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I really like the charger that came with my 6P, it's compact and charges both my Macbook and my phone, but I can't seem to find it for anywhere? It looks like the one from the Google store is not the same. Anyone know where to find it?
I email huawei but they never email be back
mdmogren said:
I really like the charger that came with my 6P, it's compact and charges both my Macbook and my phone, but I can't seem to find it for anywhere? It looks like the one from the Google store is not the same. Anyone know where to find it?
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I find there to be no use with needing the stock charger over the 15w one from Google. Some may argue, well the type c cable is attached to the wall adapter. Sure, but what are you going to plug your phone into that has another type c port? I get your macbook has a type c port but it isnt as common as the type a usb port.
mdmogren said:
I really like the charger that came with my 6P, it's compact and charges both my Macbook and my phone, but I can't seem to find it for anywhere? It looks like the one from the Google store is not the same. Anyone know where to find it?
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well i don't know how you can claim the stock charger is compact (it's easily 2x longer than the stock nexus 6 charger), but i do like that the plug is removable. the replacement they're selling on the google store has a hard-wired cable. it works and is good, but i don't care for the hard wired part
I could safely bet that Huawei made a deal with Google that they wont sell the stock charger so that Google can make more accessory sales.
You can always buy the dual port charger from Google (https://store.google.com/product/usb_c_dual_port_charger). Yes its more expensive, but comes with an extra long cable, and the way USB C is going you'll have more USB C devices in the future for that extra port to be useful.
theTqM said:
I could safely bet that Huawei made a deal with Google that they wont sell the stock charger so that Google can make more accessory sales.
You can always buy the dual port charger from Google (https://store.google.com/product/usb_c_dual_port_charger). Yes its more expensive, but comes with an extra long cable, and the way USB C is going you'll have more USB C devices in the future for that extra port to be useful.
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I would buy the 2 port if not for the reports that only one of the ports supports rapid charging. I don't want to have to constantly make sure I have the "right" cable (will be using one for macbook and 1 for phone.)
indianajonze said:
well i don't know how you can claim the stock charger is compact (it's easily 2x longer than the stock nexus 6 charger), but i do like that the plug is removable. the replacement they're selling on the google store has a hard-wired cable. it works and is good, but i don't care for the hard wired part
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Well, it's compact compared to my Apple USB-C charger which is more the size of a laptop brick. Also, agreed about the hard wired crap.
mdmogren said:
I would buy the 2 port if not for the reports that only one of the ports supports rapid charging. I don't want to have to constantly make sure I have the "right" cable (will be using one for macbook and 1 for phone.)
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Yeah, well its is only a 22.5Wmax charger so having only one port supporting rapid charge makes sense.
If you need to identify cables that are identical you can always just put some colored tape around the ends or a sticker.
As you have a Macbook, you can probably find better USB C solutions for your needs; the Google Store page does say that "Wattage is optimized for smaller devices, like phones and tablets. Larger devices, such as laptops, will take longer to charge."
Not available unfortunately. Google charger is basically your only 15w charging solution right now. If you can wait a month I bet we'll see that change.
mdmogren said:
I really like the charger that came with my 6P, it's compact and charges both my Macbook and my phone, but I can't seem to find it for anywhere? It looks like the one from the Google store is not the same. Anyone know where to find it?
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mdmogren said:
I would buy the 2 port if not for the reports that only one of the ports supports rapid charging. I don't want to have to constantly make sure I have the "right" cable (will be using one for macbook and 1 for phone.)
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I got one yesterday will test it today and let you know. My understanding was that either port could rapid charge, but when you have two devices only one will rapid charge but the charger would rapid charge the device with the least amount of battery.
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It seems, based on reviews here, that only one port will actually rapid charge regardless of your devices charge or which device was plugged in first. That might not be so bad (and expected given the rated wattage) but the charger isn't labeled to tell you which port is the rapid charge one and isn't sold with an explanation describing the situation.
moe2046 said:
I got one yesterday will test it today and let you know. My understanding was that either port could rapid charge, but when you have two devices only one will rapid charge but the charger would rapid charge the device with the least amount of battery.
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I just tested this and you are absolutely right, the second port only charges whereas the first port rapidly charges. Now wondering if I should return it and save some cash and get the single port charger. Although it still seems like a handy device to have when wall outlets are limited.
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T_VASS said:
I find there to be no use with needing the stock charger over the 15w one from Google. Some may argue, well the type c cable is attached to the wall adapter. Sure, but what are you going to plug your phone into that has another type c port? I get your macbook has a type c port but it isnt as common as the type a usb port.
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For me, It's not really about unplugging the cable to use for something else. Cables go bad. If the cable goes bad, the whole charger is shot. That's a bit of a waste to me. Also, you can't buy different length cables for the charger either.
theTqM said:
Yeah, well its is only a 22.5Wmax charger so having only one port supporting rapid charge makes sense.
If you need to identify cables that are identical you can always just put some colored tape around the ends or a sticker.
As you have a Macbook, you can probably find better USB C solutions for your needs; the Google Store page does say that "Wattage is optimized for smaller devices, like phones and tablets. Larger devices, such as laptops, will take longer to charge."
