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Water damaged phone?

So I dropped my phone into the toilet bowl =.=. I immediately picked it up of course, think it stayed there for about 50 seconds or so. Then I tried using tissue paper to dry the outside and proceeded on to take out the battery and clean the inside. After making sure there wasnt any water left, I put back the battery and tried to turn on the phone. I felt a vibration but nothing showed up on the screen. I then connected my phone to the pc. There was a yellow light here.
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The light is there whenever I charge my phone. Apart from that I cannot turn my phone on.
Any help?
Its xperia x8 btw.

Take the battery out again ASAP.
Just with a tissue you can't get all water out.
After dropping it in water it is generally recommded to submerge the device at least 2 days in a bowl of rice, maybe more days depending on the device.
The rice will draw out the moisture.
Other than that i don't know if your device is already f'ed. But i recommend doing the above and then try again. If you are lucky there is just some water left shorting some connection and stopping it from booting.

Just to let you know....that may help and your phone may turn back on and it may work for a while but mine got water damage (HTC EVO) and all I did was apply a XO Skin which has to be sprayed with water to apply. I did not spray the phone as I have applied these many times and it wasnt my first time so I had a lot of confidence in doing so but water did get under the screen. My phone worked but the screen did have a DARK STAIN under the screen and it looked like a water damaged photograph. I was so shocked that happened but it did. I did remove the battery and tried to put it in rice over night.
The next morning the stain had gotten lighter but still looked horrible to say the least but it was getting lighter and phone still worked flawlessly but I have a friend who is a phone tech wanna-be and he told me that once you get a phone wet like that the circuit board will eventually crash, especially Android phones. I called Sprint and they told me the same thing. I didn't want to get it replaced but to avoid having more issues down the road and more than likely it would have been at a time I needed my phone the most I caved and had it replaced.
I had an awesome phone, and even though the replaced phone is a new one I would still prefer to have my old one back.....
i wish you luck but since the phone was completely under water I would bet it won't come back on and if it does it won't work to where you can use it.

Dark3n said:
Take the battery out again ASAP.
Just with a tissue you can't get all water out.
After dropping it in water it is generally recommded to submerge the device at least 2 days in a bowl of rice, maybe more days depending on the device.
The rice will draw out the moisture.
Other than that i don't know if your device is already f'ed. But i recommend doing the above and then try again. If you are lucky there is just some water left shorting some connection and stopping it from booting.
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Would this work if my phone is really completely water damaged? The white sticker turned red.. Is there still a tiny bit of chance? D:

jb4kats said:
Just to let you know....that may help and your phone may turn back on and it may work for a while but mine got water damage (HTC EVO) and all I did was apply a XO Skin which has to be sprayed with water to apply. I did not spray the phone as I have applied these many times and it wasnt my first time so I had a lot of confidence in doing so but water did get under the screen. My phone worked but the screen did have a DARK STAIN under the screen and it looked like a water damaged photograph. I was so shocked that happened but it did. I did remove the battery and tried to put it in rice over night.
The next morning the stain had gotten lighter but still looked horrible to say the least but it was getting lighter and phone still worked flawlessly but I have a friend who is a phone tech wanna-be and he told me that once you get a phone wet like that the circuit board will eventually crash, especially Android phones. I called Sprint and they told me the same thing. I didn't want to get it replaced but to avoid having more issues down the road and more than likely it would have been at a time I needed my phone the most I caved and had it replaced.
I had an awesome phone, and even though the replaced phone is a new one I would still prefer to have my old one back.....
i wish you luck but since the phone was completely under water I would bet it won't come back on and if it does it won't work to where you can use it.
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Yeah.. I know the best solution is to get a new phone but im not an adult and my parents will scold the **** out of me. Thought i'd give an excuse saying i dropped the phone or something but there's the stupid red sticker proving it's damaged by water.. Sigh

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Would this work if my phone is really completely water damaged? The white sticker turned red.. Is there still a tiny bit of chance? D:
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Well if your phone is completely water damaged it won't work of course.
If it has just dropped in water and is not damaged, there is a good chance.
What sucks is that you did the worst thing one could do, putting the battery back in to early.
Water = OK, Electricity = OK, Water + Electricity = BIG NO NO!
Put it in rice for some time, the longer the better. Exchange the rice after 2 days if you keep it in there.
I fixed a Moto RAZR and an iPod that went through the washingmachine this way.
If you did not fry any circuits, the damaged components are usually the screen and the battery will not last very long.
Try the rice method, and report back in some days, there is a tiny chance.

