Is Surface Pro 1 good for Android development use? - Microsoft Surface

Hey guys,
I am thinking on buy a Surface Pro 1 which is not too expensive (about 350€ in Spain - resale method) to basically develop in Android Studio or whatever other IDE like Eclipse, NetBeans, IntelliJ, BlueJ. Also VS2015 could be another one. It seems to have enough specs to compile and run projects without problems but maybe some of you can help me to clarify this. Specs are:
Intel Core i5-3317U (3M Cache; 1.7GHz)
4GB RAM
10,6" - 16:9 Full HD 1920 x 1080
Intel HD Graphics 4000
What do you think?
Thanks a lot .

pep0te said:
Hey guys,
I am thinking on buy a Surface Pro 1 which is not too expensive (about 350€ in Spain - resale method) to basically develop in Android Studio or whatever other IDE like Eclipse, NetBeans, IntelliJ, BlueJ. Also VS2015 could be another one. It seems to have enough specs to compile and run projects without problems but maybe some of you can help me to clarify this. Specs are:
Intel Core i5-3317U (3M Cache; 1.7GHz)
4GB RAM
10,6" - 16:9 Full HD 1920 x 1080
Intel HD Graphics 4000
What do you think?
Thanks a lot .
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You should buy thier wireless mouse and type cover too, and a 20 inch monitor too , program on a litte screen can hurt your neck and your eye too.
I dont know what programmer usually do but run cpu about 50% 60% is good enough.

puacham said:
You should buy thier wireless mouse and type cover too, and a 20 inch monitor too , program on a litte screen can hurt your neck and your eye too.
I dont know what programmer usually do but run cpu about 50% 60% is good enough.
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Hiho, thanks for answer.
I speak about Surface also for its weight (around 2lbs - 907g), because I will change to another country and maybe I need to use it while I am in a train or flight. Of course once I am at home I can use either Surface or desktop PC which is a master race specs

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Android Tablet (x2) needing custom roms

Hey gang,
I have a unique request for a couple roms.
I ordered 2 android tablets and am currently waiting for them to arrive. Probably 2 weeks or so.
Google Android 7" Netbook Tablet PC UMPC MID 1.2GHZ
Google Android 7" notebook Netbook Tablet PC UMPC MID
I bought them to simply play with and will probably give them to family members once I am done tinkering around. They were pretty cheap so big loss if they totally suck. Once I receive them I will do a proper review on the full features of these two devices since most online reviews are sorta vague and lacking in the full specs department. Once received I will try to get to a bootloader screen and see if rooting and pushing new versions of Android is even possible. Both devices "say" they will have upgraded roms in the future, but we all know how that is . I just wanted to post here and see if any Devs wanted to try to root these things in hopes of making them more functional.
Below are the full specs that was listed for each device. Again, The specs listed are never consistent from site to site so there is no telling what each tablet will include internally.
Google Android 7" Netbook Tablet PC UMPC MID 1.2GHZ
(pics)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4006/4553728445_34fcf28b5d_o.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4024/4553729623_89a7091e2a_o.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4033/4553728439_62e38eae56_o.jpg
Hardware: Specs
Processor: CPU600MHz+DSP600MHZ
Processor frequency: 1.2GHz
Memory: FAST EPC DDR 128MB
Built-NandFlash: 2G NAND FLASH (1.2G Available)
Expansion storage devices: TF card, Flash Drives (UP to 32GB)
LCD display: 7 “TFT touch screen, 800 × 480
Touch: Multi-Point Touch Screen
Internet support: WIFI wireless Internet access to support
USB: 2 X USB
Audio: Built-in stereo speakers
Battery: 2700mAH, 7.4V Li-ion batteries
Power adapter: 110 or 240V Input, 9V DC Output, 2A
Product Size: 237mm × 125mm × 14mm
Operating system: Android 1.5
Games\Applications: Download large quantity of applications and games
Editing tools: QUICK OFFICE
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Google Android 7" notebook Netbook Tablet PC UMPC MID
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http://suot1a.bay.livefilestore.com...sp_JRy6ICLbDBIK9YOJe9R8IUIdJ3D/tablets002.jpg
http://suot1a.bay.livefilestore.com...q1E1aB475vpTI2f4CUG_fwF3WpHgpk/tablets003.jpg
http://suot1a.bay.livefilestore.com...MMokAzo7nMLyKGg1R6fzPPgG0ZSGNu/tablets004.jpg
http://suot1a.bay.livefilestore.com...u0VUvvnrOlTvFuyKc7JzlcmWMUdHU0/tablets006.jpg
http://suot1a.bay.livefilestore.com...NLystC24idfZ3T_NWRrXnFVdLxarVB/tablets010.jpg
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/3/6/1/3/2/0/webimg/370911119_o.jpg
Hardware: Specs
RAM Installed Size: DDR 128MB
Display Diagonal Size: 7" touch panel
Max Resolution: 800X480
Display Technology: TFT
Graphics Type: Integrated Graphics
Input/ Output Connectors: Audio/Video
Built in 1×0.5W speaker,1× Integrated mircrophone, earphone×1
Memory Card: 1x SD card slot. a 2GB SD card is attached for the item.
Wireless Connection: WIFI 802.11 a/b/g
Operating System: Andriod 1.6
IM Software
MSN, Skype
Browser: Andriod Browser
Office: Word To Go, Sheet To Go, Slideshow To Go, PDF To Go.
Media player: PeacockVideo, Music Player
Mail: Android Email,POP3/IMAP/SMTP
Audio: MP3
Video: MP4 for Andriod
Image: Jpeg, Gif
Other Software: Google Maps,Calendar, Contacts, and many free software for Andriod.
