it features. This type of Wi-Fi Module is more often seen on those high-end smartphones. Below is the readings of Wi-Fi Analyzer on different spots and the comparison with readings of other tablets:
Also, the addition of Bluetooth is always a good thing, not only can u use it to transmit files without a data cable, u could also connect your tablet to those bluetooth input and audio devices:
Naturally, the Fatty2 supports USB on-the-go, and the adapter is already packaged in the paperback box along with the tablet. You can connect card readers, USB flash drives and other compatible devices to your tablet and access their contents through the file manager. Mice and keyboards are supported as well.
Unlike the iPad or Samsung Galaxy tabs, there is an independent mini HDMI port, all you need to do is to buy a $5 HDMI cable, and you can enjoy your tablet content on a much bigger screen.
Battery Life
The tablet is powered by a 5500mAh battery which, coupled with the power-efficient 28nm RK3188 SoC., is more than enough to make the Fatty2 one of the best tablets in terms of battery backup. In our battery test the slate achieved a score of 86 hours. This means that if you use the Fatty2 for an hour each of gaming, web browsing, and video playback every day, you will have to recharge it every 86 hours. And the tablet stood 11 hours, 55 minutes of online video streaming (30% of screen brightness, 50% of speaker volume), blowing the Beneve Miracle One’s 10 hour record out of the water:
In local video playback, the ICOU Fatty2 broke the long-held record by Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7, and smashed the other 8-inch Android tablets I’ve tested:
Charging the tablet is relatively fast, with the buddle 5V-2A charger you only have to wait 3 hours for a full charge (0%—100%). Shutdown charging support not only guarantees the efficiency, but also gives the tablet a longer life span.
Verdict
The good:
1. The screen is truly impressive. Although the resolution doesn't match the iPad4 and Nexus10's Retina Display, it is definitely in the same ballpark and provides very crisp images.
2. The slim chassis and narrow bezel design make holding the tablet in one hand no longer that much of an effort.
3. The slew of ports and slots the Fatty2 provides for its users are truly wonderful, you no longer need to buy expensive adapters to enjoy functions such as HDMI or OTG.
4. The Wi-Fi reception of the tablet is amazing, arguably the best I have experienced on a Chinese tablet.
5. The 5500mAh battery paired up with the power-efficient RK3188 SoC. gives the tablet an incredible 10-12 hours’ run time.
The bad:
1. The price is the biggest barrier to fully enjoying the Fatty2. Although compared to the iPad and the bunch of Samsung tablets, it is incredibly cheap already, yet its major competition comes from other Chinese tablet makers: the Yuandao Mini One, the Chuwi V88s and CUBE U35GT are all $30 cheaper than the Fatty2.
2. The Fatty2 ships with Android 4.1 Jelly Bean and uses the stock user interface. Although ICOO has promised an upgrade to Android 4.2 and a delicately designed Metro Launcher, and there are already a few beta ROMs out there. However, without a clear date in sight who knows when the official ROM will arrive.
3. With the 7.9 inch display and similar-sized chassis, it is pretty much another iPad mini look-alike, and this can bring you some queerish stares and annoying questions.
Final verdict
The form and size of the Fatty2 feels perfect for a device you can grab to take with you for a long trip, a meeting, or a trip to the ballpark. It isn't as unwieldy as a 10-inch tablet, but the tradeoff is the screen loses real estate previously devoted to input. As a result, it doesn't feel like a serious business device, even if you paired it up with the Bluetooth keyboard, the lack of capable Office applications is still standing in the way of carrying this Android slate around for tight-scheduled business meetings.
What you will really find in the Fatty2 is a very pretty, functional media device. Android fans should consider this device if it fits their needs, but with other similar options in lower price ranges, you'll want to take a hard look at those needs and decide if it actually works for what you need it to do. For a casual entertainment unit, it works well. Any more than that, and you're going to find the capabilities stretched very thin.
With more Chinese tablets coming to the table every day, most now in quad-core configurations and with equally impressive screen options, the Fatty2 faces quick obsolescence unless it can compete. A price drop and software upgrade would be a big step in the right direction.
This review took me weeks to finish, why doesn't anybody care to read it?
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jupiter2012 said:
This review took me weeks to finish, why doesn't anybody care to read it?
Sent from my XT910 using xda premium
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because it's too long.
Wow nice review, where did you buy?
vetro5 said:
Wow nice review, where did you buy?