Dark3n said:
Well if your phone is completely water damaged it won't work of course.
If it has just dropped in water and is not damaged, there is a good chance.
What sucks is that you did the worst thing one could do, putting the battery back in to early.
Water = OK, Electricity = OK, Water + Electricity = BIG NO NO!
Put it in rice for some time, the longer the better. Exchange the rice after 2 days if you keep it in there.
I fixed a Moto RAZR and an iPod that went through the washingmachine this way.
If you did not fry any circuits, the damaged components are usually the screen and the battery will not last very long.
Try the rice method, and report back in some days, there is a tiny chance.
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Ugh. After leaving the battery alone for 24 hours I tried booting up my phone and it did. Until it reached the homescreen for about a second, then it turned off. Now I've put it in rice though. I'll report back 2 days later. Thanks

Could be that some water was lefted and it shorted out something so it turned off again, it could also be that your battery is f'ed.
Anyways report back in 2 days .

Yeah just for future reference, never ever try to turn on a phone after it's gotten wet, or any device. That would likely short out anything that might be wet after it has turned off the first time.
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Yaaay my phone works now after putting it in rice
Thankyou dark3n!

instead of rice i use silica pellets for air dryers used in automotive painting, as i build custom bikes as a second hobby i always have tons of them around and they can be re-dried in the oven for about 20min at 350degrees, the ones i use are blue dry and turn pink when water logged,

I just let it sit front of a hair dryer for like a hour. Turned it on and it was good to go. This was some cheap MOTO dumb phone though.
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As mentioned before, desiccant silica gel pellets work wonders on removing moisture from anything.
I've also had luck putting the phone (not the battery) in the freezer overnight, and in the oven for a few hours at 50C.
I was pretty quick to turn the first phone I drowned on also, but it came back alright (i-mate Ultimate 8150). I've drowned a fair few (used to work on a Salmon farm) and have only had one I couldn't recover!

Dark3n said:
Take the battery out again ASAP.
Just with a tissue you can't get all water out.
After dropping it in water it is generally recommded to submerge the device at least 2 days in a bowl of rice, maybe more days depending on the device.
The rice will draw out the moisture.
Other than that i don't know if your device is already f'ed. But i recommend doing the above and then try again. If you are lucky there is just some water left shorting some connection and stopping it from booting.
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what kind of rice? is it hot rice?

My Touchstone charging case hack [UPDATE: Not Recommended]

IMPORTANT UPDATE: After a month of running this, I have concluded that the Palm components are not compatible with this phone. I was getting frequent reboots and eventually some instability of my phone. A couple of times my phone went temporarily dead and would not revive until I plugged it into the wall. I'm leaving this up in case others want to try it, but be aware you may be asking for trouble.
Lots of people have hacked the Palm Touchstone inductive charging setup for their phones, but I've seen nothing specific for the One XL. I used this thread by android94301 to get started. It's good for background and applies for the One X up until he starts putting it in the SIII back. Go and read the OP, as I won't repeat much of it.
I used the charging case approach because I did not want to open up my phone or make any permanent modifications to it. I wanted something simple, removable, and non-destructive. I used a TPU case because a) it's flexible enough to accomodate the charging coil and b) it's what I had. Plenty of other cases ought to work.
I would not advise attempting this project unless you're pretty handy with a soldering iron. You have to solder all the parts together or your won't get a good connection, and it's hard enough even then.
The Touchstone base will not work with a phone charging cord or the USB port in your computer because it needs more than 0.5A. It will, however, work with a tablet charger--at least it worked with my Nexus 7 charger--so if you've got a spare, you can save a few bucks and use that.
What you'll need:
-a charging back from a Pre or Pixi--I used the Pixi; be aware the Pre coil has the polarity reversed.
-a soldering iron
-some thin wire. I used two different colors to keep the polarity straight.
-some method of keeping the leads in contact with the pogo connectors.
-a multimeter to check your work. You'll want to repeatedly check whether you're getting 5V from the charging coil, because it needs to be aligned correctly with the base.
-a utility knife, wire cutters, and small needle nosed pliers
1. Start by carefully removing the coil assembly from the back. Peel the tape off, and keep the silver tape--you'll need it later. Using a sharp knife, very carefully pry the coil up from the adhesive. Pry out the four metal discs (be careful here--the Pixi back is quite flimsy, and I ended up punching the precision screwdriver I was using through the back and into my finger).
2. Once you've got everything free, place the case on the base and arrange the coil and discs so everything is in position. Check voltage with your multimeter. (Note: I ended up reversing the arrangement of the coil in the final version--it doesn't make a difference which way it goes.)
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3. On the copper tape attached to the coil, you'll see two square contacts. Solder a wire to each one. On the Pixi, the contact at the end is + and the other one is -. Note that in this photo, red is + and black is -.
4. This should take you 10 minutes, tops. Now comes the tough part. By far the hardest part of this hack was getting a good connection with the pogo contacts. I came up with a workable approach, but you may want to try something else. Whatever it is, it needs to keep pressure on the leads to keep them in contact. Simply taping the leads to the contacts does not work, however.
What you see here is a piece of circuit board cut from an old 2.5" SATA hard drive adapter. I used it to fabricate a little pogo pin board by removing all but two of the connecters with my soldering iron. I pushed the remaining two through the board a bit further after melting the solder, then soldered the leads to the pins. You may note that the wires are reversed from the previous photo--this is because I accidentally soldered them in the wrong arrangement on the board, and immediately after this realization, the black wire broke off the coil. So I just unsoldered the red one and reattached them so the board would get the correct polarity. Again, check your work throughout this process to be sure you're getting a charge at the final connection.
5. Tape or hot glue everything into place. I taped my pogo board directly onto my phone just to make it easier.
This isn't quite the final product. I'm going to move it to an opaque case, and I'm going to try shaving down the pins on the pogo board because it's a bit thicker than I'd like. Still, it all works.