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Considering that the Google Dual Port Charger does not support 3A on both ports and it is likely the 6P and 5X might be the only 5V/3A devices you might every see, it would have made much more sense for the this charger to have 1-3A Type C port and 1-2.4A Type A port!
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Considering that the Google Dual Port Charger does not support 3A on both ports and it is likely the 6P and 5X might be the only 5V/3A devices you might every see, it would have made much more sense for the this charger to have 1-3A Type C port and 1-2.4A Type A port!
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That would make much more sense.
The weird thing is that it leaves 7.5W if you're fast charging your nexus, but as USB-C which is not widespread, so...
My theory, I think the dual port charger is future proofing for wearables with USB C charging ports. Most Qi android wear docks run at 5v/.55a or so, which is well within the 7.5W possible. Looking at it that way, its a phone + wearable dualport charger.
It also aligns perfectly with the real (not google) USB C standard of 5v/1.5a.
FYI,
I ran across this charger today on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Type-C-Charger-CHOE-Charger-Adapter-Included/dp/B017I7EX46
So far, it doesn't have any reviews (all the reviews are for the Type A charger), but it's also saying that the estimated delivery date is Nov 25 - Dec 8. So, I guess it's shipping directly from China. I ordered one anyway. Worst case is that I'm out $17.
Not only does the one port work for 3A (the one closest to the white Google face logo), the charger must be in the wall before connecting to phone. If not, it will max out at 1.5A.
With the stock charger, it doesn't matter.
Little confused on what I need for my new phone coming Friday. Obviously, I have a host of Micro USB cables that I'd like to be able to use with my new phone. I assume there must be some adapter that is recommended.
I also need a cable to run from an Anker charger to my new phone.
Thanks!
Confused or not you really should spend some time reading through the other threads that are already here.
The situation has started to clear up quite a bit but all the info is already here.
I started to read through one of the threads but I just got more confused. Lots of talk about what wouldn't work and the one plus one cables being bad.
I'd be happy to research more on my own, if you could point me in the direction of a quality thread or post.
Thanks
Essentially, some companies are producing USB Type-A to USB Type-C cables that don't meet the standards set out by the USB Consortium (made up of Google, Apple, and many other tech companies). These cables that don't meet the specification could allow a device (such as your phone) to try to pull too much current from a charger, USB port, or USB hub and thus damage them. Worst case scenario, they cause a charger to overheat and start a fire!
SO, your best bet is to buy USB Type-A to USB Type-C cables directly from Google or any of the cables Benson Leung (a Google engineer) has reviewed highly. It doesn't matter if they're USB 2.0, 3.0, or 3.1 as the Nexus 6P only supports the slower USB 2.0 speeds and it's all compatible!
Are there any certified adapters or recommendations on something that converts a Micro USB end to a Type-C end? I'd prefer to just extend the cables I already have rather than replace them.
I sadly have not seen a verified adapter yet. You could take a chance on buying some that haven't been disqualified and test them with this app, and return them if they fail. Otherwise, some people are keeping track of verified accessories on this spreadsheet and someone might find good adapters.
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Are there any certified adapters or recommendations on something that converts a Micro USB end to a Type-C end? I'd prefer to just extend the cables I already have rather than replace them.
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I looked through his profile and all of the reviews he's done and none of the adapters have met specifications. You might be better off going with cables instead of adapters.
Thanks you were both very helpful!
All this info above is true. But just an FYI I've had my phone for about a month and only used the micro USB to c adapters (other than a couple times to test with the googled one ) since my case I got had the port too small for the Google charger to fit through and I've never had any issues. The charger or phone doesn't get any hotter or warmer. The phone does charge slower than the Google charger, but that's because the power adapters I'm using are about 1500mah bricks.
Just wanted to chime in that I was not able to get any of my microusb OTG cables working using an adapter. (2 different microusb F to usb-C M adapters purchased through Aliexpress) Perhaps I was just unlucky, though.
They seem to work for connecting to a computer. I also see videos from XDA's youtube channel where they use one of those adapters for connecting a 6p to a computer.
Strangely, one of the adapters shows that it's compliant through the aforementioned app!
The cables/adapters that are out of specification can work fine; but it all depends on how your devices, chargers, and hubs handle the incorrect cable. While you might get lucky and it'll work fine, you might also get unlucky!
Why take a chance? And why support companies that don't follow the rules?
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Why take a chance? And why support companies that don't follow the rules?
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This.
It also baffles me why people are so willing to shell out $500+ for a new phone, but scream bloody murder when having to pay a little more for compliant cables / adapters / chargers.
Elnrik said:
This.
It also baffles me why people are so willing to shell out $500+ for a new phone, but scream bloody murder when having to pay a little more for compliant cables / adapters / chargers.
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While I went for the certified cables, most complain because we're spending 10+ on a cable we're used to buying for 4 or 5 bucks... For the longer cord.
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Elnrik said:
This.
It also baffles me why people are so willing to shell out $500+ for a new phone, but scream bloody murder when having to pay a little more for compliant cables / adapters / chargers.
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Yes you have a valid point except that there are no certified adapters yet as far as I know. Which means for someone like me it's not about money, but it's about being able to use micro USB still since practically every other devices I have uses that still. Ie tablet, controllers, remotes.