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Yes, and more importantly, where to buy at $149. USD. The prices I have seen via Google search point to $200. USD and upward, so far. I also tried eBay and even the Fatty 1 is $160. USD, and again, the Fatty 2 is over $200.
Quite impressed. Now want to see if there are any bugs and kinks, strange things etc, which you never know about from a smaller brand and a smaller user base.
Where i can get model like this (clone of iPad mini) but with:
- Android 4.1 (+)
- quad core processor
- 2gb of ram
- 16gb of storage
- GPS integrated (so i can use offline navigation software like Sygic or Mireo)
- the same screen size 7,85" or 7,9"?
I loocked MSI Primo 81, Yuandoa Vido mini one and Cube U55gt - but this models have not GPS
Is there any good china tablet with my spec?
sylver said:
Where i can get model like this (clone of iPad mini) but with:
- Android 4.1 (+)
- quad core processor
- 2gb of ram
- 16gb of storage
- GPS integrated (so i can use offline navigation software like Sygic or Mireo)
- the same screen size 7,85" or 7,9"?
I loocked MSI Primo 81, Yuandoa Vido mini one and Cube U55gt - but this models have not GPS
Is there any good china tablet with my spec?
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Perhaps you should check the goopad android-sale.com
More specifically - http://android-sale.com/goopad-mini-3g.html
fortissimo said:
Yes, and more importantly, where to buy at $149. USD. The prices I have seen via Google search point to $200. USD and upward, so far. I also tried eBay and even the Fatty 1 is $160. USD, and again, the Fatty 2 is over $200.
Quite impressed. Now want to see if there are any bugs and kinks, strange things etc, which you never know about from a smaller brand and a smaller user base.
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The retail price in China is RMB899, which is like 149 USD. But the price may vary in different countries, in relation with the taxations and transportation costs.
Hello,
Nice review thanks I wanted to buy this tab and now that I've read your review I want to buy it even more. But I have a question where did you bought it please ? I've founded it on many sites but I don't know any reliable sites where to buy it. I would be very pleased if you could tell me where you bought it. Thanks
Ramir0u said:
Hello,
Nice review thanks I wanted to buy this tab and now that I've read your review I want to buy it even more. But I have a question where did you bought it please ? I've founded it on many sites but I don't know any reliable sites where to buy it. I would be very pleased if you could tell me where you bought it. Thanks
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I am Chinese, so i nought it on TAOBAO. I guess there are also a lot of online shop for oversea buyers.
jupiter2012 said:
This review took me weeks to finish, why doesn't anybody care to read it?
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With the Power button at the back of the tablet, is it very often that you turn off your screen accidentally?
Just bought one... hope wifi problems wont happen to mine by the way thanx for the review
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darkest_lightning said:
Just bought one... hope wifi problems wont happen to mine by the way thanx for the review
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Does anyone know where can we update the firmware ?
I have seen some info that there is Android 4.2.2 for fatty2 but i can´t find the rom to download
In this link from their site says that fatty 2 has android 4.2.2 ...
www.aoicoo.com/en/ProShow.asp?id=40
but to download roms it goes to a chinese site:
http://soft.aoicoo.com/
Could someone from China please help cause i cant understand chinese ....
Regards,
butcher
The Chinese post office site finally says my tablet is send so i'm waiting for it now :laugh:
I did some google translate on the link you provided and came up with a download for the fatty 2 and the fatty 2 2gb version.
but it seems to me like the only language in the update is simplified chinese... hope it 's not
the home page with lots of firmware directions:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=nl&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http://soft.aoicoo.com/
the fatty 2 upgrade:
http://translate.googleusercontent....id=295&usg=ALkJrhjK0r_oqPfz-rvjutlU33jwZrd-yw
(downloading takes like forever, its half an hour now...)
hope this helps a bit.
let me know is if you update your firmware and have some other languages besides simplified chineese.
grtz
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just finished downloading the firmware and took a look inside the files with googletranslate.
looks like you can set it to English also.
readme file:
Fuzhou Rockchip Electronics Co., Ltd.