hmm, your images are broken.
Or they require a dropbox account I guess.

qberty said:
hmm, your images are broken.
Or they require a dropbox account I guess.
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Hmm, that sucks.
That might explain why no one replied lol.

I've done the same thing ( buy a touchstone and a pre back)
I've gotten to the stage that the circuit board is removed from the phone back and I've soldered on 2 wires.
I'm having real difficulty trying to get a reliable connection to the pogo pins as they are so small and in a stupid place!
Would really like to see your photos to give me some inspiration but I can't. Any ideas?
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tinytom21 said:
I've done the same thing ( buy a touchstone and a pre back)
I've gotten to the stage that the circuit board is removed from the phone back and I've soldered on 2 wires.
I'm having real difficulty trying to get a reliable connection to the pogo pins as they are so small and in a stupid place!
Would really like to see your photos to give me some inspiration but I can't. Any ideas?
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I'm going to try to fix the links. I thought they were working because I can see them fine, but that's probably because I'm logged into Dropbox.
Edit: I think they're fixed. Someone let me know if they're still broken.

Their fixed, I can see them clearly. A question on inductive charging... It's wireless charging right but what is it charging from? In the last picture I don't see a pad or anything

WhatTheAndroid? said:
It's wireless charging right but what is it charging from? In the last picture I don't see a pad or anything
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The Touchstone base. It's actually quite small. Maybe 2" round and 1" high. Not much bigger than the coil in the first pic.

Someone who knows what there doing should make some of these and sell em.
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dustinhayes93 said:
Someone who knows what there doing should make some of these and sell em.
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It wouldn't be that hard. You can get pins that are designed for pogo contacts for next to nothing, and building a little contact board for them wouldn't be complicated. I just went with what I had because I didn't feel like waiting on another parts order.

Update:
After a week or so on this thing, I'm mostly happy but I have noticed one interesting thing. It charges fine up to around 90-05%, but it simply won't charge to full. Once it gets over 90% or so, it starts waking up every few minutes but never gets to 100%.
I think what may be going on is that the chip controlling the voltage from the induction coil is not completely optimized for this phone (which should hardly be surprising). So when it goes to trickle charge as it gets close to being full, the chip gets confused and stops the current, then kicks it back on when the phone keeps drawing on it. This causes the phone to wake up as the charges goes off and back on again. This cycle keeps repeating, thus preventing it from ever reaching full charge.
It's not a big deal for me as the difference between 100% and 95% is not that significant. Still, if you like everything to work perfectly, this may not be the mod for you.

iElvis said:
Update:
After a week or so on this thing, I'm mostly happy but I have noticed one interesting thing. It charges fine up to around 90-05%, but it simply won't charge to full. Once it gets over 90% or so, it starts waking up every few minutes but never gets to 100%.
I think what may be going on is that the chip controlling the voltage from the induction coil is not completely optimized for this phone (which should hardly be surprising). So when it goes to trickle charge as it gets close to being full, the chip gets confused and stops the current, then kicks it back on when the phone keeps drawing on it. This causes the phone to wake up as the charges goes off and back on again. This cycle keeps repeating, thus preventing it from ever reaching full charge.
It's not a big deal for me as the difference between 100% and 95% is not that significant. Still, if you like everything to work perfectly, this may not be the mod for you.
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Do you see the phone flipping between charging and not charging? I wonder if that's what I was seeing when I tried it on my phone. I was always nearly fully charged. I wasn't sure if it was my phone being picky or if there was something wrong with the charger. Same thing happens in my car charger too.

