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Official Dock for the G2

Not sure if anyone here has seen this:
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/T-Mobile-G2/Finally-an-official-Dock-for-the-G2/td-p/711507
Looks nice.
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Looks good but I like the one I bought that charges the extra battery at the same time...this one doesn't seem to do that except charge the phone

collins521 said:
Looks good but I like the one I bought that charges the extra battery at the same time...this one doesn't seem to do that except charge the phone
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I was planning on getting one of those, with an extra battery. But damn this one looks nice. I wonder if my phone (with chromatics skin) will fit.

Yeah looks like a tight fit....
I have an otterbox on mine and I knew going in that would probably eliminate a dock from my future, but I'd be curious if I could still lay it in there.
I doubt it, but would appreciate a review!
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

cdrk said:
I was planning on getting one of those, with an extra battery. But damn this one looks nice. I wonder if my phone (with chromatics skin) will fit.
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I have a stealth guard and it fits just fine in my dock, the skin/screen protector type things will fit in the docks I'm sure....cases won't I'm sure

Finally!! Now we don't have to hack one up ourselves... haha. And at $20 I'm willing to buy it.

Sweet! Now about that official car dock...

Looks nice! Bummer though it won't support if the phone has a case on it. And that's a nice price as well

heybobitsme said:
Sweet! Now about that official car dock...
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That's what I am [im]patiently waiting for...

I popped into my local T-Mobile store, no luck. The helpful salesperson told me that they only stock these in the "playground stores." Anyone know how to find a "playground store"?
I have a Question for those who have this dock: Does the phone know it is in this dock? Does it automatically go into dock/clock mode? I have the generic dock with the battery charger on the back, but the phone just thinks it is on an AC charge.

Queue515 said:
I popped into my local T-Mobile store, no luck. The helpful salesperson told me that they only stock these in the "playground stores." Anyone know how to find a "playground store"?
I have a Question for those who have this dock: Does the phone know it is in this dock? Does it automatically go into dock/clock mode? I have the generic dock with the battery charger on the back, but the phone just thinks it is on an AC charge.
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what the hell is a playground store? shouldnt any tmobile store that carries phones and accesories carry this? it would only make sense.

what the hell is a playground store?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgHS1p-qH14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOjceXCPnGk&feature=related
Theoretically, you should be able to get anything at any store. But this is a new item, not even listed on the TMO website. I'm guessing the playground stores get the cool stuff first.

collins521 said:
Looks good but I like the one I bought that charges the extra battery at the same time...this one doesn't seem to do that except charge the phone
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I would be wary of these if I were you guys.
I bought one of these just the other day for my Desire Z. It says that if you want to charge both the extra battery, and the phone at the same time, that you have to use both cables, but the phone registers a charge taking place when you use just the cable that is designated for charging the extra battery behind the phone.
Also, when my Desire Z is docked, using one or both of the cables, my touch screen stops responding. Every once in a while if I sit there tapping it over and over and over it will register something, but it is extremely rare. Then, after taking the phone of the dock (and it had only been on it for a few minutes) it started wigging out. Things getting clicked that I didn't touch, changing from one screen to another without me touching the phone, scrolling by itself intermittently, etc. I ended up having to do a restart, then switch off, take battery out for a few minutes etc to get it to start working properly again.
I won't be touching these dodgy 3rd party docks again.
Hopefully they will come out with an official HTC Desire Z dock outside of the U.S.

Hey mas_
I have one of those "dodgy 3rd party docks". I only have used it with the permanent USB cable, plugged into my HTC AC adapter. It seems to work fine this way.
As an experiment, (if you're willing to put your phone back into the dock) try touching the metal ring with your thumb, then touching the touch screen. There's a thread somewhere about this, but the touchscreen is not as responsive when you're not holding the phone. (e.g. it is in a dock)

Mas_ said:
I would be wary of these if I were you guys.
I bought one of these just the other day for my Desire Z. It says that if you want to charge both the extra battery, and the phone at the same time, that you have to use both cables, but the phone registers a charge taking place when you use just the cable that is designated for charging the extra battery behind the phone.
Also, when my Desire Z is docked, using one or both of the cables, my touch screen stops responding. Every once in a while if I sit there tapping it over and over and over it will register something, but it is extremely rare. Then, after taking the phone of the dock (and it had only been on it for a few minutes) it started wigging out. Things getting clicked that I didn't touch, changing from one screen to another without me touching the phone, scrolling by itself intermittently, etc. I ended up having to do a restart, then switch off, take battery out for a few minutes etc to get it to start working properly again.
I won't be touching these dodgy 3rd party docks again.
Hopefully they will come out with an official HTC Desire Z dock outside of the U.S.
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My generic dock works without problems with the DZ. Only the dock clock thingy doesn't trigger on.

Queue515 said:
Hey mas_
I have one of those "dodgy 3rd party docks". I only have used it with the permanent USB cable, plugged into my HTC AC adapter. It seems to work fine this way.
As an experiment, (if you're willing to put your phone back into the dock) try touching the metal ring with your thumb, then touching the touch screen. There's a thread somewhere about this, but the touchscreen is not as responsive when you're not holding the phone. (e.g. it is in a dock)
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Hey Queue515, thanks for the response.
I'm not so worried about the phone not registering touch so well when docked, as I am worried about the behaviour of the phone after using the dock. It was actually quite disturbing, holding the phone not touching the screen at all and seeing it scroll by itself, select items, change screens, etc. There was even some flickering distortion of images (just a single item on the screen, not the entire screen).
I would hate to have something permanent happen to the phone.
I would also like to point out that my phone normally doesn't need to be held for the touch screen to work flawlessly. I can just set it down, and do presses and swipes just fine without holding it or touching the metal ring. Both when it is flat, and when I prop it up against something.