Unified production tools
User Instructions
2010-3-20
Document Revision History
The date of enactment Compiler version number / modify people modify the description Effective Date Remarks
1.0 2010-3-20 Cw edition
1.1 2010-10-12 LY increased error description
1.2 2011-06-28 LY configuration parameters to increase the data dial operation
1.3 2011-11-15 LY increased quickly check firmware mode
1.4 2012-03-02 LY increased common setup instructions
Directory
Overview 4
1 using the object 4
2 Component Overview 4
2.1 Tools directory structure 4
2.2 The configuration file used to set 4
2.2.1. Language Day 4
2.2.2. System section 5
2.2.3 Configuration 6 commonly used functions
3 Step 6 Use
3.1 modify the configuration file 6
3.2 Installing the Driver 7
3.3 firmware upgrade nine batches
3.3.1 Interface Introduction 9
3.3.2 Procedure 9
3.3.3 Error Messages Explained 9
4 Precautions 10
Outline
Unified production tools Rockchip Microelectronics Co., Ltd. is to improve customer productivity tools specifically developed . The tool is primarily used in factories in large quantities of the product firmware upgrade operation.
1 Using Objects
The need for large quantities of the product firmware upgrade factory.
2 Component Overview
2.1 Tools directory structure
config.ini
Tool configuration file that can be used to set the language and upgrade tools related properties , methods are detailed profile specific settings common settings .
Language
Language file storage directory , all currently supported language files are stored in this directory .
Log
Log storage directory , save the log normal upgrade process output and error information, log function can be modified in the configuration file to enable or disable items LOGFLAG recommended that you turn facilitate future error analysis.
RKBatchTool.exe
Production tools program
2.2 The configuration file used to set
Note: red for common setting items
2.2.1. Language Day
Kinds = 2 / / current number of tools to support all of the languages
Selected = 1 / / Specify the current tools used language
/ / Selected = 1 ( Chinese ); Selected = 2 ( English )
LangPath = Language \ / / language directory where the file
Lang1File = Chinese.ini / / Chinese language file
Lang1FontName = Arial / / Chinese language fonts
Lang1FontSize = 9 / / Chinese language font size
Lang1Tag = CHN / / Chinese language logo
Lang1CHNTitle = Chinese / / Chinese language selection Chinese display title
Lang1ENGTitle = Chinese / / English language selection Chinese display title
Lang2File = English.ini / / English language file
Lang2FontName = Arial / / English language fonts
Lang2FontSize = 9 / / English Language Font Size
Lang2Tag = ENG / / English language identification
Lang2CHNTitle = English / / Chinese language selection English Show Title
Lang2ENGTitle = English / / English Language selection English Show Title
2.2.2. System section
RKUSB_VID = 0x2207 / / RockUsb device VID, not set , venting can
RKUSB_PID = 0x290A / / RockUsb device PID,, do not set , venting can
MSC_VID = 0x0BB4 / / MSC device VID, not set , venting can
MSC_PID = 0x2910 / / MSC device PID, not set , venting can
FORCEFLAG = FALSE / / whether to adopt mandatory erasure, have not used
FORMATFLAG = TRUE / / if the user after the upgrade disc is formatted , format set TRUE , other values without formatting
DISKVOLUME = Rockchip / / formatted disk volume label for the specified user
COPYFLAG = TRUE / / upgrade directory or file is copied to the user's root directory , set TRUE copy, other values are not copied
DEFAULT_COPYDIR = / / copies the specified directory or file you want to copy the path
FORMATDATADISKFLAG = TRUE / / if the data after the upgrade disk is formatted , format set TRUE , other values without formatting
DATADISKVOLUME = Rockchip / / formatted disk volume label for the specified user
COPYDATADISKFLAG = TRUE / / upgrade directory or file is copied to the root directory of the data set TRUE copy, other values are not copied
DEFAULT_DATADISK_COPYPATH = / / copies the specified directory or file you want to copy the path
LOGFLAG = TRUE / / logging , set TRUE Enable logging , other values close the log function
SUPPORTLOWUSB = TRUE / / scan full speed usb device switch, set TRUE to scan Full speed usb device , other values are only scan high speed usb device
DEFAULT_FIRMWARE = / / default load firmware path , specify the default firmware path, the tool starts automatically when you open the default firmware
CHECK_MACHINE_MODEL = TRUE / / Firmware matching checking function ,
By setting CHECK_MACHINE_MODEL items, you can check before upgrading the firmware upgrade is allowed , permitted
Conditions to keep the value of the device firmware file MACHINE_MODEL parameter values match.
QUICK_CHECK_MODE = TRUE / / Quick check firmware switch is set to TRUE open the Quick checksum firmware functionality, but this feature is not complete parity there is a certain risk.