Valohtar said:
Do you see the phone flipping between charging and not charging? I wonder if that's what I was seeing when I tried it on my phone. I was always nearly fully charged. I wasn't sure if it was my phone being picky or if there was something wrong with the charger. Same thing happens in my car charger too.
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I haven't watched it closely enough. It just seems to wake up repeatedly while sitting next to me on my desk.

Okay no worries, I'll try it again when the battery is a bit lower and see if it responds.

So no dice on the low battery test. I guess my phone is just picky

I tried this afternoon. In fact, it rebooted when I left it on the battery screen to see what would happen. I've had this happen more than once, and I'm starting to suspect the mod is responsible. It only happens when the phone gets up to 95% or so.
I would be careful about that car charger, if it seems to be inducing issues. At least two people I know of have had their phones hard brick while on their car charger.

Ok i purchased all the necessary items, but my Coil is different from the one you have in the pics.
take a look,
so i am a bit confused.
anyone able to help

rinnycoop121 said:
Ok i purchased all the necessary items, but my Coil is different from the one you have in the pics.
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Is that a Pre back? Looks like the power contacts are those two metal squares on the right.

Hi i'm sorry but it looks like the images are broken again. Can you maybe email them to me/pm or something? Really want to try this out...

This seems fairly straightforward
However, did you consider putting the coil in the actual One XL body? I have no idea how thick the coil and/or controlboard is, so I have no idea if that would even fit remotely.
It would also solve the pogopin problem, as there are some pads you can solder to (where the pogopin board is) inside the casing.
I just hate cases

piotrus22 said:
Hi i'm sorry but it looks like the images are broken again. Can you maybe email them to me/pm or something? Really want to try this out...
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Hmm, I checked on another computer that's not connected to Dropbox and they're still there. Might be on your end. Anyone else not seeing them?

Minor Galaxy Tab 3 10.1 Teardown

I was having some random shutdowns.
Turned out sammy forgot to secure the clasps on the battery cable :what: . Basically any time the tab(GT-5210) was placed down with a small drop or taped in the back for any reasons it will random turn off... easy fix just opened and secure the clasps on the cable.
The fix works. The tab doesn't have a sensitive nature anymore.
I figure I share some inside pictures as I haven't really found many online.
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I had only one question how did you open it ?

Could you please post some instructions on how to open it ? that would be amazing

A Little Guide (in Italian :/ )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIYjMmj7ErA
Go and see how tear it down Sorry it is in Italian, even me I couldn't understand what's written (not Italian) so just images can show. Good Luck!

opening the samgung gt-p5210
i had to open my samsung gt-p5210 to fix the intermittent powering off problem. so i watched youtube to see how to open the device.. well what i did was use abt 6 plastic credit cards. first insert the edge of the plastic credit card into the right side of the device with the samsung logo facing up. i pushed the credit card in firmly and made sure all the side of the credit card was between the chrome and the glass. repeat the procedure at lower side and left side of the device..when all 3 sides are free and you can insert your finger in, gently insert the last credit card to release the power button edge and the opposite edge. the glass should now be able to be free from the plastic back cover..make sure the battery clip is secure. hopefully this should stop the problem.. am testing mine now and if i notice any re-occurrence of the intermittent powering off, then i would try other solutions..until then please enjoy this wonderful device...and my only wish is to have a CYANOGENMOD custom rom CM11 as i think the bloatware just slows it down too much...so am waiting for cm11...hope xdadevelopers will help us out here.. i think the problem is cos the gt-p5210 uses the intel processor...

