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Hey i flashed my device with the battery at around 80%.
after the flash it was 100%...
so this means i just lost 20% of my capacity? how do i fix this?
Imperium said:
Hey i flashed my device with the battery at around 80%.
after the flash it was 100%...
so this means i just lost 20% of my capacity? how do i fix this?
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I don't believe you have lost capacity. It's only your gauge that's slightly altered. If you recharge your device fully(and about an extra 30min) you should have the regular capacity
How could going from 80% to 100% equate to a lost ???
it's posible that you'd gained the extra charges while the flashing process was going on ( because it was plugged in ?? ) ... if it wasn't ... no idea why
UnicornKaz said:
How could going from 80% to 100% equate to a lost ???
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If i understand the post correctly they are equating am 80% to 100% a loss for 2 reasons:
1. because he would have lost charge while flashing due to the massive battery drain.
2. because now he is stating that his 100% is really only 80%
but i would probably just leave it charge overnight and you should be fine, the gauge just sounds to be off, it shouldnt be a true loss (unless the battery is bad)
Is there any other way to sync the battery with the device? I been trying a full discharge then charge.
I am using a mugen extended 3000mah battery and at 15% 10% and 1% it will stay there for some time before it starts to go down or turn off completely if it is reaches less than 1%.
I don't think you've lost capacity.
I believe you just did a quick check before flashing (and it was already charging before you started right?), and the battery gauge wasn't updated. I had this a couple of times while recharging. I take a quick look and think "this is gonna take another half hour". Five minutes latter I check and the charge led is green again.
Sometimes the battery metter lags a bit, you have to check it again to be sure when charging.
At least it happens to me.
BUMP THAT said:
Is there any other way to sync the battery with the device? I been trying a full discharge then charge.
I am using a mugen extended 3000mah battery and at 15% 10% and 1% it will stay there for some time before it starts to go down or turn off completely if it is reaches less than 1%.
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a few cycles of full charge and discharge should put the battery meter in check...
shogunmark said:
a few cycles of full charge and discharge should put the battery meter in check...
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Alrighty. I have done three so far. It has gotten better then the first time I got it. But its not perfect.
is it safe to discharge it to 0% so that it will shutdown? or what?
Hi guys,
I've noticed that if I plug my phone to the wall charger, when it reaches 95% it just stops charging. I can unplug it and plug it again, and I can reach 100% by repeating the process multiple times, but not in one sitting?
Is this normal? Does it happen to you? Does it get better?
Same here
(Using SuperAosp-ST 4.4)
i have that 2
I got to 98 once !
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Wow. So, is this some kind of feature or what?
frandavid100 said:
Wow. So, is this some kind of feature or what?
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as far as i know, its an known bug
Its by design - charging the battery to only 95% level & then the following discharge. It elongates the battery life. It should never charge to level's exceeding the above.
It's not a bug.
Most batteries lifespan drop if being on high voltage too long (100%)
So usually manufacturers will try to let it state it is fully charged before it even reach 100% to extend the lifespan of the battery.
But if you really want to see it charged fully you can do a battery stats wipe in recovery after a ROM flash. It will be able to charge to 100% fully.
Hope that helps.
navlem said:
It's not a bug.
Most batteries lifespan drop if being on high voltage too long (100%)
So usually manufacturers will try to let it state it is fully charged before it even reach 100% to extend the lifespan of the battery.
But if you really want to see it charged fully you can do a battery stats wipe in recovery after a ROM flash. It will be able to charge to 100% fully.
Hope that helps.
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tried this methode, but no success.
i come from a X10 and SE build in a charging algorithm: battery charged fully, hold this value for one hour and let the battery fall till it reaches 90% and charge again.
do you mean such methode to extend battery life??
the phone from my boss (i9020) charges to 100%, my (i9023) only to 96%
96% is ok, as i said, being in high voltage often kills the battery. 96% keeps it's lifespan much longer.
Being said that, even extremely low voltage kills the battery too. So usually your phone will die before the battery reach 0%
Not this again
From the FAQ post, in this very forum, which should be read before posting a new thread:
Q: I unplugged my phone, and my battery dropped from 100% to 95% immediately, or it won't/takes along time to charge past 99%, what gives?
The answer leads to this informative article about what your battery gauge is telling you, and why 100% is probably not what you want ...
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/12/14/your-battery-gauge-is-lying-to-you-everything-you-need-to-know-about-bump-charging-and-inconsistent-battery-drain/
shamarama said:
Not this again
From the FAQ post, in this very forum, which should be read before posting a new thread:
Q: I unplugged my phone, and my battery dropped from 100% to 95% immediately, or it won't/takes along time to charge past 99%, what gives?
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While I thank you for your reply and linking to that article, that is a related issue but not exactly the same. The usual behaviour is for the battery to indicate a 100% charge and then drop to a lower level, as you bolded in your post. The behaviour I'm talking about is it never going over 95%.