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Yes you have a valid point except that there are no certified adapters yet as far as I know. Which means for someone like me it's not about money, but it's about being able to use micro USB still since practically every other devices I have uses that still. Ie tablet, controllers, remotes.
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So it about not wanting to carry 1 extra cable? I don't see that being a big deal at all.
Pilz said:
So it about not wanting to carry 1 extra cable? I don't see that being a big deal at all.
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We all have different scenarios. I like to have at minimum a charger in car, bedroom, living room, computer desk, bathroom with shower, work, kitchen and battery pack in backpack. I'm not carrying around an extra cable for each place.
frigidazzi said:
We all have different scenarios. I like to have at minimum a charger in car, bedroom, living room, computer desk, bathroom with shower, work, kitchen and battery pack in backpack. I'm not carrying around an extra cable for each place.
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I know where you are coming from, that's one of the reasons why I sold all of my mirco USB phones/tablets (my Nexus 6 and Shield Tablet LTE). I have 1 good USB-A to USB-C cable 2 USB C-C wall chargers, and a USB C battery pack along with 4 C-C cables.
Sill looking for good replacement USB C wall chargers. Anybody got a lock on some good quality ones?
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Sill looking for good replacement USB C wall chargers. Anybody got a lock on some good quality ones?
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I have a feeling that the Google chargers will be the best quality ones you can get. I have both of the Google chargers - the single port and dual port - and have had great results with both.
I saw a few type c chargers from chotech on amazon.com the other day. No clue if they are any good though.
Ewto16 said:
Little confused on what I need for my new phone coming Friday. Obviously, I have a host of Micro USB cables that I'd like to be able to use with my new phone. I assume there must be some adapter that is recommended.
I also need a cable to run from an Anker charger to my new phone.
Thanks!
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Please refer to these 2 OP's for certified Type-C and Type-A to Type-C cables and discussion:
1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/accessories/usb-type-c-cables-reviewed-google-t3240861
2.http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/accessories/benson-leung-verified-usb-c-cables-t3245685
Disclaimer: All of these items were sent to me by Tronsmart for a fair and honest review.
Backstory:
Tronsmart I a well-known accessory manufacturer known for their cables and chargers. This is my first experience with their products because I usually end up purchasing most of my cables/chargers when I first get a new phone (I used qi charging almost exclusively until this current phone). This year things changed as I’m sure everyone is aware; the USB Type-C standard was initially very confusing for both consumers and accessory manufacturers alike. At first it was hard to find any Type-C accessories let alone ones that were probably in spec. This presented an issue for consumers trying to buy a cable that wouldn’t potentially brown out their charger, cause a fire, or harm their brand new Nexus 5X/6P.
I initially purchased an Aukey Type A-C cable off Amazon, and some OnePlus Type A-C cables/microUSB adapters. Soon after purchasing those items, I learned from Benson Leung that the majority of manufactures weren’t following the proper standard, and intern were using the wrong resister. Now while this was great to know, it also made it hard to buy a product with confidence considering that many if not all of them were potentially dangerous to use. Benson Leung went one step further, and began testing cables, chargers, and other products then posting reviews stating whether or not each one met the USB standard. The initial Tronsmart USB-C car charger fell victim to this problem, but thankfully it was corrected with their new car charger you will see below.
Tronsmart sent me a wide array of items to review on here with each one meeting the proper standard as verified via Check-R, and Benson Leung (except for the car charger as of 12/23 which has not been tested)
Here is are some pictures of the items that will be reviewed:
Tronsmart USB Type-C 33W Car Charger with Dual USB Rapid Charging and Quick Charge 3.0
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First I will delve into an item that I know will be used on a daily basis, and that’s their car charger. The charger itself features both a USB Type-C port and a USB Type-A port to meet all of your device needs. The USB Type-A port uses something Tronsmart calls VoltIQ which will charger at 5V/3A max meeting the needs of most devices out there now. On the other hand, the Type-C port features QUALCOMM’s Quick Charge 3.0 standard so you can future proof your car by getting this charger. The Type-C port will charge at: 5-6.5V/3.0A, 6.5-9V/2.0A, 12V/1.5A(Max). This should allow the Nexus 5X/6P to rapid charge via the Type-C port, and charge at ~1.5A from the Type-A port as an in spec cable should.
I plugged both Type-C and Type-A cables into the ports to see how each one fits. The Type-C cable seems much more secure than the Type-A which is something that I’ve noticed when testing the car charger. I tested the car charger using Tronsmart’s USB Type A-C, C-C, and MicroUSB-C cables/adapter. Here are some screenshots showing the charging speed of each one on my Nexus 6P:
Update [12/25] I used the car charger on my 7+ hour drive yesterday and didn't have any issues. The C-C port was use for that part of my trip, and I plan to use the A-C cable via the Type-A port on my drive back tomorrow. I will add another update on how that goes after I get home which will be late Saturday, so the update will likely come on Sunday as a result.
Update [12/26] @MrKaon brought a good point to my attention; the car charger works perfectly fine, but it is not in spec for the USB standard. I personally did not encounter any issues with the car charger; however, the Type-C port cannot use QC 3.0 alongside the Type-C fast charging because it goes against the USB standard as outline HERE. I hope Tronsmart fixes this issue as they stated in the google + post, but all of the cables (A-C included) are in spec. The car charger is the only item that is still not correctly meeting the specification.
