Stupid questions late at night - Droid Ultra Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi, I'm looking at getting a 32GB XT1080M to use as a test phone for roms, and possibly to develop on... As such I want to have one with an unlocked bootloader, but I haven't seen one for sale.
The Sunshine website states any 2013 Droid running 4.4.3 or below IS unlockable, so as long as I don't buy one running 4.4.4, I should be safe, right?
Second, I seem to recall something about being able to tell versions by the different storage sizes - something like all 16GB models came with 4.4.4 factory-installed. Is that correct? I thought I had bookmarked those threads but I can't find them at the moment.

Hi,
4.4.4, build 4-21 is the last one that can be bootloader unlocked with Sunshine. Go for that or anything below (4.4 or 4.4.2).
I advise that you ask the seller before purchasing to verify the version (Android version, System version and Build number), then search it if it can be unlocked.
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Thanks for that detail. I certainly am asking, though it's not always easy. The seller I'm currently talking to keeps replying that they can install the Android version I want. Which means that it's either not updated to 4.4.4, or that they think you can downgrade from it.

Yeah, not easy with sellers who don't know a thing about their devices... I hope you find a device with an appropriate version or a developer edition.
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nagim, would you also happen to know which release prevented downgrading to older versions?
I was under the impression that was a KitKat limitation, in which case I would pretty much have to find a phone still on 4.2.2 to be able to do any work with JellyBean. Is that correct?

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[Q] Limited Edition, Developers Version Optimus 3D

Hello,
I have purchased a used optimus 3D from ebay.
The description shows "P920, Limited Edition, Developers Version, Unlocked"
the box of the device is exactly the same as the retail version (red box)
it is used but appearantly in an excellent condition.
my question is, can I use the same root that your are guys are using?
can I flash the same ROMs meant for the retail version?
Are there any differences between what I have purchased and the retail version?
thank you and I hope I will enjoy my new phone
may i know the stock rom version of your o3d.?
Yep, Give sceenschot or write what firmware u have.
But it should be the same
I haven't received it yet. It will take few days as it is an international shipping.
will let you know once I receive it
it will sjut be one of the google i/o dev phones and no different to the retail version.
Finally received the phone and gave a negative feedback to the seller for lack of communication and very delayed shipping (Did not ship untill I disputed the transaction). Anyway...
Device is P920
Software Version is P920-V08j-MAY-03-2011
I will try OTA update when I go home.
That's the same phone I have. OTA didn't work for me (in June/July) so I rooted with Super one click, installed CWM and have been updating that way.
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[Q] unlock bootloader or downgrading system under 9.18.79.XT926