Not a big difference, but enough to notice the change and ask about it. Don't you think?
I myself own a GT-I9020T & have never seen the charge levels exceed beyond 95%.
You are right, your description is subtly different than the post in the FAQ. I have to admit laziness in assuming that they would be one and the same 'problem' ... apologies if they're not.
Well, you did give useful info even though you thought it was an old, tired question. I can't see a reason to give apologies there
Turn the tethering on while charging; it'll charge the battery up to 100%
I think my Vibrant had the same issue / feature. It's probably a Samsung feature and not a bug.
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Mine hits 100pct sometimes but will always stop charging until it drops below 90. A good feature to save the battery. Makes 0 sense for it to be charging every time it drops 1pct for hours at night while on the charger.
I'm wondering if people seeing a difference in the overall charge cap is a matter of rom? I've been using cm for practically ever but I know some people are on stock. I'm sure it's possible something is modded in there to make sure it hits 100 before it stops.
Just a thought.
On nexus s with stock rom I was able to charge to 100%
bolabola118 said:
Turn the tethering on while charging; it'll charge the battery up to 100%
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LOL can someone confirm that?
richrach said:
On nexus s with stock rom I was able to charge to 100%
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maybe thats the problem, because the phone of my friend also charges to 100% (completly stock) mine only to 96% (NSCollab)
So guys i just bought this phone few days ago, and the first charge was only untill 96% and then i unplugged it, because its take too long... is this can cause some problem to my battery? or is it still safe??
pardon mee for my bad english, not my native language..
razerguy71 said:
So guys i just bought this phone few days ago, and the first charge was only untill 96% and then i unplugged it, because its take too long... is this can cause some problem to my battery? or is it still safe??
pardon mee for my bad english, not my native language..
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Did you use the original charger and cable? Of you don't use those you'll experience slow charging. Charging only to 96% won't have any bad effects on your battery.
Heisenberg said:
Did you use the original charger and cable? Of you don't use those you'll experience slow charging. Charging only to 96% won't have any bad effects on your battery.
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so youre saying that my battery is still normal?
and btw yeah i use the original cable and charger, now i can charged to 100% after i let my phone die (0%) and then charge it uninterrupted overnight (like about 6hours)
thank you for the answer!
razerguy71 said:
so youre saying that my battery is still normal?
and btw yeah i use the original cable and charger, now i can charged to 100% after i let my phone die (0%) and then charge it uninterrupted overnight (like about 6hours)
thank you for the answer!
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Yes the battery should be perfectly ok. Sometimes the calibration can be a bit off but you've charged to 100% now it's all good.
I don't think charging your phone to 96% or whatever will cause any damage to your battery and why would it?
mayank6169 said:
I don't think charging your phone to 96% or whatever will cause any damage to your battery and why would it?
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What he was saying was that it wouldn't charge past 96%.
Heisenberg said:
What he was saying was that it wouldn't charge past 96%.
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hey i have another question, this thing have been in my head for a while now i just wanted to make it clear for me
for example i have 80% of battery then charged it untill 85% and then unplugged it and use it for a while until drop to lets say 80% again, and then charged it again to 85%
is that also safe to do?
i just did that when unlocking bootloader and installing twrp recovery, seems like my battery been draining pretty fast after that..
sorry if this noob question annoy you, i just want to make it clear
razerguy71 said:
hey i have another question, this thing have been in my head for a while now i just wanted to make it clear for me
for example i have 80% of battery then charged it untill 85% and then unplugged it and use it for a while until drop to lets say 80% again, and then charged it again to 85%
is that also safe to do?
i just did that when unlocking bootloader and installing twrp recovery, seems like my battery been draining pretty fast after that..
sorry if this noob question annoy you, i just want to make it clear
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That's perfectly fine with a lithium battery. Small top-up changes are actually preferred. It isn't recommended you let the phone fully discharge very often, it also isn't recommended to keep it at peak voltage (100%) for very long (try not to charge overnight). A lithium battery is at its healthiest within the 40%-80% range. So yeah, top-up charges are perfectly fine. About every 30-40 charge cycles (roughly once a month is fine) you should do a calibration by discharging almost fully (from 100%), then charging back to 100%. There are some good articles online here:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/do_and_dont_battery_table
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
Hello, I would like to know if there are some "rules" considering charging my phone ? For example, do I need to wait until my phone shuts down or doesn't it matter when I charge it.
main thing is dont play games when charging, everything else is fine. it charges faster with phone off than on
1- don't use it while charging.
2- don't let the battery completely drain (charge when it reaches 15%)
3- try to avoid charging overnight
Avoid using it while charging if you can. Don't drain the battery completely before charging, try to leave at least 10-15% battery before you charge it. Don't charge it overnight as the Honor 8 has fast charging capabilities. If need charged it in the morning, before you get ready for the day.