Battery Type: Built in 7.4V 1600MAH Li-ion Battery
Battery Run Time: (up to) 2 Hours
Power Device Type: AC Adapter
Voltage required: 100/240V
Color: White
Dimensions / 207mm(L) x119mm(W) x12mm(H)
Again, these two tablets are uber cheap. I expect them to be nothing more than what is listed above (at best). I am not expecting them to run like a unit with a Snapdragon processor ... more like a G1
All in fun ya know! Only way to learn.
If anyone is interested in having a 'remote' go at these via chat or something just shoot me an email or PM.
I will update this post when I actually receive the devices.
Later!
~Syn
[email protected]
I wonder what the specific specs are on that 1.2ghz cpu, and if it can support flash 10.1 when it comes out or not.
On the model with the 1.2GHz CPU, the seller is actually a combining the MHz from both the "CPU600MHz+DSP600MHZ" to come up with the 1.2GHz.
It is really just a 600MHz processor :\
I will run some benchmark tests on both units though
M001
I receieved my M001 yesterday......looking forward to a weekend of playing
rkmoray said:
I receieved my M001 yesterday......looking forward to a weekend of playing
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WOOT!
Maybe you can provide a little review? ... Like benchmarking and stuff. Also, if you have the time, see if you can figure out different boot modes.
Different button combinations and stuff. I plan to do all this when I get mine. Just wanting to get a jump on things =)
check slatedroid.com for a community around these, including custom ROMs
I am watching this closely because I am interested in the aPad version
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280506433798&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
http://cgi.ebay.com/Apad-Super-Thin...md=ViewItem&pt=US_Tablets&hash=item3a5ae6bad5
I'm interested in picking on up too. It would pair good with my Hero, especially if I can't get my hands on a EVO 4G.
And the fact that it has slightly better specs than the Hero I don't see why it couldn't run 2.1 or even 2.2.
bostwickenator said:
check slatedroid.com for a community around these, including custom ROMs
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Will do! Good to know there are other communities out there that aren't just HTC based. (no disrespect to XDA of course)
DanRo80 said:
I am watching this closely because I am interested in the aPad version
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280506433798&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
http://cgi.ebay.com/Apad-Super-Thin...md=ViewItem&pt=US_Tablets&hash=item3a5ae6bad5
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I agree. I actually want the aPad version, but I decided to roll the dice and see what hardware the cheaper version has.
If it doesn't have the webcam, I will just sell it at my cost and get the aPad version
If I have to wait for the aPad, I'll still have the cheaper white one to play with to pass the time.
INTERESTING STUFF!
I just noticed the ePad version has 1.5 and the white one has 1.6
jtheking said:
I just noticed the ePad version has 1.5 and the white one has 1.6
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Correct.
The aPad (black one) has Android 1.5, but they state they will offer upgrades to the OS later because this tablet is only a few weeks old on the market.
The "Eken M001" (white one) comes stock with Android 1.6
Evidentially, there is already a ROM replacement at SlateDroid.com for the white model!
I REALLY can't wait to get both of them and do some massive testing!
FUN STUFF!
EKEN M001 off of ebay. Got 2
I just got 2 EKEN M001 for 30$ each off of ebay .. They have the same speks as the one listed here. There are many Chinese clones of the Ipad and they are at a realy good price. Now if only we can get a build of 2.2 with JIT working on them .. they will be realy great
labellee25 said:
I just got 2 EKEN M001 for 30$ each off of ebay .. They have the same speks as the one listed here. There are many Chinese clones of the Ipad and they are at a realy good price. Now if only we can get a build of 2.2 with JIT working on them .. they will be realy great
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Ebay USA?
Do you have a link to to the seller?
jtheking said:
Ebay USA?
Do you have a link to to the seller?
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NO KIDDING !!!
I gave $100 for mine shipped
on the slatedroid forum concerning the M001 (white version), users can not play videos, the internet is very slow and the WIFI is very weak and randomly drops the signal. Someone stated that the OS is not as refined as it appears from the videos (some sorry build of Android). I hope the reviews are better for the apad version.
Looks to me like they are a little light on memory with only 128 mb.
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Looks to me like they are a little light on memory with only 128 mb.
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yea that's a problem with me, on Slatedroid forums they are trying to figure out a way to upgrade it.
Is it not possible to some how allocate some space from an SD or microsd card as ram, kind of how you can do it on a PC?
tbaker077 said:
Is it not possible to some how allocate some space from an SD or microsd card as ram, kind of how you can do it on a PC?
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Virtual Memory?
I don't think Android makes use of that. It sounds like a great app though =)
tbaker077 said:
Is it not possible to some how allocate some space from an SD or microsd card as ram, kind of how you can do it on a PC?
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i think your talking about swap

Android Tablet Discussion

I was thinking that a Generic Android Tablet Discussion thread would be a good idea. No matter the brand , maker size etc. Talk about them here.
Im debating between the Archos 101 and waiting to see if the Moto tab is good.
Whats Out There
I have been keeping a keen eye out for the variety of higher end tablets and here is what I have sort of come up with so far:
Samsung Tablet (7")
Motorola Stingray (10")
Viewsonic viewpad (7")
LG Optimus pad
SteamTV Elocity pad (7")
Archos Family of pads (3"-10")
They all have there merits, and the minor things that make them not so great. But here is a list of the gamot of features you can look for. Some of the tablets have alot of them, some have none, its basically what you want to do with it:
3G
WIFI
GPS
Bluetooth 2.1 or 3.0
Capacitive Screen
USB port(s)
(Micro) SD card slot
HDMI
G-Sensor
Accelerator meter
Geomagnetic sensor
Light Sensor
Front Camera
Back Camera
Google Apps Integration
NVIDA Tegra 2 versus 1GHx CPU w/ GPU
1024 x 600 resolution versus 800 x 480
RAM
Disk Space
Version of Android (2.2 now 3.0 later)
-MW
I know they are poppping out of the woodwork now. My biggest thing is that the majority are really expensive. Like the new Toshiba announced today is $540. THat is why Either the Cruz or Archos will match all my criteria. But the nice thing is that there seems to be a ton of different options.