Thanks a lot for this thread - I've experienced the same issue with random shut offs with this tablet, depending on how you move it around or set it down on tables etc.
Can anyone identify in the pictures what specific "clasp" is being mentioned as the culprit? I see where the short cable connects the battery to the board, but don't really see any issues in mine (it looks like the first picture the OP posted). The wires of the cable seem to be secured or taped down on the battery facing end, and the plug itself seems secured to the board interface ok.
While I had the back off I did mash/press on all the cable interfaces just to make sure everything was tight, and even tightened all visible screws just for fun.
I put it all back together and it seems ok for now, but was mainly curious which "clasp" was being referred to. Thanks again OP and others in this thread

neat
hey,
thanks for the teardown, i was curious.
i'm using the first image in your post for my wallpaper now
peace

Lump800 said:
I had only one question how did you open it ?
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Use the same flat tools u would use to open a cell phone the back just pops off its a clip on

resolved
All the clasps were intact. So I just put a folder paper in the mid of the battery and closed the cover. Its now working like a charm!
Thank you for the post! :good:

bibikola said:
i had to open my samsung gt-p5210 to fix the intermittent powering off problem. so i watched youtube to see how to open the device.. well what i did was use abt 6 plastic credit cards. first insert the edge of the plastic credit card into the right side of the device with the samsung logo facing up. i pushed the credit card in firmly and made sure all the side of the credit card was between the chrome and the glass. repeat the procedure at lower side and left side of the device..when all 3 sides are free and you can insert your finger in, gently insert the last credit card to release the power button edge and the opposite edge. the glass should now be able to be free from the plastic back cover..make sure the battery clip is secure. hopefully this should stop the problem.. am testing mine now and if i notice any re-occurrence of the intermittent powering off, then i would try other solutions..until then please enjoy this wonderful device...and my only wish is to have a CYANOGENMOD custom rom CM11 as i think the bloatware just slows it down too much...so am waiting for cm11...hope xdadevelopers will help us out here.. i think the problem is cos the gt-p5210 uses the intel processor...
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I asked CM about a couple of days ago and they said there will NOT be version for the p5210, which is a bit **** since they can do it for just about any phone/tab out there.

dwarfer66 said:
I asked CM about a ouple of days ago and they said there will NOT be version for the p5210, which is a bit **** since they can do it for just about any phone/tab out there.
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Yes...I have cm 11 on my captivate from 2010!

shomizu9 said:
Thanks a lot for this thread - I've experienced the same issue with random shut offs with this tablet, depending on how you move it around or set it down on tables etc.
Can anyone identify in the pictures what specific "clasp" is being mentioned as the culprit? I see where the short cable connects the battery to the board, but don't really see any issues in mine (it looks like the first picture the OP posted). The wires of the cable seem to be secured or taped down on the battery facing end, and the plug itself seems secured to the board interface ok.
While I had the back off I did mash/press on all the cable interfaces just to make sure everything was tight, and even tightened all visible screws just for fun.
I put it all back together and it seems ok for now, but was mainly curious which "clasp" was being referred to. Thanks again OP and others in this thread
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Yeah, i would also like to know which claps everyone is talking about...

me too. i want to know where is the clasps. my tab is shutting down and its very sensitive. it annoys me a lot

Ok, first of all - thankyou to all that contributed. It seemed to have fixed my GT-P52000.
I have secured the cable in the middle (with the white, red and blue cables) with scotch-tape. Looking at it, that must be the power-cable. Additionally I have put a thick piece of paper (carton) in the upper middle of the battery and secured this with scotch-tape as well. Now I can shake my tablet without it turning off. I hope it stays this way.
I opened it after watching the you-tube-vid from the 2nd post with special mobile/tablet-opening-tools. No problem - take your time!
Kind regards
Thumaroil

Dock not charging, tablet does (also through dock)

This has been going on for a while and hasnt bothered me too much, until now!
The thing is my dock hasn't been charging for quite a while, battery is stuck at 0%. The light is blinking orange when the tablet is docked in and/or the charger is connected. The tablet itself charges just fine, also through the dock.
I have already opened the dock, nothing strange. Battery appears fine (not swolen or anything) and nothing weird with the connection. I have been flipping the SW1001 swithc like crazy as well (even though by now I don;t remember the default anymore, open or closed... or what open or closed actually is. Even though on the backside of the PCB there is some 'open' print).
I have tried charging the dock (both seperately as with tablet docked in) with switch in both connections (for quite a few hours) but without luck. The led is blinking the same way, no matter how I put the switch.
Also tried flashing stock firmware again, no luck.
* Is there a way to test the dock battery? (Apart from switching the dock and tablet battery for example).
* Does anyone know what the default posittion of the SW1001 swithc is? (This is the switch on the right side of the left pcb inside the keyboard dock).
* Any other tricks getting the dock battery to charge again?
I have been thinking of ordering a new battery (or possibly entire dock, might be able to get one second handed) but would really like to have tried everything else first

