I have motorola Razr Maxx HD... recently I updated system to 9.18.79. However, today i saw cyanogenmod 10.2 version roll out and I really want to try 4.3 version since I have been stuck on 4.1 for almost a year. Unfortunately, when I try using motopocalypse to unlock bootloader, it keeps failing. Than I was thinking maybe I can downgrading back to the old version than unlock bootloader but on the website it says DO NOT USE THIS UTILITY ON THE LATEST 4.1.2 OTA UPDATE. I guess 9.18.79 is the newest OTA version. Therefore, I was wondering if there is anyway that i can unlock bootloader under 9.18.79 or downgrade whole system to lower version. So I can install cyanogenmod 10.2
Thank you
You're out of luck, sorry. There's no way to unlock after taking the newest OTA.
I believe that the correct answers to your questions about your recently updated Razr Maxx HD are -- NO, at this time there is no way to unlock the bootloader if you've installed the 9.18.79 update, YES, you can still root your phone. YES, you can downgrade your phone to 9.16.6 (but you still won't be able to unlock your bootloader after doing so). I have a Maxx HD with exactly this set of circumstances. The phone was running 9.18.79 when I got it. After having no luck unlocking the bootloader (as expected) I was able to root it using a method I found in this forum, then installed SafeStrap, then installed a couple of older stock kernel-based custom ROMs. It's certainly not as good as before the update but I'm rooted, all my apps run and I'm rid of all the Verizon bloatware. Not perfect but not bad.
lesdense said:
I believe that the correct answers to your questions about your recently updated Razr Maxx HD are -- NO, at this time there is no way to unlock the bootloader if you've installed the 9.18.79 update, YES, you can still root your phone. YES, you can downgrade your phone to 9.16.6 (but you still won't be able to unlock your bootloader after doing so). I have a Maxx HD with exactly this set of circumstances. The phone was running 9.18.79 when I got it. After having no luck unlocking the bootloader (as expected) I was able to root it using a method I found in this forum, then installed SafeStrap, then installed a couple of older stock kernel-based custom ROMs. It's certainly not as good as before the update but I'm rooted, all my apps run and I'm rid of all the Verizon bloatware. Not perfect but not bad.
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Thank you for the reply...yeah i am able to root my phone...but performance is still under my expectation...Just really want to try out of 4.3 because it seem to have much better optimize. Thank you for all the information..
jackforever said:
Thank you for the reply...yeah i am able to root my phone...but performance is still under my expectation...Just really want to try out of 4.3 because it seem to have much better optimize. Thank you for all the information..
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Well that's why you never take updates without knowing for sure you can still use tools. Lesson learned.
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Well that's why you never take updates without knowing for sure you can still use tools. Lesson learned.
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I'm in the same boat, I have one question. Does anyone use the Motorola way to unlock bootloader? I found the website to unlock, wondered why that isn't an option.
It's for developer editions only.
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Thanks for answering these questions. Who and how close are they to unlocking it? Do you see it happening soon?
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Thanks for answering these questions. Who and how close are they to unlocking it? Do you see it happening soon?
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I don't think anyone is working on this. The guy who came up with the exploit to unlock the bootloader in the first place said immediately after releasing it that he isn't touching Motorola devices' bootloaders anymore because they have become so difficult to crack. The update in the 9.16 OTA patched a pretty big security hole in the basic Android framework. That was a good thing because it prevents thieves from hacking your phone (hopefully) but it also took away a lot of our "freedom" with these devices, unfortunately.
Basically the process of finding a way to unlock the bootloaders is extremely difficult and not a rewarding enough venture for anyone to bother with right now. Don't hold your breath for a bootloader unlock anytime soon (likely never). If you've updated to 9.16 (I'm with you here, after replacing a bootloader unlocked, rooted and running CM10.1 phone with a cracked screen through insurance and receiving a replacement with an un-unlockable bootloader out of the box) kiss your ROMing dreams goodbye. The best you can do with the phone now is root it, install SafeStrap and run ROMs based off the stock kernel.
My advice to any and all willing to listen:
Get away from Verizon as fast as you can. They are making sure their phones release now-a-days with un-unlockable bootloaders. The upcoming Droid Ultra, Maxx, and Mini as well as the Moto X will all be locked down with no hope of unlocking their bootloaders on Verizon. The ATT Moto X will also not have an unlockable bootloader.
The best carrier for devs and flash hounds will be T-Mobile from here on out as they are marketing to people with their own devices and not locking down the software the way the big V is.
