Looking to get a nVidia Shield K1, have a lot of questions... - Shield Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I think this is what I'd like to get to replace my Nexus 7 (2013) but have some questions before buying.
1. Does anyone play Hearthstone on this? It lags like crazy on my N7.
2. Does the Shield have any touch screen issues? My N7 has the grounding issues, so touch when it is say on a table instead of in-hand is sketchy at best. Do NOT want a repeat of that problem.
3. Does the Shield allow for OTG interactions? Specifically I have a Fiio DAC that I use with my N7 and my Droid Turbo that I'd like to use to power my headphones.
4. What is the battery life like? I assume in game its still pretty short? No wireless charging on this I assume.
5. Are the cover and pen worth getting? The pen does not have a hover dot tracker like a Wacom tablet or the S-pen, correct?
6. Can a DualShock 3/4 be paired with the Shield? Maybe using Sixaxis from the play store?
7. Can apps be installed to the SDcard? 16gb seems quite small if you install a lot of games.
That's all I can think of right now, thanks for any help!

Coronado is dead said:
So I think this is what I'd like to get to replace my Nexus 7 (2013) but have some questions before buying.
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1. I Don't play Hearthstone, but I doubt you'd have any issues playing it on this Tab, it excels at gaming.
2. Haven't heard of any touch issues with the K1. I have the older Shield Tab and touchscreen is fine.
3. Haven't had any issue with OTG use. I've only tested a USB thumb drive and a USB keyboard - they both work fine.
4. Battery life really depends on what you do, the tab definitely drains if you're gaming. I think the new Marshmallow update has helped with idle battery life. There is the Performance/Power optimization settings that you can toggle. The tablet is not known for having amazing battery life, unfortunately.
5. The cover is a good buy. It has a strong magnetic pull that keeps it angled and its awesome to set it down and just watch something on a train, plane or even a counter. The cover also has auto wake/sleep. It does not do much beyond that besides being pricey. The stylus isn't anything special, other than having a finer tip than most capacitive stylus out there. If you don't plan to use it much, not worth getting especially now that the K1 has no slot to store it (you'll likely lose it). Buying the stylus really depends on your use case scenario.
6. You can pair PS3 DS controllers via sixaxis. I have paired mine before. Likely PS4 controller would work.
7. The tab supports moving apps to SD and the marshmallow update also has the ability to adopt your SD card for use. I don't use apps on my sdcard so i cant comment much, but I see people mentioning it all the time on the forums.

Coronado is dead said:
So I think this is what I'd like to get to replace my Nexus 7 (2013) but have some questions before buying.
1. Does anyone play Hearthstone on this? It lags like crazy on my N7.
2. Does the Shield have any touch screen issues? My N7 has the grounding issues, so touch when it is say on a table instead of in-hand is sketchy at best. Do NOT want a repeat of that problem.
3. Does the Shield allow for OTG interactions? Specifically I have a Fiio DAC that I use with my N7 and my Droid Turbo that I'd like to use to power my headphones.
4. What is the battery life like? I assume in game its still pretty short? No wireless charging on this I assume.
5. Are the cover and pen worth getting? The pen does not have a hover dot tracker like a Wacom tablet or the S-pen, correct?
6. Can a DualShock 3/4 be paired with the Shield? Maybe using Sixaxis from the play store?
7. Can apps be installed to the SDcard? 16gb seems quite small if you install a lot of games.
That's all I can think of right now, thanks for any help!
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Hi!
I have a SHIELD Tablet K1 since 2 weeks, I can reply to some questions (some answer from @Gilbot are more precise):
1. Hearthstone works good on this tablet. It is not ran at 60fps, seems to have a 30fps framerate locked, but very stable.
2. I have only one screen touch issue : when plugged to my wall charger (5V - 2.4A), the screen touch isn't responsive. Otherwise, it's ok.
3. I use un OTG adapter to plug my wired Xbox 360 controller, and it works great.
4. The SHIELD Tablet has not wireless charging. For the battery, without gaming, you can have a SoT between 4-5hrs, more with optimisation and maybe a custom kernel.
5. I haven't the NVIDIA pen. But for the official cover, I can say that it's a good cover, very useful.
6. I have read that the Dualshock 4 can be paired simply by bluetooth with touching 3 boutons on the controller. For the Dualshock 3, you need Sixaxis.
7. With the Marshmallow update, you can use youd SD Card as a internal memory. So, your apps can be installed directly on this.