FW_VERSION_MODE = / / firmware version display format
DEC: Decimal display
Other: hexadecimal display
MISC_MODIFY_MODE = / / MISC partition to modify signs,
WIPE_ALL: erase userdata, cache and user area
WIPE_DATA: erase userdata and cache area
Other values are not modified by the original partition contents misc
MSC_WAITTIME = 30 / / Wait Msc device re-connection time ( unit: seconds )
RKUSB_WAITTIME = 20 / / Wait RockUsb device re-connection time ( unit: seconds )
2.2.3 configuration commonly used functions
Open Demo copy function:
Set FORMATFLAG = TRUE,
COPYFLAG = TRUE,
DISK_VOLUME = disk label
DEFAULT_COPYDIR = file or directory to be copied path
Android projects need to add a setting:
MISC_MODIFY_MODE = WIPE_DATA; prevent users after copying disk data recovery program to be erased
3 Use the procedure
modify the configuration file
Plug the device to be upgraded , if prompted to find new hardware , install the driver Rockusb
run the tool, select the firmware upgrade
3.1 modify the configuration file
Modify the configuration file , see the configuration file used to set
3.2 Installing the Driver
Before upgrading the firmware , turn off the player. Press and hold the upgrade button and simultaneously connect the device to a PC USB port. If you have not installed device drivers , it will pop up the following tips:
Select " Install from a list or specific location ( Advanced ) " and click Next.
Select the driver folder rockusb.sys
This completes installation of the USB device driver .
3.3 Batch firmware upgrade
3.3.1 Interface Introduction
3.3.2 Procedure
plug the device
Select the firmware
Verify that the device enters Rockusb state (Maskrom and Loader states belong Rock usb state )
upgrade or repair equipment
3.3.3 Error Messages Explained
" Failed to load configuration information can not be operated " because Config.ini file loading error , you can get from a publisher file to replace the correct Config.ini
" Failed to load firmware , you can not operate ! " No choice because the firmware or the firmware can not be read correctly lead , make sure that the firmware is correct
" other operations are running , please wait ! " As other operations currently in progress , please wait until the other end of the operation then
" device not found , unable to operate ! " Please confirm whether the device is connected, or whether Rockusb state
" creation process fails, you can not operate ! " Please restart the program before proceeding
" object create operation fails, you can not operate ! " Please restart the program , and then when the line operation
" does not support this type of equipment can not be operated ! " Please confirm whether the device into the Rock usb state , if the current state of the U disk , first switch before doing so
4 Precautions
batch upgrade multiple devices connected to the same HUB best on while upgrading equipment should not exceed four .
modify the configuration file , you need to re-run production tools
use of production tools , do not open other upgrades
production tools in the production process to the device automatically generates a UID unique code , the only code you need to ensure reliable, please use a computer equipped with a card production tools .
When Boot firmware version update , we recommend using the repair function to do the upgrade .
darkest_lightning said:
The Chinese post office site finally says my tablet is send so i'm waiting for it now :laugh:
I did some google translate on the link you provided and came up with a download for the fatty 2 and the fatty 2 2gb version.
but it seems to me like the only language in the update is simplified chinese... hope it 's not
the home page with lots of firmware directions:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=nl&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http://soft.aoicoo.com/
the fatty 2 upgrade:
http://translate.googleusercontent....id=295&usg=ALkJrhjK0r_oqPfz-rvjutlU33jwZrd-yw
(downloading takes like forever, its half an hour now...)
hope this helps a bit.
let me know is if you update your firmware and have some other languages besides simplified chineese.
grtz
---------- Post added at 08:03 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:15 PM ----------
just finished downloading the firmware and took a look inside the files with googletranslate.
looks like you can set it to English also.
readme file:
Fuzhou Rockchip Electronics Co., Ltd.
Unified production tools
User Instructions
2010-3-20
Document Revision History
The date of enactment Compiler version number / modify people modify the description Effective Date Remarks
1.0 2010-3-20 Cw edition
1.1 2010-10-12 LY increased error description
1.2 2011-06-28 LY configuration parameters to increase the data dial operation
1.3 2011-11-15 LY increased quickly check firmware mode
1.4 2012-03-02 LY increased common setup instructions
Directory
Overview 4
1 using the object 4
2 Component Overview 4
2.1 Tools directory structure 4
2.2 The configuration file used to set 4
2.2.1. Language Day 4
2.2.2. System section 5
2.2.3 Configuration 6 commonly used functions
3 Step 6 Use
3.1 modify the configuration file 6
3.2 Installing the Driver 7
3.3 firmware upgrade nine batches
3.3.1 Interface Introduction 9
3.3.2 Procedure 9
3.3.3 Error Messages Explained 9
4 Precautions 10
Outline
Unified production tools Rockchip Microelectronics Co., Ltd. is to improve customer productivity tools specifically developed . The tool is primarily used in factories in large quantities of the product firmware upgrade operation.