This really sucks because my favorite thing about my Razr HD Maxx is the battery, and the only thing close to or better as far as battery size/life coming out is the new Droid Maxx. With out being abkle to install a custom ROM, though I feel like I'm using an iPhone. But a good alternative may be an S4 on T-Mobs with an extended battery (thanks to Samsungs removable batteries) or charging case or something like that.
You are a wealth of information, thank you!
Would I be able to install any rom with safestrap? and then I would just be stuck with current kernal? Or does the rom have to be special in some way? I want to get the CyanogenMod 10.3 version. Thoughts? If I can't, what would be the best option as far as stock kernal rom?
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I don't think anyone is working on this. The guy who came up with the exploit to unlock the bootloader in the first place said immediately after releasing it that he isn't touching Motorola devices' bootloaders anymore because they have become so difficult to crack. The update in the 9.16 OTA patched a pretty big security hole in the basic Android framework. That was a good thing because it prevents thieves from hacking your phone (hopefully) but it also took away a lot of our "freedom" with these devices, unfortunately.
Basically the process of finding a way to unlock the bootloaders is extremely difficult and not a rewarding enough venture for anyone to bother with right now. Don't hold your breath for a bootloader unlock anytime soon (likely never). If you've updated to 9.16 (I'm with you here, after replacing a bootloader unlocked, rooted and running CM10.1 phone with a cracked screen through insurance and receiving a replacement with an un-unlockable bootloader out of the box) kiss your ROMing dreams goodbye. The best you can do with the phone now is root it, install SafeStrap and run ROMs based off the stock kernel.
My advice to any and all willing to listen:
Get away from Verizon as fast as you can. They are making sure their phones release now-a-days with un-unlockable bootloaders. The upcoming Droid Ultra, Maxx, and Mini as well as the Moto X will all be locked down with no hope of unlocking their bootloaders on Verizon. The ATT Moto X will also not have an unlockable bootloader.
The best carrier for devs and flash hounds will be T-Mobile from here on out as they are marketing to people with their own devices and not locking down the software the way the big V is.
This really sucks because my favorite thing about my Razr HD Maxx is the battery, and the only thing close to or better as far as battery size/life coming out is the new Droid Maxx. With out being abkle to install a custom ROM, though I feel like I'm using an iPhone. But a good alternative may be an S4 on T-Mobs with an extended battery (thanks to Samsungs removable batteries) or charging case or something like that.
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Hey man, So I have SafeStrap but I am having a hard time finding roms that will work with safestrap. do you know of any?
dudewithspots said:
You are a wealth of information, thank you!
Would I be able to install any rom with safestrap? and then I would just be stuck with current kernal? Or does the rom have to be special in some way? I want to get the CyanogenMod 10.3 version. Thoughts? If I can't, what would be the best option as far as stock kernal rom?
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None of the new roms only roms based on stock. Your gonna have to dig to roms started before April.
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no exciting news about the current version of unlock still?
The new one probably won't be unlocked.
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I unfortunately upgraded to 9.18.79 a while back and now that i'd like to unlock the bootloader, I can't.
However, I do have best buy insurance, assuming my screen is broken, I can get the device replaced with a refurbished unit. What are the odds the refurbished unit has not been updated to a version that cannot be unlocked?
thanks
ajent said:
I unfortunately upgraded to 9.18.79 a while back and now that i'd like to unlock the bootloader, I can't.
However, I do have best buy insurance, assuming my screen is broken, I can get the device replaced with a refurbished unit. What are the odds the refurbished unit has not been updated to a version that cannot be unlocked?
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The odds are getting slimmer and slimmer as the days go on, but I have still seen a few people get replacements that have not been updated.
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Hey guys, I have an Atrix HD with an unlocked bootloader but Im trying to help out my friend who has a RAZR HD...I hadnt realized that Moto released an OTA that patched the bootloader exploit. It seems to me that new RAZR HD users are back to Safestrap, but are there any good rom built for safestrap? I was at least able to get him rooted with the newer version of Motochopper.
So what are all the people with locked bootloaders doing nowadays?
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Hey guys, I have an Atrix HD with an unlocked bootloader but Im trying to help out my friend who has a RAZR HD...I hadnt realized that Moto released an OTA that patched the bootloader exploit. It seems to me that new RAZR HD users are back to Safestrap, but are there any good rom built for safestrap? I was at least able to get him rooted with the newer version of Motochopper.
So what are all the people with locked bootloaders doing nowadays?
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Check this thread out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2424147
You can try Nexesque and Batakang. Probably some others, as long as they don't flash a non-stock kernel. Your friend's options are a bit limited, but it's definitely better than nothing.