Toshiba Folio 100
10.1-inch capacitive touchscreen
1024 x 600
Android 2.2 (Froyo)
NVIDIA Tegra 2 processor
16 GB internal storage (32 GB available SD expansion)
Adobe Flash 10.1
1.3 MP front-facing camera
Mini-HDMI
USB 2.0
Bluetooth 2.1
WLAN (802.11)
Mobile broadband (available Q1 2011)
I've been disappointed with the IFA ones as almost all of them have 3G which means here, onerous data contracts or ridiculous prices w/o.
Archos underwent feature regression(e.g. no GPS), and has some whacked prices for the 70 & 101. The rest seem kind of useless to me too small and at least the smallest two don't have any way of expanding storage which makes them kind of useless as anything other than a portable music player.
The Viewsonic is the Olivepad one? Didn't seem to be all that great.
Toshiba Folio MIGHT have been nice, but that Tegra will likely make it expensive.
...just too many hawking 3G and not enough that have useful extras like higher res cameras, GPS, mics, and maybe bluetooth... i.e. I'm just meh'ed by IFA offerings... Witstech A81-E is still looking good and they just got another new fw release 8/31...
Good catch, forgot the toshiba one. Here is what I am looking for a tablet:
3G (mainly so I can have google apps)
7" Display
Capacitive screen (OMLED prefered)
1024 x 600
Android 2.2 upgradeable to android 3.0
front camera
1 GHz CPU (perferably the tegra 2)
GPU (if no NVIDIA CPU)
front camera (dont care about a back one)
A-GPS
Bluetooth (at least 2.1)
WIFI B/G/N
USB
8+ GB internal storage
SD card slot is nice but not manditory
HDMI is nice but not manditory
Which matches up with the samsung tab, but the British price I found had it at over 600 British pounds, which converts to over 1000 US dollars.
-MW
mothy said:
I know they are poppping out of the woodwork now. My biggest thing is that the majority are really expensive. Like the new Toshiba announced today is $540. THat is why Either the Cruz or Archos will match all my criteria. But the nice thing is that there seems to be a ton of different options.
Toshiba Folio 100
10.1-inch capacitive touchscreen
1024 x 600
Android 2.2 (Froyo)
NVIDIA Tegra 2 processor
16 GB internal storage (32 GB available SD expansion)
Adobe Flash 10.1
1.3 MP front-facing camera
Mini-HDMI
USB 2.0
Bluetooth 2.1
WLAN (802.11)
Mobile broadband (available Q1 2011)
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Damn that is expensive.
Im mainly looking for a ereader, web surfer, watch some videos on trips, and check my gapps when on wifi.
Check out the stream tv elocity pad. No 3g, but no gps ether. the reason why everyone puts on 3g is because it's the only way to get google apps on it, until google changes their requirements for google apps.
-MW
Sent from my Android for Telechips TCC8900 Evaluation Board (US) using XDA App
My wishlist is 2ghz processor at least 50gb harddrive maybe even (dare I say it) windows 7. I would like my tablet to replace my laptop. Android just isn't ready yet.
I saw talks of honeycomb [url="http://phandroid.com/2010/09/02/android-3-5-honeycomb-to-be-on-samsungs-next-generation-of-tablets-in-2011/]"here[/url] on the samsung tablet. That might be nice . Or that isn't going to be outdated in a few months
Asadullah said:
My wishlist is 2ghz processor at least 50gb harddrive maybe even (dare I say it) windows 7. I would like my tablet to replace my laptop. Android just isn't ready yet.
I saw talks of honeycomb [url="http://phandroid.com/2010/09/02/android-3-5-honeycomb-to-be-on-samsungs-next-generation-of-tablets-in-2011/]"here[/url] on the samsung tablet. That might be nice . Or that isn't going to be outdated in a few months
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I think a 2Ghz CPU, as of right now, is over powered for android. I have a Gentouch78 tablet that runs at 600MHz and it seems to run OK. My 1GHz nexus one has had no issues, and I have it multi tasking several apps at once sometimes. It will get really hot, especially when I toss the car charger on it while its doing all that, but never seen it slow down to unresponsiveness. As for the HDD space. I dont use mine much for multi media, so 50gb would be overdoing it for me. Just the ability to have an SD card slot would be enough for me, that right there is 32 gb.
Now dealing with the android OS itself, this is where things are starting to get wierd. You have 2.2, which is really a phone OS, you have 3.0 which is really a tablet OS, and so the current samsung tablet is supposed to be 2.2 and will get 3.0, but now this 3.5 is where it gets confusing. Some of the stuff I have been reading is stating that 3.5 is going to be an entirely different OS completly, or at least have an entirely different usage beyond that of a tablet or cell phone. And that you will have to buy an entirely new piece of hardware to use it because samsung already said their current tablet wont get 3.5 when it comes out, but i twill get 3.0. This is making me think that 3.5 may be the google chrome OS, which from what I am hearing I am not a total fan of. So basically, the idea as I understand it, is that the hardware will just be the input/output device and all the applications will be stored on teh cloud as well as the work being done will be done on the cloud. This is all nice and dandy until either 1) everyone gets on all at once and bogs down the system or 2) the cloud or network goes down and the device is worthless. Thats why I like android right now. If you have no data connection you can still do work. Now some things on android that do run off the cloud, like the GPS, if you need to reroute and you loose the data connection, since all the work is done on the back end you cant get anywhere until the data connection comes back.
