Hello, I would like to know if there are some "rules" considering charging my phone ? For example, do I need to wait until my phone shuts down or doesn't it matter when I charge it.
main thing is dont play games when charging, everything else is fine. it charges faster with phone off than on
1- don't use it while charging.
2- don't let the battery completely drain (charge when it reaches 15%)
3- try to avoid charging overnight
Avoid using it while charging if you can. Don't drain the battery completely before charging, try to leave at least 10-15% battery before you charge it. Don't charge it overnight as the Honor 8 has fast charging capabilities. If need charged it in the morning, before you get ready for the day.
I don't agree that it is harmful to charge a phone overnight. Once a smartphone is fully charged it has a built in mechanism that stops the charging thus preventing the phone from overcharging.
heap1 said:
I don't agree that it is harmful to charge a phone overnight. Once a smartphone is fully charged it has a built in mechanism that stops the charging thus preventing the phone from overcharging.
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But you have fast charge in this device so no need to charge ir overnight you can do it in the morning if you need it
sTefIx420 said:
But you have fast charge in this device so no need to charge ir overnight you can do it in the morning if you need it
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That's true. However, there shouldn't be any danger of damaging the phone if you do charge it overnight. Either way you decide to charge it should be OK.
Oh okay, one more question; do I always have to charge it to 100% or is it okay to remove the charger at (for example) 58%?
Look if your going to charge the phone do it to 100% But if you need to go out before it's fully charged its not going to do anything to the phone.. Just walk with your charger and charge it when your able to..
Haroun16 said:
Oh okay, one more question; do I always have to charge it to 100% or is it okay to remove the charger at (for example) 58%?
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For modern batteries, it does no harm to unplug your device before 100%.
Actually it is "healthiest" for batteries to be kept between 80%-20%
heap1 said:
That's true. However, there shouldn't be any danger of damaging the phone if you do charge it overnight. Either way you decide to charge it should be OK.
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While that is true. But there is always a chance that the Lithium Ion battery could become unstable after its been used for a while.
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Hi i dont know why my battery isnt completely charging! or the battery charger info is broken! anyone else not charging to 100%?
It probably hits 100% then starts draining slightly to keep it from over charging. Mine gets to 99% then I unplug and replug it and it hits 100. But that has happened with a lot of devices for me.
Happens on my evo as well. You can get around it by flashing a kernel that does trickle charging which I'm sure we'll get for the tf sooner or later.
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Punchatron said:
Happens on my evo as well. You can get around it by flashing a kernel that does trickle charging which I'm sure we'll get for the tf sooner or later.
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I would NOT use an sbc kernal on this battery, they are known to shorten battery life. Cell phone batteries are a dime a dozen, this thing is both non-user replacable and most likely not cheap.
Pretty sure its a lithium ion battery inside and you shouldnt overcharge those. You're best off keeping it between 30-90% and doing a drain and full charge once a month to prolong its life. The charger should stop charging when the battery is full on it's own anyways if you do leave it plugged in. I think it's a European law to have that as a safety feature, probably an American law for this too. So if the charger is staying hot a few minutes after your device has hit 100% charge, you've got a problem. Mine does get to 100% but yes it takes a while to top up, that's just the way these batteries operate.
Do i let the phone shut off from the battery reaching 0%, then charge it to 100% and be on my merry way?
I've read multiple theories, but I think u should take it down out of the box, then shut off and charge to full...I remember ASUS recommending that to a media outlet when the Transformer 300 came out a few weeks ago...so that is what I am going to do when I get mine.
Thats exactly what I did, I let mine completely die and then charged to 100%.
Be careful with how you charge the phone, rather with how low you let it get.
Depending on how technical you want to get about it purposefully letting a battery drop to absolute zero can cause some odd chemical reactions that while not immediately evident can some times shorten battery life.
I would recommend taking it out of the box and using it until it is low but not dead. Maybe 10 or so percent and then either turn it off and charge it or leave it on and charge it just do not pull the plug on the charger until it is at 100%.
Valdeck said:
Be careful with how you charge the phone, rather with how low you let it get.
Depending on how technical you want to get about it purposefully letting a battery drop to absolute zero can cause some odd chemical reactions that while not immediately evident can some times shorten battery life.
I would recommend taking it out of the box and using it until it is low but not dead. Maybe 10 or so percent and then either turn it off and charge it or leave it on and charge it just do not pull the plug on the charger until it is at 100%.
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This.