I don't agree that it is harmful to charge a phone overnight. Once a smartphone is fully charged it has a built in mechanism that stops the charging thus preventing the phone from overcharging.
heap1 said:
I don't agree that it is harmful to charge a phone overnight. Once a smartphone is fully charged it has a built in mechanism that stops the charging thus preventing the phone from overcharging.
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But you have fast charge in this device so no need to charge ir overnight you can do it in the morning if you need it
sTefIx420 said:
But you have fast charge in this device so no need to charge ir overnight you can do it in the morning if you need it
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That's true. However, there shouldn't be any danger of damaging the phone if you do charge it overnight. Either way you decide to charge it should be OK.
Oh okay, one more question; do I always have to charge it to 100% or is it okay to remove the charger at (for example) 58%?
Look if your going to charge the phone do it to 100% But if you need to go out before it's fully charged its not going to do anything to the phone.. Just walk with your charger and charge it when your able to..
Haroun16 said:
Oh okay, one more question; do I always have to charge it to 100% or is it okay to remove the charger at (for example) 58%?
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For modern batteries, it does no harm to unplug your device before 100%.
Actually it is "healthiest" for batteries to be kept between 80%-20%
heap1 said:
That's true. However, there shouldn't be any danger of damaging the phone if you do charge it overnight. Either way you decide to charge it should be OK.
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While that is true. But there is always a chance that the Lithium Ion battery could become unstable after its been used for a while.
How's your sot on this latest firmware guys and did you notice any improvements from 3.81 firm version? I'm on 3.81 and I'm disapointed about the battery life. It's too short...
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And it does not load you anymore? Phone? From 90% to 100% over half an hour?
SALL666PL said:
And it does not load you anymore? Phone? From 90% to 100% over half an hour?
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Sorry, I don't understand what you mean...
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Does 90% to 100% battery charge for a long time? About an hour you are loading these 10%
SALL666PL said:
Does 90% to 100% battery charge for a long time? About an hour you are loading these 10%
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I really don't know what you're saying. Sot means screen on time. On the 3.81 firmware I'm getting about 4h sot, just browsing, youtube mainly on wifi, a little bit of data traffic. 4h, no games with screen brightness at minimum is just pathetic... Bad deal with this phone...
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cojocar.andrei said:
I really don't know what you're saying. Sot means screen on time. On the 3.81 firmware I'm getting about 4h sot, just browsing, youtube mainly on wifi, a little bit of data traffic. 4h, no games with screen brightness at minimum is just pathetic... Bad deal with this phone...
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He's probably saying that his phone takes too long to charge from 90% to 100%. With that said though, I have yet to update to the latest version.
tiktakt0w said:
He's probably saying that his phone takes too long to charge from 90% to 100%. With that said though, I have yet to updated to the latest version.
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exactly
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exactly
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Even without updating to the latest version, I sometimes experience that phenomenon. Heck, my phone sometimes blatantly stops charging for no reason at all and I would have to turn off the phone to be able to charge it.
No problems for me thus far, but the battery is extremly week. I wonder if undervolting the cpu would increse a little bit the life per charge cycle... Anyway, I regret buying this phone, but it's my fault entirely that I did...
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tiktakt0w said:
Even without updating to the latest version, I sometimes experience that phenomenon. Heck, my phone sometimes blatantly stops charging for no reason at all and I would have to turn off the phone to be able to charge it.
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Today I experienced the same unfortunately ... I plug the charger and nothing the diode is not lit and there is no sound that loads, under the computer immediately detects and charges ... I have to turn off and turn on the phone to start charging, strange is enough
SALL666PL said:
Today I experienced the same unfortunately ... I plug the charger and nothing the diode is not lit and there is no sound that loads, under the computer immediately detects and charges ... I have to turn off and turn on the phone to start charging, strange is enough
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Probably you have a bad cable, charger or even the inside charge circuitry could be bad...
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SALL666PL said:
Today I experienced the same unfortunately ... I plug the charger and nothing the diode is not lit and there is no sound that loads, under the computer immediately detects and charges ... I have to turn off and turn on the phone to start charging, strange is enough
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Unfortunately, my problem escalated quickly. The phone isn't charging anymore and I've tried different cables and chargers. It seems like my xa has a hardware problem, thankfully though I haven't rooted and unlocked the bootloader of this thing. Gomna have to send it back for warranty.
cojocar.andrei said:
Probably you have a bad cable, charger or even the inside charge circuitry could be bad...
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Charger and original cable
SALL666PL said:
Does 90% to 100% battery charge for a long time? About an hour you are loading these 10%
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I think it is because QNOVO ADAPTIVE charging
That adapts your charging behaviour
Like many of us leaves the phone to charging over full night that damages the battery
So sony added a featutre qnovo adaptive charging that adapts charging behaviour and if someone is one of those people who left there mobile to plug in full night
It will automatically decreases charging speed from 90 to 100 %