1 Using Objects
The need for large quantities of the product firmware upgrade factory.
2 Component Overview
2.1 Tools directory structure
config.ini
Tool configuration file that can be used to set the language and upgrade tools related properties , methods are detailed profile specific settings common settings .
Language
Language file storage directory , all currently supported language files are stored in this directory .
Log
Log storage directory , save the log normal upgrade process output and error information, log function can be modified in the configuration file to enable or disable items LOGFLAG recommended that you turn facilitate future error analysis.
RKBatchTool.exe
Production tools program
2.2 The configuration file used to set
Note: red for common setting items
2.2.1. Language Day
Kinds = 2 / / current number of tools to support all of the languages
Selected = 1 / / Specify the current tools used language
/ / Selected = 1 ( Chinese ); Selected = 2 ( English )
LangPath = Language \ / / language directory where the file
Lang1File = Chinese.ini / / Chinese language file
Lang1FontName = Arial / / Chinese language fonts
Lang1FontSize = 9 / / Chinese language font size
Lang1Tag = CHN / / Chinese language logo
Lang1CHNTitle = Chinese / / Chinese language selection Chinese display title
Lang1ENGTitle = Chinese / / English language selection Chinese display title
Lang2File = English.ini / / English language file
Lang2FontName = Arial / / English language fonts
Lang2FontSize = 9 / / English Language Font Size
Lang2Tag = ENG / / English language identification
Lang2CHNTitle = English / / Chinese language selection English Show Title
Lang2ENGTitle = English / / English Language selection English Show Title
2.2.2. System section
RKUSB_VID = 0x2207 / / RockUsb device VID, not set , venting can
RKUSB_PID = 0x290A / / RockUsb device PID,, do not set , venting can
MSC_VID = 0x0BB4 / / MSC device VID, not set , venting can
MSC_PID = 0x2910 / / MSC device PID, not set , venting can
FORCEFLAG = FALSE / / whether to adopt mandatory erasure, have not used
FORMATFLAG = TRUE / / if the user after the upgrade disc is formatted , format set TRUE , other values without formatting
DISKVOLUME = Rockchip / / formatted disk volume label for the specified user
COPYFLAG = TRUE / / upgrade directory or file is copied to the user's root directory , set TRUE copy, other values are not copied
DEFAULT_COPYDIR = / / copies the specified directory or file you want to copy the path
FORMATDATADISKFLAG = TRUE / / if the data after the upgrade disk is formatted , format set TRUE , other values without formatting
DATADISKVOLUME = Rockchip / / formatted disk volume label for the specified user
COPYDATADISKFLAG = TRUE / / upgrade directory or file is copied to the root directory of the data set TRUE copy, other values are not copied
DEFAULT_DATADISK_COPYPATH = / / copies the specified directory or file you want to copy the path
LOGFLAG = TRUE / / logging , set TRUE Enable logging , other values close the log function
SUPPORTLOWUSB = TRUE / / scan full speed usb device switch, set TRUE to scan Full speed usb device , other values are only scan high speed usb device
DEFAULT_FIRMWARE = / / default load firmware path , specify the default firmware path, the tool starts automatically when you open the default firmware
CHECK_MACHINE_MODEL = TRUE / / Firmware matching checking function ,
By setting CHECK_MACHINE_MODEL items, you can check before upgrading the firmware upgrade is allowed , permitted
Conditions to keep the value of the device firmware file MACHINE_MODEL parameter values match.
QUICK_CHECK_MODE = TRUE / / Quick check firmware switch is set to TRUE open the Quick checksum firmware functionality, but this feature is not complete parity there is a certain risk.