To test the dock battery (or any battery), use a multimeter, find out what the voltage should be (I believe but don't hold me to it) that the dock and internal battery should be ~15v. Check on the internet (google, youtube, etc) for correct usage of a multimeter. If the battery is fine, you already have the multimeter in front of you, check the connections to the tablet from the battery.
If you don't know where to get a multimeter, (you probably shouldn't have opened the dock) you can get one at RadioShack, Home Depot, Lowes, Menards, Frys, decent gas stations, the internet. You get the idea: they're everywhere.

da3dsoul said:
To test the dock battery (or any battery), use a multimeter, find out what the voltage should be (I believe but don't hold me to it) that the dock and internal battery should be ~15v. Check on the internet (google, youtube, etc) for correct usage of a multimeter. If the battery is fine, you already have the multimeter in front of you, check the connections to the tablet from the battery.
If you don't know where to get a multimeter, (you probably shouldn't have opened the dock) you can get one at RadioShack, Home Depot, Lowes, Menards, Frys, decent gas stations, the internet. You get the idea: they're everywhere.
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Cheers, I do have a multimeter so will indeed give that a try.
Not sure how to actually measure this battery:
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but I'll see if I can find anything.
Also, perhaps I'll try swapping the battery from the tablet and dock as well anyway. Hard to tell if the battery is at fault or some other part (charging the battery).

As a last resort, because these batteries often won't charge up again if they drop to 0% would be to (safely) warm it up, might give it that 1% needed to kick start it
Used to put my pencil batteries on the hot radiator for an hour when they had run out, and normally got a little longer out of them until they cooled down
Not sure if that works with Li-Ion but wouldn't hurt
Ive had the 0% dead battery problem with the dock, but swapping between SW1001 switch positions every half hour eventually got it charging again

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As a last resort, because these batteries often won't charge up again if they drop to 0% would be to (safely) warm it up, might give it that 1% needed to kick start it
Used to put my pencil batteries on the hot radiator for an hour when they had run out, and normally got a little longer out of them until they cooled down
Not sure if that works with Li-Ion but wouldn't hurt
Ive had the 0% dead battery problem with the dock, but swapping between SW1001 switch positions every half hour eventually got it charging again
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Thanks for the tip, nice alternative for the 'putting it in the fridge' one, will certainly give that a try too. I actually closed the dock again, but guess I'll be popping it open again this evening hehe.
Do you happen to remember/recall what the proper position of the SW1001 switch was?

Hmmm...thanks Asus, that makes everything easier....Usually red and black are +/-, there appears to be text on the battery cables. Check to see if any have + out, - out, + discharge, etc, etc. You want to see if it will output any current, because if it does, it is not really 0%, just really low. If you find which ones are charging inputs, give it a (small) jolt of like 0.25v - 0.5v higher than what it asks for a couple minutes and then switch back to normal.

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Thanks for the tip, nice alternative for the 'putting it in the fridge' one, will certainly give that a try too. I actually closed the dock again, but guess I'll be popping it open again this evening hehe.
Do you happen to remember/recall what the proper position of the SW1001 switch was?
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I can do one better - just remembered Id seen this a while back
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Disassemble-the-ASUS-Transformer-TF101-Keyb/?ALLSTEPS

Great, cheers guys!
Guess I'll have some playing to do. (Hell, it's prolly easier to just shell 30 bucks for a new battery but it's a matter of principle now )

lol yea, good luck - it's a pain because the actual battery is likely still fine, they just refuse to charge if completely drained, but, Ive managed it before and so have others, so you have some hope

Haha, thanks Ah well, I do enjoy tinkering around with this stuff (but I'm also clumsy at times, accidently pulling out cables and/or ribbons ).
Multimeter didn't work btw, couldn't manage to get a reading (hard to make contact with any of the wires of the battery, as well as no clue which wires do what... couldn't really read the text). Did manage to connect the tablet battery with the dock connector, immediately got a green light instead of constantly blinking orange/amber one. Attaching the dock battery to the tablet only resulted in a boot if I connected the charger... Resulted in a 0% battery and message "please connect the charger" so yeah, seems the battery is indeed the issue.
Either indeed depleted to 0% or perhaps the wiring is broken. Anyway, the battery is in the freezer now and am going to take it out tomorrow. If that doesn't work, I'll put it on the radiator in order to heat it up a bit (or perhaps a blowdryer on a low setting, will see). If that also doesn't work I guess I'll have to order a new battery afterall (might as well to round things up).
Of course now I also noticed I only get sound from one speaker Hell, and to consider we don;t even use this tablet anymore haha.