Since Android is a full fledge Linux OS I think it can do whatever you need it to do, you just need to port the apps over. So i think it can replace a laptop, but there will always be certain things that make a laptop easier to use that are unrelated to the android OS, like a real keyboard. With phones, for instance, I still feel more comfortable texting on a physical keyboard on my blackberry then I do on the virtual keyboard on my nexus one. Now can I develope a web page, photoshop some images and toss them on the web page, with android? If they ported the apps over then sure why not, the physical keyboard will just make it easier. But as soon as you start talking windows 7 you are changing the entire hardware requirements (ARM CPU versus an x86 CPU) which will allow you to run your favorite web development software and photo editing software, and now your 50gb of disk space will be all chewed up with the OS and applications but no room for media, and with the new hardware requirements the price goes up (not like the samsung tab isnt expensive either) but then the bottom line is its still awkward to use because of the lack of a physical keyboard.
Now I am just using web development/photo editing as an example, simplier tasks, like email and web surfing, will require less and are easily done on the android OS. But the bottom line is to use the right tool for the right job, outline your requirements and find a solution that best fits your needs. I believe that android will be a decent laptop replacement if all your doing with your laptop is surfing the web and sending email but if your trying to do less casual stuff, like photo editing and web development, then android right now is obviously not enough, but in the future it might be. It goes back to the age old question, does hardware push the software industry, or does software push the hardware industry?
-MW
Here is the Archos 101 in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZD4Mdkt40g
You can see all the new Archos line in action here:
http://archosfans.com/
Nice...
@mothy: They're all very nice and all..but taking out the GPS is like taking a step back.....Price is nice, but I'm sure there'll be cheaper WITH GPS before too long.
marcelol said:
@mothy: They're all very nice and all..but taking out the GPS is like taking a step back.....Price is nice, but I'm sure there'll be cheaper WITH GPS before too long.
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maybe..but for me I have no use for GPS on a tablet....but that is just me. Just like all new technologies price points will get better with maturity of product.
Hello, I am newbie in using (or just having) android tablet and I am seeking one that will suits me. I found this one
Code:
gpccn.com/picshow.asp?id=31&fl=Tablet%20pc
and like it.
I want
capacitive multitouch screen
fast CPU
7 to 10 inch screen
HDMI, USB, G-sensor etc
It looks that this device have all of this, but it has just 512MB nand and it has 1366x768 and I dont know if nand will be enough and if there will be any use for such high resolution if there is no possibilities for using market
What do you thing? Is there anybody who knows this company? Anybody with tablet 1366x768?
Thanks for any reply
ondrapopik said:
Hello, I am newbie in using (or just having) android tablet and I am seeking one that will suits me. I found this one
Code:
gpccn.com/picshow.asp?id=31&fl=Tablet%20pc
and like it.
I want
capacitive multitouch screen
fast CPU
7 to 10 inch screen
HDMI, USB, G-sensor etc
It looks that this device have all of this, but it has just 512MB nand and it has 1366x768 and I dont know if nand will be enough and if there will be any use for such high resolution if there is no possibilities for using market
What do you thing? Is there anybody who knows this company? Anybody with tablet 1366x768?
Thanks for any reply
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Hmmm.... looks like they took a screenshot of an android VM running on ubuntu and photoshopped it into their device. If they don't have any pictures of the tablet in action, I'd be really dubious...
Finally I ordered this one, so will post some review when it arrives.
So I tested tablet I ordered few weeks ago and realized that this is the same device as Advent Vega. I test quadrant benchmark and got 2200 points without any customization of rom.
Screen is nice and response is fast. I can recommend this one.
ondrapopik said:
So I tested tablet I ordered few weeks ago and realized that this is the same device as Advent Vega. I test quadrant benchmark and got 2200 points without any customization of rom.
Screen is nice and response is fast. I can recommend this one.
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Can you tell us where you got it from please? Thanks.
Itaintrite said:
Can you tell us where you got it from please? Thanks.
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I found it on alibaba.com ( w w w . alibaba. com/product-tp/111757797/Nvidia_10Inch_tablet_PC_with_Capacitive.html ) or you can try web I posted before

13,3 inches for Eclipse and ADT

Hello!
I'm planning on getting a 13,3 inch notebook, for Android development. I'm a beginner, and I'm about to start some internship. I chose this size, because I have a PC at home, and I need a laptop for university and internship, so it has to be mobile. Now, I have some questions:
- what laptop are you guys using for development?
- is 13,3 the right size, or 13xx x 768 is too small for that?
- what cpu would be enough to handle eclipse with adt? I'm low on budget, and I'm wondering if basic Pentium/Celeron dual cores would do the trick, or I need an i3.
If you want to use the Android AVD emulator, you need a very fast one (It is even lagging on i7 processors). You could also connect your phone to the computer. That would be faster but though take some time.
I've compiled jelly bean and built sencha touch apps in eclipse on an HP mini 110. Google for the specs. Not much is required(system specs.). But... do you mind waiting for your rig to to its thing? Can you multitask more than the computer(how many programs running simultaneously)? Get the best you can afford.
nikwen said:
If you want to use the Android AVD emulator, you need a very fast one (It is even lagging on i7 processors). You could also connect your phone to the computer. That would be faster but though take some time.
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Screen size isn't much of an issue. The real issue is resolution. I really struggle to use Eclipse or any other IDE on a X x 768 resolution monitor. It is possible, but you end up having to hide a lot of the features that make the IDE useful so that you can see enough of your source.