FW_VERSION_MODE = / / firmware version display format
DEC: Decimal display
Other: hexadecimal display
MISC_MODIFY_MODE = / / MISC partition to modify signs,
WIPE_ALL: erase userdata, cache and user area
WIPE_DATA: erase userdata and cache area
Other values are not modified by the original partition contents misc
MSC_WAITTIME = 30 / / Wait Msc device re-connection time ( unit: seconds )
RKUSB_WAITTIME = 20 / / Wait RockUsb device re-connection time ( unit: seconds )
2.2.3 configuration commonly used functions
Open Demo copy function:
Set FORMATFLAG = TRUE,
COPYFLAG = TRUE,
DISK_VOLUME = disk label
DEFAULT_COPYDIR = file or directory to be copied path
Android projects need to add a setting:
MISC_MODIFY_MODE = WIPE_DATA; prevent users after copying disk data recovery program to be erased
3 Use the procedure
modify the configuration file
Plug the device to be upgraded , if prompted to find new hardware , install the driver Rockusb
run the tool, select the firmware upgrade
3.1 modify the configuration file
Modify the configuration file , see the configuration file used to set
3.2 Installing the Driver
Before upgrading the firmware , turn off the player. Press and hold the upgrade button and simultaneously connect the device to a PC USB port. If you have not installed device drivers , it will pop up the following tips:
Select " Install from a list or specific location ( Advanced ) " and click Next.
Select the driver folder rockusb.sys
This completes installation of the USB device driver .
3.3 Batch firmware upgrade
3.3.1 Interface Introduction
3.3.2 Procedure
plug the device
Select the firmware
Verify that the device enters Rockusb state (Maskrom and Loader states belong Rock usb state )
upgrade or repair equipment
3.3.3 Error Messages Explained
" Failed to load configuration information can not be operated " because Config.ini file loading error , you can get from a publisher file to replace the correct Config.ini
" Failed to load firmware , you can not operate ! " No choice because the firmware or the firmware can not be read correctly lead , make sure that the firmware is correct
" other operations are running , please wait ! " As other operations currently in progress , please wait until the other end of the operation then
" device not found , unable to operate ! " Please confirm whether the device is connected, or whether Rockusb state
" creation process fails, you can not operate ! " Please restart the program before proceeding
" object create operation fails, you can not operate ! " Please restart the program , and then when the line operation
" does not support this type of equipment can not be operated ! " Please confirm whether the device into the Rock usb state , if the current state of the U disk , first switch before doing so
4 Precautions
batch upgrade multiple devices connected to the same HUB best on while upgrading equipment should not exceed four .
modify the configuration file , you need to re-run production tools
use of production tools , do not open other upgrades
production tools in the production process to the device automatically generates a UID unique code , the only code you need to ensure reliable, please use a computer equipped with a card production tools .
When Boot firmware version update , we recommend using the repair function to do the upgrade .
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Hello darkest_lightning
Thanks for your awnser.
But one problem still resides. where is the Android 4.2.2 because the firmware version of Fatty 2 and Fatty 2 2G are of Android 4.1.1 ...
Maybe it´s bull**** of them in the english site that the fatty 2 can have Android 4.2.2
But many thanks for your post
Regards butcher
Got my fatty yesterday... must say i'm pretty pleased with it. It's fast, wifi s good, comes in english, nice screen and fully charged i used it for 3-4h and still has 65% battery left. There are some chinese apps and market on but you can hide them so they wont bother. Didnt do the firmware update yet but everything seems working well for now
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda app-developers app
Article too long, I only saw a few pictures.
darkest_lightning said:
Got my fatty yesterday... must say i'm pretty pleased with it. It's fast, wifi s good, comes in english, nice screen and fully charged i used it for 3-4h and still has 65% battery left. There are some chinese apps and market on but you can hide them so they wont bother. Didnt do the firmware update yet but everything seems working well for now
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda app-developers app
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darkest_lightning it comes with 4.1 ? or 4.2 ?
Regards,
Butcher
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darkest_lightning it comes with 4.1 ? or 4.2 ?
Regards,
Butcher
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Hi,
Butcher looks like it's 4.2.2
Grtz
darkest_lightning said:
Hi,
Butcher looks like it's 4.2.2
Grtz
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Hi darkest_lightning
Well i think they let out the firmware of 4.2.2 because i downloaded this firmware from soft.aoicoo.com:
I installed one of this LOL don´t know witch one ...
2013-10-11 › [F 系列升级固件]Fatty2 多视窗软件363
2013-10-11 › [F 系列升级固件]Fatty2 多视窗软件362
and it is Android 4.2.2
Very nice by ICOO released the new firmware and it looks like 4.1.1 because surfing the net is smooth like hell
Regards,
Butcher
[REVIEW] Phablet/Console Much i5 (5" Quad-Core)
Note
Due to the limitations of this forum, i cannot put the full version of the review. THIS IS NOT THE FULL REVIEW ARTICLE
For the complete version of this review visit my blog .