Never heard of putting batteries in the freezer, putting the charger in the freezer works only because it resets the thermal cut out switch, but not heard it about the actual batteries
For storing them when not in use, Ive heard you charge them to 50% and seal them in an airtight zip bag and store in the fridge for maximum lifespan
Make sure you let it thaw out back to room temp before putting it on the radiator though or you'll end up with condensation inside of it
Don't know about the wire colours either unfortunately
Fun project anyway, keeps you out of mischief

Ah well, freezing and heating it up didn't seem to work either... So I just ordered a new battery anyway (and speakers, lol... might as well finish it up properly then). Will take a bit before they're in but at least then I can let this rest
Tnx for the assistance and tips though, was a fun project nonetheless.

Just to finish this up, got the new battery and speakers yesterday... Built them into the TF101 and all is working fine now again (Of course there is still a volume difference in left/right speakers, haven't been able to figure out the proper settings in the config file from that other thread so I guess I'll just leave it for now).
So all is ok, except the charger of course, of which I think I already had 3 or 4 ones breaking so I gave up on those and just use the DIY charger which works just fine.

Good to hear it's almost back to 100% - are you running stock firmware?
I remember the speaker volume differences with stock - the latest KatKiss KitKat ROM by Timduru has even speaker volumes and the KatApp volume booster he makes has more options to boost the volumes and makes a big difference
#23c is the latest KK ROM - make sure you have TWRP recovery installed before flashing it though

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Good to hear it's almost back to 100% - are you running stock firmware?
I remember the speaker volume differences with stock - the latest KatKiss KitKat ROM by Timduru has even speaker volumes and the KatApp volume booster he makes has more options to boost the volumes and makes a big difference
#23c is the latest KK ROM - make sure you have TWRP recovery installed before flashing it though
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Cheers!
I am running kitkat btw, but even then there's a difference in volume... I think it's #23 but will have to doublecheck that, as well as the volume apps you mentioned. On the other hand, it's not that big of an issue (would be nice to really fix everything though hehe).

You could try the fix that used to work for stock - see if it has the same issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1118010
Also I noticed some of the holes in the bezel that let the audio come out from the speakers are either blocked or tiny, I used a sewing needle to bore out the holes which improved audio levels too
Just watch you don't push right through the speaker, might be an idea to remove the bezel to do it

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You could try the fix that used to work for stock - see if it has the same issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1118010
Also I noticed some of the holes in the bezel that let the audio come out from the speakers are either blocked or tiny, I used a sewing needle to bore out the holes which improved audio levels too
Just watch you don't push right through the speaker, might be an idea to remove the bezel to do it
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Have tried several values from that thread but without any real results (also pretty tedious to test the settings). Might look into drilling/cleaning the speaker holes though. Saw another thread where it was recommended to turn around the speakers and drill some holes in the grill as well, but that;s a bit too much for now.
Cheers for the tips and recommendations though

Yea I was thinking about turning the speakers around too, not sure why they positioned them pointing away from the holes to begin with, or why they put the holes in the side instead of the front - but that's ASUS for you
Hopefully you'll find a solution eventually

Well, this how I solved the dock battery issue, it worked for me so maybe will work for somebody else.
I unwrapped the black plastic foil of the battery pack and checked the tensions, one of the two units was under 1.0 volt so I charged for some seconds enforcing from a charger.
I reassemble all and dock now is at 1% and charging ok.
Please be careful and be aware that a wrong or too much time can lead to explosion.

Is unstability caused by hardware or software issue?

Hello, as mentioned before, sometimes I cannot wake my device. The entire screen is blank. I have to keep pressing the power button many times to turn on the device. Sometimes I have to wait for 30 minutes or more and try again before the device turns on. Few months ago, I took it to Samsung. They said that it was due to a faulty screen. They replaced a new one for me but after about 2-3 weeks, same thing happen.
Recently, for a few days, the device also rebooted by itself like crazy. This happened especially when I used the stock Camera app to take photos. Sometimes it happened when I pressed the Camera app icon. In most cases, this happened when I pressed the button to shoot photo.
Few days ago, the screen brinked a few times and rebooted by itself. Even there were about 30% battery power, at one point it reported 0%. When I plugged the device to the power supply, the problem disappeared and the device charged.
Are these things due to software issue or hardware issue? As you know, the apps update by themselves often.
Info on my device:
SM-P905
Android 4.4.2
Base version: P905XXUANA7
Kernel version: 3.4.0-2454801
[email protected]#1
Fri Aug 8 11:53:36 KST 2014
Build number: KOT49H.P905ZSUANH1
SE Android Status: Enforcing SEPF_SM-P905_4.4.2_0040 Fri Jan 30 17:13:07 2015