Thanks for the help guys, still unsure. Just seems weird buying years old internals and having it be the fastest out there.

It's definitely fast. They did good. For the money it's great. It competes with tablets 2x it's price and wins. The speakers are really good too.
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How did you get your PS4 to connect via Bluetooth? I'm still trying to figure this out.
Elpatii said:
Hi!
I have a SHIELD Tablet K1 since 2 weeks, I can reply to some questions (some answer from @Gilbot are more precise):
1. Hearthstone works good on this tablet. It is not ran at 60fps, seems to have a 30fps framerate locked, but very stable.
2. I have only one screen touch issue : when plugged to my wall charger (5V - 2.4A), the screen touch isn't responsive. Otherwise, it's ok.
3. I use un OTG adapter to plug my wired Xbox 360 controller, and it works great.
4. The SHIELD Tablet has not wireless charging. For the battery, without gaming, you can have a SoT between 4-5hrs, more with optimisation and maybe a custom kernel.
5. I haven't the NVIDIA pen. But for the official cover, I can say that it's a good cover, very useful.
6. I have read that the Dualshock 4 can be paired simply by bluetooth with touching 3 boutons on the controller. For the Dualshock 3, you need Sixaxis.
7. With the Marshmallow update, you can use youd SD Card as a internal memory. So, your apps can be installed directly on this.
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Have had the tab for about 2 days, my n7 2013 usb port was starting to give so it was time, came with 5.1.1 out of the box, updated to MM, its been a great tab so far.
1. Hearthstone is stable, you won't lag with the k1 gpu running games.
2. The touchscreen is responsive as any out on the market as long as its off a charger or hooked up to a charger that has specs close to stock: Output: 5.2v @ 2.1A If you choose to use a charger that isnt close to spec then you will have touchscreen issues (I myself noticed it the first day)
3. OTG works out of the box on stock kernel.
4. No wireless charging as stated before.
5. Can't comment didnt purchase the stylus
6. You can use both a DS3 and 4, not sure if you can by default pair a DS4 without Six Axis (got rid of my PS4 a few months back) as for the DS3 you can use the DS3 over OTG and with the Six Axis app running. In MM six axis will not be able to access BT due the permission changes in MM (the dev of six axis must update). Ive been using the DS3 over otg while keeping Six Axis running (in settings make sure to enable Gamepad in Gamepad Settings section also u must change the master id of the ds3 with six axis pair tool to match the tab bt address) so far the controller has worked in Never Alone, Walking Dead, and Game of Thrones, personally I will be buying the Shield controller but if you dont need to charge the tab while gaming you can use a DS3 over otg, there are other options but none are as elegant as Nvidia's own product. Also buying a new DS4 if u dont already have one is essentially the same price as a Shield Controller.
7. Lastly with MM you can choose to adopt your MicroSD as internal storage, however doing so comes with some caveats. You lose the ability to use the MicroSD on other devices as MM formats the drive as a 128 bit encrypted ext4 disk, any data u already have on the MicroSD gets erased when you do this. Also once you do this the MicroSD essentially becomes nonremoveable as it becomes the default storage for your device. You also lose the ability to access your internal storage. You can in the settings move apps back and forth between the two, but access to the internal storage via USB connection or File Explorer is lost until you revert the MicroSD to portable storage, again doing this means you lose data on your microSD. The other option would be if you root to install App2SD and get a 64-200gb MicroSD and use the app to create a 2nd partition on the MicroSD and migrate and link your Apps and Games Data via App2SD. This option retains your internal SD access, you then have 1 partition to be able to move your apps/game data, and 1 partition that can be read by any device for movies/music/photos.

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Advent Tegra Note Connectivity Info

Hey everybody,
I bought an Advent Tegra Note a couple of days ago. I always connect my devices to a TV at some point but there wasn't too much infomartion out there about the Tegra Note before I got my hands on it so I just wanted to put some info out there for people who might be interested.
The Note has both micro USB and Micro HDMI ports so I bought a micro HDMI to HDMI cable to test out a few things with it connected to a TV. I've used MHL a lot in the past so I'm not sure whether or not some of what follows is specific to the Tegra Note or applies to any tablet with both HDMI and USB ports.
HDMI to TV:
When you plug the HDMI cable into the Note it automatically kicks the display into landscape so you don't need to worry about the orreientation of the tablet itself.
Sound output seems to be at line-out level. It sounds great if you happen to have your TV plugged into a HiFi, but it does mean you can't alter the volume on the Note itself while it's plugged in.