I haven't had any issues with the dock and have been using it daily for the past two months, the whole touch screen not responding doesn't have anything to do with the dock. It's the way the phone is designed cause if you have the phone laying down on the table and if you try and touch the screen without touching anything else on the phone it won't work 99% of the time. There was a big long thread about it and once you put your finger or something on the phone and then touch the screen it works 100% of the time. I've experienced this with the dock and it's no biggie, I'm willing to bet the official dock from TMo will act this way as well

Mas_ said:
I would be wary of these if I were you guys.
I bought one of these just the other day for my Desire Z. It says that if you want to charge both the extra battery, and the phone at the same time, that you have to use both cables, but the phone registers a charge taking place when you use just the cable that is designated for charging the extra battery behind the phone.
Also, when my Desire Z is docked, using one or both of the cables, my touch screen stops responding. Every once in a while if I sit there tapping it over and over and over it will register something, but it is extremely rare. Then, after taking the phone of the dock (and it had only been on it for a few minutes) it started wigging out. Things getting clicked that I didn't touch, changing from one screen to another without me touching the phone, scrolling by itself intermittently, etc. I ended up having to do a restart, then switch off, take battery out for a few minutes etc to get it to start working properly again.
I won't be touching these dodgy 3rd party docks again.
Hopefully they will come out with an official HTC Desire Z dock outside of the U.S.
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You're referring to the 3rs party correct, not this official one?
sent from my V I S I O N.

collins521 said:
I haven't had any issues with the dock and have been using it daily for the past two months, the whole touch screen not responding doesn't have anything to do with the dock. It's the way the phone is designed cause if you have the phone laying down on the table and if you try and touch the screen without touching anything else on the phone it won't work 99% of the time. There was a big long thread about it and once you put your finger or something on the phone and then touch the screen it works 100% of the time. I've experienced this with the dock and it's no biggie, I'm willing to bet the official dock from TMo will act this way as well
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I actually addressed this in my post, down at the bottom.
I don't have to touch my phone anywhere or hold it anywhere else to get the touch screen to work. I am doing it right now. It is laying down on the desk, and I am using ONE finger to navagate around and select items. I do not have to touch the casing or anything else. I also do this in the morning when I am using it as an alarm clock. I keep the phone propped up, plugged in and charging. When it goes off, I reach over and use ONE finger to tap the snooze button. Works perfectly every single time, no phone holding needed.
And yes PatrickHuey, I was referring to the 3rd party one, not the official one.

Mas_ said:
I actually addressed this in my post, down at the bottom.
I don't have to touch my phone anywhere or hold it anywhere else to get the touch screen to work. I am doing it right now. It is laying down on the desk, and I am using ONE finger to navagate around and select items. I do not have to touch the casing or anything else. I also do this in the morning when I am using it as an alarm clock. I keep the phone propped up, plugged in and charging. When it goes off, I reach over and use ONE finger to tap the snooze button. Works perfectly every single time, no phone holding needed.
And yes PatrickHuey, I was referring to the 3rd party one, not the official one.
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Huh odd..mine doesn't hardly let me use it when it's on the table laying flat so I think nothing of it lol

Motorola Triumph Screen Repair Take Apart Guide

Repairs Universe team compiled this take apart repair guide for your Motorola Triumph. This will help you through all the steps required to disassemble and replace the touch screen digitizer as well as the LCD display screen.
This guide will help you to install the following Motorola Triumph part(s):
Motorola Triumph Touch Screen Digitizer Replacement
Motorola Triumph LCD Screen Replacement
Tools Required:
Safe Open Pry Tool
T5 Torx Screwdriver
Adhesive Strips (For touch screen repairs)
Hot Air Gun / Hair Dryer
Motorola Triumph take apart guide:
First, remove the back battery cover, the battery and sim card.
Use Torx T5 Screwdriver to remove the 2 screws.
Next, using safe pry tool gently pry along all the edges to remove the back housing cover of the phone. The motherboard is now exposed; remove the remaining 5 screws using T5 Torx Screwdriver.
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Once the screws are removed, separate the top camera bezel.
Next, using safe pry tool release the 2 jaw connector and remove the flex cables.
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You can now gently lift the motherboard but you need to be careful as it is still one flex cable attached to the back side of the motherboard. Pop up the remaining flex cable. The motherboard is now totally separated.
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Next, release the heat adhesive and tape holding the touchscreen flex cable to front housing.
You can now heat the front assembly using a hair dryer or heat gun for about 30-45 seconds.
Using safe pry tool, gently slide along the outside edges of the touchscreen releasing the adhesive that is holding the screen. Be careful not to pry too far to prevent damaging the LCD screen.
To remove the LCD screen from the front housing bezel, use safe pry tool and run along the edges to release the clips. The front housing is now totally remove.
Next, heat the lower back portion of the LCD screen flex cable. Then gently pry off the LCD screen but be careful as it is still attach from the flex cable to the back housing. Then gently put the LCD down, and begin releasing the LCD flex cable from the housing.
You can now replace the damage part of your phone.
Reverse the instructions above to reassemble your phone.

Thanks, I'll bookmark incase I have to repair my Triumph
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is there a way to replace jaw connector??

If the jaw connector is not broken you should be able to put back into place. If it is broken then you will not be able to fix this.

Bookmarking this. My gf dropped her phone and cracked the screen. This will save me a few bucks down the road. Thanks!

my technician broke the jaw connector of display and now he is telling me that only option is to buy a new motherboard

mysteriousboy87 said:
my technician broke the jaw connector of display and now he is telling me that only option is to buy a new motherboard
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Yes sadly you will not have any other option. Sometimes you can rig something to hold the cable in place, but that is normally just a temp fix.