I highly recommend at least X x 1080 or X x 1200 resolution for a development laptop. 13.3 inches should be plenty large enough. Personally I don't like anything over 15" due to the weight.
Of course there are people who do all their coding in the CLI, then the resolution doesn't really matter that much. But you asked about Eclipse
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Hello!
I'm planning on getting a 13,3 inch notebook, for Android development. I'm a beginner, and I'm about to start some internship. I chose this size, because I have a PC at home, and I need a laptop for university and internship, so it has to be mobile. Now, I have some questions:
- what laptop are you guys using for development?
- is 13,3 the right size, or 13xx x 768 is too small for that?
- what cpu would be enough to handle eclipse with adt? I'm low on budget, and I'm wondering if basic Pentium/Celeron dual cores would do the trick, or I need an i3.
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I have a asus u36 with a core i3 and the avd with intel x86 emulator ( you can download from sdk manager) it's really fast, my laptop it's a 13.3" 16:9 HD (1366x768) LED Backlight so for me it's the right res with some good performance and 8H battery life (2 graphics cards and 128Gb SSD) and it's cheap i bought mine 6 months ago for 650€ so it's the right choice
Your question, with a pentium/Celeron Dual core avd will take at least 5/7 minutes to boot every time you want to test your app in avd.

Why I Chose The Asus MeMO Pad FHD 10 Over LG's New G Pad 8.3 Tablet

I Welcome Discussion..
Reasons why I felt the Asus MeMO Pad FHD 10 Tablet is a better investment for me vs the LG G Pad 8.3 Tablet..
Short Version..
1) Resolution is 1920 x 1200 on both: 10 inches is better than 8.3 inches
2) Dedicated HDMI Out: Slimport & MHL Technologies need a power source to work without fail.. HDMI Out does not.
3) 32Gb of Internal Storage On The FHD 10 vs 16Gb on the G Pad 8.3: This plus 64 Gb Micro SD Card support.
4) A True Tablet UI: Icon Dock does not get rotated vertically to the right side of screen in Landscape.
5) Price: The MeMO PAD FHD 10 32Gb Version is at least $20.00 cheaper than the 16Gb (only option) G Pad 8.3..
Disagree?
Please Explain why...
Long Version..
1A) Even though the MeMO FHD 10 has a lower Lux rating you would be hard pressed to tell unless you are sitting in the middle of a grass field at high noon and the sun is right over your head.. other than that you Can see the screen outdoors..
2A) I've owned the Samsung Tab 3 8.0 & Note 8.0 along with a Nexus-7 2013.. The Samsung's had Samsung's own MHL adapter that I ordered.. it claimed to be able to charge your device while sending a HDMI signal / Picture out to your Big Screen.. That was not the case. The Tablet's still drained with use.. you needed that AC power just to get the unit to work.. if you tried not using AC and just plugging into your Tablet's USB port, the HDMI Out signal from you device to your T.V. was a no go or spotty if you were lucky. Same case for the Slimport Device I order for the Nexus-7 2013.
True HDMI Out Eliminates all of that.
You can now use the AC power to keep your Tablet charged as normal.. Have a dedicated HDMI Signal sending out information.. And in my case, combining that with a Bluetooth Game Controller I now have a Fully Functional Gaming Console.. just as if it were an Xbox or Playstation but now I can get HD games for $7.00 max instead of $59.99 max... all day play on the Big Screen without having to worry about battery drain.
3A) There is no argument here.. 32Gb without tricks is 32Gb without tricks,, with 26Gb ready for ALL downloaded Apps & Media guaranteed to work if you never install an SD Card.. vs 11.6 Gb's Available on the G Pad 8.3.
4A) It may not bother you in the least.. but I personally cannot stand the way Sub-10 inch Tablets rotate the icon dock to a vertical stance on the right side of the screen in Landscape mode.. It looks hideous to me.. Yes, there are way around it by dis-figuring icons or having none.. but why go through that? True Tablet Mode eliminates this nagging issue for me.
5A) The soon to be released ( As of this writing ) Nexus-10 2013 I am sure will be at least $399.00 for 16Gb & $499.00 for 32Gb's of storage.. with NO SD Card slot as we well know.. Sharper Brighter Screen? Yes.. worth $200.00 more for a 32Gb version to "Me" ? Nope.
The LG G Pad 8.3 with it's Snapdragon 600 heart will ( and already does ) get lots of development.. ROM's a plenty! where my Asus MeMO FHD 10 cannot even get a Thread!! ( Joking.. Not Angry at all )
And you know what? I may be getting a little old but... I can live with that!
The Asus MeMO Pad FHD 10 is one of the most Lightly Skinned UI's out there.. Coupled with Intel's CloverTrail+ Technology, it's efficient and smooth without Lagg.
I thought long and hard about my decision.. even returning the first 16Gb $279.99 FHD 10 I had.. and just stayed "Empty Handed" for a few days to go over the Pro & Cons without bias..
My Conclusion was.. You cannot get more *Bang For The Buck* than the 32Gb Asus MeMO Pad FHD 10 offers.
If you are a Flash-A-Holic ,
Buy a Nexus-7 2013.
Very Nice.. To see everyone in 100% agreement..
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Very Nice.. To see everyone in 100% agreement..
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Like i've said in the other thread... i agree with you.
And have hope that x86 will see some adoption on the soft dev's part since it is a more "powerful" computer architecture (1 single core can do more calculus per second than a single core Cortex A15... and probably even more than the Cortex A57 cores)
Plus the Z2560 SoC its really a great chip... even with demanding games it never runs hot ... and the battery last a lot more time than the ARM based devices.