In my experience, when you plug a phone into a TV via an MHL adapter it seems to really load the hardware which has a negative impact on performance. I don't know if it's because the Tegra 4 inside the Note is so powerful or if it's a feature of having a separate HDMI output, but there's no noticeable slow down at all. By way of example, when I ran Epic Citadel with ultra high settings in benchmark mode, it still achieved 59 fps. Web browsing was flawless too with very smooth performance.
I should probably point out that I was testing this on a 720p TV, not full HD.
USB On-the-Go
With a small OTG adapter plugged into the micro USB port I tried plugging in a wireless keyboard and mouse and it works perfectly (bear in mind if you have a UK QWERTY keyboard some symbols are in the 'wrong' place which is bit stupid for a device being sold in the UK). Next up I tried a bus powered 80GB hard drive and this also worked fine. Finally I tried a mains powered USB hub with the keyboard and hard drive plugged into it and that also works properly too. The tablet appeared to be drawing charge from the USB hub.
Simultaneous HDMI and USB OTG
At first this didn't work at all, but I found if I plugged the USB OTG adapter into the tablet first, then the HDMI cable, everything worked fine. In this setup it really is like a little media pc - it performs very well indeed.
I also tried using a small bluetooth keyboard with trackball mouse with it and that works too. I haven't tried a controller yet. I've read elsewhere that Six Axis Controller won't work with it which is a real shame, but there you go.
Apart from the rather creamy/yellow colour tint to the screen on the Tegra Note, it really is an awesome little device. 35,000 points in Antutu for $200? Awesome!
If you're in the UK and you're frustrated by the lack of UK QWERTY keyboard layout ( no £ symbol etc) you can use the Median External keyboard app from the Play store without root. This will add a UK layout under the hardware keyboard settings area under the 'Language and Input' menu. Hint, you have to connect the keyboard to get the hardware keyboard menu to appear in the input menu.
UPDATE: After the official OTA update to 4.3 I noticed a few things:
It is no longer necessary for users to download the Medion External keyboard app to get access to a UK QWERTY hardware layout. Under the input settings menu there is now an option to select a UK Android PC keyboard layout. On both my bluetooth and wireless desktop keyboards, the internet explorer shortcut key works as the Home button. Regrettably the auto correct options for hadware keyboards still don't work.
Unfortunately bluetooth is even worse than under the original or updated 4.2.2 ROM. When steaming via A2DP there are regular dropouts and reconnecting paired devices such a Moga Pro gamepad repeatedly fails at times. A factory reset didn't help.
When trying to disconnect an external HDD in the Settings/Storage menu, not only does the USB drive get unmounted, the MicroSD card stops working. The capacity and free space and of the MicroSD card will read as zero after the external drive has been disconnected. Restarting the Note (or remounting the SD card) will fix the problem, though for me the Gallery and Google Music apps became corrupted and I had to clear the data in Media Storage, Gallery and Music apps and reboot to get things working again. This bug was not present before.
I've also been playing with an Justop EZCast dongle that I bought from a reseller on Amazon. Results are very mixed. In EZCast mode pictures are streamed to the dongle very well. Videos are really hit and miss. Some stream flawlessly while others stutter to the point of being unwatchable. In EZMirror mode where the whole of the tablet's screen is mirrored on the TV results also vary. Music streaming sounds good but there are often dropouts and 'pops' and 'sqeaks' every so often that are really annoying. Also, altering the volume on the tablet does not change the volume on the dongle (whereas it does if you stream from a Galaxy Tab 3 8.0). Streaming films is also problematic in that there are periodic interruptions that are really annoying. Finally, if you connect to a wireless access point while in EZMirror mode you can mirror your browser etc to the TV which opens up a range of possibilities. You can even mirror writing on the screen to a TV so the Note would make an interesting presentation device in various scenarios. Gaming is not recommended as there is latency of about a quarter of a second. In short, when the dongle works it's great, but for now it is flawed and I wouldn't recommend one. I'm not sure whether future firmware updates will improve the dongle, but I suspect its internal hardware isn't powerful enough, especially for HD content.
I've not noticed a yellow tinge to mine, im pretty impressed especially at currys current 130 quite price!
Was going to get a micro hdmi adapter at some point, I'd like the slide cover, but that seems non existent in the uk
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fards said:
I've not noticed a yellow tinge to mine, im pretty impressed especially at currys current 130 quite price!