Thanks for the instructions.
I did not have to change the display but bent my USB connector in shape again. Connection was loose to a point where connection
was very intermittent. Luckily the soldered connections were still in good shape!
I buried my plans to re-flow them as my soldering needle (@ 900degF) could not put a dent in that gum/glue they put on the soldering points!

Shipping
Hey RU!
Do you guys ship to India?

jedgell233 said:
Bookmarking this. My gf dropped her phone and cracked the screen. This will save me a few bucks down the road. Thanks!
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Glad to hear we could help!

After replacing a broken screen(the phone was working fine after the screen was broken), I can't get the phone to charge. The phone doesn't work with a cm7 ROM either, after booting it shows android system at the top with a black screen and the notification bar then shuts off. Froyo ROMs work fine but won't charge and the usb connection to computer still works. In about it will show not charging wen it's not plugged in and discharging when it is plugged into ac or usb. With the phone off when I plug it in it shows the red led at the top like its charging for say 5 seconds then it shows a battery with a temp gauge in the middle of it and everything goes black again. I've tried opening it back up and reseating the cables but same thing, also tried two batteries both of which were working fine before replacing the screen.
Any ideas?
-Matt

MattBodin said:
After replacing a broken screen(the phone was working fine after the screen was broken), I can't get the phone to charge. The phone doesn't work with a cm7 ROM either, after booting it shows android system at the top with a black screen and the notification bar then shuts off. Froyo ROMs work fine but won't charge and the usb connection to computer still works. In about it will show not charging wen it's not plugged in and discharging when it is plugged into ac or usb. With the phone off when I plug it in it shows the red led at the top like its charging for say 5 seconds then it shows a battery with a temp gauge in the middle of it and everything goes black again. I've tried opening it back up and reseating the cables but same thing, also tried two batteries both of which were working fine before replacing the screen.
Any ideas?
-Matt
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Have you checked if the charging port is damaged? If it is not the charger or battery, that is another possibility.

Repair and MEID or MSN
I am going to repair my Motorola Triumph and may scrap parts from another broken phone. I don't want to accidentally replace anything that will effect my MEID or MSN number though. Is this located on the motherboard with the sd card input or the other half that is attached to the LCD screen and touch screen. The main reason I ask is that I am still under the original contract at Virgin Mobile and getting a cheap monthly rate and I don't want them to say I upgraded phones and bump my fee up.
Thanks!

teedoe said:
I am going to repair my Motorola Triumph and may scrap parts from another broken phone. I don't want to accidentally replace anything that will effect my MEID or MSN number though. Is this located on the motherboard with the sd card input or the other half that is attached to the LCD screen and touch screen. The main reason I ask is that I am still under the original contract at Virgin Mobile and getting a cheap monthly rate and I don't want them to say I upgraded phones and bump my fee up.
Thanks!
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The bottom half of your motherboard should contain your MEID and your phone's identity. Is there anything else wrong with it? I would install your entire original motherboard to avoid any complications.

repairsuniverse said:
The bottom half of your motherboard should contain your MEID and your phone's identity. Is there anything else wrong with it? I would install your entire original motherboard to avoid any complications.
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I ended up piecing together the best parts from a couple phones that I got real cheap. I must have tweaked the LCD in the process cause the screen has a green tint to it. May just need some calibration that I don't know how to do but the "Filter Your Screen" app takes the green out well enough. I do loose the maximum brightness though. Oh well, keeps my cheap phone working for now and I can make do until I can get a better one.
Thanks for your input.

teedoe said:
I ended up piecing together the best parts from a couple phones that I got real cheap. I must have tweaked the LCD in the process cause the screen has a green tint to it. May just need some calibration that I don't know how to do but the "Filter Your Screen" app takes the green out well enough. I do loose the maximum brightness though. Oh well, keeps my cheap phone working for now and I can make do until I can get a better one.
Thanks for your input.
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I'm glad to hear at least it is functioning for you! Do you have another LCD to test your motherboard with? Did use heat to take off the digtizer? Too much heat might cause discoloration.

repairsuniverse said:
I'm glad to hear at least it is functioning for you! Do you have another LCD to test your motherboard with? Did use heat to take off the digtizer? Too much heat might cause discoloration.
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I did not have to heat the digitizer, I just took it with the connected body/frame from a parts phone and then the LCD screen and Motherboard from my phone, which I must have bent it or something. Either that or Cygenomod 7 on the new screen is causing a color issue. Who knows I could always get another cheap one off flea bay and just put my motherboard in it.

teedoe said:
I did not have to heat the digitizer, I just took it with the connected body/frame from a parts phone and then the LCD screen and Motherboard from my phone, which I must have bent it or something. Either that or Cygenomod 7 on the new screen is causing a color issue. Who knows I could always get another cheap one off flea bay and just put my motherboard in it.
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Yeah, you must have tweaked the LCD somehow. I'll look more into it and see If I can figure out the root cause.

repairsuniverse said:
Yeah, you must have tweaked the LCD somehow. I'll look more into it and see If I can figure out the root cause.
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thanks!