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Few days ago, the screen brinked a few times and rebooted by itself. Even there were about 30% battery power, at one point it reported 0%. When I plugged the device to the power supply, the problem disappeared and the device charged.
Are these things due to software issue or hardware issue? As you know, the apps update by themselves often.
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Battery's capacity fluctuation, flickering screen, auto reboot, auto shut down, are common caused by cracked battery connector.
You can inspect the battery connector under magnified glass, push it slightly right or left to see if it's moving. A battery connector with cracked solders will move easily by this test.
A quick rework will take under 5 minutes to melt and add more solders to the 6 pins of battery connector. A repair shop or anyone knows how to solder can help you.
This is what this connector looks like:
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A quick test: slap hard on the back cover with your hand, your tablet will shut down immediately if the battery connector is badly cracked.
Be aware that some depot techs are technical incompetent to troubleshoot or repair a particular issue like this one.

Thanks. I performed the test you described. The tablet did not shut down immediately. I slapped it hard a few times. No shutting down. I suspect it is related to software because the issues seem to have happened in blocks of time. i.e. 1-2 days of problems. No problem. 1-2 days of problems, etc.

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Thanks. I performed the test you described. The tablet did not shut down immediately. I slapped it hard a few times. No shutting down. I suspect it is related to software because the issues seem to have happened in blocks of time. i.e. 1-2 days of problems. No problem. 1-2 days of problems, etc.
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The quick test I mentioned only work with badly loose battery connector, the one that can lift off easily or move if pushed. Other cases, cracked solders cause intermittent power or quick discharge or running hot battery. Your intermittent problems could be some pins have crack but not all of them.
Believe me or not, this is not software but hardware problem common seen in Galaxy Note and others, I try to point to the right direction but it's up to you to figure out.

I had no problem with my device for a few weeks. Recently, very often the device restarted when I pressed the built-in camera app. Don't you think this is a software problem?

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I had no problem with my device for a few weeks. Recently, very often the device restarted when I pressed the built-in camera app. Don't you think this is a software problem?
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The easiest way to verify, back up then reset your tablet. If problem starts again with fresh system, this is not software but hardware problem.
However, flickering screen and auto reboot is not software. These problems often cause by cracked battery connector.
You need to read the " Flickering " thread to see what is the source of your problem. In this forum, it has more than 30,000 views and another forum ( Android Central ), it has more than 100,000 views. These numbers will tell, you are not the only one to have it.

I found that when the battery level is low, the device flickering and reboot by itself like crazy.

petercohen said:
I found that when the battery level is low, the device flickering and reboot by itself like crazy.
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I think the only way to convince you this is not software problem: take the back cover off when battery is low, pressing directly on the battery connector, the flickering screen will stop immediately. Another user followed my advice, applied pressure on the battery connector helped his tablet to boot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63123548&postcount=7

Hello, I cannot take the cover off. What is the best way to do it without damaging the device? From some online videos, it looks like there are some kind of plastic tool?

petercohen said:
Hello, I cannot take the cover off. What is the best way to do it without damaging the device? From some online videos, it looks like there are some kind of plastic tool?
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Pry and lift, you can take the back out easily
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeSG0hHpAG8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdctusUVv_E

Beut said:
Pry and lift, you can take the back out easily
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeSG0hHpAG8
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Yes I saw this video. Where can I get the plastic tool without ordering the battery kit?

petercohen said:
Yes I saw this video. Where can I get the plastic tool without ordering the battery kit?
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There are too many of them on Ebay or Amazon, you should have at least one Metal Spudger because other plastic tools are prone to break after few uses, but plastic tools cause less damages to the case with no experienced users.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/5Pcs-Plasti...343597?hash=item4aeb4e17ed:g:d0UAAOSwNSxVchoR
http://www.amazon.com/Mobile-Repair...47773485&sr=8-112&keywords=tablet+prying+tool
http://www.ebay.com/itm/8-Pcs-Repai...962745?hash=item2a45942379:g:uRIAAOSwj0NUejUP