I have motorola Razr Maxx HD... recently I updated system to 9.18.79. However, today i saw cyanogenmod 10.2 version roll out and I really want to try 4.3 version since I have been stuck on 4.1 for almost a year. Unfortunately, when I try using motopocalypse to unlock bootloader, it keeps failing. Than I was thinking maybe I can downgrading back to the old version than unlock bootloader but on the website it says DO NOT USE THIS UTILITY ON THE LATEST 4.1.2 OTA UPDATE. I guess 9.18.79 is the newest OTA version. Therefore, I was wondering if there is anyway that i can unlock bootloader under 9.18.79 or downgrade whole system to lower version. So I can install cyanogenmod 10.2
Thank you
You're out of luck, sorry. There's no way to unlock after taking the newest OTA.
I believe that the correct answers to your questions about your recently updated Razr Maxx HD are -- NO, at this time there is no way to unlock the bootloader if you've installed the 9.18.79 update, YES, you can still root your phone. YES, you can downgrade your phone to 9.16.6 (but you still won't be able to unlock your bootloader after doing so). I have a Maxx HD with exactly this set of circumstances. The phone was running 9.18.79 when I got it. After having no luck unlocking the bootloader (as expected) I was able to root it using a method I found in this forum, then installed SafeStrap, then installed a couple of older stock kernel-based custom ROMs. It's certainly not as good as before the update but I'm rooted, all my apps run and I'm rid of all the Verizon bloatware. Not perfect but not bad.
lesdense said:
I believe that the correct answers to your questions about your recently updated Razr Maxx HD are -- NO, at this time there is no way to unlock the bootloader if you've installed the 9.18.79 update, YES, you can still root your phone. YES, you can downgrade your phone to 9.16.6 (but you still won't be able to unlock your bootloader after doing so). I have a Maxx HD with exactly this set of circumstances. The phone was running 9.18.79 when I got it. After having no luck unlocking the bootloader (as expected) I was able to root it using a method I found in this forum, then installed SafeStrap, then installed a couple of older stock kernel-based custom ROMs. It's certainly not as good as before the update but I'm rooted, all my apps run and I'm rid of all the Verizon bloatware. Not perfect but not bad.
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Thank you for the reply...yeah i am able to root my phone...but performance is still under my expectation...Just really want to try out of 4.3 because it seem to have much better optimize. Thank you for all the information..
jackforever said:
Thank you for the reply...yeah i am able to root my phone...but performance is still under my expectation...Just really want to try out of 4.3 because it seem to have much better optimize. Thank you for all the information..
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Well that's why you never take updates without knowing for sure you can still use tools. Lesson learned.
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deeje00 said:
Well that's why you never take updates without knowing for sure you can still use tools. Lesson learned.
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I'm in the same boat, I have one question. Does anyone use the Motorola way to unlock bootloader? I found the website to unlock, wondered why that isn't an option.
It's for developer editions only.
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Thanks for answering these questions. Who and how close are they to unlocking it? Do you see it happening soon?
dudewithspots said:
Thanks for answering these questions. Who and how close are they to unlocking it? Do you see it happening soon?
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I don't think anyone is working on this. The guy who came up with the exploit to unlock the bootloader in the first place said immediately after releasing it that he isn't touching Motorola devices' bootloaders anymore because they have become so difficult to crack. The update in the 9.16 OTA patched a pretty big security hole in the basic Android framework. That was a good thing because it prevents thieves from hacking your phone (hopefully) but it also took away a lot of our "freedom" with these devices, unfortunately.
Basically the process of finding a way to unlock the bootloaders is extremely difficult and not a rewarding enough venture for anyone to bother with right now. Don't hold your breath for a bootloader unlock anytime soon (likely never). If you've updated to 9.16 (I'm with you here, after replacing a bootloader unlocked, rooted and running CM10.1 phone with a cracked screen through insurance and receiving a replacement with an un-unlockable bootloader out of the box) kiss your ROMing dreams goodbye. The best you can do with the phone now is root it, install SafeStrap and run ROMs based off the stock kernel.
My advice to any and all willing to listen:
Get away from Verizon as fast as you can. They are making sure their phones release now-a-days with un-unlockable bootloaders. The upcoming Droid Ultra, Maxx, and Mini as well as the Moto X will all be locked down with no hope of unlocking their bootloaders on Verizon. The ATT Moto X will also not have an unlockable bootloader.
The best carrier for devs and flash hounds will be T-Mobile from here on out as they are marketing to people with their own devices and not locking down the software the way the big V is.
This really sucks because my favorite thing about my Razr HD Maxx is the battery, and the only thing close to or better as far as battery size/life coming out is the new Droid Maxx. With out being abkle to install a custom ROM, though I feel like I'm using an iPhone. But a good alternative may be an S4 on T-Mobs with an extended battery (thanks to Samsungs removable batteries) or charging case or something like that.
You are a wealth of information, thank you!
Would I be able to install any rom with safestrap? and then I would just be stuck with current kernal? Or does the rom have to be special in some way? I want to get the CyanogenMod 10.3 version. Thoughts? If I can't, what would be the best option as far as stock kernal rom?
swboland said:
I don't think anyone is working on this. The guy who came up with the exploit to unlock the bootloader in the first place said immediately after releasing it that he isn't touching Motorola devices' bootloaders anymore because they have become so difficult to crack. The update in the 9.16 OTA patched a pretty big security hole in the basic Android framework. That was a good thing because it prevents thieves from hacking your phone (hopefully) but it also took away a lot of our "freedom" with these devices, unfortunately.
Basically the process of finding a way to unlock the bootloaders is extremely difficult and not a rewarding enough venture for anyone to bother with right now. Don't hold your breath for a bootloader unlock anytime soon (likely never). If you've updated to 9.16 (I'm with you here, after replacing a bootloader unlocked, rooted and running CM10.1 phone with a cracked screen through insurance and receiving a replacement with an un-unlockable bootloader out of the box) kiss your ROMing dreams goodbye. The best you can do with the phone now is root it, install SafeStrap and run ROMs based off the stock kernel.
My advice to any and all willing to listen:
Get away from Verizon as fast as you can. They are making sure their phones release now-a-days with un-unlockable bootloaders. The upcoming Droid Ultra, Maxx, and Mini as well as the Moto X will all be locked down with no hope of unlocking their bootloaders on Verizon. The ATT Moto X will also not have an unlockable bootloader.
The best carrier for devs and flash hounds will be T-Mobile from here on out as they are marketing to people with their own devices and not locking down the software the way the big V is.
This really sucks because my favorite thing about my Razr HD Maxx is the battery, and the only thing close to or better as far as battery size/life coming out is the new Droid Maxx. With out being abkle to install a custom ROM, though I feel like I'm using an iPhone. But a good alternative may be an S4 on T-Mobs with an extended battery (thanks to Samsungs removable batteries) or charging case or something like that.
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Hey man, So I have SafeStrap but I am having a hard time finding roms that will work with safestrap. do you know of any?
dudewithspots said:
You are a wealth of information, thank you!
Would I be able to install any rom with safestrap? and then I would just be stuck with current kernal? Or does the rom have to be special in some way? I want to get the CyanogenMod 10.3 version. Thoughts? If I can't, what would be the best option as far as stock kernal rom?
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None of the new roms only roms based on stock. Your gonna have to dig to roms started before April.
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no exciting news about the current version of unlock still?
The new one probably won't be unlocked.
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I unfortunately upgraded to 9.18.79 a while back and now that i'd like to unlock the bootloader, I can't.
However, I do have best buy insurance, assuming my screen is broken, I can get the device replaced with a refurbished unit. What are the odds the refurbished unit has not been updated to a version that cannot be unlocked?
thanks
ajent said:
I unfortunately upgraded to 9.18.79 a while back and now that i'd like to unlock the bootloader, I can't.
However, I do have best buy insurance, assuming my screen is broken, I can get the device replaced with a refurbished unit. What are the odds the refurbished unit has not been updated to a version that cannot be unlocked?
thanks
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The odds are getting slimmer and slimmer as the days go on, but I have still seen a few people get replacements that have not been updated.