[Q] Dropped phone, now charges only on a whim and no OTG

Well, this isn't the best place to ask, but I'm not sure where else to do so. Somehow I managed to drop my phone (onto a carpeted floor from not quite a full standing height, not concrete or anything) and it landed right on the bottom I think. I can't see any signs of damage anywhere at all -- I even pulled out the screws and looked at the PCB itself and I just can't see anything obvious at all. Unfortunately, something obviously is wrong all the same. It simply will not charge at all most of the time, though seemingly randomly on a whim when I connect it sometimes it will. I'm afraid even to touch it once it finally does as just moving the cable around seems to be enough to make it stop sometimes (whereas at some other times I can move it around a lot and everything and it still stays connected.) Last night it decided not to even charge even though the LED indicator and the icon showed that it was connected. What's more, I can no longer use the USB OTG capability to plug in USB drives, other devices, and etc (which I used for diagnostics, repairs, and etc of other things on the go.) I have multiple batteries and external chargers, so this isn't completely fatal but it means:
A. I can't keep it from running the batteries down in the first place (which means larger wear and tear on the batteries long-term since they are discharged further before charging.)
B. Since it's like this it means generally speaking it's not as ready for a fully day of use since it's starting the day with less than 100% charge before I even leave for work every time now.
C. I really did use the USB OTG feature and have already been missing it. It's not as fatal as devices like my Nexus 7 (since that lacks a MicroSDHC card reader to supplement its internal storage whereas this has one) but very annoying at least.
D. I really really miss being able to use a phone dock! I was docking it in my car to keep it at least semi-charged and to output a line output to my car stereo system. It's kind of a pain having to change the volume back and forth between headphones and line output (since a line output really needs the full volume) and obviously it uses more power while playing than just sitting quietly in a pocket anyway. I also liked the way in the dock it wouldn't completely shut off the screen, just go into a really low power mode where it had a faded clock (might be a CM10.1 feature, but nice wherever it came from) and I could just touch it to get back to the player controls.
At first I thought it was just loose, so I tried putting a very thin piece of plastic in the top part of the connector so the connection is extremely tight which fooled me at first by pretending to work really well for a while, but then after a while it just did the same stuff all over again (so it was just doing that thing where it works fine for a little while even when I move the cord around.) I just can't see what could possibly be the problem though because if there is any damage anywhere I'm just not seeing it. I really don't see how the connector could have been damaged anyway since it more or less landed straight on the middle of the bottom (and that ring that goes around the side should have absorbed the shock) but with no cracks on the PCB or anything that I can at all see I can't imagine what else it might be -- plus a few times when it decided to charge it was just sitting flat not being touched and suddenly started working randomly. It really is like it just works on a whim here...
So I'm wondering: just how screwed am I here? I don't have any sort of drop insurance -- I've never dropped a phone in a way that damaged it before -- and I don't think there's any way I could afford the ridiculous amounts they'd surely want for a repair (not to mention that for a while I'd have no phone at all if I did that...) I thought about changing out the connector myself (I see one on Amazon for $8 which is ridiculous, but obviously it has to be the exact same connector) but I'm not terribly confident about desoldering and resoldering something with such small connectors as it is and that one is hard to get to anyway. Besides which, I'm not convinced it is the connector even if I can't see what else it could possibly be. What could possibly be causing it to be quite so random about this? Is there any way at all I can fix this myself, or is this something where the only way of ever getting it fixed would be to take it in for repair at extreme cost (and no phone for a while too)? Anyone have any idea what it might cost for such a repair?

Well I'm sure you noticed the metal charging usb port that is connected to the circuit board.
It sounds to me that it may have broke free a little bit and not making a solid connection.
First thing I would do is try some one else's charger and see if it works ( Just in case)
Then If that failed I would take apart the phone and inspect the connector.
Ten screws on the back plastic and one little black one on the circuit board.
Next you pop off the ribbon connectors and finally pop off the wire connector that runs along the right side of your phone when laying face down,
Double check all connectors and remove circuit board carefully.
Now you will be free to inspect connector
For all you know. Pushing it down with some pressure on the thumb may give you the connection you need again and you should be good to go.
But you really need to see what's broken before you go to fix it.
Good luck. Pm me if you need further help

Well, like I said, I opened it up and I just can't find any signs of damage to the connector or the board. Also, if you look at the SGS3, the connector is actually inside the casing somewhat, so really I don't see how it could have bee damaged anyway -- I'm just not sure what else it could be since, as I said, I also couldn't find any cracks in the PCB or anything.
Oh, and I've used four different chargers and at least three different cables. One charger and cable is the OEM set for the SGS3 and another is the OEM set for the Nexus 7 (which is probably a decent amount more more power hungry.)