Update[12/29] After speaking with Tronsmart, and reading through this google plus post I'm still not sure how I feel about the charger. It does technically go against the charging standard as outline in section 4.8.2 which is further detailed by Benson Leung and the USB standard he is referencing (download). It seems that there is still a significant amount of confusion regarding the new standard. According to Benson Leung, Qualcomm has their Type-C quick charge wrong as it currently stands; this created more issues because Qualcomm told Tronsmart that its QC3.0 standard was correct when it still goes against the USB standard. To sum things up it still isn't using the standard, but it works perfectly fine as is. I'm still using it daily with a C-C cable without any issues, and I plan to until someone shows that it could cause damage to my phone/charger/car.
I used the A-C cable during my ~7 hour drive back home today, and didn't have any issues with it. I also tested both ports simultaneously, and did not notice a drop in current; this would be great if the charger was up to the proper specifications, but its not. I will wait on Tronsmart to make a updated on as they mentioned in their google + post I referenced. If Tronsmart sends me an updated one I will post a newer review on it in this OP.
USB Voltage Mult-meter test (showing that it's meeting the USB Spec)
Stock Google A-C Cable
Tronsmart A-C Cable
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Tronsmart 6[ft] USB Type A-C 2 pack
Tronsmart Type A-C 6[ft] Cable 2 Pack
I know many people still enjoy using their legacy chargers rather than buy complete new Type-C ones to replace them, this is where Tronsmart’s USB Type A-C cables come into play. These cables come in a pack of 2 (1 white and 1 black) each cable measuring 6[ft]/1.82[m] in length. Since the cables are using the Type-A port they can be used in more places than your convention Type C-C cables. I always keep a Type A-C cable in my backpack, along with a C-C cable just in case I need to plug my phone into my Surface Pro 4 or a PC for any reason.
The build quality of these cables is great, the cable itself is made out of your typical materials, and is somewhat rigid. I assume the cable will become much more flexible as time goes on, but it’s really an observation more than it is an issue for me. The connectors at each end are solid, and feel like they will last a long time by design. The USB Type-C connector is a matte plastic and tapered so it will not interfere with any cases. (it seems to work just fine with all of my cases so far including the CaseMate, and Ringke Fusion that I tested it on). The cable feels nice, and I plan to use it along with their C-C cable on my road trip tomorrow.
I tested the cable and verified that is passes via the Check-R app on my 6P. The dimensions of each end of the cable were measured with my digital caliper and will be listed below so everyone can check and ensure it will work with their intended case. I also plan to create a spreadsheet listing all of the cases, and cable compatibility given my vast assortment of them.
Update [12/25] I spoke with Tronsmart regarding the earlier mention of the cable being 'in spec', and they said all of their Type-C products have been sent to Benson Leung for review. They also noted that due to the holidays it might take a little longer before he posts about them officially. I am confident their cables will pass the test based on what I have seen as well.
Update [1/7] Benson Leung has reviewed and approved the Tronsmart A-C cable. This confirms my earlier tests of the cable. Bensons Review
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Tronsmart 6[ft] USB Type C-C 2 pack
http://www.amazon.com/Tronsmart-USB..._UL160_SR160,160_&refRID=1G77XXSTWZGMBC089VAT
When it comes to Type-C cables, there aren’t many 6[ft]/1.82[m] cables out there to use with the factory Google charger without paying an excessive amount of money. I purchased the Google 22.5W dual port Type-C charger back when I bought my phone, and while it is very nice (so is the 1.82[m] cable) it was costly. The Google cable retails for $19.99 or the charger with the cable is $39.99; this might have been okay a few months ago, but now there are more choices for a fraction of that price. The Tronsmart USB C-C 2 pack comes with 2! of these cables for only $15.99 USD (as of 12/23). These cables are every bit as nice feeling (if not better in some ways) than the Google one I bought a while ago. I like how Tronsmart includes both a white and a black cable allowing you to choose the color based on where you intend to use it, and what one you enjoy more.
The connectors at each end of the cable are exactly the same as the previous one; this means the connector still features the tapered design, and matte finish which is fine with me.
Update [12/25] I used the C-C cable while driving for 7+ hours yesterday and it performed just as you would expect. I also used both cables in my Google Dual Port Type-C charger to charge my wife's 6P and mine last night. The cables have been working great, and my wife enjoys it more than the stock cable because it's much longer, and has a better build overall.
Update[12/25] Part 2: Tronsmart also mentioned that a C-C cable should not have a 56K pull resistor, or any resistor as noted in "3.4.2 "USB 2.0 Type-C Cable Assembly" for instructions on how to build a legal C-to-C cable. Adding a resistor would be wrong". I really appreciate Tronsmart's great service, and how they reached out to me with this information. I rarely see companies go to these lengths without first asking, but Tronsmart did this on their own without me having to ask. I'm going to buy some more of their cables because they have excellent service, and I could always use more cables.