Was going to get acreamy and yellow hdmi adapter at some point, I'd like the slide cover, but that seems non existent in thintermittent fault. from my C6603 using Tapatalk
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I think maybe it's because I'm used to to Super LCD screens. If you put one beside the Note and look at the gmail and Play icons they look a little creamy and yellow. Next to a 2013 Nexus 7 it looks awful, but now Currys have dropped the price to £99, who cares?
You need an Micro HDMI plug not a Mini HDMI plug as I found out last week. I bought mine from an Amazon reseller for about £2. Asda sell them in store for £6-9 dependent upon brand from memory.
Make sure your headphone jack works properly, mine had an intermittent fault.
If you bought your Note in the last seven days you may be able to get Currys to refund the difference, especially if you ordered online.
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If you bought your Note in the last seven days you may be able to get Currys to refund the difference, especially if you ordered online.
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aye, I've heard, but not really sure its worth the effort of dealing with the robots at CS, as I did a click&collect
fards said:
aye, I've heard, but not really sure its worth the effort of dealing with the robots at CS, as I did a click&collect
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I felt the same way but I found a non 0844 contact number and gave it a shot. Allegedly the difference has been refunded onto my card, though I haven't checked yet. The number is 01594 332592 and it answers as Currys Know How. I should add that I paid online and had the Note delivered to store rather than Click and Collect (or whatever it is where you reserve then pay in store).
I have picked a UK Tegra Note up for 99 quid. Really is very quick and have found that enabling 4xMSAA in developer options doesn't degrade performance in gaming.
I picked up a 30 quid miracast box from Curry's. Miracast works okay, image quality is good, but sound can fall out of sync. However with only one WiFi channel you cannot use streaming services. Although you could always set up another android device as a Bluetooth tether connected to WiFi.
Anyone got an Apps to SD solution?
kHiTe said:
I have picked a UK Tegra Note up for 99 quid. Really is very quick and have found that enabling 4xMSAA in developer options doesn't degrade performance in gaming.
I picked up a 30 quid miracast box from Curry's. Miracast works okay, image quality is good, but sound can fall out of sync. However with only one WiFi channel you cannot use streaming services. Although you could always set up another android device as a Bluetooth tether connected to WiFi.
Anyone got an Apps to SD solution?
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Doh! I didn't realise Currys sold them - I just ordered one online from Amazon. Good point about the lack streaming services.
I only tried 4xMSAA in Modern Combat 3 and I couldn't see much difference in quality. Perhaps I'll try again. I'd love to be able to get rid of the colour banding in certain scenarios (colour crush) as it's very unattractive. Into the Dead is a good example.

Using Nexus 5 as gaming console

Hello,
right now I am a more or less pleased Note 3 user. The past days made me thinking about a switch to the Nexus 5. More and more reasons come up, mainly I don't use the Note features that often and I hate TouchWiz. I got my hands on a Nexus 5 and all I can say is that this phone is beautiful and blazing fast. Despite the obvious (smaller screen, no pen, smaller battery, etc) I want to ask you if the following works as good on the Nexus as it does on my Note 3.
I like to connect my phone via MHL to the TV and play games using a Dualshock3 controller in combination with the SixAxis app. Playing Asphalt8 my phone losses about 40% battery in about 2,5 hours (It's connected to a 1 amp. USB port of the TV). Games like Asphalt 8 run very smooth.
I know the Nexus doesn't use MHL but Slimport. And the SixAxis app should work, root implied.
Here are my questions.
1. Does Slimport suffer from a bigger latency than MHL?
2. Is the phone also charging on a Slimport connection? If so, same amount?
3. Is it possible to charge the Nexus via Slimport (if answer was yes on question 2) AND wireless at the same time?
4. Does the Nexus 5 support USB OTG (to pair the controller)?
Many thanks for your time.
Bjorn
This will help with your OTG question. https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/nexus/LJeoF7AK1zU/6ZyI9gQLjIsJ
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2505924
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIoCiIvztwE
this seems most helpful: http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-5/329303-does-nexus-5-support-usb-otg.html
thats all i have sorry.
dark_dude said:
3. Is it possible to charge the Nexus via Slimport (or USB) AND wireless at the same time?
Bjorn
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Thanks, this is the only questions that remains unanswered. Does anyone know?
It is possible to charge it while using Slimport, but that also can depend on which Slimport adapter do you have. I have some Chinese adapter with built-in USB cable, and it is working great...