Package contents(Unboxing y full description of the package contents)
When the package is opened, we found the following elements that, i understand, are part of any standard shipment for this product.
Much i5 Device
Quick guide
Guarantee sheet
MicroUSB cable
USB Wall charger
3550 mAh Battery
Serial number sticker
About first impression
My first impression of the device was so good. I really feel that the device materials and quality is distinct that other devices i tested.
There is lots of details that make a difference, from the device design, or the software included, or the customization made on the system, etc.
The first time you boot the device, you get a screen to register an iMuch account. This is not required really, but you can do these steps to gain access for Much services (note: most in chinese). In my tests, i remove my Much account, and i can use the device without problems.
(First boot)
There is a icon called Much Helper, that really is a quick guide to use the device, that is so interesting and helpful (this come in english), and show you in short steps the main features of the device and how to use.
Is really nice get a device like this that manufacturer take care about heir users, and provide ways to get familiar and comfortable with the device like this (and in english, a common language).
Another thing that i get may attention is that this device come with no much bloatware, and the games listed are to download from the google playstore (instead of a separated store with software from a non clear origin)
Most of this games are free, or demo versions.(and i thanks for it, because the system come with no unecessary software pre-installed)
Product information
According with the manufacturer, or searching info on web pages, we can found many sources of information about the device and sometimes these information may be not consistent (may be different from one web page to other), and this may cause some confusion for anybody that wants to get info about this product.
On this section i will post the info i get from the manufacturer (or is not possible, the web page that i consider more reliable), listing only the relevant points for a tech analysis of the product, and omit these points that don´t get any relevant info about the device (as many time we found on many pages, things such video capabilities, mail capabilities, etc, that really are software based features that we can install on the device, and not a real feature of the device itself)
CPU(RAM): MTK6589 quad-core 1.2GHz Cortex A7
GPU: PowerVR Series 544
RAM: 1G RAM LPDDR2
Internal: 4GB ROM
Screen size: 5"
Screen resolution: 1280x720
Screen Type: IPS Panel, Multitouch 5 points
Operating System: Android4.2 (Much Launcher)
Storage: MicroSD(TF) support 64GB storage expand maximum
Sensor: Nine-axis sensing (gyroscope, electronic compass, and gravity sensing), and light-sensitive sensing, close up sensing
Camera: Main camera of 8 MPx, digital zoom, auto focus, microspur support, Flash LED. Front camera of 0.3 MPx;
Network Function: support WCDMA 850M/2100M GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHZ, HSUPA(high speed uplink):up to 11.5 Mbps,HSDPA+( high speed downlink):up to 42.2 Mbps
Wifi: 802.11b/g/n
bluetooth: V4.0LE +EDR
GPS: with AGPS support
Buttons: 4 action buttons, 2 Shoulder buttons, 2 special buttons (configurable), DPAD and 2 analog sticks.
Video Play: Hardware decoding, maximum resolution up to 1280x720P, H.264, MPEG4, MPEG2, VC-1, H.263
Audio System: D-class amplifier , AAC speaker (2x0.5w)
Power Supply: 3550mAh Lithium battery
Charge: dual interface charge, (Bottom) Micro USB charge interface 1A charge, (Top) Micro USB charge interface 500mA charge maximum.
TV-Out: Mini HDMI interface (support 1080P)
USB: MicroUSB OTG 2.0
Dual standard SIM card(WCDMA/GSM) + MicroSD(TF) card
size: 184.0x88.0x14.7mm
Antutu X Benchmark
Summary:
RAM Operation: 1089
RAM Speed: 502
CPU integer: 1819
CPU float-point: 1242
2D graphics: [720x1280] 646
3D graphics: [720x1280] 3294
Storage I/O: 832
Database I/O: 515
CPU frequency: 1209 MHz (x4)
Multitask: 2661
Dalvik: 780
Total: 13380
ClockWorkMod Recovery (Custom Recovery)
Android have a special mode called Recovery, that is used many times to recover the device if this have problems to run properly, but there exist an alternative Custom Recovery that add a lot of new functionality and tools, and one of the most popular is one called ClockWorkMod Recovery.
There is a full functional version of this recovery that run on this device.