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Tronsmart MicroUSB-C 2 pack
http://www.amazon.com/Tronsmart-Con..._UL160_SR160,160_&refRID=1G77XXSTWZGMBC089VAT
Tronsmart decided to also make a MicroUSB-C adapter so you can use all of your old microUSB cables. These adapters also come in a 2 pack (1 white and 1 black) just like Tronsmart’s cables. I only have a handful of cables left over (primarily for my Nvidia Shield TV PRO), but these will still get used for a variety of reasons. I usually carry a USB Type A-C/C-C cables around, but this adapter is more practical in a different way. I can easily carry this in my backpack just in case I wanted to leave out my other cables, and need to charge my phone. The majority of people I know still use a microUSB cable to charge their phone, and this allows you to charge your 6P via the old cables. It is very small (easy to lose unfortunately, I wish they included a key fob like OnePlus did) but brings exactly what you need if you need to charge your phone but only have access to microUSB cables. I plan to carry one of each cable, and these adapters around with me because I like to be over prepared rather than under-prepare. I also have the TechMatte microUSB adapters, but their quality is far lower than the Tronsmart ones. The adapters remain consistent with Tronsmarts other Type-C accessories and feature a tapered body which makes them less susceptible to breaking. I can’t find any flaws in these adapters other than they don’t come with some form of holder which would prevent them from getting lost easily.
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Tronsmart 33W Dual Port Type-C, Type-A Wall Charger
Tronsmart Dual Port Type-C, Type-A 33W Travel Charger
Overview
Tronsmart is on a roll with all of their great new products being released. They Dual Port Type-C/Type-A wall charger is no exception with a familiar designto the other dual port charger they sent me. The charger is small enough to easily bring in your bad, and it has the advantage of packing both a Type-A & Type-C port for maximum versatility. I am going to bring this with me to school on a daily basis as a means of an emergency charger/long term test.
Packaging
What’s in the box
A dual port charger, and some basic documentation with Tronsmart's usual contact information.
Build & Design
I've been enjoying the other dual port charger I was sent because of its nice compact form. The addition of a fold-able plug gives the charger the extra portability you need when carrying one around. The charger features Tronsmarts signature glossy edge coupled with a nice matte plastic body. A high quality feeling plastic is used which gives it a better feel than the stock Huawei, or the Google 22.5W dual port chargers.
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Charging
The Type-A port will charge using Tronsmarts Volt IQ up to 5V/3A, while the Type-C port uses Qualcomms Quick Charge 3.0. I have tested both ports with my 6P, a dock, Shield Controller, and external battery packs. The Type-C port will only push up to 5V/3A and not the QC 3.0 which is good. Tronsmart designed the charger so it would identify the phone, and provide only the current it could handle. This is the same idea behind their Type-C/Type-A car charger I reviewed above which is still working flawlessly. If there are any concerns over the use of QC 3.0 via the Type-C port please refer to the links I posted in the car charger section for a better explanation.
Here is a breakdown of the charging by port:
Type-A: 5V/3A
Type-C: 3.6-6.5V/3A, 6.5-9V/2A, and 9-12V/1.5A
Picture of my 6P, and battery pack charging from both ports (the 6P is "rapid charging", and the battery pack is charging slower because it was nearly full)
Summary
Tronsmart made another excellent charger using the tried and true design language that should last for a long time. I like the versatility of the foldable plug and inclusion of both types of USB ports. I would buy one of these as a gift without hesitation given its performance build, and Tronsmart's exceptional service!
At the request of Tronsmart I removed the 'hide' image tags for the car charger so the pictures can be seen immediately without clicking on each one.
Update #1 [1/12] Tronsmart is adding a PTC (positive temperature coefficient to all of their Type-C products) This is also known as a thermistor to counter some issues people had with the cables. Tronsmart stated that people who did not keep the cables dry during use/clean experienced issues, but I wouldn't worry about it as this time. The addition of the thermistor is more of a preventative measure to ensure there are no issues for anyone despite using a cable incorrectly. I have not experienced any issues personally with their products, and I will continue to use them on a daily basis unless something prevents me from doing so. I was told the Type-C products that I currently have will be replaced which is going above and beyond in my opinion. I will update this statement with any new information as it becomes available.
Update #2 [1/12] PTC is not the standard, but rather a step above in terms of safety. I wanted to add that all of these cables are 100% compliant and meet the USB specification as outlined with Benson Leungs approval. Tronsmart is going above and beyond to ensure consumer safety with their products. No other USB Type-C cables on the market current incorporate a thermistor, so with Tronsmart's revised cables you will never have to worry. (the stock Google cables do NOT have a thermistor) I believe Tronsmart is trying their best to instill confidence in their products, and stand above the rest. This is my personal opinion based on my communication with them regarding issues I've had/seen.
Very professional review! Thanks! Got the tronsmart type c car charger and the type c to a cable:good: Actually I had found the new tronsmart car charger before but didn't find any review here.
jisddwqs said:
Very professional review! Thanks! Got the tronsmart type c car charger and the type c to a cable:good: Actually I had found the new tronsmart car charger before but didn't find any review here.
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Thank you, I will post an update after my ~7-8 hour roadtrip tomorrow. I'm going to use it to keep my Nexus 6P and my wife's 6P charged during the trip. The charger seems to work just as well as my other Type-C car charger (except that one has a fixed cable), and I like the ability to use a longer cable if I want to.