I had a droid RAZR maxx HD with PAC ROM on it and was in love, and with this phones hardware and the updates to PAC I feel like it would be a thing of dreams, but I would need unlocked boot loader and so I am wary on taking updates as I am worried an exploit will come out for the old version after I upgrade, even though they aren't posting any security patches that doesn't mean they aren't changing it a little. Anyways I am just looking for other peoples opinion on whether I should go through work to unroot update then reroot and hope for an exploit.
This is the forum for the 2013 Droid Ultra / Maxx, not the Razr Maxx.
Our bootloader is locked
Teksu said:
This is the forum for the 2013 Droid Ultra / Maxx, not the Razr Maxx.
Our bootloader is locked
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He said he HAD a razr he doesn't anymore. I wouldn't be concerned about taking updates the boot loader is probably never getting unlocked. But if it did right now the moto x can downgrade to 4.2.2 from 4.4 so I guess we would be able to as well.
So I would just have to fxz back if an exploit comes out?
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So I would just have to fxz back if an exploit comes out?
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I'm not sure it is that simple I haven't really looked into it but I know it can be done on the moto x it is actually part of the root process at this point for the moto x.
Hey Guys! So I'm coming from a HTC Incredible, Incredible 2, Rezound, and One and now here I am with a new Droid Maxx and I'm trying to figure out just what I need to do in order to root his badboy and get all this crap that Verizon put on it off. I'm looking around and I'm seeing a few different threads about rooting but not to much about custom roms. What I'd be looking to accomplish is either 4.2 or 4.4, don't care to much which one but I want all this bloat gone as well as the ability to do a WiFi tether without giving Verizon even more money per month like I used to do on my HTC devices. Thanks in advance peeps!
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Hey Guys! So I'm coming from a HTC Incredible, Incredible 2, Rezound, and One and now here I am with a new Droid Maxx and I'm trying to figure out just what I need to do in order to root his badboy and get all this crap that Verizon put on it off. I'm looking around and I'm seeing a few different threads about rooting but not to much about custom roms. What I'd be looking to accomplish is either 4.2 or 4.4, don't care to much which one but I want all this bloat gone as well as the ability to do a WiFi tether without giving Verizon even more money per month like I used to do on my HTC devices. Thanks in advance peeps!
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rooting depends on whether you are still on JellyBean 4.2.2 or not. If so make sure your system version is 12.15.15 then head on over to the original development section and use RockMyMoto to get root. Check out the SlapMyMoto thread too and use MotoWpNoMo to turn write protection off permanently. If you're already on Kit Kat then you're out of luck for the time being as there is no direct root for KK and no way to downgrade to 4.2.2 to get root.
As for custom ROMs... there aren't any and you'll have to use TiBu to debloat your phone. Other than that welcome to the Maxx.
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rooting depends on whether you are still on JellyBean 4.2.2 or not. If so make sure your system version is 12.15.15 then head on over to the original development section and use RockMyMoto to get root. Check out the SlapMyMoto thread too and use MotoWpNoMo to turn write protection off permanently. If you're already on Kit Kat then you're out of luck for the time being as there is no direct root for KK and no way to downgrade to 4.2.2 to get root.
As for custom ROMs... there aren't any and you'll have to use TiBu to debloat your phone. Other than that welcome to the Maxx.
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Thanks so much for the information! I am still on 4.2.2 and I just checked my version and it is in fact 12.15.15. I'll check out those threads and get all this crap off my phone lol. Once I do this, if we get an OTA 4.4 will I still be able to upgrade?
Side question, why the lack of ROMS? Is the phone not mod friendly? I remember having an HTC it seemed like I had a TON of ROM choices.
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Thanks so much for the information! I am still on 4.2.2 and I just checked my version and it is in fact 12.15.15. I'll check out those threads and get all this crap off my phone lol. Once I do this, if we get an OTA 4.4 will I still be able to upgrade?
Side question, why the lack of ROMS? Is the phone not mod friendly? I remember having an HTC it seemed like I had a TON of ROM choices.
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You'll still be able to upgrade. It just takes jumping through a few hoops to keep root after the upgrade.
Moto kind of pushed the Moto X more than the Maxx/Ultra since it is multi-carrier so more people have the X and hence, more development. The lack of an unlocked bootloader has really hurt the VZW droids.
Awesome, the phone is incredible so I'll be happy with just ditching the bloat...none of the HTCs that I had come close to this as far as battery life is concerned...not even when I put an extended battery on them. Needless to say I'm super happy with the phone
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You'll still be able to upgrade. It just takes jumping through a few hoops to keep root after the upgrade.