Nazo said:
Well, this isn't the best place to ask, but I'm not sure where else to do so. Somehow I managed to drop my phone (onto a carpeted floor from not quite a full standing height, not concrete or anything) and it landed right on the bottom I think. I can't see any signs of damage anywhere at all -- I even pulled out the screws and looked at the PCB itself and I just can't see anything obvious at all. Unfortunately, something obviously is wrong all the same. It simply will not charge at all most of the time, though seemingly randomly on a whim when I connect it sometimes it will. I'm afraid even to touch it once it finally does as just moving the cable around seems to be enough to make it stop sometimes (whereas at some other times I can move it around a lot and everything and it still stays connected.) Last night it decided not to even charge even though the LED indicator and the icon showed that it was connected. What's more, I can no longer use the USB OTG capability to plug in USB drives, other devices, and etc (which I used for diagnostics, repairs, and etc of other things on the go.) I have multiple batteries and external chargers, so this isn't completely fatal but it means:
A. I can't keep it from running the batteries down in the first place (which means larger wear and tear on the batteries long-term since they are discharged further before charging.)
B. Since it's like this it means generally speaking it's not as ready for a fully day of use since it's starting the day with less than 100% charge before I even leave for work every time now.
C. I really did use the USB OTG feature and have already been missing it. It's not as fatal as devices like my Nexus 7 (since that lacks a MicroSDHC card reader to supplement its internal storage whereas this has one) but very annoying at least.
D. I really really miss being able to use a phone dock! I was docking it in my car to keep it at least semi-charged and to output a line output to my car stereo system. It's kind of a pain having to change the volume back and forth between headphones and line output (since a line output really needs the full volume) and obviously it uses more power while playing than just sitting quietly in a pocket anyway. I also liked the way in the dock it wouldn't completely shut off the screen, just go into a really low power mode where it had a faded clock (might be a CM10.1 feature, but nice wherever it came from) and I could just touch it to get back to the player controls.
At first I thought it was just loose, so I tried putting a very thin piece of plastic in the top part of the connector so the connection is extremely tight which fooled me at first by pretending to work really well for a while, but then after a while it just did the same stuff all over again (so it was just doing that thing where it works fine for a little while even when I move the cord around.) I just can't see what could possibly be the problem though because if there is any damage anywhere I'm just not seeing it. I really don't see how the connector could have been damaged anyway since it more or less landed straight on the middle of the bottom (and that ring that goes around the side should have absorbed the shock) but with no cracks on the PCB or anything that I can at all see I can't imagine what else it might be -- plus a few times when it decided to charge it was just sitting flat not being touched and suddenly started working randomly. It really is like it just works on a whim here...
So I'm wondering: just how screwed am I here? I don't have any sort of drop insurance -- I've never dropped a phone in a way that damaged it before -- and I don't think there's any way I could afford the ridiculous amounts they'd surely want for a repair (not to mention that for a while I'd have no phone at all if I did that...) I thought about changing out the connector myself (I see one on Amazon for $8 which is ridiculous, but obviously it has to be the exact same connector) but I'm not terribly confident about desoldering and resoldering something with such small connectors as it is and that one is hard to get to anyway. Besides which, I'm not convinced it is the connector even if I can't see what else it could possibly be. What could possibly be causing it to be quite so random about this? Is there any way at all I can fix this myself, or is this something where the only way of ever getting it fixed would be to take it in for repair at extreme cost (and no phone for a while too)? Anyone have any idea what it might cost for such a repair?
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You might as well try it yourself THEN go somewhere if it doesn't work out. I wouldn't think if things go horribly wrong that you'd do damage that isn't reversible, and if there was damage it would likely be just to that $8 piece.
You sound like a knowledgeable guy though, so I'd give it a shot.
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The thing is, I don't really want to spend the $8 (I'm getting pretty broke) and have to try to desolder then resolder those tiny contacts on a board I'm not even entirely sure how to safely get out possibly messing something else up along the way when I'm not convinced it is the connector (and obviously if I messed something else up along the way I could make things a lot worse -- for instance, breaking it entirely...) Things that should make it work if it were (jiggling and shaking it for instance) don't seem to and then some things that should work don't (for example, last night I disconnected the phone from one charger and connected it to another while it was at least pretending to work and it stopped even though the connector part didn't get moved at all.)
That's my real concern in the end. If it's not the connector, what is it? I'm not 100% confident about trying to replace it myself as it is, but if it's not that the time, money, and effort would be wasted...

Well that's that. The problem, as I feared, was more fundamental (which is part of what I was asking here.) I plugged in something last night and it just shut off. I checked all over and couldn't find shorts or anything to explain it. Even after leaving the battery out overnight it still won't come on. Clearly the problem was much more fundamental than it seemed. Regardless, the question of the connector is moot now. EDIT: It might have been caused by the connector after all. It seems like there are pins at the back that either are loose or were knocked loose by the fall. I THINK one of them was touching another causing a short. Unfortunately, it's too late to discover that now as either way the damage is already done and it no longer works even after I got them straightened out.

Dock not charging, tablet does (also through dock)

This has been going on for a while and hasnt bothered me too much, until now!
The thing is my dock hasn't been charging for quite a while, battery is stuck at 0%. The light is blinking orange when the tablet is docked in and/or the charger is connected. The tablet itself charges just fine, also through the dock.
I have already opened the dock, nothing strange. Battery appears fine (not swolen or anything) and nothing weird with the connection. I have been flipping the SW1001 swithc like crazy as well (even though by now I don;t remember the default anymore, open or closed... or what open or closed actually is. Even though on the backside of the PCB there is some 'open' print).
I have tried charging the dock (both seperately as with tablet docked in) with switch in both connections (for quite a few hours) but without luck. The led is blinking the same way, no matter how I put the switch.
Also tried flashing stock firmware again, no luck.
* Is there a way to test the dock battery? (Apart from switching the dock and tablet battery for example).
* Does anyone know what the default posittion of the SW1001 swithc is? (This is the switch on the right side of the left pcb inside the keyboard dock).
* Any other tricks getting the dock battery to charge again?
I have been thinking of ordering a new battery (or possibly entire dock, might be able to get one second handed) but would really like to have tried everything else first

To test the dock battery (or any battery), use a multimeter, find out what the voltage should be (I believe but don't hold me to it) that the dock and internal battery should be ~15v. Check on the internet (google, youtube, etc) for correct usage of a multimeter. If the battery is fine, you already have the multimeter in front of you, check the connections to the tablet from the battery.
If you don't know where to get a multimeter, (you probably shouldn't have opened the dock) you can get one at RadioShack, Home Depot, Lowes, Menards, Frys, decent gas stations, the internet. You get the idea: they're everywhere.

da3dsoul said:
To test the dock battery (or any battery), use a multimeter, find out what the voltage should be (I believe but don't hold me to it) that the dock and internal battery should be ~15v. Check on the internet (google, youtube, etc) for correct usage of a multimeter. If the battery is fine, you already have the multimeter in front of you, check the connections to the tablet from the battery.
If you don't know where to get a multimeter, (you probably shouldn't have opened the dock) you can get one at RadioShack, Home Depot, Lowes, Menards, Frys, decent gas stations, the internet. You get the idea: they're everywhere.
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Cheers, I do have a multimeter so will indeed give that a try.
Not sure how to actually measure this battery:
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but I'll see if I can find anything.
Also, perhaps I'll try swapping the battery from the tablet and dock as well anyway. Hard to tell if the battery is at fault or some other part (charging the battery).