One of the most important features of this custom recovery, is the NANDROID generation, a way to generate a full backup of the nand (where the operating system resides) to a directory, and can be used as a recovery point for the device in case of semi-brick, or simply if you want to get a clean firmware on it.
Take note that this backup (nandroid) is a image of the NAND, this means, there will be stored all your configs, users, passwords, accounts, etc. Is a good idea to get a clean firmware insatlled on the device, and install and configure all your base programs (file admins, cloud services, google account, etc) and then get a nandroid for your personal use. When you get back to this image/backup, you will get a clean and configured system, saving lot of time on basic configurations and installing basic software.
The installation of CWM on this device is easy. For this, i follow the next thread on XDA forum:
How to install CWM on most rooted mtk devices
This method is based on Rua1 tool (a russian guy that develop a specific MTK took), and i will try to explay step by step.
First, you need the drivers ADB installed on the system. If you don´t get yet, then download and install PDANet (for windows, there is the 4.12 installer).
Then install PDANet, and when the program ask for connecting the device (USB), connect your Much.
Program will install drivers (if ask to you, select "other manufacturer" for generic drivers)
When you get installed this program, then go and download "MTK Droid Root & Tools | MediaTek Android Smartphone" ver 2.4.8 (from this thread on XDA)
Run the program. If the antivirus or firewall warning about a unknown thread, ignore it.
The program will run adb and connect with your device. No matter if you set root for ADB and Apps in System Settings, the program will inform that the device is not fully rooted. (there is a yellow rectangle)
Press ROOT button.
When finished, the rectangle will be green
(I will do a copy paste from XDA thread, because is well explained what you must to do)
Click on the tab 'root,backup,recovery' and select 'to use boot from phone' then click on 'recovery and boot' and shortly after a dialogue box will appear asking if you want to 'make cwm recovery automatically' click yes
System start to generate the CWM version.
Is possible that the tool show a dialog with a warning "ATENTION! There is a probability to damage the boot block!". Select "Yes"
Android Games
Asphalt 8: Airborne
(Using Tincore to control the game)
Jet Set Radio
Bard´s Tale
Dead Trigger
N.o.v.a. 3
Using HDMI TV Out, External controller (PXN8633 Wireless controller with USB receiver) and Tincore to map the controller to screen.
Modern Combat 4: Zero Hour
Using HDMI TV Out, External controller (PXN8633), and Tincore for mapping.
Ravensword
Grand Theft Auto Vice CityUsing External Controller and Tincore for mapping.
DraStic (Nintendo DS)
Zelda Phantom Hourglass
PPSSPP (Playstation Portable PSP)
Lego Indiana Jones 2
Mame4Droid Reloaded (Arcades)
Garou: Mark of Wolves
Marvel vs Capcom
Retroarch
Arcade (MAME) - Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3
PSX - Tekken 3
N64Oid (Nintendo 64)
Bad Fur Day
(Gameplay)
About Battery
Some words i must to say about this point. This device is the first handheld gaming console that i forgive to take care constantly about battery level. In fact, using as a normal smartphone and as a gaming console, is a heavy use for me, more than my normal smartphone (i like to use a Motorola Razr), and my phone, only as phone, battery is not longer than Much device.
I don´t know how many hours it can be working, but i´m sure is enough for most of users that want a good duration.
Check the following screenshots:
These 3 screenshots was taken when i get in home, in night (well, really when i remember to take these screenshots)
The most important of these screenshots, are that the device was working as normal usage, with WIFI enabled, one SIM card enabled, and most time (when i´m in train or bus) with Bluetooth enabled (for bluetooth audio), with all normal options for a smartphone standard enabled (GPS, Vibration, etc), and most important, playing normally, and the battery, well, you can see the images. For this reason i can mention that i forgot to check constantly the battery level, to calculating how many time i can play, or anything.
And of course, the battery is replaceable, then if you really need more battery duration, simply buy another battery pack, and carry with you to replace when you go out of power.
Final words
Apologize for the mistakes i did writing in english. As many of you know, this is not my natural language, but i did my best to try to bring to you a readable and understandable article that, sincerely, i hope is useful.
And remember this is not a full article review. It is only a Summary.
Zalu2!
Deen0X
re-install MUCH I5
Hello,
I have one Much I5. This device was bricked somehow and I need to re-install it. I made all the instruction on your blog but after pressing Vol- android screen suddenly disappear and I can only see ireadygo screen and I could not do anything else. Could you help me to re-install this device may be from pc ?
Thank you & best regards,