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Thank you, I will post an update after my ~7-8 hour roadtrip tomorrow. I'm going to use it to keep my Nexus 6P and my wife's 6P charged during the trip. The charger seems to work just as well as my other Type-C car charger (except that one has a fixed cable), and I like the ability to use a longer cable if I want to.
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How about the update? Does it work well? PS: The link of "Tronsmart Cables/Car Charger/Adapter Review" in your signature is wrong. Just link to the post"[Review 12/23] Case Comparison: 15+ cases (Hybrid, Clear, Slim, Rugged & TPU)"
Send the product link to Benson Leung without his approval don't buy it.
His reviewed products so far
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How about the update? Does it work well? PS: The link of "Tronsmart Cables/Car Charger/Adapter Review" in your signature is wrong. Just link to the post"[Review 12/23] Case Comparison: 15+ cases (Hybrid, Clear, Slim, Rugged & TPU)"
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I fixed the link in my signature thank for you the heads up. Next, I was driving all day yesterday and I said I would update it when I had the time; it was noted in the OP that I would be out of town, and update the OP when I have the time because of that. I have a few minutes now so I will add some more to it. I do this in my free time, so please keep that in mind.
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Send the product link to Benson Leung without his approval don't buy it.
His reviewed products so far
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I'm well aware of his product reviews as I mentioned very clearly in my OP. Benson Leung doesn't ask companies to send him products, but rather he buys them and conducts testing independently. He doesn't need to approve every cable in order for it to be approved. Check-R is just as accurate, and other people on Amazon who own a Pixel tested it the same way as Benson which resulted in the cable passing the test with flying colors. You cannot say "without his approval don't buy it." when there are tons of cables inspec cables that he hasn't tested. No one can seriously expect him to test every cable hence the Check-R app, and other people conducting their own tests within the same standards.
The A-C, and MicroUSB-C cable/adapter pass Check-R just fine; I see no reason why the C-C only wouldn't as well, but I don't have a Type-C port on my laptop or adapter to verify that. I highly doubt Tronsmart would make the A-C cable compliant and then make the C-C non compliant so it's safe to assume that it is indeed compliant.
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Thank you, I will post an update after my ~7-8 hour roadtrip tomorrow. I'm going to use it to keep my Nexus 6P and my wife's 6P charged during the trip. The charger seems to work just as well as my other Type-C car charger (except that one has a fixed cable), and I like the ability to use a longer cable if I want to.
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My car has a bluetooth puck that is powered by a USB port. I read that if you have something connected to the Type C port of a car charger and then connect another device, the charging ability to either device drops like a rock. (I currently have an OMAKER 6.6A 3-port USB Type A charger).
Can you replicate this? I doubt my BT puck needs to draw a huge amount of power, but it definitely has no battery and has to run on power (this was intentional, because I wanted the puck to turn on the moment the car is turned on and turn off with the car).
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My car has a bluetooth puck that is powered by a USB port. I read that if you have something connected to the Type C port of a car charger and then connect another device, the charging ability to either device drops like a rock. (I currently have an OMAKER 6.6A 3-port USB Type A charger).
Can you replicate this? I doubt my BT puck needs to draw a huge amount of power, but it definitely has no battery and has to run on power (this was intentional, because I wanted the puck to turn on the moment the car is turned on and turn off with the car).
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I'll test it with my wife's 6P and mine on both ports and let you know. I'll need to make sure both batteries are lower so they will draw more power, then let you know how it performs.
OP Updated with more remarks concerning the cable certification as previously mentioned.
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I'm well aware of his product reviews as I mentioned very clearly in my OP. Benson Leung doesn't ask companies to send him products, but rather he buys them and conducts testing independently. He doesn't need to approve every cable in order for it to be approved. Check-R is just as accurate, and other people on Amazon who own a Pixel tested it the same way as Benson which resulted in the cable passing the test with flying colors. You cannot say "without his approval don't buy it." when there are tons of cables inspec cables that he hasn't tested. No one can seriously expect him to test every cable hence the Check-R app, and other people conducting their own tests within the same standards.
The A-C, and MicroUSB-C cable/adapter pass Check-R just fine; I see no reason why the C-C only wouldn't as well, but I don't have a Type-C port on my laptop or adapter to verify that. I highly doubt Tronsmart would make the A-C cable compliant and then make the C-C non compliant so it's safe to assume that it is indeed compliant.
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Benson doesn't reviews C to C cable only A-C cables and car chargers (already disapproved other Tronsmart charger) after searching Car Charger Thread I find out his opinion about this charger:
Please read the language in section 4.8.2 closely. It prohibits a proprietary charging method, which is what QC is, from modifying the voltage at the charger or the phone side. It's not possible to be compliant with both at the same time.
The way I read the spec, it is also against spec to charge legacy devices at higher voltages (ie an older phone with a MicroB port and supports QC) out of the same Type C port.
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The spec prohibits it because it allowing it would cause significant confusion between two different methods of varying Vbus in a Type-C system. USB PD is the officially sanctioned method, and has some important advantages over any of the existing QCs. Specifically, you will NEVER see a QC hub or charging+data port on your computer because QC completely takes over the USB data lines. USB PD does not do this and there are already fast charging hubs on the market that also hook up USB 2.0 and 3.1 data lines.
Also, allowing it would potentially cause problems with legacy A-to-C cables by changing Vbus, it affects the reading the adc on the device side would read from CC.