As a last resort, because these batteries often won't charge up again if they drop to 0% would be to (safely) warm it up, might give it that 1% needed to kick start it
Used to put my pencil batteries on the hot radiator for an hour when they had run out, and normally got a little longer out of them until they cooled down
Not sure if that works with Li-Ion but wouldn't hurt
Ive had the 0% dead battery problem with the dock, but swapping between SW1001 switch positions every half hour eventually got it charging again

*Detection* said:
As a last resort, because these batteries often won't charge up again if they drop to 0% would be to (safely) warm it up, might give it that 1% needed to kick start it
Used to put my pencil batteries on the hot radiator for an hour when they had run out, and normally got a little longer out of them until they cooled down
Not sure if that works with Li-Ion but wouldn't hurt
Ive had the 0% dead battery problem with the dock, but swapping between SW1001 switch positions every half hour eventually got it charging again
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Thanks for the tip, nice alternative for the 'putting it in the fridge' one, will certainly give that a try too. I actually closed the dock again, but guess I'll be popping it open again this evening hehe.
Do you happen to remember/recall what the proper position of the SW1001 switch was?

Hmmm...thanks Asus, that makes everything easier....Usually red and black are +/-, there appears to be text on the battery cables. Check to see if any have + out, - out, + discharge, etc, etc. You want to see if it will output any current, because if it does, it is not really 0%, just really low. If you find which ones are charging inputs, give it a (small) jolt of like 0.25v - 0.5v higher than what it asks for a couple minutes and then switch back to normal.

dagrim1 said:
Thanks for the tip, nice alternative for the 'putting it in the fridge' one, will certainly give that a try too. I actually closed the dock again, but guess I'll be popping it open again this evening hehe.
Do you happen to remember/recall what the proper position of the SW1001 switch was?
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I can do one better - just remembered Id seen this a while back
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Disassemble-the-ASUS-Transformer-TF101-Keyb/?ALLSTEPS

Great, cheers guys!
Guess I'll have some playing to do. (Hell, it's prolly easier to just shell 30 bucks for a new battery but it's a matter of principle now )

lol yea, good luck - it's a pain because the actual battery is likely still fine, they just refuse to charge if completely drained, but, Ive managed it before and so have others, so you have some hope

Haha, thanks Ah well, I do enjoy tinkering around with this stuff (but I'm also clumsy at times, accidently pulling out cables and/or ribbons ).
Multimeter didn't work btw, couldn't manage to get a reading (hard to make contact with any of the wires of the battery, as well as no clue which wires do what... couldn't really read the text). Did manage to connect the tablet battery with the dock connector, immediately got a green light instead of constantly blinking orange/amber one. Attaching the dock battery to the tablet only resulted in a boot if I connected the charger... Resulted in a 0% battery and message "please connect the charger" so yeah, seems the battery is indeed the issue.
Either indeed depleted to 0% or perhaps the wiring is broken. Anyway, the battery is in the freezer now and am going to take it out tomorrow. If that doesn't work, I'll put it on the radiator in order to heat it up a bit (or perhaps a blowdryer on a low setting, will see). If that also doesn't work I guess I'll have to order a new battery afterall (might as well to round things up).
Of course now I also noticed I only get sound from one speaker Hell, and to consider we don;t even use this tablet anymore haha.

Never heard of putting batteries in the freezer, putting the charger in the freezer works only because it resets the thermal cut out switch, but not heard it about the actual batteries
For storing them when not in use, Ive heard you charge them to 50% and seal them in an airtight zip bag and store in the fridge for maximum lifespan
Make sure you let it thaw out back to room temp before putting it on the radiator though or you'll end up with condensation inside of it
Don't know about the wire colours either unfortunately
Fun project anyway, keeps you out of mischief

Ah well, freezing and heating it up didn't seem to work either... So I just ordered a new battery anyway (and speakers, lol... might as well finish it up properly then). Will take a bit before they're in but at least then I can let this rest
Tnx for the assistance and tips though, was a fun project nonetheless.

Just to finish this up, got the new battery and speakers yesterday... Built them into the TF101 and all is working fine now again (Of course there is still a volume difference in left/right speakers, haven't been able to figure out the proper settings in the config file from that other thread so I guess I'll just leave it for now).
So all is ok, except the charger of course, of which I think I already had 3 or 4 ones breaking so I gave up on those and just use the DIY charger which works just fine.

Good to hear it's almost back to 100% - are you running stock firmware?
I remember the speaker volume differences with stock - the latest KatKiss KitKat ROM by Timduru has even speaker volumes and the KatApp volume booster he makes has more options to boost the volumes and makes a big difference
#23c is the latest KK ROM - make sure you have TWRP recovery installed before flashing it though

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Good to hear it's almost back to 100% - are you running stock firmware?
I remember the speaker volume differences with stock - the latest KatKiss KitKat ROM by Timduru has even speaker volumes and the KatApp volume booster he makes has more options to boost the volumes and makes a big difference
#23c is the latest KK ROM - make sure you have TWRP recovery installed before flashing it though
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Cheers!
I am running kitkat btw, but even then there's a difference in volume... I think it's #23 but will have to doublecheck that, as well as the volume apps you mentioned. On the other hand, it's not that big of an issue (would be nice to really fix everything though hehe).