Full battery cycles are not good for long term life of Li ion batteries.
Also, its unlikely, but occasionally happens where discharging the battery to shutoff will render the battery unable to take a charge. The safety circuit on the battery is supposed to prevent this, but its not failsafe. I've seen more than a few reports on previous HTC devices where this happened. And since the battery on the One X is not easily replaced, the result can be disastrous.
The battery meters on phones are not very accurate in the best of circumstances. No need to drain to shutoff, 10 or 20% is fine. No value added to draining to shutoff, and the consequences can be very bad.
Drain to 10% or even 20%, charge to full, repeat 2-3 times. This is done just to calibrate the battery meter on the phone. Its a misconception that you can somehow increase battery life by "conditioning" the battery. But modern Li ion batteries do not suffer from memory effects, and conditioning only works for older tech NiCad batteries.
I do the same thing for all of my phones.
1. Activate and mess the heck out of it until it dies completely.
2. Charge it up to 100%
3. Mess the heck out of it again until it dies completely.
4. Charge it up to 100%
5. Mess the heck out of it again until it dies completely.
6. Charge it up to 100%
Then use it normally
Mine came dead! it didnt even turn on. so I'm charging it now
mehdi_s82 said:
Mine came dead! it didnt even turn on. so I'm charging it now
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That stinks. It must have been on in the box like that other xda member on here claimed
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Mine came with 1% battery so I just turned it back off and now I'm charging it up, i think the led will turn green when it's ready
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How do you tell if the phone is charged to 100% while off?
While on, my battery percentage doesn't seem to go past 99%. Is that correct or is this last 1% just taking a very long time?
Update: NVM last 1% just took forever. LED does turn green when fully charged.
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The LED will turn green once it's 100%.
Don't worry about letting the phone die and charging it up to 100%.
These batteries don't have a "memory" like older phones
mehdi_s82 said:
Mine came dead! it didnt even turn on. so I'm charging it now
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Mine came dead too. Charged it to 100% and now been using it and so far have 36% on 3h 9m on battery.
Screen at 84%
Does the battery life get better? Because it seems to be draining rather quick. Even though I have screen brightness less than half.
jshahanii said:
Thats exactly what I did, I let mine completely die and then charged to 100%.
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truciet said:
I do the same thing for all of my phones.
1. Activate and mess the heck out of it until it dies completely.
2. Charge it up to 100%
3. Mess the heck out of it again until it dies completely.
4. Charge it up to 100%
5. Mess the heck out of it again until it dies completely.
6. Charge it up to 100%
Then use it normally
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Maroon Mushroom said:
Don't worry about letting the phone die and charging it up to 100%.
These batteries don't have a "memory" like older phones
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@Maroon Mushroom, Correct these lithium batteries dont have memory effect, but over discharging them will shorten its life.
I dont want to sound like an expert, but discharging the battery until it dies is not recommended. It will affect battery life/performance.
A couple of good references here: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/discharge_methods
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_charge_when_to_charge_table
Ya, we use Lithium Ion (Li-Ion) batteries now which dont have a memory. The older Lithium Polymer (Li-Pol) batteries did have a memory and needed a certain charge method to get the longes life cycle out of it.
Awesome, thanks everyone
I turned it off at 20% and wen't to go buy my MicroSIM (ugh...) cant wait to play with it tomorrow
Why would you buy it? Pretty sure they would give one to you for free
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bought it off Kijiji
It's offered by Rogers, but i'm on Telus
Hmm, i hate the idea of letting it die completely. But what i've always done is turned everything on and ran it through a low-powered usb source so it has a charge but the battery is still draining. So even if the battery runs dead it has power via USB plug [make sense?]. Usually having everything on [i do mean everything] and downloading a torrent so the internet is constantly under use. Then again i'm not sure how the One X will work out for this, but thats what i'm planning .
guys its lithium...u cant drain it to 0...even when android shuts down your at around 3.6volts. thats definetly not 0volts. no memory and android wont let you ruin your battery...so charge however whenever.
im qualified in lead acid. ni cad. nimh and lithium batteries. trust me..u cant hurt it unless you short it! !
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because it takes forever to charge the phone completely
It is fine to leave it charging overnight. I do it all the time.
I always charge mine while I sleep. I work nights so it's the only time I get.to charge it. I have no issues
It should be just fine
I do it all the time too
Nothing has happened so far
I also do the same and no issues but I read somewhere the battery can get damaged or the Mah can go down
Phone goes into trickle charge when nearing/at full. No problems with overnight charging.