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So don't buy it.
Only car charger that has passed his review with only 4 star is Vinsic.
Ha ha I am the one he had to clarify too lol.
MrKaon said:
Benson doesn't reviews C to C cable only A-C cables and car chargers (already disapproved other Tronsmart charger) after searching Car Charger Thread I find out his opinion about this charger:
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So don't buy it.
Only car charger that has passed his review with only 4 star is Vinsic.
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Thank you for the link, I read through the Google + posts then amended the OP to reflect what you referenced. Now, despite the car charger not being compliant, the cables are still perfectly in spec and work fine. I appreciate the link, and information. I tagged you in the OP, then inserted the link you provided so other users can have a look at it.:good:
So the important part, does it work properly like the stock charger? AFAIK and researched, Tronsmart made a 2in1 charger (QC 3.0 + 5V*3A) in one port, that's why it's not in spec. But so far on your review, it works perfectly, and is giving 2700ma when charging.
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So the important part, does it work properly like the stock charger? AFAIK and researched, Tronsmart made a 2in1 charger (QC 3.0 + 5V*3A) in one port, that's why it's not in spec. But so far on your review, it works perfectly, and is giving 2700ma when charging.
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It works just like the stock charger and will give 2.9-3A when the battery is low. I can take a screenshot later when I drain my battery enough and post it in the OP. I know its not up to the correct spec, but it still works fine. I can't recommend people use it because its not correct, yet I haven't had any issues to suggest its unsafe in any way. I have a different car charger (JOTO I believe) and it has a fixed cable which chargers at 5V/3A as well. I'll test both and take screenshots so you can see the rates each one charges at.
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It works just like the stock charger and will give 2.9-3A when the battery is low. I can take a screenshot later when I drain my battery enough and post it in the OP. I know its not up to the correct spec, but it still works fine. I can't recommend people use it because its not correct, yet I haven't had any issues to suggest its unsafe in any way. I have a different car charger (JOTO I believe) and it has a fixed cable which chargers at 5V/3A as well. I'll test both and take screenshots so you can see the rates each one charges at.
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Good to know that it's working properly and PERFECTLY. =) Read the whole thread on reddit. The only issue is, you can't mix QC 3.0 and 5V*3A(Type C charging) in one port. Something about the guidelines.
Tronsmart did it anyway, and made it work. Dunno what the issue is about anymore.
While Benson Leung did great on pointing out the defeciencies in the market, I think this scare is already blown out IMO.
But more importantly, thank you so much for the review. ??
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Good to know that it's working properly and PERFECTLY. =) Read the whole thread on reddit. The only issue is, you can't mix QC 3.0 and 5V*3A(Type C charging) in one port. Something about the guidelines.
Tronsmart did it anyway, and made it work. Dunno what the issue is about anymore.
While Benson Leung did great on pointing out the defeciencies in the market, I think this scare is already blown out IMO.
But more importantly, thank you so much for the review. ??
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I don't know enough about electronic circuits to say there won't be an issue seeing as I'm finishing a degree in Petroleum Engineering which is quite different. I'm not concerned about it killing my phone unless evidence shows otherwise, but I can't state that people should buy it because of what was mentioned. I still really like the charger, and I will continue to use it daily because its nice. I hope the issue gets sorted out sooner rather than later. I PM'd Tronsmart about the discrepancy, and I will post their response in the OP. I think out of spec A-C cables are more of a hazard personally, but the Tronsmart ones are in spec are made correctly.
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I don't know enough about electronic circuits to say there won't be an issue seeing as I'm finishing a degree in Petroleum Engineering which is quite different. I'm not concerned about it killing my phone unless evidence shows otherwise, but I can't state that people should buy it because of what was mentioned. I still really like the charger, and I will continue to use it daily because its nice. I hope the issue gets sorted out sooner rather than later. I PM'd Tronsmart about the discrepancy, and I will post their response in the OP. I think out of spec A-C cables are more of a hazard personally, but the Tronsmart ones are in spec are made correctly.
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Interesting, I find that aukey also released a similar charger with quick charge 3.0 and the type c port(the same as the tronsmart one). Also put the quick charge 3.0 into the type c port. Can't post the amazon link here now. You can search"aukey type c charger" then you can find it.
OP Updated [12/29] with even more information regarding the Type-C standard. It creates more confusion, but also clears some other things up.
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Interesting, I find that aukey also released a similar charger with quick charge 3.0 and the type c port(the same as the tronsmart one). Also put the quick charge 3.0 into the type c port. Can't post the amazon link here now. You can search"aukey type c charger" then you can find it.
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According to Benson Leungs post that charger doesn't meet the USB standard. I think Qualcomm is misleading some of these manufacturers by having their QC 3.0 standard not meet the USB one.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0119DC9O6/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Anyone know if this one is safe to use?
Is there a desktop dock that supports quick charge? or "charging rapidly" as us Nexus owners refer to it as. I'm looking for a dock to charge my phone as quick as possible on the Nexus 6P, I've seen a few docks about but none seem to support this! I thought the introduction of type c on the note 7 may mean more/better docks available for USB - C type phones but that doesn't seem the case.
What are people using for desktop charging/docks? Pictures would be fantastic.