You could try the fix that used to work for stock - see if it has the same issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1118010
Also I noticed some of the holes in the bezel that let the audio come out from the speakers are either blocked or tiny, I used a sewing needle to bore out the holes which improved audio levels too
Just watch you don't push right through the speaker, might be an idea to remove the bezel to do it

*Detection* said:
You could try the fix that used to work for stock - see if it has the same issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1118010
Also I noticed some of the holes in the bezel that let the audio come out from the speakers are either blocked or tiny, I used a sewing needle to bore out the holes which improved audio levels too
Just watch you don't push right through the speaker, might be an idea to remove the bezel to do it
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Have tried several values from that thread but without any real results (also pretty tedious to test the settings). Might look into drilling/cleaning the speaker holes though. Saw another thread where it was recommended to turn around the speakers and drill some holes in the grill as well, but that;s a bit too much for now.
Cheers for the tips and recommendations though

Yea I was thinking about turning the speakers around too, not sure why they positioned them pointing away from the holes to begin with, or why they put the holes in the side instead of the front - but that's ASUS for you
Hopefully you'll find a solution eventually

Well, this how I solved the dock battery issue, it worked for me so maybe will work for somebody else.
I unwrapped the black plastic foil of the battery pack and checked the tensions, one of the two units was under 1.0 volt so I charged for some seconds enforcing from a charger.
I reassemble all and dock now is at 1% and charging ok.
Please be careful and be aware that a wrong or too much time can lead to explosion.

[Q] M8 No longer charging. Any options?

I bought the M8 six months ago and loved it to death. Nothing was wrong with the phone.
Suddenly the battery quit taking a charge from any charger plugged into it. I went to Verizon to get it resolved but the only option was to send it to a hokey cell phone repair type place who wouldn't give me a quote on the cost to fix it.
I just purchased a new charger port (the board that includes the audio out port and ribbon cable) that will be shipped next week. The phone is already apart and the offending part removed.
Figuring it could be some solder joints that got yanked loose at some point and I was already going to replace the part, I baked the old part at 385 F for 6 minutes. No luck.
Are there any other options for charging my battery? I'm talking physically charging the battery directly. Is this possible? Are there any other options for me to charge this brick until I get my replacement part? Also, is it possible the charger port isn't even my issue?
EDIT: I figure it's important to know this: The phone is completely dead. I can't get anything at all to show on the screen. No charging light. Power+Volume up for any length of time does nothing, as does power+volume up+volume down.

JMShoots said:
I bought the M8 six months ago and loved it to death. Nothing was wrong with the phone.
Suddenly the battery quit taking a charge from any charger plugged into it. I went to Verizon to get it resolved but the only option was to send it to a hokey cell phone repair type place who wouldn't give me a quote on the cost to fix it.
I just purchased a new charger port (the board that includes the audio out port and ribbon cable) that will be shipped next week. The phone is already apart and the offending part removed.
Figuring it could be some solder joints that got yanked loose at some point and I was already going to replace the part, I baked the old part at 385 F for 6 minutes. No luck.
Are there any other options for charging my battery? I'm talking physically charging the battery directly. Is this possible? Are there any other options for me to charge this brick until I get my replacement part? Also, is it possible the charger port isn't even my issue?
EDIT: I figure it's important to know this: The phone is completely dead. I can't get anything at all to show on the screen. No charging light. Power+Volume up for any length of time does nothing, as does power+volume up+volume down.
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Call HTC and get it fixed under warranty.

beaups said:
Call HTC and get it fixed under warranty.
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Brought it to Verizon a week ago. No warranty through them because of case scratches. Do you think HTC would be any different?

JMShoots said:
Brought it to Verizon a week ago. No warranty through them because of case scratches. Do you think HTC would be any different?
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Probably. Either way your gonna need to get it fixed.

JMShoots said:
I bought the M8 six months ago and loved it to death. Nothing was wrong with the phone.
Suddenly the battery quit taking a charge from any charger plugged into it. I went to Verizon to get it resolved but the only option was to send it to a hokey cell phone repair type place who wouldn't give me a quote on the cost to fix it.
I just purchased a new charger port (the board that includes the audio out port and ribbon cable) that will be shipped next week. The phone is already apart and the offending part removed.
Figuring it could be some solder joints that got yanked loose at some point and I was already going to replace the part, I baked the old part at 385 F for 6 minutes. No luck.
Are there any other options for charging my battery? I'm talking physically charging the battery directly. Is this possible? Are there any other options for me to charge this brick until I get my replacement part? Also, is it possible the charger port isn't even my issue?
EDIT: I figure it's important to know this: The phone is completely dead. I can't get anything at all to show on the screen. No charging light. Power+Volume up for any length of time does nothing, as does power+volume up+volume down.
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Did it just flat out die one day or did you try charging it while it was still only to notice it not actually charging. If it's totally ran down and you fixed the port, it could take up to twenty minutes until you see the charge light.

dottat said:
Did it just flat out die one day or did you try charging it while it was still only to notice it not actually charging. If it's totally ran down and you fixed the port, it could take up to twenty minutes until you see the charge light.
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I was having a couple issues a little while back where it would take significant persuasion to get the thing to charge. That's why I figure it's the port. At some point the phone died and since then it hasn't charged. I left it on the charger for over 5 hours hoping to get something. Nope. I haven't replaced the port yet, the new port comes next week. If it's the port I'm all good. In the mean time, I want to know if there's any way I could get this existing junk port to work somehow.
Been without a phone for a week now. Didn't realize how much I needed it until it died.