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I also do the same and no issues but I read somewhere the battery can get damaged or the Mah can go down
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This might have been true in the past with older battery/charging technologies, but isn't true anymore.
The capacity of the battery will go down over time with normal use. Unless you plan on keeping your phone for 10 years, I wouldn't worry about it.
So guys i just bought this phone few days ago, and the first charge was only untill 96% and then i unplugged it, because its take too long... is this can cause some problem to my battery? or is it still safe??
pardon mee for my bad english, not my native language..
razerguy71 said:
So guys i just bought this phone few days ago, and the first charge was only untill 96% and then i unplugged it, because its take too long... is this can cause some problem to my battery? or is it still safe??
pardon mee for my bad english, not my native language..
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Did you use the original charger and cable? Of you don't use those you'll experience slow charging. Charging only to 96% won't have any bad effects on your battery.
Heisenberg said:
Did you use the original charger and cable? Of you don't use those you'll experience slow charging. Charging only to 96% won't have any bad effects on your battery.
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so youre saying that my battery is still normal?
and btw yeah i use the original cable and charger, now i can charged to 100% after i let my phone die (0%) and then charge it uninterrupted overnight (like about 6hours)
thank you for the answer!
razerguy71 said:
so youre saying that my battery is still normal?
and btw yeah i use the original cable and charger, now i can charged to 100% after i let my phone die (0%) and then charge it uninterrupted overnight (like about 6hours)
thank you for the answer!
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Yes the battery should be perfectly ok. Sometimes the calibration can be a bit off but you've charged to 100% now it's all good.
I don't think charging your phone to 96% or whatever will cause any damage to your battery and why would it?
mayank6169 said:
I don't think charging your phone to 96% or whatever will cause any damage to your battery and why would it?
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What he was saying was that it wouldn't charge past 96%.
Heisenberg said:
What he was saying was that it wouldn't charge past 96%.
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hey i have another question, this thing have been in my head for a while now i just wanted to make it clear for me
for example i have 80% of battery then charged it untill 85% and then unplugged it and use it for a while until drop to lets say 80% again, and then charged it again to 85%
is that also safe to do?
i just did that when unlocking bootloader and installing twrp recovery, seems like my battery been draining pretty fast after that..
sorry if this noob question annoy you, i just want to make it clear
razerguy71 said:
hey i have another question, this thing have been in my head for a while now i just wanted to make it clear for me
for example i have 80% of battery then charged it untill 85% and then unplugged it and use it for a while until drop to lets say 80% again, and then charged it again to 85%
is that also safe to do?
i just did that when unlocking bootloader and installing twrp recovery, seems like my battery been draining pretty fast after that..
sorry if this noob question annoy you, i just want to make it clear
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That's perfectly fine with a lithium battery. Small top-up changes are actually preferred. It isn't recommended you let the phone fully discharge very often, it also isn't recommended to keep it at peak voltage (100%) for very long (try not to charge overnight). A lithium battery is at its healthiest within the 40%-80% range. So yeah, top-up charges are perfectly fine. About every 30-40 charge cycles (roughly once a month is fine) you should do a calibration by discharging almost fully (from 100%), then charging back to 100%. There are some good articles online here:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/do_and_dont_battery_table
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
Hi.
I charge my phone overnight. 8 hours. Will that degrade the battery? Or does the phone prevent over charging?
Thanks in advance.
I wouldn't worry about it
No, if you leave it on 16 hours you'll get 200% battery level. Brilliant
RogerNZ said:
Hi.
I charge my phone overnight. 8 hours. Will that degrade the battery? Or does the phone prevent over charging?
Thanks in advance.
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The phone prevents overcharging, however it is still not good for the battery to
a) always charge it to 100%
b) keep it at 100% for 8hours
The general advice is to keep the battery between 20 - 80%. Granted, most people need a full charge to start the day and some people don't hold on to their phones for long.
Fast charging degenerates the battery faster, a fact oems omit to point out in their quest for faster charging speeds.
If you're not in a rush, you should just use a normal charger.
No damage done
And any long term effects will not be noticeable
By the time you notice any battery degeneration from keeping it at 100% you'd probably be on another phone.
hi are you rooted? if so I suggest you use an app called Battery Charge Limit. You can set when your device stops charging (preferably at 80%) and when it starts charging back up again. Again, you need root.
Since launch, most of the time I do 20-80%. So far so good