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dark_dude said:
Thanks, this is the only questions that remains unanswered. Does anyone know?
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Wireless charging will not work at the same time as wired charging. Also charging while playing games can lead to significant heat.
I would hold out if I were you. As mentioned, charging and game play are going to cause heat.
There are rumours of Amazon releasing a dedicated android console so perhaps, waiting is a good idea.
Na, these consoles suck. At least the ones that are already there. My Note 3 is way better than every existing console. And I think the Nexus will be to.
Im not talking about existing ones. but sure, if you want to stop playing every hour to recharge, go ahead
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[Q] Note 4 HDMI In Input for Note 4/Oculus Support

Curious here. Does the Note 4 or any smartphone for that matter have an HDMI In option? In terms of plugging a blu ray player into the device to watch blu rays. Seeing if anyone knows the hardware capabilities of USB connectors on smartphones. Checked out the Note 4 with the Oculus and it looks nice. Would be nice to chill and watch movies in a nice dark environment it offers.
did you say you want to plug a bluray player into your note 4? why? watch the 1080p goodness on your tv at home... "buy" some digital copies for your phone
My thoughts are like yours. Pick up a slingbox and just open a browser on your glasses and you are set. If you are gaming there will be some lag time but if you step up to the $300 setup it's all hdmi 1080p
Bubbled said:
did you say you want to plug a bluray player into your note 4? why? watch the 1080p goodness on your tv at home... "buy" some digital copies for your phone
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ROBOHOLIC said:
My thoughts are like yours. Pick up a slingbox and just open a browser on your glasses and you are set. If you are gaming there will be some lag time but if you step up to the $300 setup it's all hdmi 1080p
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From a gear VR perspective, having HDMI in would be awesome. I can't possibly imagine wirelessly streaming a fast action game to the phone.
Wondering the same thing
Just finished up a DIY VR for my Note 4 and was wondering the same thing. If I could get an HDMI in from the PS4 + a player that can split the image into two on my screen I think I might be in heaven lol. I've been using it for mostly digital copies of videos, and it's pretty awesome. Hope someone comes through with an answer or a solution!
Thanks to all in advance.
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... Does the Note 4 or any smartphone for that matter have an HDMI In option? ...
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No. If you want to watch a Blu Ray, create an MKV or image, and use a player, such as BS Player, VLC, etc, and watch the file that way.
On side note, it makes no sense what you're asking other than just for the challenge of tinkering. You're either going to be home, so you can watch the blu ray on your blu ray player connected to your big tv or you're out and about, and thus are you really going to be bring a blu ray player with you? And there's no way, the phone is going to be able to power a portable usb blu ray drive; probably a DVD too. And I don't think you'll be able to get blu ray drive to work with a USB OTG cable even if you could managed to give the drive enough power to work because it'll probably need additional drivers that haven't been created. Plus, I don't think the microUSB port will have enough throughput.
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No. If you want to watch a Blu Ray, create an MKV or image, and use a player, such as BS Player, VLC, etc, and watch the file that way.
On side note, it makes no sense what you're asking other than just for the challenge of tinkering. You're either going to be home, so you can watch the blu ray on your blu ray player connected to your big tv or you're out and about, and thus are you really going to be bring a blu ray player with you? And there's no way, the phone is going to be able to power a portable usb blu ray drive; probably a DVD too. And I don't think you'll be able to get blu ray drive to work with a USB OTG cable even if you could managed to give the drive enough power to work because it'll probably need additional drivers that haven't been created. Plus, I don't think the microUSB port will have enough throughput.
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I've been looking for video-in on a mobile for some time now. Small high-res. screens are not cheap, and with old phones lying around...
I'm thinking more of FPV than blu-ray. It would be ideal to use my note 4 for a live video feed, and note 2 for telemetry. The less I have to carry around the better.
Has anyone got an answer for this post? I want to do the same.
I want to be able to plug it into my ps3.
Is it possible?
The Note 4 supports HDMI out via MHL, however not input.
Additionally, the Note 4 docks into the Gear VR via the microUSB port, acting as an input device via USB OTG. Unlike previous devices that could use USB and MHL at the same time and use accessories like this smart dock, the Note 4 can only do one or the other. My best guess is this has something to do with the Fast Charge controller and USB OTG and MHL not working at the same time, due to simultaneous power in/out.