hi new here - sold the htc one

i sold the htc one just in time. the htc one plus has just been announced.
i am going to miss that phone for sure.
well lets move to the maxx. right off the bat i accidently updated the os. setup the nokia hands free charger and loaded up foxfi.
i have been reading up on these forums for awhile can someone please answer me
is 4.4 unrootable for sure. i am reading some mixed answers from this forum. if so which technique do i use?
is foxfi working on 4.4 or some alternative? if so what programs
i am unsure is the bootloader unlocked? and are roms, kernals, and bootloaders replaceable? again how>
No root for 4.4 just yet. Bootloader is locked on non-developer phones, and no big ROM action at all. When/if 4.4 pre-root fxz, or root exploit comes out, THEN will we see ROMs
fat-fingered and Maxx-ed out.
belovedson said:
i sold the htc one just in time. the htc one plus has just been announced.
i am going to miss that phone for sure.
well lets move to the maxx. right off the bat i accidently updated the os. setup the nokia hands free charger and loaded up foxfi.
i have been reading up on these forums for awhile can someone please answer me
is 4.4 unrootable for sure. i am reading some mixed answers from this forum. if so which technique do i use?
is foxfi working on 4.4 or some alternative? if so what programs
i am unsure is the bootloader unlocked? and are roms, kernals, and bootloaders replaceable? again how>
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Where did you see a release of the one +??
cold21blooded said:
Where did you see a release of the one +??
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No release but betas are out. The finished product is expected to come out in a month or two
I accidently updated to 4.3 and don't want to do the same for 4.4 how can I delete the delete or where is it