The next gen SoC's from Intel (Z3xxx) have the power to put ARM SoC's to shame (in terms of compute "power", and probably power consumption) except for the GPU (i really don't understand why they [Intel] are going to use their crappy GPU arch...)... Its going to be very interesting to see if Intel will gain a momentum in the mobile devices...
I just hope they both keep on the market, because the winner is the consumer (and computer science)... Would love to see some Power arch devices as well and some MIPS...
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Like i've said in the other thread... i agree with you.
And have hope that x86 will see some adoption on the soft dev's part since it is a more "powerful" computer architecture
Plus the Z2560 SoC its really a great chip... even with demanding games it never runs hot ... and the battery last a lot more time than the ARM based devices.
The next gen SoC's from Intel (Z3xxx) have the power to put ARM SoC's to shame (in terms of compute "power", Its going to be very interesting to see if Intel will gain a momentum in the mobile devices...
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Hey Exnor.. I just wanted to clarify, This thread was not addressing you personally..
But I agree with all your points. Especially the point of the MeMO FHD 10 NEVER running hot.. no matter what you throw at it... I Love That.
it's just icing on the cake.. And I've read several reviews of the G Pad 8.3.. Let's just say my bubble was busted.. It's a great Tablet but at $350.00+ Tax it's well overpriced in today's market just like the Note 8.0 is at $360.00+ Tax for an 8" Tablet.. I don't care what the modding community does with Root & Roms for those 2 Tablets.. And they bring less to the table than the Less Expensive Asus MeMO Pad FHD 10..
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Hey Exnor.. I just wanted to clarify, This thread was not addressing you personally..
But I agree with all your points. Especially the point of the MeMO FHD 10 NEVER running hot.. no matter what you throw at it... I Love That.
it's just icing on the cake.. And I've read several reviews of the G Pad 8.3.. Let's just say my bubble was busted.. It's a great Tablet but at $350.00+ Tax it's well overpriced in today's market just like the Note 8.0 is at $360.00+ Tax for an 8" Tablet.. I don't care what the modding community does with Root & Roms for those 2 Tablets.. And they bring less to the table than the Less Expensive Asus MeMO Pad FHD 10..
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Lol i know it was not address to me : ).
So u dint add the 32GB version? This tablet is a keeper: D
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Lol i know it was not address to me : ).
So u dint add the 32GB version? This tablet is a keeper: D
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Yes I did.. When I returned the 16 Gb I decided to step up to a 32 Gb this time around..
Have you tried a 64 Gb card? I have read conflicting reports that it support it... Either way I am cool having over 50 Gb's Minimum of storage onboard is just fine with me... but if it ends up being 26 Gb's available (Internal) + 60 Gb's (SD Card) available.. I won't argue with having over 80Gb's of storage onboard as well.. :good: and you are correct..
This Tablet is definitely a Keeper.. It just brings too much to the table and has an extremely light UI, Tremendous Batterylife, HD, HDMI, O.T.G... the list goes on and on...
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Yes I did.. When I returned the 16 Gb I decided to step up to a 32 Gb this time around..
Have you tried a 64 Gb card? I have read conflicting reports that it support it... Either way I am cool having over 50 Gb's Minimum of storage onboard is just fine with me... but if it ends up being 26 Gb's available (Internal) + 60 Gb's (SD Card) available.. I won't argue with having over 80Gb's of storage onboard as well.. :good: and you are correct..
This Tablet is definitely a Keeper.. It just brings too much to the table and has an extremely light UI, Tremendous Batterylife, HD, HDMI, O.T.G... the list goes on and on...
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Actually i did not tried any sdcard yet .
The internal flash is more than enough for me right now, because i only use it for OS and Apps... I stream all videos and audio from my NAS.
I would give it a try, but i don't have a 64GiB sdcard
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Actually i did not tried any sdcard yet .
The internal flash is more than enough for me right now, because i only use it for OS and Apps... I stream all videos and audio from my NAS.
I would give it a try, but i don't have a 64GiB sdcard
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Thanks for the response Exnor.. I know.. we have a Ton of Memory available I basically have 32 Gb card I've dragged from device to device that is the culmination of several years of stuff.. 1/2 a dozen Cutting Edge 3D Games 1/2 dozen Movies 90 average apps and I still have over 13 Gb's available internally and 16 Gb's of old stuff on my SD Card... So I'm not hurting for space either but I'm just curious if anyone has confirmed it working or not.. I may buy one if I spot a fair deal and give it a shot myself.. with so many new games in the works and everything now being in High Definition, It will not hurt in the long run to have a much space available as possible.. even though I also have 50 gigs of it free for the next 2 years I just cannot get into "The Cloud" for storage at all... I want my material kept locally..
RaiderWill said:
Thanks for the response Exnor.. I know.. we have a Ton of Memory available I basically have 32 Gb card I've dragged from device to device that is the culmination of several years of stuff.. 1/2 a dozen Cutting Edge 3D Games 1/2 dozen Movies 90 average apps and I still have over 13 Gb's available internally and 16 Gb's of old stuff on my SD Card... So I'm not hurting for space either but I'm just curious if anyone has confirmed it working or not.. I may buy one if I spot a fair deal and give it a shot myself.. with so many new games in the works and everything now being in High Definition, It will not hurt in the long run to have a much space available as possible.. even though I also have 50 gigs of it free for the next 2 years I just cannot get into "The Cloud" for storage at all... I want my material kept locally..
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Word of caution mate, dont buy cheap SDcards... they usually are below standard and have very poor compatibility and data rates. Best OEM so far i've experienced are Sandisk, Transcend and Samsung.
I don't use the "cloud" either. Its stupid to use a service that you need constant ISP service and a fair bandwidth... People will realize this in time (i'm talking of course of mass market products, not professional ones).