Moto kind of pushed the Moto X more than the Maxx/Ultra since it is multi-carrier so more people have the X and hence, more development. The lack of an unlocked bootloader has really hurt the VZW droids.
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Sorry to hijack, but you are answering something right along the lines of what I've been searching for. I've done all OTA updates, and I'm showing Android 4.2.2. I'm then showing 12.15.15.obake_maxx_version for system. I'm guessing then that kitkat was only something a person could forcefully update towards. As in it's not yet available via an OTA?
Hey, so KK was only available for a short time before VZ pulled the update due to issues. You can still get it here by jumping through some hoops, and you can get it while retaining root by jumping through flaming hoops with 3 suicidal midgets strapped to your back. That being said the root process is a bit lengthy, compared to an HTC device, but was super simple with the amount of instruction given by our devs
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i sold the htc one just in time. the htc one plus has just been announced.
i am going to miss that phone for sure.
well lets move to the maxx. right off the bat i accidently updated the os. setup the nokia hands free charger and loaded up foxfi.
i have been reading up on these forums for awhile can someone please answer me
is 4.4 unrootable for sure. i am reading some mixed answers from this forum. if so which technique do i use?
is foxfi working on 4.4 or some alternative? if so what programs
i am unsure is the bootloader unlocked? and are roms, kernals, and bootloaders replaceable? again how>
No root for 4.4 just yet. Bootloader is locked on non-developer phones, and no big ROM action at all. When/if 4.4 pre-root fxz, or root exploit comes out, THEN will we see ROMs
fat-fingered and Maxx-ed out.
belovedson said:
i sold the htc one just in time. the htc one plus has just been announced.
i am going to miss that phone for sure.
well lets move to the maxx. right off the bat i accidently updated the os. setup the nokia hands free charger and loaded up foxfi.
i have been reading up on these forums for awhile can someone please answer me
is 4.4 unrootable for sure. i am reading some mixed answers from this forum. if so which technique do i use?
is foxfi working on 4.4 or some alternative? if so what programs
i am unsure is the bootloader unlocked? and are roms, kernals, and bootloaders replaceable? again how>
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Where did you see a release of the one +??
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Where did you see a release of the one +??
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No release but betas are out. The finished product is expected to come out in a month or two
I accidently updated to 4.3 and don't want to do the same for 4.4 how can I delete the delete or where is it
Hello, a friend of mine, bless his heart, took all the updates from AT&T for his HTC One X. Now it has the dreaded 5.18.502.1 firmware that can't be rolled back (or can it?). He recently got a new phone and I would like to buy his off of him, but if it's not able to be rooted, I will likely decline. So I was wondering, is ANYONE working on a root for this, or does anyone know of anybody who is? If it's in process, I might still buy it and suck it up for a few months until it becomes publicly available, so I would like to know. I would like to get off of my Huawei Sonic on Cyanogen 7.2, since no further updates are available for it and probably never will be (for the price, it's a great phone once rooted and flashed with a Benru89's ROM). Thanks!
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Hello, a friend of mine, bless his heart, took all the updates from AT&T for his HTC One X. Now it has the dreaded 5.18.502.1 firmware that can't be rolled back (or can it?). He recently got a new phone and I would like to buy his off of him, but if it's not able to be rooted, I will likely decline. So I was wondering, is ANYONE working on a root for this, or does anyone know of anybody who is? If it's in process, I might still buy it and suck it up for a few months until it becomes publicly available, so I would like to know. I would like to get off of my Huawei Sonic on Cyanogen 7.2, since no further updates are available for it and probably never will be (for the price, it's a great phone once rooted and flashed with a Benru89's ROM). Thanks!
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wrong forum this is for international One X not for AT&T
asilaydyingdl said:
Hello, a friend of mine, bless his heart, took all the updates from AT&T for his HTC One X. Now it has the dreaded 5.18.502.1 firmware that can't be rolled back (or can it?). He recently got a new phone and I would like to buy his off of him, but if it's not able to be rooted, I will likely decline. So I was wondering, is ANYONE working on a root for this, or does anyone know of anybody who is? If it's in process, I might still buy it and suck it up for a few months until it becomes publicly available, so I would like to know. I would like to get off of my Huawei Sonic on Cyanogen 7.2, since no further updates are available for it and probably never will be (for the price, it's a great phone once rooted and flashed with a Benru89's ROM). Thanks!
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There is no root method available for the latest 5.18 firmware. It cannot be rolled back without s-off, which would first require an unlocked bootloader and root, such would first need a root method. I doubt whether a hack for this latest software like firmware is being worked on or will be released. It might happen, but I certainly wouldn't hold your breathe.
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