JMShoots said:
I was having a couple issues a little while back where it would take significant persuasion to get the thing to charge. That's why I figure it's the port. At some point the phone died and since then it hasn't charged. I left it on the charger for over 5 hours hoping to get something. Nope. I haven't replaced the port yet, the new port comes next week. If it's the port I'm all good. In the mean time, I want to know if there's any way I could get this existing junk port to work somehow.
Been without a phone for a week now. Didn't realize how much I needed it until it died.
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I took a good look at the teardown of this phone the other day. Did you repeat the ribbon cable once or twice? Look inside for foreign matter? I would recommend against tinkering until you have the new part. The new part is your most logical approach and will be easy to test.
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I took a good look at the teardown of this phone the other day. Did you repeat the ribbon cable once or twice? Look inside for foreign matter? I would recommend against tinkering until you have the new part. The new part is your most logical approach and will be easy to test.
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Do you mean repeat the cable as in unlatch it, remove it, and relatch it? I did that several times in the process of trying to get the board to work. And do you mean inside as in the inside of where the ribbon cable attaches? I haven't done that but I'll be very surprised if there's anything in there. The port itself is completely clean, not bent, no corrosion.
I'm pretty good with soldering and the like because I did micro-pcb assembling for work a while back and other projects. I'm not scared of tearing this board apart (the charger port board, that is).
Oh, and before I forget, what is that aux clip on the left for? I have two aux cables that attach to my charger port board but on my replacement there's only one. I checked part numbers for my phone but everything I've found says it's compatible.

JMShoots said:
Do you mean repeat the cable as in unlatch it, remove it, and relatch it? I did that several times in the process of trying to get the board to work. And do you mean inside as in the inside of where the ribbon cable attaches? I haven't done that but I'll be very surprised if there's anything in there. The port itself is completely clean, not bent, no corrosion.
I'm pretty good with soldering and the like because I did micro-pcb assembling for work a while back and other projects. I'm not scared of tearing this board apart (the charger port board, that is).
Oh, and before I forget, what is that aux clip on the left for? I have two aux cables that attach to my charger port board but on my replacement there's only one. I checked part numbers for my phone but everything I've found says it's compatible.
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Freaking spell check got me. Yes reseat. As for debris I meant buried in the usb port itself.
The aux port question...you referring to the two mini-rf connectors?

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Freaking spell check got me. Yes reseat. As for debris I meant buried in the usb port itself.
The aux port question...you referring to the two mini-rf connectors?
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Yes, the black one. There's no clip to seat the connector into on the replacement board. I'd link you to the amazon part I purchased but I can't post links. What is the black one for?

JMShoots said:
Yes, the black one. There's no clip to seat the connector into on the replacement board. I'd link you to the amazon part I purchased but I can't post links. What is the black one for?
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By the colors and without digging I'm guessing WiFi. . Lemme go look up the board.

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By the colors and without digging I'm guessing WiFi. . Lemme go look up the board.
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Oh, nuts. Of course it's something major. Here, I'll link the page without hyperlinking it:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00O6N4GF2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Just by inspection all the brass pieces (if they are brass) could be salvaged and resoldered to the board I bought. The solder pads are all there, they just don't have the part on them.

JMShoots said:
Oh, nuts. Of course it's something major. Here, I'll link the page without hyperlinking it:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00O6N4GF2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Just by inspection all the brass pieces (if they are brass) could be salvaged and resoldered to the board I bought. The solder pads are all there, they just don't have the part on them.
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Well look at it this way... This will let you know if it's the USB port either way.

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Well look at it this way... This will let you know if it's the USB port either way.
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I can still cancel the order at this point. Do you know where I can get the correct port from? I've searched everywhere and short of buying overseas and receiving it next month (or later), I haven't found anything at all.

JMShoots said:
I can still cancel the order at this point. Do you know where I can get the correct port from? I've searched everywhere and short of buying overseas and receiving it next month (or later), I haven't found anything at all.
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Out of stock here but right pic. http://www.parts4repair.com/dock-charging-flex-cable-for-htc-one-m8/
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JMShoots said:
I can still cancel the order at this point. Do you know where I can get the correct port from? I've searched everywhere and short of buying overseas and receiving it next month (or later), I haven't found anything at all.
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Here's one from Ali..... They are normally fast to ship...
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/HTC-...ng-Port-USB-Socket-Flex-Cable/2012520456.html
I would probably verify that charge works using the cable you have coming. Then move that connector over. That way you verify the port issue first.

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Out of stock here but right pic. http://www.parts4repair.com/dock-charging-flex-cable-for-htc-one-m8/
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Here's one from Ali..... They are normally fast to ship...
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/HTC-...ng-Port-USB-Socket-Flex-Cable/2012520456.html
I would probably verify that charge works using the cable you have coming. Then move that connector over. That way you verify the port issue first.
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I really appreciate your help. If I can pick your brain here, do you know of any methods to test if the port is actually busted and it's not a faulty battery? That's before I get the parts, that is.

JMShoots said:
I really appreciate your help. If I can pick your brain here, do you know of any methods to test if the port is actually busted and it's not a faulty battery?
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You could remove the cable and plug it into a charger... Then see if you find 5volts of DC on ribbon end. See if power is making in through the cable.

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You could remove the cable and plug it into a charger... Then see if you find 5volts of DC on ribbon end. See if power is making in through the cable.
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Gotcha, I'll do that. The ribbon has many cables through it. I'm assuming they alternate polarities and I can just pick one cable in the ribbon and test it against another?

JMShoots said:
Gotcha, I'll do that. The ribbon has many cables through it. I'm assuming they alternate polarities and I can just pick one cable in the ribbon and test it against another?
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You are gonna have to find the right two. I'm sure you can though ☺

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You are gonna have to find the right two. I'm sure you can though ☺
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All righty. I'll give it a go. I'll let you know how it goes tomorrow. Once again, I appreciate the help.