I use the Goggle "cloud" just to backup text files(Docs, PDFS etc...)... for that is very very usefull, BUT i have always a redundant copy on several computers or on my Backup HDD's (not networked... never put sensitive stuff on a network).
Changing subject, this week Intel announced that they will start to manufacture ARM based SoC's for other companies (since they have the best semiconductor facilities in the world along side with Samsung and Texas (?)).
No word if Intel will return to produce their own ARM based SoC.. (like in 2000-2003) but its unlikely since they are really pushing the Atom Z3xxx series SoC out there to tablets and low end laptops.
The new Asus phone pad already uses a Z3xxx (4 x86 cores... but a Intel GPU arch :/)... would like to see how they perform.
Exnor said:
Word of caution mate, dont buy cheap SDcards... they usually are below standard and have very poor compatibility and data rates. Best OEM so far i've experienced are Sandisk, Transcend and Samsung.
I don't use the "cloud" either. Its stupid to use a service that you need constant ISP service and a fair bandwidth.
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Not to worry Exnor.. Nothing but Sandisk for years now..
Give Intel until 2020.. they will be a Major Player and possibly the *Leader* in this industry as what is known as the " Laptop / Computers" of 2013 become the Dinosaurs of 2020.. Powerful Tablets will replace these bulky concepts in the next 6 years..
RaiderWill said:
Not to worry Exnor.. Nothing but Sandisk for years now..
Give Intel until 2020.. they will be a Major Player and possibly the *Leader* in this industry as what is known as the " Laptop / Computers" of 2013 become the Dinosaurs of 2020.. Powerful Tablets will replace these bulky concepts in the next 6 years..
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I agree... Intel have made huge progress in power consumption savings. And ARM does not have a processor arch that can rival head-to-head with currently available x86 arch...
But i hope they both stay in the market, because competition is what makes new tech to be produced and better prices for the consumer
Exnor said:
I agree... Intel have made huge progress in power consumption savings. And ARM does not have a processor arch that can rival head-to-head with currently available x86 arch...
But i hope they both stay in the market, because competition is what makes new tech to be produced and better prices for the consumer
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Exnor.. I am quite sure neither side is ready to relent this growing market.. but Intel has to take it.. Arm most certainly will not give it away..
Hi!
Sorry I'm a little bit off topic, but I am having a problem which is simmilar to yours RaiderWill. I am trying to decide which tablet to buy and after reading your post and comparing it to my opinions and prices in my country (Poland), I am sure that Asus FHD is the best tablet for me. The only thing that keeps me from buying it is the Note 10.1. It is the same size as the Asus, has lower resolution screen (but the image is good overall), but it has the SPen and in Poland it costs as much as the Asus.
Have you considered buying /or have you had/ this tablet? What do you think about it, is it worth considering?
Thanks
I just received mine the other day, and I don't know why people are trashing the tablet. So far every app I've tried has worked outstanding and out performs my other android tablets.
Now if more people would get one so xda would create a forum for it.
I've had both. I went with the Google play edition LG pad. I felt that the Asus tablet felt sluggish at times with just the dual core Intel chip. And I think the screen on the LG looked much better. But as far as price goes, yes its overpriced. Should be around $299
What is the hold up on development for this tablet do you think?
Turbojugend said:
What is the hold up on development for this tablet do you think?
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I read a post some guys in Germany were able to root and install 4.6.2 somehow.
Misfit7 said:
I read a post some guys in Germany were able to root and install 4.6.2 somehow.
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I have the latest software 4.7.3 rooted no problem, but I meant more or any custom roms, this device has been out for a while I think hasn't it? I am wondering since it is an Intel chipset that development won't happen at all on it.
Turbojugend said:
I have the latest software 4.7.3 rooted no problem, but I meant more or any custom roms, this device has been out for a while I think hasn't it? I am wondering since it is an Intel chipset that development won't happen at all on it.
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Your are correct it has been out for a couple of months. I just got mine last week and been searching like a maniac for roms. I'm thinking since it's still not as popular and the nexus it's going to take some time before we see anu development.
the Asus MeMO Pad FHD 10 is boring
The Asus MeMO Pad FHD 10 costs the same as the LG pad but it's a 10in tablet. That alone can sway you to it. However, when you look at the Asus MeMO Pad FHD 10, it doesn't blow you away. Boring

I want a tablet

HI all, how's everyone? not been back for some time,
I need some help from you guys if possible.
I want a tablet, my partner has an ipad mini, I like it, long battery life, clear and cool to the touch, (ie don't get too warm on long usage)
Can anyone recommend me something?
I have made my own (very brief short list)
Lenovo Yoga
Xiaomi Mipad,
Pipo P8
Fire 7.7
My criteria is this,
7.9-8.9 inch screen
4:3 format.
stable Os,
ideally full android, so not sure if the fire can be rooted.
quad core, and can hold its own when running any intense apps.
won't get too hot when on long usage.
long battery life,
if possible 2Gb ram,
if no MMC expansion then need at least 32Gb
no more than £200, and as per my list, will look into oversea models
I do like the nexus 9, but out of my budget any other suggestions.
will-i-am1977 said:
HI all, how's everyone? not been back for some time,
I need some help from you guys if possible.
I want a tablet, my partner has an ipad mini, I like it, long battery life, clear and cool to the touch, (ie don't get too warm on long usage)
Can anyone recommend me something?
I have made my own (very brief short list)
Lenovo Yoga
Xiaomi Mipad,
Pipo P8
Fire 7.7
My criteria is this,
7.9-8.9 inch screen
4:3 format.
stable Os,
ideally full android, so not sure if the fire can be rooted.
quad core, and can hold its own when running any intense apps.
won't get too hot when on long usage.
long battery life,
if possible 2Gb ram,
if no MMC expansion then need at least 32Gb
no more than £200, and as per my list, will look into oversea models
I do like the nexus 9, but out of my budget any other suggestions.