Oddly enough, the S6 version of the Gear VR has a microUSB port on the bottom for charging, leading me to believe that Samsung found a solution. If I had to guess, it charges the "old" way while an accessory is plugged in, rather than using fast charging at the same time. Makes sense, honestly, since it would also reduce head, something that would impede performance in VR.
tl;dr: Note 4 only supports video IN, not out, plus the Gear VR uses the microUSB port.
Regarding the S6, however: I have access to an S6 and matching VR at work. I'll try it out and see if my guess is right.
I want to be able to plug it into my ps3.
I don't think the Note 4 or any other smartphone has the required video capture circuitry, unfortunately. You'll just have to settle for USB or wireless video streaming if a Rift stand-in is what you're looking for.
I've already been experimenting a bit with Trinus VR in the meantime, but I don't consider it really satisfactory as a Rift substitute. Guess I'm waiting for the CV1 next year.
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The Note 4 supports HDMI out via MHL, however not input.
Additionally, the Note 4 docks into the Gear VR via the microUSB port, acting as an input device via USB OTG. Unlike previous devices that could use USB and MHL at the same time and use accessories like this smart dock, the Note 4 can only do one or the other. My best guess is this has something to do with the Fast Charge controller and USB OTG and MHL not working at the same time, due to simultaneous power in/out.
Oddly enough, the S6 version of the Gear VR has a microUSB port on the bottom for charging, leading me to believe that Samsung found a solution. If I had to guess, it charges the "old" way while an accessory is plugged in, rather than using fast charging at the same time. Makes sense, honestly, since it would also reduce head, something that would impede performance in VR.
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I think the missing microUSB passthrough on the Note 4 Gear VR is just a design oversight with the Gear VR enclosure, one that could be corrected if someone were willing to break out a soldering iron and a cutting tool. I'd experiment with it myself, but I don't feel like doing irreversible mods to my Gear VR right now.
I doubt it's a USB OTG + MHL issue, considering that Samsung uses an 11-pin microUSB port precisely to get around that limitation that typical 5-pin MHL smartphones have. Look carefully toward the rear of the port, you'll see the extra pins dedicated to MHL.
I can't say I've tested one of those smart docks yet, though. I like the sound of them in theory, but the software still needs to adapt to a desktop experience on-the-fly, and Android just isn't built with that in mind right now.
Pi 2 hdmi screen?
Also interested in this but for use with a raspberry pi 2 model b with full hdmi. The crappy tft hats that are available don't give anywhere close to the resolution. Would be nice to work on code and other stuff while on the go.
I have a note 4 & a old note 2 so if this is possible with either please reply. Also I'm not opposed to taking the note 2 or an old Droid x apart to separate the screen and stock phone mobo if the screens can be connected with ribbon directly to the Pi 2

New Car Tablet --> OTG charge + PowerEvent Manager + Extended screen

Hi there,
I just found this awesome tablet as I planned to exchange my Nexus 7 2013 LTE as car device. I bought Timurs Kernel for this and it works awesome. Unfortunately GSM-calls are not possible with the Nexus.
This flaw is gone with the Huawei tablet. It has a better CPU and Memory performance either. LTE Dual-Sim is also awesome.
Is it possible to port the kernel feature OTG + simultaneously charging combined with a PowerEvent Manager which puts the tablet in Deep Sleep Mode if Power drops and wakes it up when power is available again?
I think there is no chance to attach a 2nd screen via wire, isn't it? I also planned to extend the screen to a 5" Display in my upper car dashboard, but it's very hard to find 5" chrome/miracast displays. Perhaps somebody has a solution for this? I already tried to attach a HDMI chromecast to 5" HDMI Raspberry display, but there are big black stripes on the right and left sides so there are scaling issues I cannot influence.
Which steps would be necessary to get this features working?
Thanks for your thoughts.
Greetings
Schwimmbuxx.
No one interested in car media revolution?
From what I have read about the specs on this device, it has no NFC functionality so no wireless charging android pay etc.
Those are features I never use although I can see NFC charging coming in handy if the micro usb slot gets damaged.
I too am looking at buying one of these to replace my Nexus 7 2nd gen (a hard device to replace) and my now 4 year old ascend y550, I pretty much carry them both all the time since the Nexus is the WiFi version I hot spot my phone to it.
I'm sure there are apps and skins that allow you to set power on/off with usb power, designed for exactly what you are doing.

ASUS ZenScreen GO MB16AP - Will it work with Dex?