I'm pretty sure there are some custom docks, kididgi make one & I think you'll find a thread about it right here. But I can wholeheartedly recommend the Sarvi dock for the Nexus 6p.
http://www.sarvidesigns.com/
Its a graceful looking yet very solid dock. The major benefit being that it does not have a built in power supply. Instead it comes with a few adapters that allow for almost any phone charger to be tightly attached to the stand. This means that you can use the fastcharge plug & cable with it. It also means that the dock will most likely be able to be adapted to any future phone that requires a different plug.
I have the sarvi unit as well, has been a number of months of trouble free use.
Definitely like the look of them as its fairly future proof and I can use it with my different devices, phone and Tab. Shame they're out of stock and the website is a bit poor.
Thank you
Yeah the site sucks but the product itself is very good.
Still can't buy one.
I bought this one. It uses your existing charger. https://www.etsy.com/listing/456153...y&ga_search_query=usb c dock&ref=sr_gallery_1
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I bought this one:
https://www.etsy.com/il-en/listing/...allery&ga_search_query=usb c&ref=sr_gallery_1
a few days ago and waiting for it to arrive to give my review.
I just came across this dock:
https://www.etsy.com/il-en/listing/...allery&ga_search_query=usb c&ref=sr_gallery_1
Did anyone try it? I know it comes with it's own cable so I was wondering if it supports rapid charging.
I just sent a message to the seller asking if it can arrive with a USB C to USV C cable as opposed to the USB C to USB A cables which would come handy with most other non nexus/pixel phones.
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Sounds great to me.
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I bought this one:
https://www.etsy.com/il-en/listing/...allery&ga_search_query=usb c&ref=sr_gallery_1
a few days ago and waiting for it to arrive to give my review.
I just came across this dock:
https://www.etsy.com/il-en/listing/...allery&ga_search_query=usb c&ref=sr_gallery_1
Did anyone try it? I know it comes with it's own cable so I was wondering if it supports rapid charging.
I just sent a message to the seller asking if it can arrive with a USB C to USV C cable as opposed to the USB C to USB A cables which would come handy with most other non nexus/pixel phones.
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Sounds great to me.
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Fast charge Desktop dock
https://www.rndaccessories.com/products/rnd-fast-charging-type-c-usb-c-dock
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Fast charge Desktop dock
https://www.rndaccessories.com/products/rnd-fast-charging-type-c-usb-c-dock
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Finally a standard USB C to USB C dock!
It's been available for about a year now..... Just saying.
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It's been available for about a year now..... Just saying.
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There are many open threads about this issue. First time Ive seen someone mention this.
I've been getting a lot of accessories directly from them. Best dock I've found and I have about a dozen of them
I have this one it's good.
If Anyone find something like this in landscape mode...
Printed Dock
I've had mine for about a year. Just made one and ran the supplied quick charge cord through it.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/uR5olqoMjqi0jrOY2
I drive a truck, I need a 6ft cable to reach my phone. I have seen from the posts here that quality and real functionality can vary greatly for what seems to be the same things. What brand or even be link specific to a high quality cable. I'll be using the Belkin car charger.
Just grab a ul type c to type a and grab a a-male to a-female extension.
The USB extension will come in handy one day I'm sure, and it's nice to have a a-c cable
I've always had good luck with my choetech cables
Tried the cheotech 6ft cable..... it lasted 4 days and quit working.
Still looking for a long high quality cable. Using the one that came with the phone for now but it is too short for the way I want to arrange things in the truck.
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Tried the cheotech 6ft cable..... it lasted 4 days and quit working.
Still looking for a long high quality cable. Using the one that came with the phone for now but it is too short for the way I want to arrange things in the truck.
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They have good customer service email them and they'll send you a new cable. Duds happen, I've had a bunch of their cables with nary a problem.
I just bought a 6ft cable from AmazonBasics. No complaints about it. I believe they have a 9ft cable too.
Just get a normal usb A extension.
I have used this one for almost two years and it's worked very well for me, I have used it to only charge, and used it plugged into the computer on occasion and has worked flawlessly. It's braided and solid, 10 ft is a bit longer than you mentioned but I find the extra length helps.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B017ILDZCI/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Anker makes some quality cables and they make a 10ft cable that I have been using forever:
https://www.amazon.com/Anker-PowerL...d=1522244932&sr=8-4&keywords=anker+usb+c+10ft
I have been using this one for a while now - seems really sturdy and has worked really well. Plus, you know, different colors. This one is 10' but I believe they make them in different lengths. BEst of luck, enjoy your phone!
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01D175HMO/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Get one that is approved by Benson Leung on Amazon. He regularly tests USB-C cables and chargers and posts reviews on Amazon. I've bought cables he recommended and have had no issues with them.
Go to 5below and buy this https://www.fivebelow.com/tech/cabl...c-sync-and-charge-metallic-braided-cable.html
I bought one for behind the bed and it's high quality and even supports Fast charging. That reminds me I need to go and get 2 more
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Get one that is approved by Benson Leung on Amazon. He regularly tests USB-C cables and chargers and posts reviews on Amazon.
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Well, he used to. His last public review was apparently made on May 22, 2017. Not sure why he stopped posting. Probably because it was unpaid work and he's gotta have a life outside working for Google.