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Mipad best bang for buck, infact, the price and the specs you get are bloody brilliant! Really really great value, I don't know how Xiaomi get away with it
Its about £230 (some places £180 but + import tax could be more, I say use EBay because you have buyer protection etc) I'm looking into buying the Mipad myself, (I currently have an LG G Pad, heavily mod'd)
The only downside (which is to be expected) is the OS on the Mipad MIUI (on Xiaomi phones Mi2 Mi3 Mi4 its great, but on thus Mipad its half finished, buggy etc.)
But hey I enjoy a challenge
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Lenovo Yoga 8 is very good. Quad-Core, Android 4.2 Operating System, Battery Life – Up to 18 Hours, but if you want to play games with a higher experience, I would recommend you another game tablet (JXD S7800B), 7.0 inches, quad core.
will-i-am1977 said:
HI all, how's everyone? not been back for some time,
I need some help from you guys if possible.
I want a tablet, my partner has an ipad mini, I like it, long battery life, clear and cool to the touch, (ie don't get too warm on long usage)
Can anyone recommend me something?
I have made my own (very brief short list)
Lenovo Yoga
Xiaomi Mipad,
Pipo P8
Fire 7.7
My criteria is this,
7.9-8.9 inch screen
4:3 format.
stable Os,
ideally full android, so not sure if the fire can be rooted.
quad core, and can hold its own when running any intense apps.
won't get too hot when on long usage.
long battery life,
if possible 2Gb ram,
if no MMC expansion then need at least 32Gb
no more than £200, and as per my list, will look into oversea models
I do like the nexus 9, but out of my budget any other suggestions.
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I actually would recommend you the iPad Mini 3, because it's almost matching all your requirements except that it is iOS.
Apple will really ensure that you're requirements will be finished.!
will-i-am1977 said:
HI all, how's everyone? not been back for some time,
I need some help from you guys if possible.
I want a tablet, my partner has an ipad mini, I like it, long battery life, clear and cool to the touch, (ie don't get too warm on long usage)
Can anyone recommend me something?
I have made my own (very brief short list)
Lenovo Yoga
Xiaomi Mipad,
Pipo P8
Fire 7.7
My criteria is this,
7.9-8.9 inch screen
4:3 format.
stable Os,
ideally full android, so not sure if the fire can be rooted.
quad core, and can hold its own when running any intense apps.
won't get too hot when on long usage.
long battery life,
if possible 2Gb ram,
if no MMC expansion then need at least 32Gb
no more than £200, and as per my list, will look into oversea models
I do like the nexus 9, but out of my budget any other suggestions.
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Lenovo Yoga - Good price and quality
not buy Xiaomi Mipad, because after using it a period , you'll find it's slack no longer
FloydPual said:
not buy Xiaomi Mipad, because after using it a period , you'll find it's slack no longer
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What do you mean?
LiamAtkins90 said:
What do you mean?
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Why not iPad Mini 3 it's damn good
Bink Feed said:
Why not iPad Mini 3 it's damn good
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I just don't like IOS bro, Evan if IOS was light years ahead of Android in terms of raw power, I would never go the apple side lol
LiamAtkins90 said:
I just don't like IOS bro, Evan if IOS was light years ahead of Android in terms of raw power, I would never go the apple side lol
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But it's about him!
Did you choose your tablet ?
I am interested because I also want an 8" tablet to use mainly as an ebook reader ...
Noticed that dealsprime has a "youtube promo" ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfZ28bH8bXE : free pouch) on the pipo p8 and that there is apparently good rom support for it on http://www.freaktab.com/forumdisplay.php?166-Current-Pipo-ROMs ...
pierro78 said:
Did you choose your tablet ?
I am interested because I also want an 8" tablet to use mainly as an ebook reader ...
Noticed that dealsprime has a "youtube promo" ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfZ28bH8bXE : free pouch) on the pipo p8 and that there is apparently good rom support for it on http://www.freaktab.com/forumdisplay.php?166-Current-Pipo-ROMs ...
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For an EBook type of device I would suggest the Tesco Hudl 2
I know what your thinking.... No way dude!!
But I was surprised at how good this piece of kit is for like £120.
Quad core, Intel, full HD, the casing around the tablet isn't pretty but its great specs for the price.
Sent from N5
LiamAtkins90 said:
For an EBook type of device I would suggest the Tesco Hudl 2
I know what your thinking.... No way dude!!
But I was surprised at how good this piece of kit is for like £120.
Quad core, Intel, full HD, the casing around the tablet isn't pretty but its great specs for the price.
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I've just ordered the lenovo tab s8-50 http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/lenovo-s8-s8-50-tablet-support-t2924127 which specs look very similar (except lighter) ... 161E today at rueducommerce which is around 128GBP ...
springning said:
Lenovo Yoga 8 is very good. Quad-Core, Android 4.2 Operating System, Battery Life – Up to 18 Hours, but if you want to play games with a higher experience, I would recommend you another game tablet (JXD S7800B), 7.0 inches, quad core.
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Not all quad core is good.this machine uses MTK8382 which is a very slow quad core machine.
And It's pretty Energy Hungry,It only could go on up to 10-12Hr.
Also RK3188?No please.A Allwinner A31 could win the RK3188...
2,I would not like to suggest the lenovo one is the warranty service.If your machine have something and you take it to the service centre,the day it fixed you will get "another machine".
^What i mean,A more worse machine.
Asus HD8 is a good choice for you:
- Cheap
- Long batery

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