https://www.asus.com/us/Monitors/MB16AP/
I'm thinking of getting the Zenscreen Go (when it's available) to work with Note 9's Dex mode since it can double as secondary screen for my laptop too when I need it. However, I'm not sure if it will actually work with the Note 9. Any ideas/comments?
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https://www.asus.com/us/Monitors/MB16AP/
I'm thinking of getting the Zenscreen Go (when it's available) to work with Note 9's Dex mode since it can double as secondary screen for my laptop too when I need it. However, I'm not sure if it will actually work with the Note 9. Any ideas/comments?
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I don't see why it won't work. Be cautious though for a battery drain, since the monitor uses USB-C for its power as well, instead of using (having) its own battery.
I'd recommend for you to get a HP Elite x3 Lap Dock instead if you meant to bring it out for "portability" (15.6 inch is not portable for me at all) if you plan to mainly using it with your phone. Just think of using your N9 as a bonus of getting it work with a laptop.
StardustGeass said:
I don't see why it won't work. Be cautious though for a battery drain, since the monitor uses USB-C for its power as well, instead of using (having) its own battery.
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The MB16AP has its own battery. The big question is when will it become available.
Yea, the screen has it's own battery. I know Dex works using USB C to HDMI, but I'm not sure if USB C to USB C will work with the Zenscreen or not.
I have considered the HP Lapdock but without the phone it is just deadweight. At least the Zenscreen can serve as a second display for my laptop so I'll be getting more utility out of it.
IsolatedAbyss said:
Yea, the screen has it's own battery. I know Dex works using USB C to HDMI, but I'm not sure if USB C to USB C will work with the Zenscreen or not.
I have considered the HP Lapdock but without the phone it is just deadweight. At least the Zenscreen can serve as a second display for my laptop so I'll be getting more utility out of it.
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USB C to C will work. I use an HP Elite Lap Dock with a USB C connector..
Regarding HP Lapdock, it is not. If you're using Note 9 with it, your phone will still functions as usual. The deadweight happens if you're using older DeX phone that doesn't support dual screen DeX.
*sorry the photo is unintentionally uploaded and i don't know how to delete it...
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*sorry the photo is unintentionally uploaded and i don't know how to delete it...
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If you're on a desktop PC:
Click on the Edit button,located right below your post,towards the right side of your screen.
Then click on Advanced, should be in the same area.
Scroll down until you see your attachments,click on Manage Attachments, then delete & save.
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If you're on a desktop PC:
Click on the Edit button,located right below your post,towards the right side of your screen.
Then click on Advanced, should be in the same area.
Scroll down until you see your attachments,click on Manage Attachments, then delete & save.
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Noted, gonna do it once I grab a desktop PC... Currently only android is available XD
StardustGeass said:
Noted, gonna do it once I grab a desktop PC... Currently only android is available XD
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If you use desktop mode in Chrome,you should be able to do the same.
At least ya didn't upload something best kept in a secure folder/etc...........
Asus is coming out with a touch version of the MB16AP, but I've searched high and low for the model number and came up with nothing, and who knows when it will come out. In the meantime I ordered the MB16AP on ebay which is the non-touch version with the battery and it should arrive next week. According to the Asus website, it should be compatible with any android phone (version 5.0 or above) and most laptops with Displaylink drivers. So I assume it will work with the Note 9 in Dex mode.
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twospirits said:
Asus is coming out with a touch version of the MB16AP, but I've searched high and low for the model number and came up with nothing, and who knows when it will come out. In the meantime I ordered the MB16AP on ebay which is the non-touch version with the battery and it should arrive next week. According to the Asus website, it should be compatible with any android phone (version 5.0 or above) and most laptops with Displaylink drivers. So I assume it will work with the Note 9 in Dex mode.
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Good to see ya here in the Note 9 forum TS ! :good:
Nice!
Wow i'm sure glad I saw this.... been looking for something like that HP Lapdock. I got the Sentio Superbook and after a year and a half it was quite a let-down. Tech just changes so fast and the user experience was not good. Played around with Dex and it works well for my needs.
Well that external monitor (MB16AP) came in this past week and I've been testing it with the Note 9. First of all, she is a beauty. Works with the Note 9 and DeX without any issues. On the Note 8, I had blackouts and all sorts of issues using either a hdmi or vga monitor. Since then I've upgraded to the Note 9 and the same issues appear but less so. It was somewhat manageable. I figure it may have been the monitors and not the Notes. But when I hooked up the Note 9 to the Zenscreen MB16AP, wow what a difference. Smooth as butter.