What to look for on new purchase.

Hey guys, seeing as jcase and company just released bootloader unlock for the max I was thinking of upgrading.
Just wanted to know what I need to look for in system information before I buy the device to ensure it can be unlocked with sunshine.
I know it has to be on Android 4.4.3 or lower to obtain root. From what it looks like sunshine requires just root to work correctly. Is there anything else? Does anyone know if write on the /system partition is needed to?
Also is which root method should be used for 4.4.x moto devices (with the exception of 4.4.4)
I know about the slap/pwn my moto and pie.
Thanks.
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[Q] downgrade 4.4.2 and install CM12.1

I just want to say thank you in advance for any help that is given, I use these threads a lot and this is the first time I've had to post a thread because I couldn't find an answer already.
Anyway, I have a Samsung S3 SCH-I535 with Verizon running the latest bootloader and Android 4.4.2. I want to install the latest Cyanogenmod and from what I've found online. The only way to do this is to downgrade sense the bootloader is locked. I've downlaoded all the files I need but odin gives me errors because the software is not authorized. I've tried safestrap and have succussfully installed the superliterom ver. 3 but ASOP do not work with safestrap so my only option is to downgrade the bootloader and manually install the latest CM12.1. Please someone help me with this. I've exhausted all my resources and don't know where to go next.
jthompson553 said:
I just want to say thank you in advance for any help that is given, I use these threads a lot and this is the first time I've had to post a thread because I couldn't find an answer already.
Anyway, I have a Samsung S3 SCH-I535 with Verizon running the latest bootloader and Android 4.4.2. I want to install the latest Cyanogenmod and from what I've found online. The only way to do this is to downgrade sense the bootloader is locked. I've downlaoded all the files I need but odin gives me errors because the software is not authorized. I've tried safestrap and have succussfully installed the superliterom ver. 3 but ASOP do not work with safestrap so my only option is to downgrade the bootloader and manually install the latest CM12.1. Please someone help me with this. I've exhausted all my resources and don't know where to go next.
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Mobile tech videos has a site with a mail in boot loader downgrade service. Seriously reputable. Takes a couple days and when you get it back your back to 4.1.2 with unlocked boot loader and back to flashing whatever you please
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MIKEYSAKZ said:
Mobile tech videos has a site with a mail in boot loader downgrade service. Seriously reputable. Takes a couple days and when you get it back your back to 4.1.2 with unlocked boot loader and back to flashing whatever you please
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I've been following the mobile tech thread for quite some time, I'd take a look at this first before even considering them
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306767
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If there is any way around the q-fuse, I haven't heard of it.
442 is stuck with locked bootloader ROMs, so far as I know.
There are a couple companies that offer downgrades and unlocked bootloaders, Mobile Tech Reviews being one of them, and the other being FWIW (I think).
I've heard good things about both, but have never tried them out.
DaJesuZ said:
There are a couple companies that offer downgrades and unlocked bootloaders, Mobile Tech Reviews being one of them, and the other being FWIW (I think).
I've heard good things about both, but have never tried them out.
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As I noted above I'd be very careful with mobile tech videos as a ton of users have reported a not so great experience with them
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