The only issue I've encountered is since the Note 9 and the Zenscreen use a single USB-C cable, there is no way to use any usb or usb dongle wireless mouse and keyboard. You are either forced to use the built in Note 9 keyboard and use the touch screen as the mouse. The monitor finally showed up on Amazon and its about $50 more than on ebay due to the shipping. But at least Amazon has a way better return policy that the two outfits on ebay that are selling the model.
I did a somewhat review of the monitor on Amazon.
edit: forgot the pics
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I was about to get a zenscreen go, before I got an HP X3 Lapdock. I'm rly glad I got it instead, cause I was gonna get the Zenscreen, and a BT keyboard and mouse to mimick a lapdock like miracast.
No need for that nonsense now. If anyone gets an HP lapdock, the only combo I've seen work consistently is the Snapdragon Note 9 + The american Lapdock model which starts with a V. All the other models have various things that don't work. They start with a Y. I'd also avoid getting a refurbished one, as it's not known is they used parts from other models that are not compatible with the Note 9. Just get it new on amazon or ebay. new.
I got the HP Lapdock and boy so glad I did. For my needs it's perfect. Everything works great and the battery lasts a long time.... I ran it over 7 hours yesterday to test. The only thing that doesn't work is left and right clicking on the touchpad do nothing. You have to use gestures.... but I use a mouse anyway.....
Seriously Samsung needs to make their own lapdock for dex.....
kill_dano said:
I was about to get a zenscreen go, before I got an HP X3 Lapdock. I'm rly glad I got it instead, cause I was gonna get the Zenscreen, and a BT keyboard and mouse to mimick a lapdock like miracast.
No need for that nonsense now. If anyone gets an HP lapdock, the only combo I've seen work consistently is the Snapdragon Note 9 + The american Lapdock model which starts with a V. All the other models have various things that don't work. They start with a Y. I'd also avoid getting a refurbished one, as it's not known is they used parts from other models that are not compatible with the Note 9. Just get it new on amazon or ebay. new.
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I have an Asus MB16AC that I use with my laptop. I tried it the other day, but the monitor would only power on for 1-2 seconds. This evening, I charged the phone to 100% and tried again.
Using the USB-C to USB-C cable to the Note 9, screen mirroring works great, but only lasts for a short time. Playing video makes the monitor power off even faster. Definitely a problem powering the display from the phone.
Switching to Dex mode makes everything go black. I assume that Dex mode takes more power.
I'll order a powered USB3 hub and try again. I can't seem to find a USB-C hub that has USB-C ports, except for one that does PD (Power Delivery).
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Well that external monitor (MB16AP) came in this past week and I've been testing it with the Note 9. First of all, she is a beauty. Works with the Note 9 and DeX without any issues. On the Note 8, I had blackouts and all sorts of issues using either a hdmi or vga monitor. Since then I've upgraded to the Note 9 and the same issues appear but less so. It was somewhat manageable. I figure it may have been the monitors and not the Notes. But when I hooked up the Note 9 to the Zenscreen MB16AP, wow what a difference. Smooth as butter.
The only issue I've encountered is since the Note 9 and the Zenscreen use a single USB-C cable, there is no way to use any usb or usb dongle wireless mouse and keyboard. You are either forced to use the built in Note 9 keyboard and use the touch screen as the mouse. The monitor finally showed up on Amazon and its about $50 more than on ebay due to the shipping. But at least Amazon has a way better return policy that the two outfits on ebay that are selling the model.
I did a somewhat review of the monitor on Amazon.
edit: forgot the pics
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Have you found a solution for the power? Wouldn't charging the phone with Qi help or USB-C PD is needed? I have not found any adapter allowing out on phone, and in by another USB-C that would send power.
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Have you found a solution for the power? Wouldn't charging the phone with Qi help or USB-C PD is needed? I have not found any adapter allowing out on phone, and in by another USB-C that would send power.
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Yes I can place the phone on a wireless charger while using the USB-C cable to send the DEX display to the monitor. But it seems the monitor is taking up more juice than it gets. Thus depleting the battery eventually. You would think that if the Note 9 is supplying the power to the monitor that the monitor would not use the internal battery but it seems that it does. Then if the internal battery goes down to 0, it will not allow Dex to display until the internal battery has at least 5% juice. It baffles me why Asus did not include a splitter of some sort or have the device have another USB-C port for charging.
btw that USB-C 3.1 Gen 2 cable by NekTeck is a suitable replacement for the OEM Asus USB-C cable.

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